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Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure[edit]

Hi Technical 13. In reply to this edit summary, yes, that was an edit conflict. Sorry for accidentally removing your comment. Thank you for your carefully explained WP:ANRFC closes! Cunard (talk) 02:18, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

  • Cunard, no problem, as many times as I've accidentally removed comments from others due to (edit conflict) notification failures (or even times when it works right but my edit is so comprehensive it is easier to just fix the other user's comment after the fact (which never happens of course except in theory)). I expect that I'll be closing a few more in the next few days as well. I actually quite enjoy reading all of the arguments back and forth and determining consensus, when consensus exists. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 02:31, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
  • That is great to hear! ANRFC could use many more thoughtful closers who are willing to explain their closes in detail. I've heard in the past that closing discussions was a thankless task (link), but I am glad to hear that you, like I JethroBT (talk · contribs) here, find it fun and rewarding. On the few occasions that I've closed discussions (one example), I've enjoyed doing them too. It is rewarding to help resolve disputes. Cunard (talk) 02:42, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
    • C, is there a userscript available to make the technical component of closing these discussions easier? I know there are scripts for XfD discussions, and I'm wondering if you know if there is one available for this. Thanks. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 14:00, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
      • I don't know of a userscript for closing these RfC discussion, sorry! Cunard (talk) 00:09, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Re: Friendly request[edit]

I will consider it as soon as possible. Best regards.--MaCroatian squares Ljubicic.pngGa 20:23, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Requests from Dirtlawyer1[edit]

Dirtlawyer1, I am actually fairly busy until after Christmas. I'd be more than happy to help you out with some more stuff then. :) BTW, I decided to start a new section down here as the one up top was getting kind of long. Happy editing until then! — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 15:55, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Script on Commons[edit]

You created "mark for uncategorized" script on Commons earlier this year, but mediawiki continously said your script line 19 or so had problem, so I had to remove it from common.js. Can you fix it?  Revi 12:04, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

  • Oh, -revi, I was unaware there was an issue with the script. It's been awhile, can you refresh my memory on exactly what it was suppose to do? Thanks. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 15:35, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, long time no see... :)
The script was supposed to put {{Uncategorized}}. (Uncategorized template has year/month/day parameters, and js automatically filled it.)  Revi 15:39, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
  • -revi, I'm confused. I'm seeing no errors when I run it, and it seems to be working perfectly based on two quick test uses (diff 1 and diff 2). What is your useragent string? — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 15:50, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
UserAgent I am now won't be that helpful; I'm phone now. Also, error messages were shown below the Search box (on Vector). I can provide you screenshot if you need. (PS. No further ping is needed, as I have watchlisted here.)  Revi 15:55, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
script itself has no problem when running; problem is that bubble error box created below the box.  Revi 15:57, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
  • The userAgent of which ever device returns the error would be useful :) Yes, a screenshot may be helpful, as I'm not able to reproduce the error in Firefox or Internet Explorer (Logged out using IE). Thanks. What do you mean "bubble"? — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 16:08, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
I only use Evil Google's Chrome :P I'll take a screenshot tomorrow. (Note that I couldn't take screenshot tomorrow; I have a exams until Friday. Yeah, I'm a WikiHolic!  Revi 16:13, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
  • I couldn't get any errors or bubbles on Goggle Chrome from my laptop either (diff). Screenshot would be great. Thanks. :) — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 16:25, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikimedia genealogy project[edit]

Just wondering if you have any thoughts re: the idea of WMF hosting a genealogy project. If so, feel free to contribute to this discussion. And apologies if I have made this request before. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:22, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

NAC[edit]

NAC[edit]

Use of the template-editor bit to make contentious changes[edit]

Re this edit which was under discussion at Template talk:Bar percent#Template-protected edit request on 4 December 2014: please see WP:TOOLMISUSE, which applies to TEs as much as to admins. Your recent re-acquisition of the template-editor bit does not give you the right to drive a steamroller through contentious changes. Please restore the colour names that you altered today. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:54, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

