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Nomination of Segregation academies for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Segregation academies is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Segregation academies until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Verdad (talkcontribs) 18:03, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving[edit]

Happy WHAT? It sure ain't happy for me!

Happy Thanksgiving Tony the Marine (talk), 25 November 2010

Question. Why did you delete Cutcaster's entry but you let entries like this go through.

The article did not state why the subject was notable. It was also blatant advertising. I also deleted the Pixmac article for the same reason.--SouthernNights (talk) 19:51, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I don't think, that Pixmac article was advertising... If you think so, why don't you delete the same content at,,, etc. Tell me please, what part of Pixmac article was about advertising and I will rewrite it. Thanks--Xvlcm12 17:31, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Opinion vs. Fact: Re: Kramer

How does one deal with opinion vs. fact when both are in print? One example is the "riot" where investigative reporter Cohen at notes that there is no record of any such riot. The aforementioned article quotes witnesses of an assault. Is is incorrect to provide balance according to TOS? Please note that a 3rd party had previously evaluated the content and removed inappropriate content from OrangeMike, which he has now replaced. OrangeMike has been a past critic of both Dragon Con and Kramer prior to 2000, and his commentary reflects this bias. I have been to Dragon Con, have followed this case, but consider myself neither a close friend nor associate. Aeneas (talk) 23:14, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I've responded at Talk:Edward_E._Kramer#Removing_sourced_information.--SouthernNights (talk) 22:34, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Uncle Tom's Cabin[edit]

Hello. As you are the primary editor of the article, please see its talk page, as there are several issues regarding this article. TGilmour (talk) 19:34, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

I believe I've addressed these issues. Please see my comment on the article's talk page.--SouthernNights (talk) 01:49, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
See it again, please. TGilmour (talk) 06:23, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Dan Schneider (writer)/Archive 1[edit]

FYI... I've created the archive for Talk:Dan Schneider, which it seems you forgot to create in 2010.[1] Viriditas (talk) 12:28, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

MSU Interview[edit]

Dear SouthernNights,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the communityHERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:

  • Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
  • Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
  • All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
  • All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
  • The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your nameHERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.


Jonathan Obar --Jaobar ([[User talk:Jaobar|talk — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:32, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

2006 GFDL issues[edit]

Dear SouthernNights,

Questions are being arising here on the french Wikipedia regarding copyrighted text which is indicated alloted under GFDL. A check on Wikipedia:Successful requests for permission does not give a satisfying return. The object of our inquiry is Hans Gál ; you ackowledged it seems the author's authorization regarding his site at the time, could you please give us confirmation ? Thanks in advance, --Askedonty (talk) 07:20, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

I've responded to this on your talk page.--SouthernNights (talk) 11:54, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Reversions on Montgomery Academy Article[edit]

Hi SouthernNights. New discussion on Montgomery Academy's talk page. Need your input. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Verdad (talkcontribs) 17:19, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

More discussion on the Montgomery Academy talk page. Need some more information. ThanksVerdad (talk) 03:17, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

More discussion available. Appreciate your feedback. Verdad (talk) 18:14, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

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Pink Friday: The Pinkprint[edit]

Hello my friend. I see you've protected it. It was just created and I think the newcomer is working on it. I'm not sure it needs protection. Cheers, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:07, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Seems like there was a good mix of vandalism and edits going on by anonymous editors, making it difficult to see who was doing legit edits and who was doing bad. I only semi-protected, but if you want I'll lift it.--SouthernNights (talk) 00:09, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at Anna Frodesiak's talk page. 00:12, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at Anna Frodesiak's talk page. 22:14, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Re: Happy New Year[edit]

  • Man, oh man, am I glad to hear from you. You have always been one of my best friends here and I'm glad that you are still around. Not too many good-guys still left here. I want to wish you a Happy New Year. Hey, when you have the time, check out this guy called Tony over here:[2]. Tony the Marine (talk) 17:39, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Reply Re. Pugmire[edit]

In case you did not see it, this is to let you know that I have replied to your comments at Dennis Bratland's talk page.Pernoctus (talk) 10:15, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Freedom of Choice AfD[edit]

You said "The result was KEEP in light of recent improvements to the article". That is absolutely wrong, you can't delete an article based on its current state. "Recent improvements" should have no weight on your keep/delete decision. --Hugo Spinelli (talk) 22:54, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

