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Your change to Template:Archive basics[edit]

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This week's article for improvement (week 31, 2014)[edit]


The Sistine Hall of the Vatican Library

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I want to know why you thought it was OK to create a lot of pages that I did not ask for. Apparently I now have to do work to remove your unwanted crap. Why don't you Get.A.Life and stop "helping" people. I need an answer you twat. If I don't get an answer I will plague you until I do. By the way, I think you are a very sad person.Jodosma (talk) 18:51, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

  • You asked for a database dump of everything with an improper case of a zodiac sign. I gave you everything with an improper case of a zodiac sign. You don't want them anymore, simply CSD them. No harm, no foul. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 06:18, 31 July 2014 (UTC)


Hello, I've had to revert your changes to Template:YearInNorthernIrelandNav as they were causing the template to display incorrectly. - X201 (talk) 10:35, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

  • X201 I don't see any complaints on the talk page Template talk:YearInNorthernIrelandNav. Can you point me to what exactly the complaint is? You undid a lot of useful changes there, some of them are template breaking. Please specify the exact problem, and I'll look into exactly what was causing that. Thanks. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 15:31, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
It was via The Help Desk. The template was twice as large as it should have been and had error messages in it. - X201 (talk) 16:11, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
See screenshot. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:51, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the screenshot Red. Always very helpful for troubleshooting. Should be all fixed now with the updated code. Thanks for the report. :) — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 18:54, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Aloha, A while ago you fixed my signature so that it was coded correctly. To avoid breaking it again, I wanted to ask you to take a look at the following code:

<small><span style="text-shadow:4px 4px 15px #F08,-4px -4px 15px #F08;">[[User:Solarra|<b style="color:#CC0099;font-family:Comic Sans MS;">♥ Solarra ♥]]</span></small><sub>[[User talk:Solarra|T]] ♪ [[Special:Contribs/Solarra|C]]</sub>

Let me know what you think! ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ Talk ♪ ♀ Contribs ♀ 09:35, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Solarra: Two problems: (i) the <b style="color:#CC0099;font-family:Comic Sans MS;"> is not balanced by a closing </b>; (ii) the contrast ratio between text and background (see WP:SIGAPP) is way too low - it is only 1.39:1, but at least 4.5:1 is required for WCAG 2.0 (Level AA) compliance. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:07, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
  • 1.39:1 isn't exactly correct as the background shadow isn't a solid color. I agree that the contrast is still too low, and I have suggested something that looks okay to me below. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 14:12, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
  • <small><span style="text-shadow:4px 4px 15px #F6E,-4px -4px 15px #F6E;">[[User:Solarra|<b style="color:#C09;font-family:Comic Sans MS">♥ Solarra ♥</b>]]</span></small><sub>[[User talk:Solarra|T]] ♪ [[Special:Contribs/Solarra|C]]</sub>
    (♥ Solarra ♥ TC) seems fine to me. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 14:12, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Where a gradient is in use (this includes a shadow), you need to consider both ends of the gradient. Whilst #C09 on white gives a contrast ratio of 5.21:1, which satisfies Level AA, #C09 on #F6E gives a contrast ratio of 2.08:1 - still too low. You need to either lighten up the shadow to about #FFE8FD or deepen the text to about #730056 to get the desired 4.5:1 --Redrose64 (talk) 14:56, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
You have some choices to look over. Pick the one that you like best. :) — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 15:11, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
4.53:1 - fine. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:33, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Wow, I wasn't expecting this level of assistance, thank you much! I found one that seems to comply with WP:SIGAPP. Thank you again for your help! <3 ♥ Solarra ♥ TC 18:36, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 32, 2014)[edit]

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Lucky the Dinosaur at Walt Disney World was the first animatronic creation to walk on land

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template question[edit]

OK, I thought I had this figured out, but I missed something. The infobox in 2014–15_UMass_Minutewomen_basketball_team has "women's" in the title.

