User talk:Speahlman

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Speahlman, good luck, and have fun. ----Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:58, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

January 2013[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Natural law, but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Saddhiyama (talk) 15:53, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Christianity and Western culture[edit]

While it is positive to see such an enthusiasm for editing, I am afraid your edits are becoming quite problematic as it is increasingly clear that your edits have an agenda of changing our historical articles into correlating your specific intepretation of the role of Christianity in the development of the modern Western world.

While it is inarguable that Christianity has contributed immensely to the last centuries of Western history it is very much the discussion of scholars exactly how much and precisely in which ways. This is not reflected in your edits at all, which, by using mostly older German Christian apologetic sources, unequivocally states that Christianity, Protestantism in particular, was the main, in fact only, reason for the development of a liberal democratic Western society. For example "Second, democracy, separation of powers, social contract theory, freedom of the press, separation of church and state, freedom of religion – these achievements of the Reformation and early Protestantism were elaborated on, reinforced and made popular by Enlightenment philosophers.". A very strong statement and one that is made without any citations whatsoever, and remember that Exceptional claims require exceptional sources.

Your edits also consists of a lot of WP:Synthesis and WP:Original research since you yourself as editor makes interpretations and comparisons based on seperate claims of different sources, that is using various articles treating different subjects which you then synthesise into your own conclusion, your five points for example in the five paragraphs in the edit shown in the diff above, which is not sourced to anything but is entirely your own conclusion.

The nature of your edits seems to me more suitable for other publications that allows for original research and proposals of specific ideological content, perhaps theological or Christian apologetic periodicals, than on an internet encyclopedia which is supposed to be neutral and based on reliable secondary sources. --Saddhiyama (talk) 14:35, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Saddhiyama, "Christianity has contributed immensely to the last centuries of Western history." I agree. But what were the relevant details? What exactly were these "immense contributions"? Were democracy and freedom of religion among them? As a user of the Wikipedia article about the Enlightenment I have a right to expect answers to these questions. I get plenty of information about "Grub Street" and coffee houses, for example. Was that really so important? But I don't get answers to my questions about the rise of the Enlightenment. So I ask you. Was Plymouth Colony a self-governing democratic community from 1620 to 1691? If so, why did the settlers decide on that particular form of governance? What about Massachusetts Bay Colony? Did Roger Williams, Thomas Hooker, and William Penn combine democracy and freedom of religion in Rhode Island, Connecticut, and Pennsylvania, respectively? If so, why? Why did the Declaration of Independence not simply state: "We hold these truths to be self-evident that all Men are equal, that they have certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness"? Why did the signers of the Declaration instead refer to creation twice, to "the Laws of Nature and Nature's God", appeal to "the Supreme Judge of the world", and express their "reliance on the protection of divine Providence"? What does that tell about the cultural and religious background of the American generation that made the Revolution? Were the English and the American democracies created by Buddhists, Muslims, Eastern Orthodox Christians, Catholics, agonostics, or atheists? I'm looking forward to you replies. Speahlman — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:38, 24 July 2013 (UTC)