  • Yes check.svg Done - Redrose64, that discussion died out over a week and a half ago and I didn't realize there was any contention about what format the colors are. Seems quite BIKESHEDish to me and I'm not going to argue with you over it. The only thing that I will say is that use hex triplets over named colors is a MOS:COMMONALITY issue and the more generalize term is the hex triplet. I would appreciate it if you could show me how using a named color in an ambiguous template, which is the less used format amongst web coding professions, is appropriate because the template has strong national ties to those named colors. I've reverted that part of the change and restored the named colors, and am awaiting your reply. Thank you. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 21:09, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
As I said at Template talk:Bar percent#Template-protected edit request on 4 December 2014, it's an unnecessary change. There are no browsers that do not support the colour value silver, and none that do not support gray (some do not support grey, but that spelling was not used here). If you're going to make changes for the sake of HTML 5 compliance, you need to be sure that any other changes made at the same time are not influenced by personal preference, since others may well prefer the version as it was. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:20, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
I also personally prefer using hex colors rather than word-based, for the sake of standardization/consistency as well as flexibility, to make it non-language-dependent, and because, as you said, some word-based color codes (such as gray grey) are not supported across all browsers, while hex colors are. While status quo may hold some sway, I am unclear why one editor's personal preference for word-based colors should have priority over another editor's personal preference for hex-based colors, and I am not sure how much of it is personal preference, and how much of it is really just coding standards. But I agree with both of you that this is totally a "bike shed" issue. Maybe a broader discussion about standardizing to hex codes could be opened at WP:VPT at some point if necessary, since that seems to be the superior option. Redrose64, for my own enlightenment, what are the technical disadvantages of using hex-based color codes? ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  23:09, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
It's grey, not gray, that is not fully supported. There is no technical reason not to use six-digit hex codes (three-digit hex codes like #F00 for red are a different matter, since they are not recognised by earlier versions of IE). The main problem with hex codes is that they are meaningless for the non-technical (what is the difference between #FF0000 and #FFFF00), whereas any English speaker with normal vision understands red, yellow etc.
What I'm getting at here is that any change to how a template works should be justifiable. Altering align=right to style="text-align:right;" is justified by "HTML5 A vocabulary and associated APIs for HTML and XHTML W3C Recommendation 28 October 2014" section 11.2 Non-conforming features, since recent new browsers written to interpret HTML5 strictly may ignore the align= attribute - several are known to ignore the bgcolor= attribute that is similarly shown as obsolete. Although the latter attribute is obsolete, there's nothing in that section concerning the way that a colour is specified; indeed an example halfway through section 1.9 A quick introduction to HTML gives two colour values thus: background: navy; color: yellow;, so named colours are most emphatically valid HTML5. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:48, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
That's a legitimately good point: a word-based color code is easy to mentally associate with the end result, while a hex-based color code is a bit more abstract and not immediately obvious. However, my point of view is this: it is very reasonable to assume that, in the future, there may be a change to the colors chosen for this template (or another). It's also reasonable to assume that the person editing it will see the current "system" (hex or word), and is likely to follow the same scheme. If it is already hex, we know that whatever new colors are chosen will maintain the same level of total compatibility. If we instead use word, then the new colors may lower compatibility and cause issues because, as you said, not all word-based color codes are compatible with all browsers, and not all colors may correspond to a functioning color code. For that reason, I believe we must promote the use of hex-based color codes over word-based color codes whenever possible, across the entire project. It also provides a much higher level of flexibility and nuance in the actual choice of the colors we use. Of course, that's my opinion, but I'd be more than happy to take it to a broader discussion to see if the community reaches consensus and "formalize" what scheme we should use in templates, whether we should favor hex-based or word-based color codes (or status quo, for reasons similar to WP:RETAIN). I think Technical 13 may be particularly interested in such a discussion if he intends to continue "updating" templates to use hex-based color codes over word-based color codes. ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  21:26, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Salvidrim!, if you do end up starting a discussion on the topic, I'd think it might be worth mentioning that our editing tools such as Remember the dot/Syntax highlighter, wikEd, Extension:CodeEditor, and VE don't support named colors and I know that wikEd does support hex codes. VE-doesn't support colors at all, CodeEditor shows all named colors as green (kind of confusing when you type red and get green styled text) and all hex codes are blue, and highlighter doesn't do anything special with colors at all and treats them simply as parameters. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 21:58, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
I notice that your userpage implies that the TE bit was restored to you at 09:34, December 12, 2014. The logs do not bear this out: they say 14:34, 16 December 2014, which adjusting for EST gives 09:34, December 16, 2014 - four days later than your claim. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:08, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks for pointing that out Redrose64. I didn't reach far enough across my number pad when typing I suppose when I typed it. You say that my time there is EST, are they all EST or are some UTC? I'd actually prefer them to be all UTC, so I'll change them all today based on that info. Thanks again. :) — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 15:54, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
In the Wikimedia databases, dates and times of edits and loggable actions are stored as Unix times, and converted to human-readable format when pages like your watchlist, your contribs, a page history or a page log are visited. The conversion on these pages is always adjusted for the time zone set at Preferences → Appearance → Time offset. By contrast, dates and times in the wikitext of pages - such as in user signatures - are always in the Wiki's default time zone (which for the English Wikipedia, Commons and Meta is UTC) and stored as plain text, with no time zone conversion. If you view the history of a discussion page (such as this one), and the times listed there are different from those in the page text, and the difference is always the same amount - such as five hours - that's a giveaway for your user pref time zone being different from the Wiki's default time zone.
I have deliberately set my time zone on all wikis to whichever option begins "Use wiki default" - on English Wikipedia and several others, that's "Use wiki default (UTC)"; on the French Wikipedia, it's "Use wiki default (Europe/Paris)", which is UTC+1; and so on. This means that for me, the times in text always correspond to the times in page histories, but does mean that I occasionally need to do a mental calculation when I read a recently-posted reply and think "What? That's half an hour in the future". What I suggest is that you set your time zone to "Use wiki default (UTC)", check your user rights log and amend your user page where necessary, and then you can either leave your time zone as UTC, or set it back to "America/New York" or whatever you prefer. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:45, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Citation overkill template[edit]

