User talk:TenPoundHammer/Archive 13

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I Said

I Said is an article about a single but doesn't say it charted, just was released and was on a mix cd. Not sure how to check to see if it charted, but sounds like it doesn't pass. DENNIS BROWN (T) (C) 18:01, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Handedness and mathematical ability

Hi there, thanks for your answers. I think I got the title wrong. Case sensitive? Here is the page I was referring to: Handedness and mathematical ability--lightspeedchick (talk) 00:54, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Rickrolling

Hey, sorry that I took a bit to reply - I've been rather busy this weekend. Anyway, I'm still slightly concerned about the vandalism on the page - there have been many reverted edits, but notably, many were IP addresses trying to be constructive, but making unreferenced or non-notable contributions. I've discussed it with other editors who are active in GAN, and decided to wait a few more days to see if negative vandalism continues or increases or not - if so, maybe we can semi-protect the page to fix the problem, but I'm not sure if the article passes criterion #5 at this point. Otherwise, the article looks really good, though. On a side note, I think that the article may be misinterpreting xkcd comic #485, or at least, the statement does not seem to have much to do with rickrolling itself, only Astley. Maybe it's that the computer is being rickrolled? Firebat08 (talk) 01:36, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying

Thanks for clarifying the category-name situation for "The" Oak Ridge Boys. --Orlady (talk) 17:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Speed

Congratulations on the speed with which you cleared the 'helpme' tags on my talk page.

The first reply suggests that only the first sentence of my query was read.

The follow-up was enigmatic. What did "weird" mean? Weird that it was moved? Weird that I objected to the move?

The suggestion to "take it to WP:MFD" seemed odd. Isn't WP:MFD for pages that one doesn't want to exists _anywhere_? Clearly, that isn't what I was after.

The page is moved back now. In what was a bad precedent, the hijacker was appeased.

Nice speed. -Ac44ck (talk) 23:12, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

How can it be original research?

The first half of the sentence states that she and Chowder are of the same species, and Panini looks more like a rabbit than Chowder does. HalfShadow 01:58, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Sonny Throckmorton

Updated DYK query On 25 November, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sonny Throckmorton, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 13:53, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Look

Look, I'm not trying to be uncivil, I am trying to remain civil, I just didn't appreciate the template, and I saw you rethought it. So I should be less curt. And you're right, my edit summary probably wasn't appropriate. Some days aren't the greatest, so I apologize if I offended you, I meant no foul. --IvoShandor (talk) 19:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Well I am sorry, and I guess the article benefits from this pointless spat, all ends well in Wikiland today. --IvoShandor (talk) 19:49, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Now I shall listen to the song on YouTube, lament our e-fisticuffs, and breathe a sigh of joy and relief, for once. --IvoShandor (talk) 19:50, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

RE:My talk page

Please do not elliminate content without asking me first. Thanks, MHLUtalk 01:02, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

DJ, Take Me Away

I'm a bit busy on my march to the sea, but it would be nice if you could take a look at DJ, Take Me Away and the pile of not-traditionally-notable songs in its navbox. Perhaps a list, instead?—Kww(talk) 02:28, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Could I persuade you to do it? I've got 500 more articles on my list of "Articles with bad charts" to visit, and then I have to build a new list of them. I'm trying for 100 a day, and that gets pretty damn tedious. I'll get to it next month if you haven't got the energy or inclination.—Kww(talk) 02:35, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

User talk:DebbieFeldmanJones

Just FYI, User talk:DebbieFeldmanJones has left a reply for you on her talk page. Cheers, AmaltheaTalk 17:05, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Found a Nice Source

I headed to the library here today and found "The Encyclopedia of Popular Music" on the third floor with other reference materials. I promptly got out Book 7 and located the article on Kenny Rogers, photocopied the three needed pages (30 cents well spent IMO), and noted everything I need to reference the article in case I add to Kenny's article page itself. While leaving, I recalled you were looking for some Alabama info. I am considering heading back and finding Book 1 (which I figure it'd be in) and photocopying those pages should you want help with that article as well. I won't be able to return to the library until next week after today passes, but are there other groups or country artists for which I can provide information? Just ask and I can make a weekly/bi-weekly trip to get info, maybe spending time editing the article from the library itself instead of bringing more paper home (at the cost of a dollar to park for 48 minutes LMAO - might be better to just photocopy).

They might have the books at your library, too. They list artist discographies, too, though sometimes novelty albums may be missing - see Kenny Rogers' Short Stories album, for instance, which was not in the encyclopedia but I know came in 1985 - I have pictures of the record itself thanks to the eBay seller I got them from!

CycloneGU (talk) 20:06, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

hi why won't you tell me how to edit i don't get it

=( David-on-wheels (talk) 17:58, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

what's encyclopedia dramatica and what's a meme?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by David-on-wheels (talkcontribs) 18:00, 28 November 2008 (UTC) kthx David-on-wheels (talk) 18:08, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Request for assistance

If an otter wants to help out a fellow editor, I could really use someone to archive my usertalk pages as it would take me two or three hours to figure it out. Thanks. Atlantabravz (talk) 22:23, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Q on formatting discographies

I am admiring your discography tables and wondering how you do that? I'm about ready to post a stub for Oh Boy Records, and have assembled the company's discography in Excel form, but really don't want to type in a zillion || and -- to make the tables nice. I think I can insert new rows in Excel with the characters needed, then post it, but thought you might have a better way? Regards, Chuckiesdad (talk) 04:19, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh well, I'll start typing. Thanks for the insight. Chuckiesdad (talk) 04:24, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Just found a utility for converting spreadsheets in Help:Table#Spreadsheet to wiki table format, it's not perfect but it seems to work for the basics. Regards, Chuckiesdad (talk) 07:09, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Devoted to You (song)

How did you ever come up with the comment that "Nobody ever released it as a single"? The song was released by the Everly Brothers as Cadence #1350, in 1958. The song hit the TOP 10 charts, of all things. Your proposal for deletion seems to be based on a total lack of knowledge of the details of the song's history. -- BRG (talk) 14:22, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

I think when I created the article originally (this was over 2 years ago, so I'm not certain) I didn't have the chart data on it; I only had chart data prior to 1954. And in fact, I just copied the data from Mookie's comment on the deletion page, rather than check it out, assuming it was correct; I knew the song was a major hit, so I believe what he gave. -- BRG (talk) 20:33, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Moving

Time for me to learn something new. How do we go about moving pages? I went to create "Greatest Country Hits", which is a Kenny Rogers album. I loaded it up, expecting it to be a disambiguation page. Instead, a Glen Campbell album has the page owned. Can we rename it to "Greatest Country Hits (Glen Campbell album)", which will be the same title style that I use for Kenny's, and let the title page be a disambiguation? I personally find this preferable compared with just slapping a disambiguation note on Campbell's page as a user searching just the title doesn't get confused then.

The coincidence? Both albums were released in 1990. Who knew?

CycloneGU (talk) 03:57, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Reply copied from CycloneGU's talk page and retitled topic here to match.
To move a page, you click the "move" tab at the top. I moved the Glen Campbell album, you can fix the links left behind so they point to the Glen album. Then when you've done that and made the page for the Kenny album I'll make a dab for you. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 03:59, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Sure thing, I'll get right to work on that.
In the meantime, Greatest Country Hits (Kenny Rogers album) is now up and I'll get to a disambiguation page for the pair as well. I think that completes Rogers' 1990 history; I'll put in the chronology later after a couple more years are up.
CycloneGU (talk) 04:21, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
That was quick. I only found one link to fix, on the discography. That's done, and the disambiguation page is there. While, according to disamb principles, there are only two uses and the page may not be needed, I will differ in that both are titles of albums, and I'm sure other albums have shared the same name over the years, making the page necessary. =)
BTW, what is a "dab"?
CycloneGU (talk) 04:34, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Reply copied as above.
You mean on each album page (such as this one)? I don't have full names, the information I have comes from AllMusic directly. Even in the linked case, I have pictures of the disc and thus don't have the full names there either. If you don't mean the album pages like the linked one, please clarify what you mean. Maybe I can get something else from AllMusic, I'll check into it. CycloneGU (talk) 18:16, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
To the reply on my page, you mean create a page for each song title and include full name info there? I haven't created any song pages yet, I've merely been linking to what's already there. Or do you mean on AllMusic? CycloneGU (talk) 19:00, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
I get it now. =) I noticed while going through the 1999 A&E disc that, on some songs, you find only an initial, not a full name. I did find what you refer to on AllMusic. I'll see what I can do, but for now, I'm going to at least get the albums in place then I can perhaps include links for each song on each page, too.
Would linking to a page about an artist from their last name be amenable? Or is having it on the album page preferable?
CycloneGU (talk) 19:32, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Cheers for all the advice! One more question. Do we follow the same principle for compilation albums, or just studio albums? CycloneGU (talk) 19:42, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

Working Man's Barnstar.png The Working Man's Barnstar
Awarded for your tireless contributions to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion including starting over 1000 deletion discussions. Guest9999 (talk) 03:16, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Does this mean your deletionist ways are finally paying off, Chowder? treelo radda 12:51, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Maybe. :-P Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 18:03, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Adding an award for deleting articles. Kinda seems like an irony or something, doesn't it? =) CycloneGU (talk) 06:17, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Carmelita Fox

Please note that the character does get a number of references on Google News, which I have begun adding to the article. Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 17:46, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

Resilient Barnstar.png The Resilient Barnstar
Your contribution and commitment to Wikipedia has been undetering.You are a true Wikipedian and honesty Wikipedia works because of people like you Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


Really sad that your RFAs have not gone through and you along with User:Wisdom89 have been really very unlucky not to be an Admin.But you like him have been undetered and your commitment has not gone down a bit even after each RFA fails and actually I see you only getting better .I have seen one wikipedian who took 15 hours for one edit and sadly left after on the wire closure.[1] Sadly this Wikipedian who used to work for 15 hours for one edit sadly is not around and his drawing where truly outstanding.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk About Fast Turnaround

No need to reply on my page for this one, it's a quick one.

The Kenny Rogers Singles Album is complete, names and all, and baring adding info in the future, I foresee no future edits. I have decided to go to a few compilation albums for now to get those main ones out of the way, and I'll go to the studio albums later on a single run-through, noting ones that still need info. Shockingly, there was a single track on this compilation whose composer was not on AllMusic; fortunately, an eBay seller was able to identify the composer of the song "Sail Away" as Rafe Van Hoy.

Clearly, I cannot source the info to another site, but it comes from someone who was looking right at the record as she typed it to me (I got track times too). I think album articles are one of few that can break sourcing rules (acquire the record and there is the info), but WOULD having this completed this way break Wikipedia boundaries for sourcing? I presume not since it's right on the record; I have pictures of the "Short Stories" album as I noted, and it gave me a few missing artists too. Do I just have to submit the reference as independent research and not published online, or how can I handle that?

Again, I'm keeping this page up, just reply here and I'll see it. I'll be visiting your page quite a bit in the future, I feel. =)

Did you find the music encyclopedia at the library, BTW? If not, just let me know if you ever need anything from it, I can look and update articles.

CycloneGU (talk) 06:36, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

... very much for your help. EagleScout18 (talk) 03:19, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Template:LDSInfobox

Templates go to templates for deletion, not miscellany for deletion. Mind if I move the discussion for you? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 05:04, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

No, please do...sorry, it's getting late over here and my eyes are giving out on me :) --Eustress (talk) 05:08, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Flagicons (...again)

Hey, thanks for trying to help me out, but I'm not sure I completely understand your answer. Maybe I'm completely off the mark on this, but are you saying you understand WP:FLAGBIO as saying not to put flags anywhere in the infobox because, as it says, "[...] putting a German flag in his infobox, for any reason, might lead the casual reader to assume he is or was a German citizen."? The policy only says that goes for "the birth and death information in [...] an infobox". But if one assumes it goes for the entire infobox, what about flags before a person's uncontroversial and verifiable nationality? They wouldn't give anyone false assumptions, which is the rationale behind FLAGBIO. Again, I might have completely misunderstood your answer, but I can't figure out what else you could've meant...

Also, the reason I'm asking about this is because I've seen an admin removing the flags, but can't find a policy/guideline on it, and don't want to start removing them myself without being able to point back at something. I hope I'm not bothering you too much with this, especially after finding out you're (surprisingly I might add) not an admin - and hence haven't signed up for this :P Thanks again! --aktsu (t / c) 00:21, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

TPH is wrong - MOS specifically makes the difference between using a flag icon for nationality and place of birth/death. --Vintagekits (talk) 09:34, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
My bad. I must have misread something. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 15:26, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
No problem mate.--Vintagekits (talk) 16:08, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: The First Step

That would be just fine, but we should wait for the AfD result first, which, if the result is anything other than keep, will allow you to freely rewrite the article to be about a different subject. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 22:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Australia country peaks

I certainly will help. But it is hard to find all peaks since there is little resource (if you found one please tell me). Also some Australian artists didn't even have a page yet...... Langdon (talk) 23:35, 3 December 2008 (UTC)i7114080

Rickrolling

Hey, I'm really sorry that that took so long - I got sick last week, and between recovering and the work I had to catch up on, I didn't get any time to go on Wikipedia. Anyway, I think that the page has developed very well, and all of my concerns have been dealt with, and I have thus passed the article. Great job! Firebat08 (talk) 23:40, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

100k city mayor templates

After your action at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2008 December 3, I think you might want to comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cities#100k_city_templates.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 16:17, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I misread this edit summary.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:41, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Cakerolling

If you want to speedy-delete an article with an AfD template on it, just indicate this on the AfD page. Obvious speedy-delete candidates can be speedy-deleted through the AfD process, using WP:SNOWBALL as a justification, if there is no significant dissent on the AfD page. -- The Anome (talk) 18:17, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Hello again. Please don't add speedy delete tags to articles undergoing AfD. You really don't need to do it: once an AfD is under way, speedy deletion is still possible, under the WP:SNOWBALL provision. Re-adding the speedy delete template actually makes things harder for admins who are trying to speedy-close AfDs, because it makes the client-side Javascript on the deletion form give the wrong prompts. If, on the other hand, there are significant reasonable arguments in the AfD for keeping the article, it would need to go through the entire AfD process anyway, and the speedy delete template would pjust confuse the process. -- The Anome (talk) 18:27, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Skyroof

Just getting back to you about skyroof: wanted to let you know I have listed it on AFD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Skyroof. —Lowellian (reply) 21:01, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

TrekWars

Thanks for sending it up to CSD. See my talk page for an interesting discussion I had about it with an admin. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 19:10, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: removing personal blogs from articles

Thank you for your quick response about removing personal blogs from articles. Could you please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Theserialcomma_-_Wikihounding, as the editor who threatened me originally has filed an ANI against me anyway, even though your response was clear, and even though he said if i removed the blog again, he'd file a report. I didn't do remove the blog again, and he still filed the report, so I think he's just trying to goad/harass me. it's like saying, if you step over this line, i will shoot. and then shooting regardless of whether the person stepped over the line. Theserialcomma (talk) 01:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Years in country music

Sure thing. Just one question: how should it be handled if a song peaked in America and Canada in different years? Eric444 (talk) 06:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

The Girl That I Used To Be

I'd hate to see WP:Articles for deletion/The Girl That I Used To Be get closed as "no consensus" because not enough editors said anything. It's at four days already.—Kww(talk) 00:52, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I guess with a name like yours, you get used to swinging a bigger hammer than I do. If there's even the slightest grain of plausibility, I generally take these things to AFD just in case someone else can find a source.—Kww(talk) 01:43, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Sol Melia

I left a message for you on my talk page. OneCyclone (talk) 02:08, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Speedy A9

Hi, You used WP:CSD A9 for December's Keep, but it wasn't appropriate: that's for recordings only and specifically says it doesn't apply to other material. A song (widely available as sheet music etc) is not the same as a recording. See my discussion with Gogo Dodo at User_talk:PamD#Re:_December.27s_Keep. PamD (talk) 08:39, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Dancing To A Different Beat

Ambox warning pn.svg

An article that you have been involved in editing, Dancing To A Different Beat, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dancing To A Different Beat. Thank you. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 14:51, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

The result was speedy-delete:Vandalism/bad-faith contribution, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Different Beat and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dancing To A Different Beat. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 19:43, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Kathy Mattea albums

I do put effort into my album entries. I always try to get both names in but was short on time and intended to go back. I'll pass on Mattea's then and go to other artists. I'm not being defensive here and appreciate your efforts to make the entries complete, as do I. Keep up the good work. Regards, Bruce. Airproofing (talk) 17:56, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. I've done virtually the whole Chet Atkins discography albums over the past year and do have questions here and there. If you notice anything that could be improved or clarified in the entries, let me know.Airproofing (talk) 18:10, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Re:Help

Thanks for responding, I'll try asking elsewhere. Mayank12 (talk) 21:37, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Lookit who got Gr*wp'd!