I made an edit to {{Infobox NCAA team season/name}} to turn off the inclusion. It seems to work fine in the example (bottom example on the template page), but not when used in the team page.

I thought perhaps it would take some time to propagate, because it is a couple levels down, but I made the change yesterday, and it is still wrong. Can you tell what I did wrong?--S Philbrick(Talk) 11:09, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

  • That is some convoluted nesting going on there. I'm not seeing where it is suppose to remove "women's" if team contains "women" or sport is "women's basketball". Can you point that out to me? — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 20:41, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I agree it is convoluted. As an important aside, I wanted to help convert this to Lua and do it right, see Wikipedia:Lua_requests#Module:Infobox_NCAA_team_season but it appears I need to wait for Capiunto to be released. Assuming that will take some time is why I'm trying to patch the existing one.

In {{Infobox NCAA team season/name}}, first look at the example at the very bottom and you can see it worked. "2014–15 UMass Minutewomen basketball team" without the word "women's". If you glance at the code, you can see the nested tests to handle each of the exceptions. Because I'm on unfamiliar ground, I did not add UMass to the end, but as the next to last item, but I don;t think that should matter.

I did it first in the {{Infobox NCAA team season/name/sandbox}}, then, some time later, made the change to the main template. I sort of understand that it doesn't happen immediately, and may have to propagate through the job queue, but I made the edit on the 5th of August, so I don't think a slow job queue is the answer.

So it seems to work fine in the examples, taking:

2014–15 UMass Minutewomen women's basketball team

as input and spitting out:

2014–15 UMass Minutewomen basketball team

as output, but in 2014–15 UMass Minutewomen basketball team the heading shows as

2014–15 UMass Minutewomen women's basketball

Notice that 1992–93 Texas Tech Lady Raiders basketball team works, the infobox heading is

1992–93 Texas Tech Lady Raiders basketball

Rather than:

1992–93 Texas Tech Lady Raiders women's basketball

--S Philbrick(Talk) 19:11, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

  • Sphilbrick, has it fixed itself yet? It sometimes takes a week and rarely a couple months for stuff to get through the job queue. If it has been a couple weeks I'll dig deeper into it, but I've kind of been putting it off hoping it just hadn't gone through yet. I can't see any specific reason why it shouldn't be working other than that. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 08:59, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Then let's wait. I thought the job queue was slow, but not that slow.--S Philbrick(Talk) 12:13, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

You can probably eyeball this in 2 seconds[edit]

... but my coding sucks, so I can't. the first script works ... but when tipsy() gets up to 100 "if" lines, it's just ugly, so I'm trying to rewrite it as the second script ... but I don't know the name of the function I need to make it work, and I'm probably making stupid syntax errors as well ... can you see how to fix it? Please let me know if you don't have time and I'll ask at VPT. - Dank (push to talk) 20:15, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

if (mw.config.get( 'wgAction' ) === 'view')
mw.loader.using(['jquery.highlightText', 'jquery.tipsy'], function() {
    mw.util.$content.highlightText(' wishy washy');
        title: function() { 
                if ($(this).text()==='wishy') returntext = '"Wishy" is a very silly word; don\'t use it.';
            else if ($(this).text()==='washy') returntext = '"Washy" is even worse.';
            return returntext;