I left you some feedback here. PizzaMan (♨♨) 23:12, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

RfC: Recent fixtures and upcoming fixtures should not be included in rugby team articles[edit]

I was surprised to see that you had closed this discussion. Your only stated reason for your closing that there is consensus they these lists are non-encyclopedic. I'm having trouble discerning any level of consensus here. After the proponent posted the (non neutral) RfC, three people weighed in to say they are not encyclopedic and two people weighed in to say they are. I don't see the consensus there. If this RfC needed to be closed, it seems like a no consensus close to me.

And did you at all consider the argument that the wikipedians at WP:FOOTY — a much wider community — are fine with these sections? Do you envision that a small number of contributors to an RfC posted on WP:RU should override the standards acceptable to a much larger community? Barryjjoyce (talk) 01:12, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining further the reasons behind your decision to close the RfC. It seems from your explanation above that your reasoning was based in significant part on your view that WP:RU had previously reached consensus on this issue on two occasions. I don't share the view that WP:RU had or has reached the consensus you describe; rather, what you see reflects the views of one highly-motivated editor (Shudde):

  1. The 2007 discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rugby union/Archive 2#Recent fixture, and Upcoming fixtures lists reflects a proposal from one editor that they be removed, a second proposal from another editor regarding a different way of presenting the information, and then further discussion about the second proposal with no meaningful discussion of the original proposal regarding removal. You'll notice that Shudde tried repeatedly to return the discussion to the original topic but received no support — see his three unanswered messages at the bottom of the discussion — and then declared "consensus."
    But don't take my word for it that this discussion reflects a lack of consensus. Other WP:RU editors have interpreted this discussion to mean that "It is fine to have [these sections] on other national team articles" and have minimized the weight of the 2007 discussion as a "7-year old discussion that few participated in."
  2. The guideline at Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union/Style#Upcoming and recent fixtures is something that Shudde wrote. The only other WP:RU member who has commented on this guideline is me describing my opposition. See this talk page. Two people expressing opposing viewpoints does not reflect consensus.
  3. Several WP:RU national team articles currently have these sections, which reflects a lack of consensus across WP:RU. Several editors have have added these sections to articles or restored sections that Shudde had tried to delete. See this Canada talk page discussion and the page's edit history from October 2014 where Shudde was edit warring with two other editors over this and he ended up losing the discussion. I am not aware of anyone other than Shudde trying to remove these sections from articles.