Wear it as a badge of honour, as anyone who has been the victim of move vandalism knows it simply means you're doing the right thing and the vandals are aware of that. Anyway, you deletionist pig, hope the move-prot does you well and time is still against you on the other thing yknow. Pick up the pace as me and Gorgy will keep making it add up! treelo radda 22:24, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Re Help

Thanks for response.

I found who I was looking for via his contributions on related pages. Seems he hasn't been active in two years

and won't be interested (my guess). Still, if I google "John Reppy" I get my user page on Wikipedia........Don't fully understand.... Calamitybrook (talk) 23:17, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Category stuff

Hi, Thanks for taking the time to alert me to Category:Vocal trios. I also wanted to let you know that I just repositioned the top part of the closing template at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_December_8#Chaotic_articles_categories, which wound up in the preceding section because you had inserted it above the section heading, instead of right below. Btw, I would have closed it out myself, but since deletions were involved I thought it should be closed an admin. Am I wrong about that? How did they get deleted so quickly? Cgingold (talk) 00:12, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

Man, it is HARD to list stuff on AfD nowadays! More fun from MascotGuy even when he isn't creating sockpuppets...and more work for me. Anyway, thanks much for putting that speedy notice on the page. Owe ya one. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Please read my response to your !vote. It wasn't me who made G5 not apply. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:45, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Uh, you neglected to do what I say...

...so I did it for you. I removed the link to my wiki for The Powerpuff Girls on the article due to ELNO.

However, I'm not angry at you or anything.
~~LDEJRuff~~ (see what I've contributed) 23:04, 8 December 2008 (EDT)

Wait, you knew the link wasn't any good but you added it anyway so someone else (TPH) would have to remove it and have the audacity to turn around and say "you forgot to clean up my mess but I'm not angry" when you finally remove it? Bit wp:pointy if you ask me. treelo radda 04:22, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Marion

You might be interested in my response to your comment. - Mgm|(talk) 09:54, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Wookiepedia

I'M FINE THANKS. HOW ARE YOU? LOL Mandsford (talk) 14:19, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Country music help

I've found that there are 4 country artists I could help on:

But I do have a few questions. First off, what exactly is a "copy edit"? What do I need to do to fix those that are in need of one? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 00:25, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Ha! :) I'm getting there. I just feel terrible that your the only one who cares about country music pages. I love country music, and am passionate about it, but sometimes I just don't know exactly what all to add to articles. Thats when I ask. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 00:33, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Mark L. Walberg not a game show host?

Why did you remove him from the category? 71.72.160.230 (talk) 01:41, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

82.31.95.212

Please comment on Wikipedia_talk:Talk_page_guidelines#Anonymous-IP_address_warning_deletions. Thanks. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 23:35, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Templates

Normal templates like time and date. Also display your edits Dont take this the wrong way, but Im fairly new to Wikipedia. Could you help me format my userpage as it looks like a dumping ground Thanks --Reallikeunreal 17:08, 11 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reallikeunreal (talkcontribs)

Thanks man you are well cool --Reallikeunreal 17:11, 11 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reallikeunreal (talkcontribs)

Better Get To Livin'

Howdy TenPound, thanks for the note. I've added a sentence to the lead discussing the song's reception and chart performance. I wasn't sure about Country Universe, so thanks for resolving that. Kaldari (talk) 21:21, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Also added a sentence about the video to the lead, so that should cover pretty much everything in the article. Kaldari (talk) 00:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Notice of request for deletion of editor TenPoundHammer :)

718smiley.png TenPoundHammer, the editor you are, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that you satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space. Your opinions on yourself are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at User:GlassCobra/Editor for deletion#TenPoundHammer and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit during the discussion but should not remove the nomination (unless you wish not to participate); such removal will not end the deletion discussion (actually it will). Thank you, and have a good sense of humor :). Stwalkerstertalk ] 21:48, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

RE: Review

I usually take a day or so, and expect the review by tomorrow afternoon/night, as right now I have been trying to fix stuff up over here (As noted by the fact that editing has been minimized over the past few days.) The article, from a quick look through, looks very good, and as promised, a full review will be forthcoming tomorrow! Have a nice day! CarpetCrawler (talk) 21:59, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

The article has passed! Please see the talkpage for details. Congratulations and have a nice day! CarpetCrawler (talk) 03:14, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Speedy delist FAs

Hi Ten, regarding your comment on speedy delist of FAs, the list of articles that haven't been reviewed, or are in the process of being reviewed, since 2006, is down to around 40 Wikipedia:Unreviewed featured articles and being whittled down quickly. people must have decided over the last couple of years that normal featured review process would be sufficient, i'm assuming that part of this is the spirit that the editors' work was promoted when inlines weren't required so a big delist would be pretty harsh. cheers, Tom B (talk) 15:59, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Balloon (band) (2nd nomination)

Hi TPH. I've added sources to this article, which might address your concerns at this AfD. Cheers, Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 17:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: MoreStream

That's been happening a lot lately, what should I do? Thanks.--Cssiitcic (talk) 18:25, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!Cssiitcic (talk) 18:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the help.Firio (talk) 19:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Take a look

The other day, I seperated Billy Ray Cyrus discography in different parts. I put singles from 1992-1999 in one, and 2000-present in another. The thing is, I did it because of:

  • Cuts back on endnotes
  • Add extra columns to put songs in

I think it's a great idea, but User:CloversMallRat keeps changing it back. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 21:21, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Creating things

I think I'm done creating pages! No matter what I do, they always get deleted or redirected. Everything that could happen, does happen. So, I'm done doing that because apparently I can't do them. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 23:17, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Joey + Rory is about the only one thats stayed. Other than that, they've all got the boot. No, it hasn't been a year yet, it's only been about 7 months or so. Well I still can't ever get images correctly uploaded and gets on my nerves! EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 23:22, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
How'd I come up with 7? I guess it's been 4. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 23:24, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: TF:ROCKO RfD

I don't see it on the RfD page. Are you sure you nominated it? Besides, it's meant as a shortcut. --Dylan620 Contribs Sign! 03:20, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

WICU

The interest has kind of fizzled out. There doesn't seem to be as much need, as there aren't as many articles in the middle ground - they're either OK already, or too bad off to salvage and in need of deletion. Plus my time on Wikipedia has been reduced thanks to a new job. Let me send some messages to members and see what they think. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 16:02, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Trouble

My toolbar isn't working, you know the one to help install tables, add footnotes, etc. How do I get it to work again, do you know? Dottiewest1fan (talk) 19:59, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I mean the one that's right above the page when you edit it. It includes the Bold icon, insert table icon, and the cite web icon. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 21:46, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I just fixed it by myself, thanks anyways. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 22:23, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

User talk:64.72.89.237

You probably know this already, but that's the IP (for the moment) of the blocked User:JcLiner, an obvious newly-created sockpuppet in the User:KingsOfHearts and User:Fru23 group. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 22:07, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Neutral AfD closure request

Hi TenPoundHammer, could you please take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/JLS (X Factor Group). I feel this qualifies for a speedy closure and the article in question should be redirected to the bands semi-bio at the place specified at the AfD. I'd close it myself, but I feel a neutral user taking a look and performing the closure (if one is warrented) would be better. Cheers! JS (chat) 01:08, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Wha?

OK, we saw you add a sockpuppetry case for a SPA who came back under a different guise and then turned tail and removed it, why? I'm guessing it might have been my mention of the inefficiency of the SSP process but I'd like to hear your reason. treelo radda 17:21, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Heya

Heya, you can delete my page. Didn't know how to delete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MynameisJelly (talkcontribs) 01:37, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Kurt

I actually didn't delete his user page under the auspices of WP:RTV, which is sufficiently vague that there's not always much agreement over what it does and doesn't cover, but under speedy deletion criterion U1. If he requests the deletion of any other page in his user space, I'll do that too, but as yet I don't think he has. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 03:13, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your help; I am still stumbling my way through. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BeebleBrox6 (talkcontribs) 04:25, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Another Album Referencing Question

While assisting with someone asking for album tracklist advice (I believe in passing on knowledge *LOL*), I noticed that another editor for the album in question had quoted every single track time. Is a track time something that should be quoted as a reference, or can that be omitted without removing from the standing of the article? (The one I'm currently helping with is in GA status ATM, and I'm sure they want it to be FA someday.)

Was just curious about that. CycloneGU (talk) 13:31, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

In the interest of keeping the conversation in one place, Cyclone's referring to "Weird Al" Yankovic wherein I cited each of the tracks' lengths. FWIW, I did so because I generally believe in citing everything that could be questioned to preclude any referencing challenges. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 22:05, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

You could add something at the top that says "The track listing is as follows:" followed by a singular reference to Allmusic or some other similar source that verifies the track names and lengths. That would be much simpler. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 22:06, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
True, and thanks, I'll keep that in mind for when we're done discussing the listing's formatting itself. Also, if you're inclined, we're discussing that album's track listing at it's discussion page; you're more than welcome to join in (Talk:"Weird Al" Yankovic (album)#tables v. numbered lists). — pd_THOR | =/\= | 22:12, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

User trouble

I'm sorry for always bugging you, but this user, User:I7114080, seem to think s/he knows everything about everything. If there is a page that the user has edited before, like in the past week, and if I or anyone else changes anything, it'll be always be reverted back to his/her edit. And the thing that aggravated me the most, no edit summary is ever used to say why it's being changed back. For instance, yesterday I formatted Sugarland discography to everything new, and well guess who changed it back with no edit summary...??? Again, sorry for bugging you all the time. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 14:09, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

The thing is, though, everything is denoted at the bottom of the table. "—" denotes the album/single failed to chart, not released, or not certified. And there is "Some peak positions are unknown", or "Canadian chart positions are unknown from 2000-2004". EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 02:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Sorry to butt in. I put in an edit earlier and I'm going to see what happened afterwards right now. I'm interested in whether the user quoted tried to revert MY edit, which restored some useful information you (EnDaLeCoMpLeX) put in while allowing a citation of his you'd removed to stay in. Heading there after typing the tildes here. CycloneGU (talk) 03:37, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism?

I don't see what I recently did that you said was vandalism. Could you please explain what I did wrong so I can avoid making that same mistake?--NumberOneDisturbedFan (talk) 23:10, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Help

When you answered my question about rating, that wasn't really an answer to the question. If you could go back and reread the question, I think you will understand why I am not completely satisfied with my request. (Say hello to Kirk for me!) --timothymh (talk) 23:20, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Persia White

Thx 4 answering. You dont see the rudeness, hmmm.
Did u read/look @ the wiki page. The pics is an additional source, not the sole source. But what may we do as pink & I dont agree on the page. Thx.23:39, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

User trouble

User:EnDaLeCoMpLeX keeps adding dashes. I keep revert his edits because some peak positions are not found or the charts did not exist. Basically he just fill the table with dashes. But he denotes that some positions are not found. Well that means the song did chart, not fail to chart. So there should be no dashes. I don't know what to do with him. I don't think empty boxes are bad?! = = Langdon (talk) 01:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)i7114080

Help (reprise)

I understand about that part, but what I don't get is how at the top of the page it says "A stub-class article from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" or something instead of "An unassessed article from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia." --timothymh (talk) 01:14, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Persia White part deux

Thank you for reverting the article while I was asleep. I'll figure out the best recourse for this user. Pinkadelica Say it... 09:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Template:Tim McGraw and Template:Faith Hill

For artists with as many hit singles as Tim McGraw and Faith Hill, I think it's a good idea to split their templates. Eric444 (talk) 13:14, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Alabama template

Hey... I've seen that you needed help with the template of the band Alabama, so I decided to create it..Hope you don't mind!Olliyeah (talk) 20:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

  • will be done..and I think I'll do the single template too..Olliyeah (talk) 13:15, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

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Have a very merry Christmas, and a great new year! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Regards (and Season's Greetings!) from Stwalkerstertalk ] 21:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

A quick point

10lb, I agree wholeheartedly with your recent prods (and let me know if you ever need help), but consider if you were an editor logging into your account and saw this. That could be a bit upsetting. I know this is probably a bot assist, but it may be worth reviewing the editor notifications and in such instances adding a personalised comment to soften the blow. Eusebeus (talk) 21:57, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

  • Ooops! Never mind. Good for you. Eusebeus (talk) 21:58, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Persia White tattoooo section

Pls weigh in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:70.108.137.50

Right now the disc is on my page but Im should move it to the perisa talk page right? Thx. 70.108.137.50 (talk) 22:21, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

10 lb, The refs are pics,scans,& written text of the article. When u initally intervened u left it is. So now why is that other 1 haveing a hear attack? Thx. 70.108.137.50 (talk) 22:51, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Your closure of Articles_for_deletion/SOLED

Why did you close the discussion after only an hour? Only me and one other had voiced their opinion. No consensus had been reached. Dubidub (talk) 22:33, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

WP:RFD

Nice u deleted ZXCVNMM, now delete zxcvnmm. Wilkos (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 20:00, 17 December 2008 (UTC).

