User talk:Srtª PiriLimPomPom

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Hello. Please use sources that directly support the material presented in an article and are appropriate to the claims made and note that the terminological conventions that are employed in a Wikipedia article should generally be the ones most common in the English language, as you would find them in reliable sources. [1] Please refrain from using the IPA notation in a non-standard way (capital letters and tildes do not constitute standard usage). [2]Omnipaedista (talk) 13:08, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

This is because 1. Brazilian Portuguese's phoneme /S/ (I can prove our linguistic academy uses this notation with sources, but it had nothing to do with the content of the article in question) cannot be properly described as either /s/ or /ʃ/ (it can also be [z], [ɕ], [ʑ], [ʒ], [h], [ɦ] and phonemic zero) 2. pronunciation in Brazil would need to be verbose for me to indicate just a sole (but important) vowel reduction dialectal variation, and I felt such formality as unnecessary. Ugh, really, you undid my edits to turn them again to incorrect/incomplete information, instead of telling yourself whatever allophone you felt more prevalent, standard or important (what I can't do myself). Srtª PiriLimPomPom (talk) 23:38, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
My objection is that you used a phonemic convention in a phonetic transcription. --Omnipaedista (talk) 15:38, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Re. 'European?' in labiodental approximant[edit]

I thought it likely that the University of Porto's corpus might not carry BP samples. The labiodental approximant might very well occur in BP, but we shouldn't claim it does (be it implicitly) unless we can verify it. — Lfdder (talk) 03:10, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

I take it that my pronunciation of the example I put there in a vocaroo file wouldn't count (yes, my v feels "aspirated" rather than voiced-f in malva and louvo). They didn't have BP samples. Sucks, the example [ɐtiʋiˈðad̥ʃ] would very well be a possible carioca pronunciation (it is a perfectly normal stress-timed male one) if not for the absence of palatalization in the "ti" (Rio de Janeiro is the only state where ~100% of people affricate-palatalize ti and di), so we can't even have the illusion that it might be from an immigrant. Srtª PiriLimPomPom (talk) 03:16, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Interesting. I do actually live with a Carioca, so I might just ask him to say it for me....for science. — Lfdder (talk) 03:42, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
"The world is like an egg"... To me the most interesting part of that source was the reported addition of [ə̯] to monophthongs, especially after /e/ and /o/. Other Brazilians stereotype us as doing it in many places (hell, a sound file I gave people was said to contain it terribly clearly, but I couldn't hear - I was not presented to IPA yet at the time, though, they said it was "oar" and "éar"), but I only have a very slight perception of it as such (I distinguish mas from mais phonetically, but I don't have a short monophthong in the first one either). Now that it seems to be a slight areal feature of northern Portugal I'm very confident that it indeed exists and we inherited it from them. This endless linguistic Portuguese heritage is fun, I never stop learning things. :) Srtª PiriLimPomPom (talk) 03:52, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Your userpage: User:Srtª PiriLimPomPom[edit]

Hello there. I just wanted to send you a friendly note about your User page. It is intended for basic information about yourself or your Wikimedia-related activities. A lot of leeway is allowed in personalizing your user page, but it seems a lot like a fake article or essay about your point of view. I'm wondering if you could move it to a subpage? Please don't be offended. Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:16, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

I'm really sorry! I was supposed to do something like this, but was in a bit of a rush so postponed it, and then completely forgot about its existence. Srtª PiriLimPomPom (talk) 11:56, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
Not at all. Don't be one bit sorry. :) I'm sorry to be a bother. If you like, you can paste the following to your userpage. They are nice sandboxes -- a good place to hammer out things that will eventually become part of the encyclopedia.
==My sandboxes==
*[[User:Srtª PiriLimPomPom/Sandbox1|Sandbox1]]
*[[User:Srtª PiriLimPomPom/Sandbox2|Sandbox2]]
*[[User:Srtª PiriLimPomPom/Sandbox3|Sandbox3]]
If there is anything you ever need or have any questions, please ask. Thank you, and happy editing. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:19, 23 March 2014 (UTC)


I left a reply at my userpage. AbelM7 (talk) 10:40, 24 March 2014 (UTC)


I reverted your edit not because I don't agree. Straight men do sometimes enjoy Yaoi but putting a citation tag where you did suggest gay men don't. Why not add straight men to the sentence rather than challenging that gay men also enjoy it.-Rainbowofpeace (talk) 06:30, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate your point, also I already thought that too. I'm just not really sure if the English phrase I used is grammatically okay. Srtª PiriLimPomPom (talk) 06:32, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

April 2014[edit]

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May 2014[edit]

Please stop your disruptive editing. Your edits have been reverted or removed.

Do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively may result in your being blocked from editing. JustBerry (talk) 00:28, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

@JustBerry: What are you even talking about? Srtª PiriLimPomPom (talk) 07:28, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
@Srtª PiriLimPomPom: Without a doubt, you had engaged in an edit war. I was just warning you to stop to save you from trouble. --JustBerry (talk) 16:00, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
@JustBerry: I'm pretty confident it's not a edit war if you revert consensus for lack of reliable sources, and tries to resolve it in the talk page. Srtª PiriLimPomPom (talk) 22:31, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Brazilian Portuguese[edit]

Hello, I noticed that you added information about Brazilian Portuguese speakers at Non-native pronunciations of English. Most of it was good, but there was one source that I saw didn't actually back up the claim (it was talking about Portuguese pronunciation, not how Portuguese speakers pronounce English). I can understand the logic of using this as a source, because second-language transfer leads to a lot of the characteristics of ESL speech. However, it would be original research to make this sort of inference.

I bring this up because I was wondering if another claim you added about vowels being pronounced with breathy voice was using this same logic. I'm unable to access the book cited, an introductory textbook called "Iniciação à Fonética e à Fonologia." If you still have access to this work, do you think you could you tell me if the source in question is talking about Portuguese or if it's talking about ESL speakers? — Ƶ§œš¹ [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 21:50, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

@Aeusoes1: Yes, it's about Portuguese specifically, given how I found the sources on ESL speakers somewhat limited. No issue about removing the unsourced bits. :) Srtª PiriLimPomPom (talk) 06:43, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

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