In looking back at the recent RfC, I still don't see any consensus that emerged from that discussion or from this preceding discussion on the WP:RU talk page. Some WP:RU editors are fine with these sections, others are opposed, both sides have dug in. Some editors said they opposed including these sections because they are unencyclopedic — a circular argument. I gave up discussing the issue there based on my perception that further debate was unlikely to change what I viewed as a lack of consensus. I had tried in this edit to explore whether we could build consensus for a compromise position, but it became clear that were was no interest in doing so.

Thanks. Barryjjoyce (talk) 03:26, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

  • Barry. I agree that the nearly eight year old discussion had few participants, but I saw little resistance to it at the time. The only objections seemed to "okay" or at least "whatever" by the end of it, so I considered it a unanimous support for the proposal. That verbiage seems to have been added around that time seven plus years ago, and there were no links to other discussions that had happened in protest of that in the RfC or that I could quickly find (I really didn't look that hard, I feel that if another user familiar with the project doesn't know multiple other objections exist or doesn't care to bring them up, then they probably don't weigh all that much on my final assessment).
What I'd suggest doing, since you seem to feel somewhat strongly about this, is to start a new RfC with the sole purpose of eliminating that section of the guideline. In your description of the problem, make sure that you include links to any and all discussions on the topic so that the new reviewer will have all of the evidence at their disposal (I won't be closing the next discussion on the topic, as I feel it is inappropriate to close consecutive discussions on the same basic topic). Make sure that when you are listing all of the previous discussions that you include a sub-section with all of the sources and things you can find that oppose the use of these fixture sections and all of the ones that support the use. The purpose of doing this in the description is to make sure that your description is as neutral and fair to both sides right up front.
That said, you are more than welcome to add your "personal" feelings, thoughts and objections to the current wording in the discussion section of the RfC. I would be more than happy to review a draft for such and RfC if you want to work it up in your user space. Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 04:22, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback and for the further explanation. I'm thinking about your idea of starting another RfC. If I do, I'll certainly think about your offer of reviewing a draft in advance. Barryjjoyce (talk) 23:12, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Microsoft[edit]

This is the participant list so can you mark people active/inactive without showing it? As in hide all of the other text, as it is very confusing the way it currently is. Itmakes everybody look in active. Thank you, STJMLCC (talk) 19:48, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

  • I'm not very good with LUA, which is why Jackmcbarn has been the module coder and updater. I'll take a look at it later and see what I can do if he doesn't just do it after seeing this post. :) — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 19:51, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
    • In that case how do I make people active? Thanks, STJMLCC (talk) 20:01, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
      • @STJMLCC: The "inactive" parameter is optional. If someone is active, omit it. Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:04, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
        • @Jackmcbarn: Omit The Entire Section Regarding Inactive Or Just The One Word? Thanks, STJMLCC (talk) 20:09, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
        • It's optional, but I don't recommend omitting it if you want the module to mark editors who haven't edited in quite some time as inactive. That said, you do need to update the last edit dates about once a year or so, which shouldn't be too much trouble. This is because there is no way that I know of to get that information from the parser or via Lua, but that may be coming. I also intend to write a script at some point that will update the dates for you with one click. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 20:16, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
      • What you could do is just wait for the module to be updated by Jack or I or another capable editor (you can probably request it on WT:Lua if you are impatient, and then wait for a response which may or may not be faster). Next, looking at the result of the module, you can see that the active ones are green and the inactive ones (as determined by date or blocked status) are red (toggled inactive currently doesn't do this, yet). Your only other option is to spend some time and learn how to script in lua, which may interest you (I know enough about other coding languages to poke at it and know I won't blow things up, but usually defer important things to others). I hope you find this at least slightly helpful. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 20:16, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Ok Works For Me! I Will Use The First Suggestion. Thanks Again, STJMLCC (talk) 20:18, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Flags[edit]