{{helpme}} Something seems messed up with the locator map at my article Protected areas of Kerala. Problem appeared by itself without my making any edits and I can't figure it out. Thank you.Marcus (talk) 19:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for reply. Problem has been here at least 2 days. Marcus (talk) 20:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Rough Diamond (album)

Hi. You seem to have much experience with music articles. I was cleaning up the dab page Rough Diamond, and it seems odd that the 2006 article Rough Diamond (album) doesn't have a corresponding article for their one-album band Rough Diamond (band) (which has notable band members though). What's the usual practise with such articles, like e.g. page moves or doing nothing? – sgeureka tc 20:34, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I knew of A9 (since yesterday), but it was a weird situation. Let's see if the speedy gets accepted. Thanks for the quick reply. – sgeureka tc 20:47, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I do have the mop, but I like to learn by watching what others do so that when I screw up I can point at the precedent and say but they did this too!!! :-) – sgeureka tc 20:58, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, you already had my support in your last two RfAs, and it's silly that people get opposed for not waiting long enough in-between RfAs... – sgeureka tc 21:02, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Little edit please?

Hello! As far as I see you and your otters are currently active and experienced in music-related edits, so I've finally decided to ask someone of your cohort to add a single line to that disambiguation page. Please see this conversation for details. Guy seems quick to revert and I'm unsure how to meet his standarts. Thanks for your time! 78.37.200.40 (talk) 23:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Schools

If you see an article about a school below the secondary level which doesn't seem to be notable, you can merge it or redirect it to the relevant school district (or locality, if there is no school district). In the case of Burger School for Students with Autism, I have commented at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Burger School for Students with Autism that it should be kept since it includes the high school grades. Unless an article about a school is a hoax, it should not be deleted; mergers and redirects are more appropriate. -- Eastmain (talk) 02:39, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

The article is updated to say it is the largest public autism school in America, with a source. Granted, it's a primary source but government web sites don't have incentive to use hyperbole like a corp. site might. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 06:17, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

CFD closings

Hi there, TPH - First I want to let you know that I had to reposition the top close-templates on the two Dec. 17 CFDs that you just closed out. I also mentioned the same thing to you about this one. So please be more careful where you place those templates: they belong immediately under the section heading, not above it.

Also, I think you kind of jumped the gun when you closed out that CFD for Category:The Beatles people after placing a {{Category redirect}} tag on the category page. I'm not saying I necessarily disagree with doing that, but I really think the CFD discussion should be allowed to run its course, to allow other editors to put their two cents in. There is, after all, a reason for the procedural rules that have been developed for CFD. Even though I'm sure that both you and Silk Tork were acting in good faith, the sequence of steps here amounts to an end run around the CFD process. So all in all I think it would be best for you to revert your own close & reopen the discussion. Regards, Cgingold (talk) 05:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow, that has to be the fastest reply I've ever gotten. Listen, I understand that you didn't think there was a problem -- that's why I took the time to explain to you why it really IS a problem. The point is, it seriously undermines the CFD process. If everybody dealt with things that way, it there would be no point in even having CFDs. Who would bother?? Cgingold (talk) 05:21, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas, TenPoundHammer!

If you are either a firm friend of mine, have signed my autograph book, are a member of WPTC, or are someone I simply like or admire:

BTW, what are the names of your otters? --Dylan620 Contribs Sign! 10:56, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

"NAC" closing

I noticed you referenced "NAC" on a closing at MfD recently. I have no problem with the close nor with you closing discussions in general and actually think you ought to be an admin but I am concerned that only regulars would have any idea what "NAC" refers to. If you could either (or both) write out the words or wikilink them (to the guidelineWP:DPR#NAC, not the essay WP:NAC), users would know that they could ask an admin to summarily undo your close rather than taking it to DRV. Thanks.--Doug.(talk contribs) 14:58, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

RE: HELPME

Thanks. I couldn't remember where I saw that info. ⊥m93 talk. 19:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Ten Pound - Thanks for the offer. I am Rae Earl-Johnson on wikipedia but professionally just Rae Earl. Can you change? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SteakTartare (talkcontribs) 21:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I hope I have written this in the right place by the way..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by SteakTartare (talkcontribs) 21:07, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


Many Thanks ten pound! —Preceding unsigned comment added by SteakTartare (talkcontribs) 21:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Are you online?

Are you online? The Rolling Camel (talk) 23:43, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I want to ask, if i will need to replace for example |article= with the articles name or if i just needs add the articles name beside like this: |article=Valery Kobelev? The Rolling Camel (talk) 23:51, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Please, check fast now, I have tried to do a nomination now but what is wrong? The Rolling Camel (talk) 00:03, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
No it is fixed!! i dont know how i did it but i did it now i am happy:) The Rolling Camel (talk) 00:23, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar notice

Please note this new barnstar. Stifle (talk) 12:57, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Is this AfD worthy?

I'm in unknown territory with this one. This would be a terrible article I can imagine, with links to that god awful gossip site. *Shrug* — Realist2 16:53, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christmas Tree (Lady GaGa song)

I'm surprised you AFD'd Christmas Tree (Lady GaGa song) instead of merging and redirecting it. Are you concerned a merger would be undone? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 18:35, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

2nd AfD noms

How can you tell if something has had an AfD nom? Is that something you always check before nominating? ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:31, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

And if I nominate something and it's been nominated before, how do I fix the AfD?ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:41, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
I suspect if I used any kind of automation process I might bring all of Wikipedia to its knees. :) Perhaps after I get a handle on some of the basic stuff I will check Twinkle out. Thanks for the suggestion. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:42, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm concerned it's only a letter away from tinkle. Once renoming something what do you do? How do you fix it? ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Regina Folk Festival

Unusual? Quite made quite a strong case for merging or redirecting. Could you please revisit the AFD and consider altering your stance? (or at least comment on the point he makes?) - Mgm|(talk) 00:25, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Not always

This essay is rarely cited and it survived a userfication discussion.--Ipatrol (talk) 02:40, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

appreciate the quick help ... you have a good holiday Ched Davis (talk) 05:10, 20 December 2008 (UTC) k ... thx again ... kinda figured it would be something easy like that ;) Ched Davis (talk) 05:20, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

100 years ago

You'd be surprised. One of these days, I'll write the article about the charity girls of the 19th and early 20th century, who were known in the slang of the time as "charity cunts". Uncle G (talk) 05:44, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

I just wanted to wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! :) EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 03:12, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry For My Bad Faith

According to a recent accusation, I admit that I have used a second account by the name of NumberOneDisturbedFan, and also used IP addresses for bad faith here. I know this may have given you some trouble, and I would just like to apologize before all of my accounts get permanantly banned. Please forgive me, and I'm sorry for the trouble I have caused. I swear on my life to renounce my ways only for the good faith and leave all the bad faith behind me.--Almax999 (talk) 01:23, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Relatively New To Wikipedia

I have a question about notability guidelines when it comes to articles such as this: Daniel_Louis_Rivas .. This is a prime example of many articles I have come across recently.. can you help me understand how an article such as this one, for a basically unknown actor, should possibly belong in wikipedia rather than in a film database such as IMDB? I would nominate them for deletion myself, if I knew how to, or understood the guidelines enough to know that that was in order. Cheers. (LAmusic3 (talk) 07:36, 21 December 2008 (UTC))

- It looked crazy to me, so am glad to see I am not alone! If I see future articles like that should I just let you know or what is the procedure? Thanks. (LAmusic3 (talk) 00:51, 23 December 2008 (UTC))

DYK for Tim Nichols

Updated DYK query On 22 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tim Nichols, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 18:51, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Content

Could add the content to "She's Not Cryin' Anymore"? I'm no good at that, and I think you do a good job at those. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 20:39, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Santa Clause is skiing in Adelboden.JPG Merry Christmas!
A chiptune medley to annoy Ironholds :D

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TenPoundHammer, here's hoping you're having a wonderful Christmas, and here's also hoping that all your family and friends are well. Lets all hope that the year coming will be a good one! If we've had disputes in the past, I hold no grudges, especially at such a time as this. If you don't know I am, I apologise, feel free to remove this from your page.
Come and say hi, I won't bite, I swear! It could even be good for me, you know - I'm feeling a little down at the moment with all of these snowmen giving me the cold shoulder :(
neur ho ho ho(talk) 00:13, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy holidays

Category:Introductions CFD

There wasn't much point in prolonging that, was there? I probably would have closed it out myself if I hadn't taken part in the discussion. Just one tiny detail you should fix: you stuck the top template below the first element of the CFD proper, but it needs to go right under the section heading. Happy holidays! (whatever you celebrate) Cgingold (talk) 00:52, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

--A NobodyMy talk 02:50, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Hello!

Hello! I was skimming the Recent Changed page and noticed "oddly enough, Michigan has both" and honest to God, I though to myself, wonder if he's talking about Rally's and Checkers? So I clicked on it, and sure enough you were. I then decided to get stalkerish and view your profile page, and I read the first few lines. Well, I too am a 21 year old male from the Great State of Michigan who plays in his church band. I just wanted to shout out a hello in light of this, so hello! Whereabouts in Michigan might you be from? East side, West side, Northern, U.P.? Good Tidings - Navarro (talk) 07:07, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Sara Evans' albums

It seems that user:CloversMallRat disagrees with my revisions of Sara Evans' albums. I designed the albums in the syle of the albums on the discographies of Diamond Rio and John Michael Montgomery. However this user keeps reverting the edits. Can you help me because obviously he won't listen to me. What do you think about it? Dottiewest1fan (talk) 21:01, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

  • I find problems with it because of her specialty albums list... the studio albums are fine. But unlike other artists, she has a lot of special releases that can't support the "detailed" album listing as well. Besides, most country music discographies look much cleaner without the details, because they have fewer charts and they are thus shapen differently... so there's less need. Carrie Underwood discography needs it because she charts in places besides just U.S. and Canada. But there's no need for it on Sara Evans discography. CloversMallRat (talk) 22:24, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
It seems that it might be settled for now. Thank you. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 02:42, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Jewish American actors in television

In regards to the AFD, see Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/JJPennyson. Thank you, MuZemike (talk) 23:03, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Canadian charts

Creating entries for Greg Hanna and Dean Tuftin is on my eventual to do list, although most of Dean Tuftin's peak positions will be missing. And no, Lisa Dames never charted in Canada. Eric444 (talk) 06:08, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

FA

What are your thoughts on getting Billy Ray Cyrus discography a featured artice? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 18:54, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Thats what I meant, my bad. I do agree with you on more sources, but how can you source something that can't be found? How did Diamond Rio discography get by without those? Again, I agree with the main article. It does need some work, and will take a while, but if you and I could round up a few country editors, I think it can be done. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 19:07, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm working on a few bits and pieces of it now. The only thing left to be sourced is the music videos. But, on CMT, it only has maybe 6 or 7 videos last time I looked. And on YouTube, again, not all the videos are there since he left Mercury. I'm really proud of the way it looks, and flows and all. I think it looks great! EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 19:15, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Will do. So, have you looked? :) EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 19:19, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, the music videos are sourced now. But still not all the directors can be found. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 17:00, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Ha! When your right, your right. Do you think it's ready? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 17:22, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Oh shoot, I like the info big. But I guess I fix that. Oh, your not in the same time zone as me. Hmm... EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 17:27, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
I've nominated it, if you wouldn't mind taking a look. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 04:21, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

LeAnn Rimes, Rascal Flatts discographies

I'm so sorry to have to bother you again with my problems. But it seems I have another problem user. However user:I7114080 keeps making a color key for certain discographies. See Rascal Flatts discography for example. I keep telling him not to do it but he keeps doing it. I just made new albums tables for LeAnn Rimes's discography (looks in the style of Sara Evans discography) and he changed it back to the way he did it, saying my idea was not good. However I told him on my edit summary that it is a requirement of discographies. Can you please tell him exactly what I said and that it is a requirement. He's ruining the format of discographies. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 02:46, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: "Various Artists"

"Hope" featured John Berry, Terri Clark, Vince Gill, Faith Hill, Tracy Lawrence, Little Texas, Neal McCoy, Tim McGraw, Lorrie Morgan, Marty Stuart, Travis Tritt, and Trisha Yearwood and it peaked at #57. --Caldorwards4 (talk) 05:56, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

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Hickory Farms

Hi there, I saw your request at WT:OH and started digging. I managed to snap this photo right before eating everything. If you'd like a better picture of the beef stick, which is what the founder started with, I have a better picture of it. I hope my comments on the Talk: page prove useful and I'm trying to figure out how to cite a TV episode. I have an episode of Unwrapped that goes into a brief history of Hickory Farms. §hep¡Talk to me! 22:25, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Wrote down the info for the episode and left it at Talk:Hickory Farms. Hope they're helpful. §hep¡Talk to me! 22:59, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of E. Upton and Sons

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I have nominated E. Upton and Sons, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/E. Upton and Sons (2nd nomination). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. B. Wolterding (talk) 22:01, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Brad

  1. 1 in AUS is Brad and Keith (3 weeks). I have no time know.Langdon (talk) 23:00, 31 December 2008 (UTC)i7114080

Happy New Year!

A cat to ease all of your troubles
Happy New Year!
Hey there, TenPoundHammer! Happy new Gregorian year. All the best for the new year, both towards you and your family and friends too. I know that I am the only person lonely enough to be running this thing as the new year is ushered in, but meh, what are you going to do. I like to keep my templated messages in a satisfactorily melancholy tone. ;)

Congratulations to Coren, Wizardman, Vassyana, Carcharoth, Jayvdb, Casliber, Risker, Roger Davies, Cool Hand Luke and Rlevse, who were all appointed to the Arbitration Committee after the ArbCom elections. I am sure I am but a voice of many when I say I trust the aforementioned users to improve the committee, each in their own way, as listed within their respective election statements. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to update the 2009 article, heh.

Best wishes, neuro(talk) 01:00, 1 January 2009 (UTC)


Happy New Year!

Best To Reply At My Talk Page. Thanks.

Just Stopping by. Yours Truly, M.H.True Romance iS Dead 15:16, 1 January 2009 (UTC) 718smiley.png.

She's So California

Would you happen to know if the Gary Allan single "She's So California", is the same as Adam Gregory released in 2006? I haven't been able to find an audio clip of Gregory's, but I looked on both the album pages, Living Hard, and Adam Gregory, and the songwriter's aren't the same. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 17:02, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Well in the music business, you never know what could happen. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 22:37, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Dear TenPoundHammer,

Wishing you a happy new year, and very best wishes for 2009. Whether we were friends or not in the past year, I hope 2009 will be better for us both.