In general you're correct--a subject's notability exists apart from the current state of the article. However, a poorly sourced article can mislead people into believing the subject is not notable. After the article was improved, the notability was more obvious to the AfD participants and caused the discussion to shift firmly to keep. That's what I was trying to indicate with that comment.--SouthernNights (talk) 23:56, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

First result was delete.[edit]

  • Hi SouthernNights, you have closed the discussion nomination for deletion of Nandini Sahu, but at the talk page, first nomination for deletion's result was "delete" instead of "keep". If I am right please correct that. Thanks.Justice007 (talk) 13:18, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Oops. My bad. I'll correct that in a moment.--SouthernNights (talk) 13:35, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
No problem and thanks.Justice007 (talk) 13:40, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Re-submitting previously deleted post about company[edit]

Hello SoutherNights!

About a year ago I spent some time trying to write an article about a local start-up company in my area that has helped my business immensely. At the time the company was deemed not to be relevant and the article was deleted - I was a little sad as I spent some time learning how to use Wikipedia for this express purpose. All in all it was a good experience but I am ready to try again. When I visited the deleted page I was told to contact the deleting editor before proceeding (I missed this step yesterday while I was working on it). Since last year the company has grown significantly having articles written about it by over a dozen recognizable media sources and they won a major industry award in British Columbia. I have simplified the article and made references where appropriate. Is there anything else I need to do before re-submitting? And is there anything else I can do to improve the chances of success? This has become a bit of a personal quest for me now and I would love to just put it to bed.

Thanks for taking the time.

Best regards,

Tekgrunt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tekgrunt (talkcontribs) 23:08, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

File tagged for deletion[edit]

FYI, a media file which SouthernNights appears to have uploaded, has been tagged for potential deletion here. I was made aware of this by this notice here. Please be aware of this.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 19:46, 17 March 2013 (UTC)


I'm not sure how much you've read about this epic-wiki-debate, but I wanted to ask you a few questions re: your comment on the American novelists page.

  1. Do you realize that, up till now, Category:American novelists has *never* contained all novelists? Many were sub-catted into genre-specific categories (at last count there were around 6800 novelists, 3000 of which were never in the head cat) - so going by wiki-categorization-votes (e.g. the accumulated votes of thousands of edits), this tree has always diffused. That to me is a good indication that consensus is not that the parent should contain all of the children.
  2. Even today, you can get a list of *all* novelists by simply clicking the link at the top of the page, which brings you to an external tool which enumerates the whole tree - no matter what subcats they are in. So if the user wants a full list, we can give it to them today, no matter if we diffuse or not.
  3. By saying all novelists should be in the parent cat, do you realize you are basically saying that (a) none of the extant sub-cats can diffuse any more, and (b) that no diffusing sub-cats could ever be created in the future (for example, novelists by state)? This means the by-century cats (e.g. Category:20th-century American novelists, and the by-genre cats (eg Category:American romantic fiction novelists) cannot diffuse.
I can see an argument for no longer diffusing the genre cats (since we don't want to pigeonhole novelists), but I don't see why you wouldn't diffuse on century. We diffuse on century in thousands of other locations in the tree -its a quite standard way to split up a large tree. Why should American novelists be a special exception?

Thanks, I'm asking you here as I've already weighed in enough on the other page... cheers, --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 01:05, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm aware of all these points. But this isn't an either/or situation. If editors want to put an author in American novelists, let them. If they want to also put that author in a subcategory, let them also do that. There's nothing lost by doing this. As for diffusing by century cats, that can also be done, but it shouldn't be done at the expense of the American novelists category. Remember that categories are a tool to aid in finding subjects and articles. I feel that keeping authors out of this category will simply make it harder for people to find what they're looking for.--SouthernNights (talk) 01:14, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
I see your point - but what diffusion means is removal from the parents - so what I think you're saying is, the by-century cats should *not* diffuse - i.e. they should be non-diffusing. I'm just pointing out that this is contrary to the behavior of the rest of the ~20,000 categories that have the word "20th-century" in the title, and I've yet to see arguments for why this should be the case for this one tree. Ironically, keeping everything in the parent also makes it *harder* to put novelists in more specific cats - when the cat is empty, like Category:American politicians, it's easy to find someone who isn't properly categorized. If everyone is in the parent, you'll never find these. Just a few thoughts for your consideration...--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 01:37, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Author Robert Clark Young sockpuppeting[edit]