Hi Technical 13, On January 2014 you have expanded Template:Country data Ottoman Empire. Can you source your additions ? Thanks Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 21:03, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Not vandalism I swear[edit]

I fixed up some of your French on your userpage, but now it says "Salvidrim! VANDALIZED!" . :( ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  22:30, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

  • LMAO! I love it! Yes, that is a fairly deeply coded trap I embedded into my template scheme for my user page. I see you changed my wording for the très très petite quantité de Français I know... I'll fix it. :) — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 22:41, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
It's a nifty trick, I'll give you that. :p ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  22:55, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

"Already done by"[edit]

Hey there; while I don't personally mind too much, it's probably not appropriate to post something and sign it as someone else, even if I understand the reason in this case. I'm sure if you keep this up, someone will give you shit for it. I recommend sticking to the usual ANRFC habits and post something like " Already done by Salvidrim!." and signing it yourself. ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  18:55, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

  • I made sure to disclose that I copied the signature to prevent any WP:SIGFORGE concern. I will be more careful in the future. Thank you for stopping by. :) — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 19:04, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
    • Salvidrim!, I tweaked the line a little and added my signature on the end. I hope that resolves any concerns others may have. :) — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 03:40, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Signature tutorial[edit]

Re your revert, if we're going to do that it would make sense to say something about it at the beginning of the examples section. I wouldn't mind doing that myself, but I think you're better qualified to say it correctly. ‑‑Mandruss  03:55, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

  • Mandruss, for reasons I care not to get into, I'd rather you did it based on my response on the talk page. Thank you. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 03:58, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done I think. ‑‑Mandruss  04:14, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Bit of help requested[edit]

Hi T13. I've already pinged you at the Teahouse, but I wondered whether you could take a look at User:Yunshui/portal test when you have a moment. Basically, the idea (not mine!) is to float an image behind the portal - I was able to make the table transparent and add an image with no problems, but I'm not sure how to get the rest of the page visible; the height of the image cuts off everything below. Any ideas? Yunshui  09:40, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Empty edit requests[edit]

Hi, re this reply: people who submit empty edit requests like that are playing "what happens if I press this button?" and never come back with any more information. When all there is is a heading and the contents of Template:Submit an edit request/preload but no clue as to their true intent, it's usually easiest to simply revert with an edit summary like rv empty request, see [[WP:PER]] for correct usage of {{[[Template:Edit protected|edit protected]]}} --Redrose64 (talk) 12:45, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

  • Redrose64, per Jackmcbarn's Edit Protected Helper script (specifically} when I hit the button to remove a section, confirm('Are you sure you want to completely remove this edit request from the page? In general, this should not be done to good-faith requests, even if they are blank, unless they are duplicates of other requests by the same user, etc.');. You are welcome to ask Jackmcbarn about that if you wish. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 15:25, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
    @Redrose64: My logic is that if you remove the request, the requester will probably have no idea why it's gone. If you respond with {{subst:ESp|xy}} (and they see the response), hopefully they'll make their next edit request correctly. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:04, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for CVD![edit]

I knew there had to be a simpler way to sic Earwig on an article, and discovering CVD was an "aha!" moment for me. Thanks so much for your work, and a safe and happy holidays to you! Cheers, Basie (talk) 01:44, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

CloseAFD script not working[edit]

Hello T13, your AFD closing script is not working. Look at this! I didn't find any "close" tab. Although no such "close" tab appears but I noticed that the script is actually loading (See this). I think there is a problem with the script. Jim Carter 12:16, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

  • Jim Cartar, that script currently only gives the close and relist tabs when in edit (action=edit) mode. Your screenshot show that you were expecting to see them when in read (action=view) mode. Please click on the edit link/tab and see if the links appear when the script completes loading. :) Mr.Z-man's script offers tabs and results in read mode currently. :) In a month or so I plan on rebuilding the CloseAFD script to handle all kinds of common discussions and offer links in both read and edit mode and add a bunch of other features like the ability to tag the talk pages of discussions closed as anything other than delete. Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 15:51, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
    • Thanks, T13. I think you should use some codes of Mr.Zman's CloseAFD2 script. I mean an ultimate version of Closing AfD script that will be used by everyone. I have also seen some other CloseAFD scripts which are not well know. Jim Carter 16:55, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
      • That's the plan. :)— {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 17:13, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
        • If that's the plan then I would request you to merge some codes of WP:FWDS to your script. It will be a standalone script for all AFD related work. Cheers, Jim Carter 13:06, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
BTW, Merry Christmas! Jim Carter 13:06, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Help[edit]