Kind regards,

Majorly talk 21:18, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Template:The Powerpuff Girls

No problem. Looking at the template's talk wouldn't have helped anyway. The closer of the original discussion forgot to put a link to the discussion on the talk page, I fixed that. I also removed all the redirects from the template, it does look better now. Garion96 (talk) 00:06, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Re:Pinky and the brain

Maybe it does and there's just a delay, I dunno. I still don't see it on WP:GAR. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 01:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Bob Seger discography

Seger's discography could use some help. I'm afraid to do it myself, because I'll mess it all up and not know how to fix it. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 17:07, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello!

Hi! I just noticed that my page regarding Pirates Online was deleted and read the discussion coming from it. I'm totally fine with the deletion and just wanted to clear this up with all users who were nominating it, so maybe if you could spread the word around! First: I didn't know you couldn't have your own personal pages with information, because I had seen other users with the same sorts of things on their personal pages (e.g. Brethren Court, etc.). Second: I wasn't aiming on threatening vandalism tags with everyone – there was a specific person, whose IP and various accounts (accused of sockpuppetry) had been personally harassing me and it was agreed between myself and a few administrators that the more he put my mainpage/talk pages, etc. up for speedy deletion, the more vandalism tags he would be given. Hence, I had posted a notice, specifically for him. I'm sure I should've been more clear about that. That is all, and thanks so much for telling me what I should've been doing, I didn't know I couldn't have my personal page on that. Regards, BlackPearl14[talkies!contribs!] 21:04, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant this one? right here. I just wanted to clear things up with you! I'm actually a pretty good editor, have been on for a while, but wasn't aware is all. BlackPearl14[talkies!contribs!] 21:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Haha, all right. Yeah I've never done that before so it was kind of a new experience ;) Thanks so much, BlackPearl14[talkies!contribs!] 04:05, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your speedy response at [[2]]. What do I do now, sit and wait? Syntacticus (talk) 00:05, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Kmweber's subpages at MfD

Wouldn't be better to merge the recent Kurt Weber's MfDs in only one? I was checking the page when I saw all those MfDs flooding the page xD. Greetings, —macyes: bot 04:33, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Psst, as I said here, your nom overwrote the old MfD. I don't know how to fix it. StarM 22:05, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Messages from urban_dealt

It says source where the edit thing's supposed to be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.56.45 (talk) 23:15, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Which means? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.56.45 (talk) 23:21, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. You've been helpful. I see now that Wikipedia doesn't include half as much crap as many people say, especially if their new article criteria are so tough. --70.48.56.45 (talk) 00:01, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

(Note: All of these edits were made by User:Urban dealt signed out)

Flub!

A year after you started the article, and here I am having finally found it. I have to thank you, because I had been trying to figure out the name of this show for years. I had only vague memories of a couple aliens throwing a birthday party for "Miss Boomdeeyay" - who that was, other than their boss, I couldn't remember. Nor could I remember who they were. Thanks. I've finally found my answer. Pw33n (talk) 09:11, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for you all your edit help

I'm up for nominating you as an admin when you're next ready to go for it. Just let me know at the time.Astral highway (talk) 18:49, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

K50 Dude's Barnstar to YOU!

Original Barnstar.png The Original Barnstar
I see you everywhere and you do great work. You deserve this barnstar for all it! K50 Dude ROCKS! 20:51, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Only 6?

You otter get anotter otter. OK, I'm otter here.
PS - I promise notter do it again, just had to.
...
OK seriously, I enjoyed the otters. Do you really have 6? That a lotter! *drat it just slipped out*.sinneed (talk) 20:55, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

That was a punishing respunse, upun my word. It was otterly awful. Heh.sinneed (talk) 21:01, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't mean to badger you, but I wanted to second Sinneed's comment on noticing you beavering away. It's fur certain that you're doing a good job. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:10, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I hope he doesn't get furious about these puns. Maybe we should stop beaver he gets mad. ;0)~ sinneed (talk) 21:12, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
You guys are totally pwning me in the pun department. That's not ferret all. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 21:23, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
You'll just have to do botter. *blink*sinneed (talk) 21:36, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

This happens a lot to you, doesn't it? Bad otter puns everywhere. treelo radda 01:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

...so...hard...must...not...pun! sinneed (talk) 03:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

OT - otters - OK, no puns, but... an unreasonably large number of years ago, we went to the White River near the Bull Shoals dam. There was a (to me) largish group of otters there, with burrows in a cut bank. I spent HOURS watching them play. One would be "it" and run into the burrows. The others would sit on shore below, and watch for the "it" otter to stick a head out. When it did they would ... well... chitter? Chirp? Whatever it is you call it when Otters "speak", and then it would duck back in, to appear at some other hole. They played this game a lot. When the "it" otter came out, they would roll around and tussle, then either go play some other game (slide down the bank was popular), or another otter would go in. Sometimes they would storm the tunnels and drive out the "it" otter. They were great. sinneed (talk) 03:27, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Valerie Burns

I undid a couple of those speedies. This is one of those frustrating editors that mixes the occasional valid article in with a series of hoaxes.—Kww(talk) 21:20, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Should Adult Swim task force cover anime and off-network programming?

Comments? Please visit this discussion. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 21:21, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

There's a dispute over including the CN project banner on anime pages, because the CN project doesn't cover anime, and the AS taskforce would have the same scope. I'm inviting members of the project to discuss whether the scope should be changed. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 21:29, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

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Every Light in the House

I can't find any sources either, the only Google hits I was getting was the Wikipedia page for the album the song is on. --Caldorwards4 (talk) 01:35, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

1-6-08

I meant when you add a template, it automatically categorizes it. But thanks for the help of categorizing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MHLU (talkcontribs) 17:36, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Michael Flanagan (former Minister)

  • Many thanks for correcting the problem with the AfD, much appreciated. What was the problem out of interest? Paste Talk 18:00, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Never could type! Thanks again. Paste Talk 18:03, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

List O'Malls

I didn't say it's unverifiable, please re-read my comments. It's just not maintainable - the category serves the purpose just fine. And, of course, there is the definitional problem of "malls" which range from the Mall of America type, to strip malls, to "antique malls", to the piece of gov't acreage adjacent to the Lincoln Memorial in Washington DC. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:34, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

You say it's manintainable, I'll take your word for it. If it's contents - other than by some transient vandalism - differ from the category's (which if maintainable, would never really happen) will you consent to its deletion? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:52, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

RfA

Hi! Would you be interested in nominating me for an RfA. I left you a message a couple months ago and since then have gotten involved in vandal-fighting and did some XfD's and GA nominations. I think I'm ready. Would you be interested? The reply you made on my talkpage could be found here here. Thanks!!--Cssiitcic (talk) 22:52, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll be back in April. Sorry for bothering you.--Cssiitcic (talk) 22:58, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

AUS Country

Articles on Australian country artists are definitely lacking, but I wouldn't know where to begin. I'm not familiar with any of the artists that I7114080 added to 2009 in country music. Eric444 (talk) 11:03, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I made a page for The Sunny Cowgirls, its not much, but at least it something. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 17:12, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the link to the Australian country chart. I'll update it every week when I update the Canadian charts (if it hasn't already been done). Eric444 (talk) 12:46, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Otters!

Hello, TenPoundHammer.

I must say, I was greatly amused when, on the "1,000 Things Not to Write Your Article About" page, I read that "TenPoundHammer (and his otters)" had made contributions. I laughed heartily.

I'd like to know, what do you feed your otters to make them happy? ZackTuren (talk) 16:50, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


Heh heh, scales, eh? Interesting. I have two birds, so the feathers sometimes get in the way... ZackTuren (talk) 16:50, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I kind of figured. Not to mention Wikipedia has entire articles on the fictional Wiki-roaming animals. Dragons included. Although I do actually have two birds. Cockatiels. Gotta love 'em. :-P ZackTuren (talk) 16:56, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Pop 100

I've also noticed country songs are charting fairly low on the Hot 100. Taylor is about the only country artist charting on the Pop 100, but I don't exactly consider her country anymore, so it's all good. I agree, I do think it should stay, just because they either can't chart or their just not charting, doesn't mean to remove it. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 22:04, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

John Anderson (musician)

You're going to be the death of me... just so you know, I've never helped expand an article before, so any tips would be helpful. I did some extensive digging for sources of Anderson's earlier years, since that would seem to be more difficult to find verifiability for.

Take a look and let me know what you think. Cheers. --Chasingsol(talk) 23:11, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Australia country

The issue date is every Saturday. New chart come in online every Wednesday at [3]. Langdon (talk) 01:05, 8 January 2009 (UTC)i7114080

Closing TFDs

When closing TFDs, please remember to (1) substitute {{TfD top}} and {{TfD bottom}} and to (2) place {{TfD top}} in the proper location (after the TfDlinks line). Thanks! JPG-GR (talk) 05:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Tigriss again

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Tigriss_(2nd_nomination)

Backstory: I strongly suspect user urbanfunkmaster was Morgan Khan himself. I base this view on the fact that on his edits on articles about himself (Urbanfunkmaster created the article Morgan Khan), he forgot not to repeatedly use first-person plural ('we' did this... 'we' did that...)), and I received a message which indicated that MK had admitted to his use of the username in another forum. As he is Tigriss's promoter and possibly manager, then his POV is up the spout. The two third-party online references quoted are known here in the UK not to be at all objective - especially the entertainment pages of the Daily Mail - they print whatever plugs they are sent.

Article is marketing hype and subject is non-notable IMHO. Accordingly, I have listed the article for nomination again.

By the way - I noticed your impressive SHA hash, and am interested in how the committed identity system works, but I didn't gain much knowledge of the practical application of the system from the links. Centrepull (talk) 11:03, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

And Street Sounds (Record Label) again

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Street_Sounds_(record_label)_(2nd_nomination)
Subject is notable, but the article is hopeless.

  • The contemporary name for the label was generally StreetSounds (one word)
  • There is little of relevance on the page aside from the ridiculously long discography
  • What is on the page is mainly blatant advertising, marketing and promotion, and links to more promotional material
  • Rather than rewrite the article, I have created another [here]

Your thoughts would be appreciated. Centrepull (talk) 13:18, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah.

Thanks for the heads up. imonKSK 21:30, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Second Request: Closing TFDs

When closing TFDs, please remember to (1) substitute {{TfD top}} and {{TfD bottom}} and to (2) place {{TfD top}} in the proper location (after the TfDlinks line). Thanks! JPG-GR (talk) 05:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Cookie!

 Ashbey  Ӝ  02:03, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Seattle Film Critics

I added sources showing coverage and have remarked such at the AfD. Further, User:PC78 and I merged all the pertinent informations from the 14 satellite articles into the one (now sourced) master article. It now seems worthy of Wiki. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 18:52, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

BRC discography...again

Can you format the references using that cite web thing, please? I'm not familiar with that. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 17:09, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, fair enough. I haven't really felt like doing anything large or major for a few days now, myself. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 01:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Emilio

I got your message a while back about improving the article on Emilio. Here are a couple of tidbits that can possibly be added: [4] [5] and [6] The first two links mention that it was his first Latin grammy win, but also say that he won a mainstream grammy in 2002 with another album. The final link just talks about a setback in his recovery, but not sure how to word it in the article if it even needs to be there. Atlantabravz (talk) 18:14, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Subpage deletion

Hello 10 lb (4.5 kg) hammer (and affiliated otters). Thanks for the tip.--Jeffro77 (talk) 00:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fahrenheit (Third Album)

Hello, how are the otters? :) Much as I love WP:HAMMER I don't think it applies to this case, see my comment there. Thanks. the wub "?!" 12:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Help still needed

Hi TenPoundHammer,

Thanks for leaving you message in reply to my requst for Help. I thought that www.openstreetmap.org was one of the Creative Commons licenses Attribution-Share-alike 2.0 Generic licence??? Cutmynoseofftospitemyface (talk) 12:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Aussie pages

Okay, I can try. I'm not to familiar with Australian acts, though. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 22:57, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Blank template for pasting

Done. Orderinchaos 04:55, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

What of this?

(Preamble: if you split this by replying on my talkpage, you will be hurt as I'm forever watching your talkpage and won't miss your reply) I'd like your input on Pinocchio in popular culture, yeah it's another 'in popular culutre' article with a bottomless pit of possible examples and terrible prose but that's not simply what concerns me. What concerns me is just how the maintenance tags happen to predate the creation date of the article by a good few months and were included upon creation. I'm thinking a speedy deletion but nothing in logs and nothing in the AfD archives so what do you think? Recreated "content" which would still get deleted under an AfD? I'm fairly sure I will be putting it up for AfD, just need your filthy deletionst opinion of it. treelo radda 05:50, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Yeah, I'd say just afd it. Most likely the tags that predate the article were the result of someone copy-pasting the tag from elsewhere and forgetting to change the date. I've seen it happen before. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 01:59, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Nah, you do it. I have no real rationale for deletion in my noodle and people expect this of you. treelo radda 02:05, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Didn't figure you were going to nom there. Anyway it seems like a keeper to me which is almost odd but it feels like as if it seems to be inheriting notability from the subject. Huh, you'd figure that because the article was little more than a overgrown cruft section it'd be deletable but no, apparently not. Lesson here, some cruft can be deleted but some can be kept even if it's Wikipedia's Japanese knotweed, sources are so easy to find that people forget to bother and add any old junk. treelo radda 02:18, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Tigriss promo page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Tigriss_(2nd_nomination)

Consensus was speedy delete, same day. Makes one wonder how on earth it survived the first nomination, but your effort was not wasted - it made me aware, so that I could play a part. Thanks for flagging a disgraceful page masquerading as information. Centrepull (talk) 06:41, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Big & Rich

Found some free pictures on Flickr. Nothing great, but here is one of the better ones: [7] If you want to, you can upload something now - or wait a while and I will get around to it eventually. -Secondarywaltz (talk) 20:42, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

OK I'll do it.-Secondarywaltz (talk) 20:46, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
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Dear TenPoundHammer,

Quit adding inappropriate warnings in my mailbox. Don't you realize that you're not an Administrator?!? And may you please stop deleting sorced triva which you claim the triva is "unsoured". It is considerd Page Blanking Vandalism. God bless. 68.34.4.143 (talk) 15:35, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

Regarding Wikipedia_talk:Good_article_reassessment#GA_reassement_that_was_never_finished, do you intend to complete your reassessment of Chris_Crocker_(Internet_celebrity)? I don't mind delisting it if you prefer. Geometry guy 15:03, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

After looking at the article more closely, I decided to delist it anyway. Apologies if I trod on your toes. Geometry guy 22:46, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

IP stupidness

Okay, so pardon my French, but this IP is pissing me off! On Kevin Rudolf's singles table, apparently s/he thinks that "Let It Rock" has gone "double platinum", but I posted a source from the RIAA database showing "PLATINUM". And the dude said that my source was outdated. I'm pretty sure it's not. Oh, and read his edit summary for the last edit. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 16:56, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

AFD discussion

Previously, you participated in an AFD discussion about the Lists of solo piano pieces article. I have renominated this article and its sub-articles for deletion; please join the discussion if you have time. Thank you. Timneu22 (talk) 16:02, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Archive

I need help archiving again? I can't seem to figure it out...I'm retarded I guess. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 01:28, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Truth redirect

Please note that according to Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(books), "Book titles, like names of other works, are exempt from "lowercase second and subsequent words"." Additionally Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(capitalization) states that words in titles of books are capitalized, except for a few stated parts of speech that do not include pronouns.--Jeffro77 (talk) 13:15, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Archola

Just a short note to say that Archola hasn't been very well and is recovering from brain surgery (lung cancer spread to his brain). Information is from his talk page. I'm sure he'll be back as soon as possible. Kathleen.wright5 09:29, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

RFA nom

I would like to nominate you for RFA (deja vu). Please let me know on my talk page if you want another RFA. Jonathan321 (talk) 01:40, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I need help with...