var phrases = {'wishy': '"Wishy" is a very silly word; don\'t use it.', 'washy': '"Washy" is even worse.'};
var argstring = '';
for (var i=0; i<phrases.length; ++i) { argstring = argstring + ' ' + (some function that picks out the keys (ids) in "phrases", one by one) }
if (mw.config.get( 'wgAction' ) === 'view')
mw.loader.using(['jquery.highlightText', 'jquery.tipsy'], function() {
        title: function() { returntext = phrases.getElementById($(this).text()); 
            return returntext;
(talk page stalker) @Dank: Replace:
var argstring = '';
for (var i=0; i<phrases.length; ++i) { argstring = argstring + ' ' + (some function that picks out the keys (ids) in "phrases", one by one) }
var argstring = Object.keys(phrases).join(" ")
Should work. Object.keys(arg) retrieves all of the property keys (i.e. names) in the object "arg" (or, in your script, the object "phrases") and returns it as an array. the join(arg) method of arrays concatenates all of the elements of an array into a string, using the arg as the separator (here, we use " ", to insert a space between each element). I think that's what you're going for. Writ Keeper  20:53, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Fantastic, that works! Okay ... now I need (I'm not kidding) a change in a single character in a single function, and I'll be good to go ... please see the last paragraph at WP:Lua_requests#Lua_library_to_implement_Javascript_regexes.3F. I don't know why I haven't been able to get help with this yet, I've got people at FAC asking for my scripts, and I can't deliver yet. - Dank (push to talk) 21:30, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Oops, there's one bug ... I took a guess with "phrases.getElementById", apparently that was the wrong guess. If you copy the first snippet into your vector.js file, you'll see that the word "wishy" will appear in bold, and you get a popup if you hover. With your fix, I'm getting the bolding, but I'm not getting the popup. What function should I be using in place of phrases.getElementById? - Dank (push to talk) 21:39, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Oh, yeah, that would be a problem. getElementById is for locating HTML elements by their id attribute (and there's basically no reason to ever use it when you have jQuery, where you get the same thing by just doing $("#<id name>")). Just use it as if it were an array index. To wit: phrases[$(this).text()]. Writ Keeper  21:56, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
That fixed it, thanks. I haven't gotten a reply to the last paragraph at WP:Lua_requests#Lua_library_to_implement_Javascript_regexes.3F; would you recommend VPT next? - Dank (push to talk) 23:18, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Template Error[edit]


I've created a copy of Template:User current age on wikimedia commons. It is giving this error
Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "[".
I request you to see and solve this problem. This is the page for that copy of template. Thanks! --Asadwarraich (talk) 08:13, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

  • Asadwarraich, when you copy templates from one site to another, you need to make sure to copy all the templates it depends on (and the ones they depend on and so on) as well. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 08:45, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

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Sheridan Le Fanu was one of the leading ghost story writers of the nineteenth century

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A historical map of West Africa from 1707

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Thank you for the lovely invitation.[edit]

Thank you for your lovely invitation, I will be sure to join those experienced editors at the teahouse to get some of their advice so I can improve my edits on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fonovo (talkcontribs) 11:21, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

  • Wonderful. You can also post questions here if you like, although, you will likely get a better variety of answers quicker by posting there. :) Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 11:42, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Copyvio detector stuff[edit]


Rumor has it that you have some kind of JS tool that opens all links in a given page in my copyvio checker. Well, the checker is now smart enough to test all URLs in the page itself as part of its general check (which you asked for... oh... about 14 months ago), so if you want, you can probably update it to just open the one URL which does the regular check (without &url=) and not open a bunch of separate requests simultaneously.

Let me know how it goes. — Earwig talk 09:57, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

  • Earwig, No webservice

    The URI you have requested, /copyvios/, is not currently serviced.
    {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 16:38, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Technical 13 Gah... sorry, fixed now; it looks like Labs is having some issues with webservers shutting down, so I might need to look into auto-restarting it or something if this happens again... — Earwig talk 17:40, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

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HD preload template[edit]

Hi Technical 13, could you explain to me how changing the header messes up the template? I'm new to templates so I'm not sure how this works. Thank you! —gdfusion (talk|contrib) 22:48, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

  • The template that is posted on the user's talk page via templates and links offers them a link back to the section based on an expected header. By changing the header, all of those links on user's talk pages were broken. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 03:44, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
    @Gdfusion: I've restored your changes along with an anchor that fixes the problem that T13 raised. Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:54, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
    Thank you for explaining this to me and correcting it! :) —gdfusion (talk|contrib) 16:44, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:+3[edit]

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