I heard you're good at coding stuff. I summoned you on my talk page bug got no response. I was wondering if you could fix the background image, because apparently it doesn't fill the border in wider monitors. Portal:Cosmology. If you like to help "people who cry", help me out there. I personally would leave it that way but SuperHamster was removing the background and adding a boring solid black. Tetra quark (talk) 19:21, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

  • Hey, Tetra quark, I took a look at that and don't have time to get the background image right... I've done a few and they are a real pain to do on here. If you check the sandbox for that page, I did make it HTML5compliant, and you should at least update it to that. When I have some more time, I'll happily go back and see if I can't make the image work. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 19:36, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
    • Ok, my sandbox has your edit. Tetra quark (talk) 13:27, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:The Post-Standard[edit]

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ArbCom stats[edit]

Hi! I was pondering, after the discussion on Jimbo's talk, whether statistics would tell something about the editors that did vote last year, and not this year (did they lose interest, did they all forget to vote, hide under a rock, left, or are all banned?), as well as the 'new' voters (who did not vote last year or ever). I can't escape the feeling that most people simply found nothing to support, and therefore did not vote. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:23, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

  • I agree that some statistics for established first time voters/established editors who chose not to vote/etc might be interesting. I'll keep that in mind when I'm compiling data. :) — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 05:30, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure/delete[edit]

Technical13, you have been using Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure/delete and similar templates to track the old RfDs that need closing. You've been invoking them with {{/delete….}}. However, this is a problem. The requests for closure list is transcluded to the Admin's notice board, where it appeared as red links until I created redirects at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/delete. These template calls will break again when the post is archived. You might need to consider a different solution to handling this. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 16:02, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

  • Wasn't aware the are transcluded. I'll take care of that soon™ ;) — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 16:11, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

closemfd.js[edit]

Reference discussion at User_talk:Doug/closemfd.js. Please see JohnCD's comment at User_talk:Doug#Update_broke_closemfd_script. Thoughts?--Doug.(talk contribs) 14:23, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

align right[edit]

When changing align=right to a style, as in this edit, it should be changed to style="text-align:right;" rather than style="align:right;" -- WOSlinker (talk) 16:50, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

  • WOSlinker, yes, I'm aware of that. I just overlooked it on that case. Thank you for fixing it. :) — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 16:53, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas![edit]

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Dear Technical 13,
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! Best wishes to you, your family and relatives this holiday season! Take this opportunity to bond with your loved ones, whether or not you are celebrating Christmas. This is a special time for everybody, and spread the holiday spirit to everybody out there! Face-smile.svg
From a fellow editor,
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Seasonal Greets![edit]

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Hello Technical 13, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2015.
Happy editing,
Darylgolden(talk) 02:34, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Please proofread mass-messages[edit]

Your recent mass message contained double section headers and a broken template in the footnote. — xaosflux Talk 04:17, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

  • Thanks for letting me know Xaosflux. I saw the double header once I sent it out, and wasn't impressed. I didn't see the double header when I clicked preview, and am not impressed. I didn't see a broken template, and still don't. Might be in the section that is scrolled off my screen, I'll have to check it when I get home in a couple days and have a computer. I'll decide if it's worth going through with AWB and fix then or not. Anyways, I really do appreciate you letting me know and I hope you have a happy holiday season. :D — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 05:37, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
On second review, the template is OK (it was your signature)--If you have any suggestions for improving the prompt for mass message, drop an editrequest over at MediaWiki talk:Massmessage-form-header, feel free to ping me on there too. — xaosflux Talk 06:00, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
Happy holiday to you as well! — xaosflux Talk 06:00, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas[edit]

Christmas tree sxc hu.jpg
Merry Christmas!!
Hello, I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year,

Thanks for all your help on the 'pedia! Face-smile.svg

   –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 04:45, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Peace and Prosperity to You[edit]

Merry Christmas[edit]

Chris Troutman (talk) 14:25, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Seasonal Greets![edit]

Wikipedia Happy New Year.png Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2015!!!