Wiki codes... making boxes... etc.

-AndSalX-WWECR (talk) 18:38, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Both.

--AndSalX-WWECR (talk) 21:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Country Tracks chart → Hot Country Songs

Copied from User talk:TerriersFan: I think you missed the point of the RFD. "Country Tracks" is misleading since RPM, a Canadian magazine, actually did have a chart called Country Tracks. Therefore, I've retarged the redirect to RPM (magazine). Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 15:45, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Please don't assume that I am not capable of understanding a discussion. Your arguments were considered but did not find acceptance at RFD. I have therefore restored the agreed target. If not happy, the way forward is to take it to WP:DRV. TerriersFan (talk) 17:59, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Mfd re-opened

An Mfd which you participated in has been re-opened. Please see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Khitan (2nd nomination).--Aervanath (talk) 05:49, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

A centralised discussion which may interest you

Hi. You may be interested in a centralised discussion on the subject of "lists of unusual things" to be found here. SP-KP (talk) 17:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Kid Pix article

Hi, I saw you had tagged the Kid Pix article as being written as an advertisement, I was wondering if there was anything specific you wanted improved since it didn't seem too advertisement-y to me. Might there be a general reference page as to how to go about correcting these sorts of article? I tried the page for the advert tag but no luck. Thanks! Banjaloupe (talk) 18:40, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Thoughts

Hi, This was a GA review for one of the Wikipedia:WikiProject AP Biology 2008 articles: Talk:Osteitis fibrosa cystica/GA1. I was contemplating a response to the GA review and scanned the editor/reviewers talk pages. I may be way off here ... but are you perhaps a mentor of sorts? A bit cryptic I guess. But in summary: a) are you familar with the reviewer b) if so is there any reason to question the review itself or show some restraint and/or tact with this individual or c) you have no idea what the hell I'm talking about! --JimmyButler (talk) 01:44, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Ismfofalbum.jpg)

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Hello

You are really nice!Thanks for all the help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikitotalmesser3 (talkcontribs) 08:34, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Main pic

Howdy! I started a topic on Talk:Billy Ray Cyrus about adding a new picture from this year. But as you well know, I'm not the best at that. I did, however, find a great pic on Cyrus' website of him and Miley performing at the Kid's Inagural Events here. Maybe you could help? :) EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 17:14, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Often Stranger Than Fiction

The user has reverted your close of his help request, stating you did not give him an answer. the sock report on him is open now, so he won't be around much longer, but no need to clog helpdesk up, either. ThuranX (talk) 19:02, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: User:Oldpeoplegodumb42

Re your message: So I see. Not very creative on the insults, which adds to my statement about being bored students. I removed the comments from the MfD as there is no place for personal attacks like that. If they continue ranting, they probably are headed for a block. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:36, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Re your message: Oooh.... show's over for him! Roll the credits! -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Courtesy notice

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I support Oldpeoplegodumb42

I have no idea why you dislike this person's page (Oldpeoplegodumb42). It's not harming anyone is it? Besides, if you took the time to find that person's page and read the story then I'm sorry but you have no life. Why do you care so much about what they wrote? At least they didn't write about their life story, now that is a waste of time to read about about. Oldpeoplegodumb1 (talk) 04:40, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

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American Idol Hot 100 singles

I have made some changes to American Idol Hot 100 singles and since you voted Delete in the AfD, I would appreciate you looking at the article and telling me what you think. Aspects (talk) 19:57, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Mr. Skullhead...

...apparently had his own show. Regarding the DVD release, Filip Vukcevic of IGN writes, "Thirteen years later and a droll skit featuring Mr. Skullhead...is still worth a chuckle."[1] Tyler Shainline contends that "Some of the best characters were the ones that never got the chance to be overused, like Mr.Skullhead, a mute skeleton whose clips were narrated by Motel 6 spokesman Tom Bodett..."[2] What these sources demonstrate is that in the first case, the character has longevity or continued relevance to the reviewer. In the second case, the character is described as among "the best" from the series which is a measure of notability. Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 21:13, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Keith Whitley

TPH,

I noticed that you added a "refimprove" and "Citations missing" tag and changed the birth year to 1955.

Then, 1zackman (talk · contribs) came along and changed the year to 1954.

I left 1zackman a note on his talk page that I changed it back to 1955, and left him references.

Now, my contributions so far only involve his death, birth year and full name, and his family.

If you can go to the article and see where more references are needed and maybe adjust your taglettes accordingly it might help in cleaning up that article.

My sources (for BIRTH year; I added 11 sources for the other material):

  • Whitburn, Joel (2006). - The Billboard Book of Top 40 Country Hits. - Second Edition. - New York: Billboard Books. - p.382. - ISBN 9780823082919.
  • Stambler, Irwin, and Grelun Landon (2000). - Country Music: The Encyclopedia‎. - New York: St. Martin's Press. - p.533. - ISBN 9780312264871.
  • Carlin, Richard (2003). - Country Music: A Biographical Dictionary‎. - New York: Routledge - p.427. - ISBN 9780415938020.
  • Larkin, Colin (1995). - The Guinness Encyclopedia of Popular Music‎. - New York: Stockton Press - P.4462. - ISBN 9780851126623.
  • Stanton, Scott (2003). - The Tombstone Tourist: Musicians‎. - New York: Pocket Books. - p.395. - ISBN 9780743463300. — (It has a photo of his marker and the year 1955 is one the marker.)
  • Hicks, Jack. - "Singer Keith Whitley's Memory Alive Through Songs, Love in Home Town". - The Kentucky Post. - September 25, 1991.
  • "Country Music Star Keith Whitley Dead at 33". - Lexington Herald-Leader. - May 10, 1989.
  • Hurst, Jack. - "Whitley's Last Days". - Chicago Tribune. - May 14, 1989.
  • "Alcohol Kills Country Singer Keith Whitley". - United Press International. - (c/o The San Francisco Chronicle). - May 10, 1989.
  • Keith Whitley at Find A Grave — (It has a photo of his marker and the year 1955 is one the marker.)

Thanks,

- 4.240.78.39 (talk) 11:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

LeAnn Rimes

Can you prove that "Till We Ain't Strangers Anymore" is a single? Not From the chart movement. That doesn't tell you anything. Although the song has a video, it doesn't necessary become a single. It only reach #47. It is low. Also some songs stayed on chart really long. Thanks. Langdon (talk) 06:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC)i7114080

"which means it was shipped to radio as a digital single". I don't understand what you meant. I believe that "Digital" means the song is a digital download-able song. That doesn't mean the song automatically become a single. For example, all tracks from Taylor Swift's Fearless album are all download-able.(here) Also, the song could reach #23 on Bubbling Under Hot 100 in July just because it is a download-able song. I still don't see that "Till" song is a single. Langdon (talk) 23:31, 1 February 2009 (UTC)i7114080
You know what, the CD single is not sold in U.S. or Canada, so it is not a prove. Let's say the second article is correct. How do you know that it was an album cut before? There is only one week gap, and I don't think the position before that is unsolicited airplay. Langdon (talk) 23:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)i7114080
You're right. The country positions are all offical. That's what I thought. Thanks!! Langdon (talk) 23:49, 1 February 2009 (UTC)i7114080

AFD redlinks

Something I tend to do is to preview the article with the subst:afd1 macro in it, do the rest of the work, and then do the save. Otherwise, the AFD notice frequently gets stuck as a redlink. I do a lot of null-edits to articles being deleted just to get the redlink to go away, like the one you just created for the MYX charts. You missed one, BTW, so I added it.—Kww(talk) 18:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Rofl

[8], [9]. Taemyr (talk) 20:02, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Full names

You don't ever curse like that on Pulse! lol Hekerui (talk) 23:34, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Just like you, I'm the same here and there :) Hekerui (talk) 23:35, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Email

You have email. NuclearWarfare (Talk) 04:34, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Kid Rock albums

I did what I could, but Allmusic wasn't a lot of help. Eric444 (talk) 16:55, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:HickoryFarms.jpg)

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Warren Hill

Hi, just thought i'd say I have disambiguated Warren Hill to Warren Hill (musician). Warren Hill is also the name of Warren Hill (HM Prison), a prison for male juveniles in Suffolk, England. I have updated all wikilinks to the new Warren Hill (musican) article. Just thought i'd let you know, as you created this artice in the first place. Cheers guv'nor Bleaney (talk) 00:02, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

No content in Category:Shane NIcholson albums

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Veggie Rocks!

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Veggie Rocks!

Please Join! Rowdy the Ant (talk) 17:58, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Shuttin' Detroit Down

Updated DYK query On February 9, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Shuttin' Detroit Down, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Dravecky (talk) 22:57, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Westland Mall

I've only been to that mall a few times in my travels and have never lived in the Burlington area so I have no idea of what was there before McGregor's. --Iowahwyman (talk) 23:58, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Deana Carter

It is notable, I can add the source CloversMallRat (talk) 20:39, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Videos

CMT Canada used to have their entire music video library listed on their website. It's still available through the Internet Archive Wayback Machine. Eric444 (talk) 03:20, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of minor characters in Peanuts

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Your latest AFD nomination. Sorry, I just had to :)

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You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly.

...Press any key to continue

--Ron Ritzman (talk) 04:47, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

AfD for "Back to Tennessee"

Seems like the consesus is to keep the page, so you might wanna close it. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 21:09, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey Hammer, re Cecil Johnson...

...and the request for a speedy, please look at the article again--the version you looked at, which showed up in AfD, was fiction put in there by a vandal. Drmies (talk) 01:52, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

re my copyvio question...

Thanks :) lightspeedchick (talk) 03:40, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

No warm welcomes

I read you're letter on User talk:C.Fred and I thought about it. Is it that you don't like me? Do you remember when I was IP 68.34.4.143? You were deleting triva and you keap accusing me becuse of WP:Triva. Let me know when you tell somebody else about my faults. God bless. Rowdy the Ant (talk) 03:58, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Retail wiki

Nope, the guy/gal who started it came by finally after 6 months absence n I think said they were gonna start workin on it soon.. and 1 other anonymous person added a mall to it, but thats all. You should contribute! =) CloversMallRat (talk) 03:30, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Sure =D (S)he posted the link on Labelscar.com when they got the idea, but few people picked up on it. How do you propose to get more people to it? CloversMallRat (talk) 21:41, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you.

Thank you for fixing that. :) — Aitias // discussion 20:46, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Q's

  1. Why is Adult Comtemporary chart more notable than Mainstream Top 40 and Adult Top 40 charts? They are all pop charts, so what's the biggest reason for keeping the AC chart but nit the other two?
  2. I have recently edited Kings of Leon discography. I have cleaned up, removed a lot of unneeded things, and rearranged. the page after my edits However, User:Kiac keep reverting my edits, and say it is wrong. He listed many mistakes I made in my talk page. The main point is, Kiac insists that the certification and chart positions must be in the same table. He says that we must follow the samples in Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies/style. Do we have to follow? Are my edits okay?
  3. Is acharts.us a reliable source? I think it is. However, it is not original. I use that in Kings of Leon discography to replace about 12 sources because those 12 sources are all covered under acharts.us. Is that okay?

by Langdon (talk) 00:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)i7114080

For #1, you did not tell me why AC is more notable. I have seen that page, and I don't think the reason is good. All those three are pop charts. Also, I think if Adult Top 40 should sometimes be kept, because some songs only charted on that chart. Langdon (talk) 06:47, 18 February 2009 (UTC)i7114080

DYK for Here Comes Goodbye

Updated DYK query On February 18, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Here Comes Goodbye, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Dravecky (talk) 09:21, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Cfd

Very well taken ... full marks for humour (or humor). Occuli (talk) 13:14, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Human_penis_size reply on My Talk Page

I resent your accusations that I would stoop to such a stance, likening me to some troll. I've been a trusted editor (for the most part, no one's perfect) for a couple of years now. And again, if you'll take a closer look at my AfD, I made a point of resolving a middle ground, suggesting a merge with Penis. Not to mention, being bold is sometimes the best way to go and that's exactly what I did. --AmaraielSend Message 19:09, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

I appreciate your apology. I probably should have done merge first, because now trying to do a merge would seem suspicious. Pointy, maybe. But without cause, absolutely not. I'll grant that it may have encyclopaedic material, but It really probably doesn't deserve it's own article. --AmaraielSend Message 19:47, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Dale McBride

I see that that page is create-protected, but here's a site I found with enough info on him to be article-worthy. [10] Daniel Christensen (talk) 20:18, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Lyrics

What's wrong with having a link to the lyrics of a song? Daniel Christensen (talk) 06:38, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

user:Rowdy the Ant

I'm willing to write a lot of it off as n00bism, except for the conduct at the rollback request. I told him that I was declining the request, and his response was not exactly a polite "Okay, what do I do to get the privileges?"

I think the best approach would be to get him a mentor/have somebody adopt him and get him acquainted to policy. I can't make the time commitment, or I'd do it myself - plus he might not be receptive to me after the rollback issue.