I wasn't around in March 2007 when you were dealing with a bunch of sockpuppets and off-wiki harassment of Alabamaboy. It looks like all the discussions about that case have been revdel'ed, for privacy reasons. The subject has come up again at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Qworty. Can I ask you to offer your thoughts on that case, to share some of your impressions about the sockpuppeting editor who recently revealed himself as Robert Clark Young on the Qworty user page? I don't want to see a failure in institutional memory just because the Alabamaboy case is no longer visible. Binksternet (talk) 00:49, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Brad Vice[edit]

Would you consider unprotecting this page so that some of the damage can be undone? It's been 6 months, which seems long enough to me.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 08:16, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Done.--SouthernNights (talk) 11:08, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Thank you kindly!— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 15:37, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Sharon process[edit]

I was considering writing an entry for the SHARON process to explain why a system may be designed so as to yield nitrites from ammonia, but see that a page with this title was previously deleted on the grounds of copyright infringement. Could you explain what lead you to delete rather than edit the page, given that information about the process is freely available elsewhere?

Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aleckinghorn (talkcontribs) 10:45, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm writing an academic article on people-participation in the 'production' of Shakespeare studies. I noticed that you had recently provided some edits for the Wiki Shakespeare page, and wondered if I might ask you some questions about that? This project is at a very early stage so I've not yet refined or worked out a fixed methodology. So the questions are also not yet fully formed. (And I am aware that you also contribute to many other pages.) 1. What motivates you specifically to contribute specifically to the Shakespeare page? 2. Do you consider that your skills in this regard are general, technical, or specialist? 3. Have you contributed to other Shakespeare-related pages? 3. What's you opinion on how the Shakespeare page has evolved over time? 4. What are the strengths and weaknesses of the Shakespeare page in terms of its current form and content? 5. Who would you say are the target readers for this page? 6. What have been the advantages and/or the frustrations of working on the Shakespeare page? 7. What are your reflections on the process of wiki-engagement in terms of dialogue, connection, community and collaboration? 8. In your view, are there any other questions that ought to be considered? Many thanks for taking the time to read this! TheoryofSexuality (talk) 18:30, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Just to let you know -- Missing Wikipedians[edit]

You have been mentioned at Wikipedia:Missing Wikipedians. XOttawahitech (talk) 14:43, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

I removed myself from that list. I have a readily evident pattern of taking long breaks from editing. --SouthernNights (talk) 10:36, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Joe E. Ross[edit]

I have commented at the discussion you started at Talk:Joe E. Ross. While I appreciate you starting a discussion, I'm unclear as to why you're continuing to revert while discussion is underway. You're an admin; I have little doubt that you'll win in the end. In the meantime, you should at least pretend to follow WP:BRD (you made a bold edit; I reverted to the long-standing version; now we [and hopefully others] discuss it). Thanks. Joefromrandb (talk) 05:51, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Aristidh Kola[edit]

Thanks for the tip[[3]] . By the way is it possible to have the text of the old article [[4]] and the name of its creator because it appears that this is related with a sockpuppet case of user:Sulmues. Alexikoua (talk) 11:17, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately, permission to view the deleted pages and edits is limited to admins, checkusers and a few others groups. Apologies, but under Wikipedia guidelines I can't reveal this info. If you suspect a sockpuppet case you can report it. All needed info is at Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry.--SouthernNights (talk) 13:41, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
I wonder if its possible to know who was the creator of the article. It appears it was one of the two: Sulmues or Lceliku, both of them involved in diferrent sp cases.Alexikoua (talk) 14:00, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Neither of those editors created the article, but the editor who did create it was eventually blocked for using sockpuppets. Since the editor was blocked I'd say I can reveal the editor's username: User:Guildenrich. However, another editor also edited that now-deleted article, and this editor appears to have a clean record at Wikipedia.
In addition, do understand the current article is vastly expanded and different from the version which was deleted several years ago. While I don't know the backstory on all this, when I read the current article and examined its possible notability, it wasn't a candidate for speedy delete. However, that doesn't mean you can't bring it up for discussion on Articles for Deletion. Best, --SouthernNights (talk) 14:19, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

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Your email[edit]

For reasons I won't spend time explaining, I have only just found your email, and I'm afraid I don't have time to deal with it now. I will try to get onto it later today, but I may not be able to until tomorrow. If that is not good enough, then perhaps you can either deal with it yourself or ask someone else to help. Sorry that I can't be more helpful right now. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:04, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

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Request for comment[edit]

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

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