Hello Technical 13, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2015.
Happy editing,
De728631 (talk) 17:19, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Please remove me from your spam list[edit]

I have certainly never given you permission to add me to a list for religious spam, let alone to misuse the massmessage function to do so. Please remove me from your spam list, and I would strongly suggest you consider deleting it altogether. Mogism (talk) 20:02, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

@Mogism: - it's not "religious spam" - it's a holiday message. Delete it, move on, and play Grinch somewhere else. It was a very kind gesture. Dusti*Let's talk!* 20:17, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Non-neutral non-admin close[edit]

Please remove your subjective bias from the closure you did at WT:ICONS. Its not the job of an RFC closer to offer opinions on whether concerns raised are "valid" or not. Community consensus determines whether they're valid, it's the closer job simply to note that they were raised (or not - mentioning such complaints at all is highly unusual in a close). If the community determined that the concerns raised, that MOS:ICONS is a WP:LOCALCONSENSUS, were valid, then it would not longer be a guideline. You're actually misunderstanding LOCALCONSENSUS. It simply isn't possible for MOS:ICONS to be one, because it's a site-wide guideline. Our site-wide policies and guidelines are, by definition, that which is not a LOCALCONSNSUS, and are the bar against which local consensuses (most often formed in topical wikiprojects like the ones that most frequently vent about MOS:ICONS and MOS in general) are measured. So your comment, that the concerns that part of MOS are a local consensus are valid, is a two-fold close error.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  14:40, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Equazcion/userinfo.js[edit]

User:Equazcion/userinfo.js for edit count statistics still links to Tparis' tool at toolserver. --Fauzan✆ talk✉ mail 17:20, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

revision history statistics[edit]

hi, the "revision history statistics " Revision history statistics link for Wikipedia en is kinda down, if you have a chance to look at it,,,,,,,,,,,BTW Happy Holidays--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 20:20, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

  • Cyberpower678, is this an issue with the tool or an issue with labs? Can we get Ozzie reporting this to whomever needs to be involved in fixing the issue every time it goes down, I am at a point that I don't want to hear about it anymore. Thanks. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 20:24, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
    Neither do I. I'll have a look.—cyberpower ChatOffline 20:26, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
thanks , sorry for the issue, it just happens--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 20:30, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Try it now. It looks like it just simply is being hammered with a lot of requests.—cyberpower ChatOffline 20:32, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
its perfect, Happy New year--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 21:15, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Deleted Image[edit]

You failed to spot (TW) in the edit summary :-) There tends to be dozens, even hundreds of image to delete. So I use a combination of Twinkle and AWB at the same time. Twinkle's deli-batch to delete images (which have just been quickly checked one by one to ensure that permission has not been provided), also Twinkle kindly adds the "commented" out code to every page that every image appeared (which you noted), and AWB takes care of the orphaned image talk pages. Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:41, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

  • No worries. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 01:27, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Can you help me become a template editor[edit]

Can you please help me become a template editor, as I want to learn.NetworkOP (talk) 13:09, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

  • The first step to being a good template editor is to learn exactly what templates are and how transclusion works. Please read the links on User:Technical_13/Guides/TemplateMaking#Lesson_1. While I won't promise that you'll gain the Padlock-pink.svg Template editor bit, I can say that you'll have a better understanding and appreciation for templates and have the resources to do what you need to do to get the bit. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 13:23, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Volunteering[edit]

In a world where everyone working here is volunteering, it would be wise to remember that yelling about shitty code every time someone quickly solves a problem due to a request in -en-help because it wasn't a 100% optimal solution is a pretty damn good way to just get everyone to leave the project, instead. I'm sorry that my edit wasn't up to your absolutely perfect code standards. But at least I actually checked all test cases first, instead of just doing it blindly on a widely used template. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 17:25, 28 December 2014 (UTC)