I think his heart's in the right place (though I'll disclaim opinion on the non-free images right now); he just needs to be nudged toward the guidelines and gotten on track. —C.Fred (talk) 22:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC) :WHAT?!? ADOPT ME?! Please tell me whats going on here! Rowdy the Ant (talk) 04:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC) Never Mind. Rowdy the Ant (talk) 02:15, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

User:Rjecina

I am sorry if you had difficulty reading my point as I was highly affected emotionally. But please take a look into the matter and track down the user contributions of User:Rjecina. You will see that he/she is violating NPOV policy by not letting one of the competing viewpoints exist on Wikipedia regarding the Pacta Conventa and Hungarian-Croatian relations. He/She does it based on pure nationalistic feeling and abuses his/her admin rights by doing so. He deletes several edits of various Wikipedian Users that attempt to address WP:NPOV#Balance and "do not hide the facts"
See Crotaia, Croatia in the union with Hungary, Pacta Conventa etc and their relevant talk pages, especially for Pacta Conventa.--Bizso (talk) 00:56, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

  • I'm not sure what to say here, but I do know that {{helpme}} was not the right way to go. You've been blocked multiple times for gross incivility, and this just seems like more of the same. The material that Rjecina added looks neutral to me, and I don't see any policies being violated by that user. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 01:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
I haven't been blocked once! There was one instance of incivility when I saw that in this matter one viewpoint is being censored. I wrote that Wikipedia is unreliable!
I have been contributing for 1 month approximately and added an entire section for treaty of trainon and did tons of other edits and not just copy edit, but I mean content edits. So I wouldn't say that I am a vandal.
What is happening here is that this is a highly sensitive issue. It concerns whether the Croatian people were independent for 9 centuries or were part of the Kingdom of Hungary as a province. Understandably, the Croatian people and editors on Wikpedia support the formal view and includ it in every possible article in Wikipedia. However this fact is still disputed among historians today so it is undecided even on academic levels, whether that Croatians were independent or not for 9 centuries. Therefore, what they do is omit the compteting viewpoint and mention the "independent" version everywhere. If someone, like me and other previous users for example user:Torokko, attempt to draw attention to the fact that the validity of the documnet that defined the Hungarian-Croatian relations as "equal" is disputed, the Croatian editors and admins simply remove it and discard it. Even if there are references to relaible, verifiable english sources, they delete them. They are effectively censoring Wikipedia on this matter due to patriotic feelings for their recently independent country. This is what is happening. See the talk page of Croatia/ Congratutalons! and the recent ones--Bizso (talk) 01:17, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I misread something on your talk page and didn't think to check your block log (which for the record is clean). I haven't seen any sourced information being deleted from the article; can you provide a diff? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 01:20, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
[11]Removed sourced references from talk page
[12]Removed even more sourced references from talk page but left other viewpoint there.
[13] Removed reference from the article
[14] Removed all references and in addition replaced unreferenced tag!
[15] Removed tags, reference to the dispute (link and sentence), "Citation needed" tags on biased statements, and additional information
[16] Changes historical facts and removes more precise information (not regarding the dates -1097 or 1102)
[17] Changes historical facts and removes more precise information
Talk:Croatia#Congratulations.21
Talk:Croatia#User:Rjecina
--Bizso (talk) 02:10, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Okay, most of the sources you're using are things like NNDB that aren't reliable for the most part. Furthermore, some of the other changes you made didn't have sources (like the population). This edit in particular changed numbers without a source. I'm sorry, but I still think that the admin is acting properly as you're not properly citing sources, or what you're citing isn't a reliable source. If you have concerns with the sources, take it up with the admin or on the talk page, but I'll tell you right away that NNDB can't be used. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 02:19, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Maybe you need to check interesting discovery of another user which is part of this discussion ? [18]--Rjecina (talk) 02:46, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the enlightenment. Any checkusers around about? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 02:47, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Just my reply to the linked discussionUser:Ivan Štambuk:
Thank you for accusing me again of being someone else. If you admitted that there was some interesting material in the talk page history then why did it have to be removed in the first place? After all, the talk page is for the Discussion of the topic isn't it? And indeed, what was censored had valuable material and sourced reference that was clearly relevant to the topic. The reason I found it is because I noticed that although this matter is dipsuted, it isn't mentioned in the talk page everywhere. So I checked the page history and that proved my doubts right...--Bizso (talk) 03:12, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
In my thinking case is too weak for checkuser. If you look checkuser reports it is possible to see that everybody on talk page is banned (2 users:Washington or Belgrade IP), but in my thinking this is weak case (only 1 talk page)--Rjecina (talk) 03:01, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

[19]In this edit the 1097/1102 is disputed, the 1526 is not. The proper date is 1918. That's why I added a Citation needed template for that, which he deleted[20] (The first period of personal union between Croatia and Hungary ended[citation needed] in 1526)
Also it was him who changed the population, not me!
Are the sources that He uses more reliable? Please take a look at this and look for the sources in the article itself:

  • For the first part, I only readded what had been previously removed. [21] "About the non-existent Kingdom of Croatia"
  • Then I added more references. [22]"Croatia-Slavonia in the Kingdom of Hungary"
  • Then both the readded comments and the sources I provided have been deleted.
Are the sources that He uses and that were left untouched, more reliable tha the ones he has removed?[23] untouched sources under "Hungaro-Croatian reign"

The two competing viewpoints are/were referenced under "About the non-existent Kingdom of Croatia","Croatia-Slavonia in the Kingdom of Hungary" on the one hand and "Hungaro-Croatian reign" on the other. Now, only one of the viewpoints is represented, just like before. --Bizso (talk) 02:54, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Nice to see you Rjecina here! Are you tracking me? :)--Bizso (talk) 02:54, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

After this message and without any other information I must look right place for my defense arguments :)--Rjecina (talk) 03:01, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
  • This Rjecina is actually Barry Marjanovich - earlier well-known as a spammer on google newsgroups.--Indexheavy000 (talk) 22:46, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Kemonomimi AFD

I'd like to tell you that the nominator, TheFarix, has not withdrawn their nomination. I withdrew it so I can look at the situation further. If you are aware of this I'm sorry. ~Itzjustdrama C ? 00:47, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Non-admin closure in RFD

Hiya! :) I realise that very few people hang around RFD but do please be careful when doing a non-admin closure. Your NAC of Food channel --> Food network, as can be seen here screwed up the formating and preventing discussion of Heathens for Progess --> Neopaganism in the United Kingdom. I have fixed it for you as can be seen here. (Don't fret too much, I've screwed up NACs before too! :-) )Cheers! :-) fr33kman -s- 03:37, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

The Untitled Rina Mimoun Pilot (TV series)

For some reason, Hammer time! kept ringing in my head as I was preparing the AfD... and I never cared for the MC's recordings (I'll take the Rick James original every time...). This one's for you. B.Wind (talk) 04:32, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

M.C. Brown Shoes

What happened with M.C. Brown Shoes? It seems that tags were placed for speedy deletion (both on the article and on a contributor's talk page), but no tags were placed for the RfD (not by you, at least), meaning that there is now an open RfD for a non-existent page. Brian Jason Drake 08:48, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Compilation albums

By the way, the "Compilations" section of my profile contains a list of other articles I started for compilation albums. You are welcome to take a look at those to see if they meet requirements. While I am not sure if deletions impact my contributions or whatever, I admit that I started some of those articles before I was aware of notability requirements and references, etc. -Another Believer (talk) 19:56, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Can you just give me some time to work on them to see if they can meet requirements? I promise to follow up with you on this issue. I have no problems with deletions, but I'd like to see if they can be "saved" first. --Another Believer (Talk) 20:12, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Why are Sweetheart 2005: Love Songs and Sounds Eclectic: The Covers Project not notable. They have allmusic entries, and one even have an article on Pitchfork Media. --Another Believer (Talk) 20:13, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Ok. I will see if I can improve them, and I will follow up with you soon. --Another Believer (Talk) 20:21, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Follow up: While I think Sweetheart 2005: Love Songs and Sounds Eclectic: The Covers Project are ok, Acoustic 05 and Lifted: Songs of the Spirit definitely do not meet notability requirements. Feel free to delete them if you see fit. Thanks! --Another Believer (Talk) 00:25, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
I am assuming the files used for cover images will be deleted as well? --Another Believer (Talk) 00:53, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Yeah. Orphaned fairuse images will get found by a bot and eventually deleted. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 00:56, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey

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Album cover

You could be right. I will check the copyright rules again, but I don't have time now as I'm in the middle of a DYK update. Give me a few minutes. Gatoclass (talk) 06:16, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it looks as though you are correct, I have removed the image. Gatoclass (talk) 06:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Might as well, thanks. Gatoclass (talk) 16:54, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

User:91.153.136.16

Hi. Those links struck me as spammy as well. Many of the same pages also have links to nyc-architecture.com. Turns out there are several hundred ELs to this site from English WP. As I wrote to Mentifisto, nyc-architecture appears to be a personal website: the pics are nice and all, and the author appears to be an architect, but the simple fact of being an architect doesn't make you a "recognized authority" -- and ELs to personal webpages are to be avoided unless the author is a "recognized authority". What do you think? --Rrburke(talk) 18:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Chuck Wagon and the Wheels

Okay, I made the page for Chuck Wagon and the Wheels, but it is in desperate need for some TLC. I'm not too familiar with them, actually I've never heard of them at all, but I've talked about them with you before. Care to take a look? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 18:25, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Please

Close the dussusion for Heroes of the Bible. I said delete and it should be deleted. if you were an admin, you'd try to your to delete the dumb page and get it over with. Thanks. Rowdy the Ant (talk) 19:31, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey there

Hey there 10 Pound, how are the otters doing today? I came here today to ask a couple questions. Mostly about AfD stuff. I haven't really tagged anything (other than {{db-author}} for cleaning up my own user space), and since I do run through the new page patrol sometimes, I thought it was time to get edu-ma-kated. I've been reading through some of AfD policy and guideline pages, and my first question is this:

  • When I see {{subst:prod|reason}}, am I right in assuming that the subst: part means to substitute your explination in the part that says reason ... so that it would look like {{prod|Article ABC does not meet policy XYZ}}?

It's not that I want to go delete a bunch of stuff, I'm more a keep and fix kind of guy; but, I have seen some stuff on NPP that makes me say "huh?". The second question (before I head out for a few hours) is:

  • Is there a good starting place (other than wp:afd), that gives a good simplified starting point to this (like WP:SR for editing).

Well, thanks for your time, and tell the otters I said hi. ... Just curious, do you actually own otters in real life? Might sound like a dumb question, but I just had to ask ... lol. — Ched (talk) 19:41, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Unnecessary Deletion of an article

The deletion of Jeopardy! Set Evolution was highly unnecessary, as it appears to have upset some Jeopardy! fans. If anybody is reading this message, please reconstruct Jeopardy! Set Evolution.--Tomballguy (talk) 23:37, 22 February 2009 (UTC)Chris

worth submitting back to AfD?

Sorry to bother you - This article was AfD'd (result: redirect) back in 2008. Another editor has resurrected the piece, but the subject has not proven notability (this is a standard issue with many articles for reality-tv contestants, practically all similar articles end up being redirects to the show). I was curious about your feedback, based on the previous AfD as well as whether you felt the article subject can stand on its own. We're discussing at Talk:Christina Machamer. SpikeJones (talk) 19:50, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Why are links to architecture site considered spam?

I see you've removed links to an architecture site for the General Motors building. The external site appears to be personal and not commercial. Paul (User:Lpgeffen) (talk) 00:15, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

  • Because it's a personal site, and personal sites are generally to be avoided. There's no proof that the site is made by a reputable person; they could just be pulling facts out their @$$ for all we know. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 00:21, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
    • I see that the links are against Wikipedia policy, but not for "spam" exactly. The site is an amateur effort that has some useful (and apparently accurate) resources. Paul (User:Lpgeffen) (talk)
They may be "useful", but still, they don't meet the external links policy. Also, dumping a link on a ton of articles at once is considered spamming, no matter how reputable the site. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 01:11, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Kings of Leon

Can you please review Kings of Leon discography for me? Thank you.

Langdon (talk) 06:01, 24 February 2009 (UTC)i7114080

closing

Hey there 10 pound, how's the otters today? ;). Anyway - if you end up closing this one] - you may need to refactor some of TO's delete edits. New, trying very hard, and doing very well. He's learning quickly, and I'm trying to answer his questions as quick and accurately as I can. (but it's not like I'm a seasoned veteran either) I mentioned it once on the page, and maybe he's just not sure how to change the votes to comments - and I don't want to make him feel he's doing something terrible either. Anyway, just a head's up if you're the one who's going to be closing. — Ched (talk) 01:17, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Automatic edit summaries

Quick question... how are the automatic edit summaries put in? I've seen like reverted edits by ... to last revision by ...', or reverting vandalism....get the jist? I read the page for the AES, but no, didn't work. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 02:11, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

The Autumn Offering

Howdy Hammer - I'm tempted to put The Autumn Offering on the AfD stack (I also stumbled across articles about the band's unnamed demos in prod patrol), but it's likely that you know more about this group than I do. Is this one worth saving, or should it be put on the stack? B.Wind (talk) 06:27, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

  • Many thanks, TPH. I'm not too sure about redirecting the titles for the current "unnamed" demos - I might take them to AfD as I cannot think of an alternative for them. We'll see, I suppose. B.Wind (talk) 06:01, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

If you don't mind....

See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Harout72. Since I'm somewhat involved, an outside admin's opinion is always welcome. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 10:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

You do realize I'm not an admin, right? An obvious oversight, I'm sure, but still, an outsider opinion if you have a chance. My response is surely not going to go over well. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:22, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Son of a Preacher Man

Please, just go ahead and delete that file. It messed up when I put it in. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 19:47, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

The Shoppes At Eastchase

Hi. You know about malls. This seems to me pretty un-notable: I PRODded it, but the PROD has been taken off. Do you think it would survive an AfD? Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:01, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

  • Yes, I did look at Google, but the references all seemed fairly trivial, mostly about things that happened there rather than substantial comment on the mall itself. My question was really about what effective notability standard gets applied to malls these days - if an AfD would bring out a bunch of supporters waving press clippings, then I won't bother. JohnCD (talk) 20:12, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Redlinked AfDs

"I'm the ONLY editor on the whole project who ever notices when a discussion is red linked." Of course you are, Hammer; that's why we're never going to let you leave. If you try, we're going to come and get you and throw you and your otters into the WP oubliette, where we'll make you spend every waking minute looking for redlinked AfD discussion pages. Because, after all, none of us want to do it. :-) Deor (talk) 23:46, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Third Request

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Aerosmith's fifteenth studio album fails WP:HAMMER, nominated for deletion

Hello TenPoundHammer, and your otters. I'm sure you will be glad to hear that I applied your rule in nominating a music album for deletion. Obviously, it fails both WP:CRYSTAL and WP:HAMMER. The entire article is completely unreferenced too, so there is no assertion of notability. If you wish to participate in this AfD, please feel free to.--DisturbedNerd999 00:42, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

your user page

"After my last failed RFA back in August '08, I decided to give myself a full year before running again. Please do nominate me until then."

Please DO nominate me? Is that a kinda Freudian slip thingy?

-)

--  Chzz  ►  12:27, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I've been sitting on that since his last batch of RfA indecision and figured he'd have noticed it by now. I didn't change or tell him as he's a big boy now and can figure that out on his own. treelo radda 12:37, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

About 2009 in country music, and the previous years in country music.

I think that it would be best to add all the top 30 or top 25 songs back onto those pages. I originally said for all top 40 songs to be added on, but i figured that it probably was too many, like Langdon told me, and so i cut back my idea to top 30 or top 25 songs. To me, i think that every top 30 or top 25 song deserves to be on those pages, and deserves to be recognized that way. I figured that since you were the one who said that you decided to cut back all the top 25 songs to top 20 songs when you said that you had suspicions of the Australian chart, i figured that you could give me some ideas about why or why not add all the top 25 or top 30 songs onto the years in country music pages. - (Ryanbstevens (talk) 17:48, 3 March 2009 (UTC))

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need some advice on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tige Boats

I listed this article for AFD about a week ago, and I have been having a conversation via talk pages with the author about how the article can meet WP:N, and WP:V. He mentioned the idea that there might be print sources that would satisfy WP:V but never put them up, and he messaged me a few days ago asking what he could do to get the article in compliance. The problem is that without those print sources I'm not sure anything can be done at the present time - none of the sources he listed were WP:RS - mostly press releases, trivial mentions, and directory entries. I couldn't find anything through google. The article has been deleted for spam and copyright violations, and beyond the removal of infringing content the article hasn't changed much - it still looks like a catalog and company prospectus. I would love your thoughts on the article or the AFD discussion. Cheers... Mister Senseless (Speak - Contributions) 02:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

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Your request at the above page was not processed until now because it was added using the "new section" link rather than being placed in the "sites to unblock" section. Please place new requests in that section in future. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 12:20, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Paul Harvey

I'm not certain how you cite a detail like this, but Gil Gross said on the air (not sure which day or which broadcast) that Mr. Harvey considered advertising to be a form of news and he could only advertise products he believed in.

I'm sure this information (mentioned by Gross, not the proof he said it, which is all I asserted) is out there somewhere, though I had other things to do besides search for it. Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

There is a web site broadcast, and I think that's the best we can do. I can't remember which one, though, and I don't have sound here.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:13, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

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Stuff your ennui in a sack buster, I've got stuff to ask...

Now then, remember Rowdy the Ant (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)? Slightly asinine, prone to screwups at an alarming rate and slightly rude to boot? Yeah well I hope you haven't been keeping an eye on his talkpage because it's sad. Sad that he's still there and editing his talkpage but sadder an admin seems to want to keep him around though he has little aptitude to behave and that might be because of his age which nobody can get around. I think his talkpage should be blocked to prevent him editing but he's not being loud-mouthed or disruptive, just doing odd things like feeling self-pity and wanting an unblock even though nothing will change should it be granted. No, I know WP:COMPETENCE isn't more than an essay but I feel that in this case RTA fails it. Strongly. Allowing him to go fart around on his talkpage is like a partial ban where all spaces but his own personal plantbox are forbidden and I just don't like it especially when the only reason he has to use his talkpage is to request an unblock which he doesn't want to do using a {{unblock}} and I don't think any reason he can make will be good enough. Maybe I should disengage but I don't want to find him continuing the very reasons he got blocked in a few weeks time. treelo radda 00:33, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Reply (The Proof)

Proof that a user was banned for editing Barack Obama's article (more info you have already read on my talk page), at http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=91114 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vistro (talkcontribs) 20:55, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the deletion help! Your reply was super fast. I wasn't sure about where to put the help tag, either; I was worried if I put it at the bottom, nobody would see it. Shows was Sarwicked knows. Sarwicked (talk) 22:02, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Troyster87

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Enchirito AFD

DHowell just added some references. Check it out. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 16:39, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday Bobby.

I have noticed that someone keeps scewing with the jypsi page. Has chamged Cowboy Jack Clements name twice. It now reads Cowboys "Bebop" Whoever keeps changing it should be nailed for it. "Clements" is correct.. not "Bebop! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.206.191.162 (talk) 21:51, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Wellworths (GB), it's something about retail and deletion so I thought of you...

Got a new article, I'm a bit edgy about nominating it for deletion as it has only existed for less than twelve hours now but I question its notability and if it has any. Basically a victim of recentism in the wake of the collapse of Woolworths here in the UK, this single branch store has one call to notability in it being ran in a former Woolworths location by its manager and replicating much of what the former store sold. For me, it's just one store replicating a failed business model and has little going for it besides being a nice human interest story for a local paper in terms of notability. You could argue it's the first of such a store and Wellworths could expand and become notable but right now, it simply isn't.

So, what would you do if this was something occurring in your neck of the woods? treelo radda 20:02, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Just as an FYI, it does fulfil GNG but seems to be a WP:BLP1E but not in a BLP sense, just a shoddy nostalgia clusterfuck way. Probably should have said before you went and nom'd, expect a snow close for this first shot as recentisms rarely seem to acknowledge the future and their place in it should they even have one. treelo radda 20:24, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Someone has been altering the page and has removed the Afd block. Has the matter been resolved?82.29.215.181 (talk) 14:15, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

The The

That's better indeed. Difficult these one man bands. :) Garion96 (talk) 20:33, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

Really appreciate the help!  :D Lychosis T/C 20:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Alan Jackson album

I figured that would happen. I own all the songs off this album not to mention it was listed on ebay several times but it's too late for that. One of these days TenPundHammer!:) (Publichall (talk) 03:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC))

Alabama (band)

I'll see if I can help with this a little if you'd like? I don't have a ton of experience yet, but I'm willing to try. ;) — Ched ~ (yes?)/© 21:41, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Paul Harvey

It is only your opinion that the source isn't reliable. Doug Limerick and Gil Gross are not on the air, and my revision is going back. You can't get more reliable than not hearing them at all.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 13:26, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Now that I look at the source again, it doesn't look right as a definite source. But my station isn't airing Limerick or Gross. Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 13:34, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

There IS an apparently reliable source that you have to pay for. Someone found it when it was new and free. I deleted it from whichever article when it didn't work and used the other one you didn't like. But it quoted the "reliable" source.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 13:43, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Country music plight

Hi otters — I've long heard of your trying to hold up Wikipedia:WikiProject Country Music by yourself, and observing the state of desperation within its articles. I know what it's like to be in a wikiproject that doesn't seem to be moving sometimes. ;) So I've decided to go ahead and help with the project; try to revive it some, and most of all, improving country articles when I have time. I've been involved with music articles ever since I joined Wikipedia, so my general experience should probably lend some asset to the project. :) One question, though: is there any participants list? Even if there's not, I'm considering myself as a member of the project now. Cheers, JamieS93 15:16, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

With a topic I'm less familiar with, I'll unfortunately be more of a gnome than anything else at first (expanding isn't so easy when you're not familiar with a topic's common reference websites). But from how I look at it, even if an article is lacking some information, at least we can try to make that present amount of information look good, referenced, staying neutral and flowing well. What are some of the sources that you commonly use (besides the major ones like Billboard and Rolling Stone)? JamieS93 15:33, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Okay, sounds good. Thx, JamieS93 15:38, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

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Help Request

Would you be so kind to look at William Carpenter, Providence Rhode Island and make some suggestions? I really could use your input.

John R. Carpenter Jrcrin001 (talk) 18:27, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

early edits

Hey there Mr. Ten pound. How you doin? I started doing a little at Alabama (band), you want to check me and make sure I'm headed in the right direction? I know nobody owns articles and all, but you have a better handle on what the article should be, as well as better knowledge on policy, proceedure, and layout. Let me know, and I'll keep working on it if I'm going in the right direction. Lot's of redundant info I know (at this point), but I can clean that up as I go along. Hope the otters are doing well. ;) — Ched ~ (yes?)/© 01:59, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


William Carpenter

Thank you for your positive comments. I went through and redid the sources. Please review the sources.

William was an important member of the Providence community, the first of his surname to make permanent residence in America.

Anything else you can help me with before the article gets deleted?

John R. Carpenter Jrcrin001 (talk) 02:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!

If you have time, please show me how you did it! Philologia (talk) 23:52, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

It's dead, Jim

In case you missed it, I nuked that article. It's ridiculous that it stuck around since May of last year with no references... Pretty solid hoax, even the Myspace page is hoaxed up. I'll leave the images for that deletion process, though, as I still don't know my way around the image rules and don't want to do something wrong there... Thanks for the heads-up! Tony Fox (arf!) 03:31, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Epileptic Gaming (2nd nomination)

Hi. I've seen an "anti-canvassing" banner used on some AFDs, but I can't find the right template for it. If you remember, could you put it up? The canvassing is at [24], or more specifically on page 3. Thanks! VF10 (talk) 18:23, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Happy April Fools!

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Hey, it's finally the day...! Some of you have been really anticipating it, and helping Wikipedia by preparing nonsense for the Main Page or doing other silly stuff. It's only 1 day out of 365, so us overstressed wikiholics should use the day to look at things a tad differently. ;) Have fun! JamieS93 02:02, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

iTunes-cruft

I haven't the energy so I thought I'd point out Live from London (iTunes) to you. TheJazzDalek (talk) 16:10, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Regarding Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Jimbo Wales

I know it is April Fools and all, but in one of your edits there you signed as an editor who has left the project and did so by invoking his right to vanish (hence why I am not mentioning his name as I am sure you know who I am referring to). As such, I am not sure it is in the best of taste to bring him up as a pretend editor as a joke; it actually kind of borders on a personal attack to him, as who knows if he would find that amusing given how he left and we really shouldn't dig at editors who aren't even around to react. I don't mean to be a kill joy, but it just doesn't feel right. Thanks. Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 04:20, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Earth (2nd nomination) if you're going to miss every H2G2 reference made then I just don't know... may the Ravenous Bugblattter Beast of Traal eat you. treelo the cake is a lie 09:51, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
So sue me, I've never read Hitchhiker's Guide. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 15:07, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
You know how this could go Robert, don't make us force you to do something you might later thank us for. treelo the cake is a lie 15:10, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
The cake is a lie. Is this the same delicious cake that I must eat? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 15:17, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
It's not a reference to that, it's a meme. Oh yes. treelo the cake is a lie 15:32, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
I hope she made lotsa spaghetti! Oh wait, wrong meme. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 15:33, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Death to you, repeating a non-meme meme like that. treelo the cake is a lie 15:44, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Just be glad I'm not a Simpsons fan, otherwise I'd bring up the "'Milhouse is not a meme' is a meme is not a meme is not a meme is a meme is Numberwang is Treelo/Yngvarr's squeedly spooch" (that was fun to say). Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 17:19, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Then who was phone? That I could live with but no YouTube Poop "memes", they're disgusting putrid meatcows. treelo the cake is a lie 18:01, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, that's all I got. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 18:03, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

(merp) Really? Good... I've called Yng over, he'll laugh and point at you like in a bad dream where you have no pants at a big exam. treelo squeedly spooch 18:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Insolent otter boy! Yngvarr (t) (c) 18:51, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

proposed deletion Ronald L. Conte Jr.

Thanks for your note. I replied at User_talk:Chonak#Ronald_L._Conte_Jr.. Chonak (talk) 20:24, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

  • Is it possible to clean up this process and start over? We seem to be tripping over each other. I found the "AfD in 3 steps" page, and will probably be able to follow that successfully. Chonak (talk) 20:33, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Ronald Conte

Hello,

I saw that you nominated this for deletion. I would like to keep it for perhaps 6 more months if that is OK.

The reason why is that I believe he has done quite a bit of work gathering otherwise devout Catholics like myself, and using a combination of smooth talk and bullying threats, he has lead many astray.

He has made some bold predictions that are going to be proven untrue in the next two weeks. I mentioned them with the additonal info I added, but after his date comes and goes, I want to add a lot more information, backed up with links to prove them.

I want anyone else that comes across this man to have the history behind his predictions/prophecies so that they won't be led down the wrong path like I was for a while.

This is the only wikipedia contribution I have done, so I don't know if I am doing this right. I just want to show that the emporer truly has no clothes.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Callingbs (talkcontribs) 00:19, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Earth AFD

You closed it? You are NO fun! :P~ Umbralcorax (talk) 03:53, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

  • yeah, i know it needed to be closed, i ws just saying it in an "oh darnit" kind of way, not really serious. I have to admit though, as far as jokes went, it was pretty amusing. Umbralcorax (talk) 16:14, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

TenPoundHammer's Law

I just wanted to say that I'm delighted to cite your Law after having discovered it recently. I hope to use it more in the future and will be looking for opportunities to extend its reach. Thanks for thinking of it! Accounting4Taste:talk 04:20, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes! Wait a minute... No.

Glad someone recognized it! :D Years later and I still call my GPS the "guidey chippy thing." -Sketchmoose (talk) 16:59, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Rehoboth Carpenter family

Can you please review the history of Rehoboth Carpenter family, I am afraid that "Iwannafish" is starting an edit war. Over many months GeneZub has tried to get "Iwannafish" to work together to create a better article. I have seen the dozen plus emails sent to the person behind Iwannafish. He is known in Carpenter Family circles for over 10 years. I have emailed him and asked him to communicate and not get stuborn. I have encouraged him to use the discussion page. While, he can provide good material, he has his moments.

Maybe you can write or say something to stop the edit war?

I would really appreciate any help.

John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA Jrcrin001 (talk) 05:33, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

@n1m0$!ty speedy deletion

Hi there. Of course you can delete it at WP:AFD before the 5 days are up. However, I think it's wrong (bad form) to tag it for both at the same time. If you tag it for speedy at the same time, there is a high risk that an admin who has not read the discussion might delete it, while the discussion back at AfD goes on. If someone removes the speedy tag, then one should send it to ProD or Afd. Once at AfD, you can delete it in less then 5 days - in effect a speedy deletion. In fact, I've done so myself - and I label all of them at User:Bearian/Deletions. I have no idea if this article is a hoax or not. It appears not to be notable in any case per WP:BAND. Bearian (talk) 00:17, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

P.S. It can be verified that it exists - see a Google Search. So much cruft ended up on WP over the past 2 days that it's hard to tell what's real on April Fools Day. Bearian (talk) 00:41, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
I see what you mean, but I didn't see that part of the hoax. ProD can the better solution when WP:BLP is not invoelved - it's likely to be a non-controversial deletion. I try to assume you know what you're talking about from your reputation. Bearian (talk) 15:50, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Readding removed speedy tags.

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Category:Actors-singers Singers-actors

Hello TenPoundHammer. I just created a category for singers who have become actors, and for actors who have become singers. I just need your opinion on this idea, and to see if this was a good idea to you or not. I have created some categories, and on this one, I just thought that I should let you know about it, and for you to give me any ideas about if this category was a good idea or not. I just thought that it was a good idea because there are plenty of celebrities who are both singers and actors, and I just need your opinion on this kind of category. Ryanbstevens (talk) 03:07, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Lionel Cartwright

I got the musicians and writers on the article but the cassette I own doesn't list the lengths. --Caldorwards4 (talk) 20:33, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

G11 for an deletion request?

Hi - I'm fairly new at this and proposed an article for deletion here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2009_April_6 that was deleted, but the deletion log included a note from you about G11 as the AfD went in. Could you explain that, please? Alice (talk) 00:12, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Alice (talk) 00:39, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Till We Ain't Strangers Anymore

Seemed you were mad keen on a delete, I got no probs with a redirect but only because there's not one reliable review out there, if there was one I'd still be saying keep. It doesn't need that hammer of yours every time :D Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 00:38, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

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Toby Keith article

You might want to take a look at the Keith article. Some editors are adding contentious material about a disagreement between Keith and Kris Kristofferson. Even their source (the not too neutral Huffington Post) says that Kristofferson doesn't recall the incident happening. That sounds like a rumor to me, which doesn't belong in BLP articles. Niteshift36 (talk) 23:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Re:Dakota Moon

T40 Mainstream is a component chart but Adult Top 40 is not, so far as I can tell, and we do include it in articles (e.g., Hot Adult Top 40 Tracks number-one hits of 2008). I'm going to revert, and if you feel real strongly about removing the mainstream placement, I won't stop you again. Chubbles (talk) 13:06, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't know where that fellow has gotten his information. it's not clear to me that the Adult Top 40 is, in fact, a component chart; it is a rather unique market indicator, and in any case, that rubric should be amended to allow for its inclusion on this chart where a song did not chart anywhere else (not the case here, but it should be done in theory). But that whole page you linked me to is trouble with a capital T. He talks about 'notability' of chart data, which is indicative of the massive scope creep of the idea of notability, which is supposed to determine what articles are allowed, and not what components of the article are allowed. I disagree with this usage of the term 'notability'. He discounts the use of the Dance Maxi-Singles chart based on current sales! Obviously he didn't live through the disco era, when this chart was a gold standard. And the fact that he disallows the ringtone charts based on "Donkey Kong, 'nuff said" - well, suffice it to say not enough said for me. That's information that's entirely germane to include in the music section of the Donkey Kong article, for instance; the enduring popularity of a decades-old video game song is of encyclopedic interest.
I really don't want to talk policy. I hate it. I treat as wasted any time I spend arguing with people about Wikipedia's policies; I have no real shot at changing the policies or people's minds, so I don't try. All I'm doing is trying to prevent the erosion of useful and encyclopedic information in an article I created. So please, just treat it carefully, that's all I ask. Chubbles (talk) 18:54, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Rehoboth Carpenter family

Thanks for intervening. But don't expect any cooperation from Iwanafish. Please see "Clarification" section on Rehoboth Carpenter family discussion page.GeneZub (talk) 04:54, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

ITunes originals AfD

I closed the AfD as delete, and have already had one talkpage response pointing out that the sub-articles were not tagged with the AfD banner, which I hadn't realise when I closed it. Whilst I believe the closure was correct, if the AfD is taken to DRV I am sure this omission will count against such a result, as many editors will have been denied a chance to comment. Black Kite 17:46, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi!

Your name is mentioned here - just thought I'd let you know! Cheers, Majorly talk 02:06, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Happy Easter!

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On behalf of the Kindness campaign, I just wanted to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Happy Easter! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 08:03, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

My Shiralee

Hi TPH. Quick question as you're one of the most music focused editors I know. When/if you have a moment, can you have a look see at My Shiralee? I declined the speedy because context was easy enough byt I have no idea how to determine album notability. Thanks! StarM 03:55, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the eyes and the info. Glad to know it's probably notable. I'll leave it for someone more familiar. Happy Easter StarM 01:09, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Enjoy Your Day

Happy TenPoundHammer Day! I've watched your contribs ever since I first saw you and I must say that I am impressed with your work regarding music articles and even AfD. I'll be glad to support you at your next RfA in August (or whenever you decide to run again).

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Here's a barnstar cake in honor of TenPoundHammer day. Enjoy your very own Wikipedia day!

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Happy TenPoundHammer's Day!

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And a present for each of your otters. :) --Dylan620 Wishes you a Happy Easter! 00:41, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

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--Dylan620 Wishes you a Happy Easter! 00:41, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Huh, hell is now somewhat temperate apparently. Who did you pay off to get a day? treelo radda 16:15, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
It's called Easter. My otters went off to snork up Jelly Bellys and chocolate bunnies before having Easter dinner (ham and mashed potatoes for me, clams for them). Of course, they ate Dylan's gifts too. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Many ottersOne hammerHELP) 20:12, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Well, yeah, I'm sure you guys did (I don't get the relevance really) but still, who did you pay off? Remember how unrepentant otter loving deletionists don't get official days of niceness? Even made a userbox to explain that. Next you'll tell me you'll be given the bit by leafdropping season. treelo radda 00:31, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Apparently not everyone thinks I'm a jerk. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Many ottersOne hammerHELP) 00:58, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
I don't think you're a jerk, an incompetent chef's apprentice sure but not a jerk. treelo radda 01:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

western flyer article

Hey Bobby

My name is Chris Marion. First, i want to thank you for your efforts on the Western Flyer article as well as my own personal entry. Since i will always be the first to scoff at the question of my own significance in the grand scheme of music history, i will overlook your recommendation for the deletion of my personal article...

I realize that your efforts are voluntary and even more admirable under those circumstances. You seem to have a genuine interest in music and making factual information available to masses.

The other reason for my note is to ask you to stop changing the Western Flyer article to show Texas as the state the band was started in. Danny Myrick and I started the band right here in Nashville, TN in 90's. I see that you've changed this back to Texas citing Joel Whitburn's 2004 book concerning top 40 hits. Joel's information is wrong and I have no idea where or why he would have obtained the Texas misquote. The only press or promotional information concerning our founding detailed the location as TN. We both had been living in TN for a few years at the point we started the band.

I realize that this is a trivial detail in the bigger picture. In the same sense, it is a detail that those of us involved in founding WF care to have represented correctly in wikipedia regardless of Whitburn's mistake. His information concerning the band is most likely page filler since we had a top 40 song listed on the page and i doubt that he did any more than casual reseach in the matter.

While it's obviously helpful to include citations in wiki articles, i would lean toward omitting links to incorrect information.

If you play piano and admit to being a church keyboardist, you must be a pretty decent guy. I do the same myself when i am not on the road. Thanks for your understanding on this point and again for your contributions to the articles concerning projects i am involved in.

chris —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lrbchris (talkcontribs) 15:28, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

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She's So California

I wanted you to know that this article started out as an article for Gary Allan's version of "She's So California", which was a #24 hit, where i originally wouldn't have created it, but i found a source for it, and so i just went ahead and created the article. Despite the source, it was redirected by another user (because it was a low-charter i suppose). Then another user turned it into a disambugation page. Anyway, i reverted the article back to the way it was when it was first created, and before it was redirected to Living Hard. I just need your opinion on the action of reverting the "She's So California" article. Thank you. Ryanbstevens (talk) 22:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Tammy Rogers

Updated DYK query On April 15, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tammy Rogers, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Help Request

Hello TenPound Hammer,

Please check out City of London School is there a TOC table in the middle of the article? I can not see it with my browser. But others say they can see it. Any ideas how to move it?

Thanks in advance.

John R. Carpenter Jrcrin001 (talk) 03:41, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

What You Don't Know (John Randall album)

Noted. I picked up the date linking thing from other articles. I was trying to conform with them. whatever! Publichall (talk) 23:58, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Giant Records

Please don't move pages without first asking for a consensus, preferably at WP:RM. "Giant/Warner Bros. Records" goes against naming conventions, as the label's true name was indeed "Giant Records". Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Many otters • One hammer • HELP) 03:56, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

The true name of the label wasn't "Giant Records (Warner Bros. subsidiary label)" either. I also don't remember there being a consensus to give the article that name. Despite how the article is titled, the labels legal ("true") name "Giant Records" is plainly stated inside. —The Real One Returns 04:23, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of categories.

Thanks for the note on my page. Category deletion policy says "See WP:CSD. Categories that are patently nonsensical, vandalistic, test pages, substantially identical recreations of earlier deleted content, or requested for deletion by their creator and sole contributor can be deleted immediately." Your reference to G8 is correct, but applies to articles, not categories. At least that is my understanding. It's not as if I haven't done shedloads wrong according to WP policy, and, really no harm has been done to anything this time. FWIW, last time I speedied an article for being badly written unreferenced spam I got rapped over the knuckles for not notifying King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table or some other individuals. LOL. Take it easy, you are doing a great job. --Richhoncho (talk) 07:13, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

CSD Question

Quick policy question for you, the Andy Nees article is obviously a hoax (you just tagged it as such). It was originally tagged db-empty [25] which was declined [26].

Since it wasn't empty (but obviously fabricated), I nominated it as db-bio [27], which was then speedily declined [28] as "already been declined, suggest AfD."

From there I PROD'ed it (removed by author) and sent it to AfD, but should I just have returned to the article and put the db-hoax up, in spite of the fact the second CSD attempt was ignored?

Just asking for future reference, so I'll fully understand the policy. Thanks! Dayewalker (talk) 21:17, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Gracias, I appreciate it. When I tagged it as a db-bio, he hadn't added the obviously fabricated details. Thanks! Dayewalker (talk) 21:21, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brenden Foster (4th nomination)

  • ()*&(%^%$*( I was just finishing up an eloquent, well-argued note for any admin to close it quickly, and you already did it. Listen, I also asked for any passing VIP to apply Rollback to the Brenden Foster article and restore it to the condition before that editor started messing with it. Can you do that? or find someone who can? I put some effort into it the last time around. Also, I left a vandal-3 warning on the editor's talk page; are sterner measures necessary? Thanks for the snowy keep, Drmies (talk) 17:46, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
    • Hey Hammer, please check the AfD again--editor felt free to re-open it and restore the AfD template to the article, and the 'improvements' they made to the article. I undid those changes. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:51, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
      • Thanks. Drmies (talk) 18:54, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Editor has reverted three times, [29], [30], [31]. I've reverted that twice and don't wish to fall afoul of WP:3RR; I've left them a warning. Editor has also twice reverted your closure of the AfD--I can't easily undo that, because of intermediate edits. Drmies (talk) 19:02, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Hey TPH, this AfD came up here in a discussion of non-admin-closures. Not as a positive or negative commentary on how you personally handled it, but just as an illustration of some difficulties with the process (like how NACs get reopened). Just letting you know as a courtesy. Townlake (talk) 16:38, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

'Removing backlinks to Bioptics because "red link"; using TW'

Please stop removing redlinks willy-nilly. They should only be removed if they link to articles that are unlikely to ever be written (or which if written would not be likely to survive AfD). Redlinks to topics about which a good article can plausibly be written actually encourage article creation; they are valuable to Wikipedian efforts. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 05:19, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I removed that particular red link because I noticed it only had one incoming link, and the only other mention of the term at all on Wikipedia is in this article. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Many ottersOne hammerHELP) 18:01, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
I don't see how that's really relevant. Even a very cursory reading of the off-WP literature on albinism shows that bioptics are real, important to people with albinism, and (in WP terms) both notable and sourceable. Someone will eventually write the article. I've thought of doing it myself, but have had too many other things on my plate. A piece of very specialized equipment like that isn't likely to ever be linked to from more than a handful of highly relevant articles. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 07:24, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
PS: The term as used at the Zaldivar article is clearly something different, a surgical vision correction technique. So, there'll need to be disambiguation. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 07:32, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
I've just created the DAB and both articles as sourced stubs. I honestly don't think I should have had to go to that much trouble to prevent deletion of redlinks that obviously should remain, as extremely likely targets of article creation. That being the original point of my message here. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 08:51, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Related behaviorial dispute

I just now noticed your reflexive, flippant, and falsely justified re-revert at Albinism. Your edit summary incredibly claimed "There only seems to be one scientist/whatever who supports bioptics. I've checked, there're NO SOURCES about whatever the heck they are." This is absurd on several levels.

  1. After an edit of yours has been challenged on your talk page by another established editor, you should work to resolve that dispute rather than just editwar/revertwar over the matter.
  2. The article on the doctor you mentioned already cited sources.
  3. If you'd read the plain wording of that stub and its sources, you would've seen that the claim that he is the only supporter of the procedure is nonsensical; he was simply its originator, and the procedure is increasingly popular according to a reliable medical source.
  4. It is glaringly obvious from the text at that bio and at the albinism article that the surgical procedure in question cannot by definition be the same thing as a pair of extreme-magnification glasses. Your edit summary's justification, echoed in the thread above, simply isn't applicable at all, as the doctor and his "bioptics" had nothing to do with the albinism article and your deletion edits in it.
  5. You cannot possibly have "checked" in any meaningful way, since it took me less than five seconds at Google to find multiple sources (I only bothered citing two of them, but there are plenty more) for the device and its relationship to albinism in particular.
  6. So, finally, your claim that "there're NO SOURCES about whatever the heck they are" is patently false.

Please be less judgemental about subjects you do not happen to be knowledgeable about, clearly don't care about given your dismissive "whatever the heck" language, and are unwilling to do any research on at all. No incivility is intended; this is constructive criticism, even if a rather large amount of it. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 09:15, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey

I came across you browsing AfD and just thought I'd drop you a line. Actually, I thought, since you have such an awesome username, I'd check your credentials (yes, I'm nosy like that and yes, the are VERY impressive)! I also read your userpage- I just do that, mainly in the vain hope that somebody might read mine, even if it is mainly for my own reference! I was wondering how I could help with your country music drive. I'm not an expert, but I am a fan and there's always google- the second most useful thing on the web- and I've plenty of time to spare and I'm always happy to help out a fellow wikipedian, so drop me a line and I'll see what I can do. Also, having read your userpage and checked your credentials, I was wondering why your RfAs all went sour? Kind regards, HJ Mitchell (talk) 17:14, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

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Make It Home

You and others have taught me well that some singles aren't really notable, but are some albums (such as Make It Home by Dan Seals) not notable enough to have an article either? Ryanbstevens (talk) 20:23, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Make It Home

You and others have taught me well that some singles aren't really notable, but are some albums (such as Make It Home by Dan Seals) not notable enough to have an article either? Ryanbstevens (talk) 20:24, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Make It Home

You and others have taught me well that some singles aren't really notable, but are some albums (such as Make It Home by Dan Seals) not notable enough to have an article either? Ryanbstevens (talk) 20:24, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Getcha Some

A user has requested me to undo a redirect on Toby Keith's "Getcha Some". I made it a redirect page, knowing that although a top 20 hit, still not high enough or notable enough. However, a user has said that he found sources on it, and knowing that although not notable enough, should still have an article because of Toby Keith's rap-like style. However, since i didn't really know what to do about a low peaking song such as this one in all the confusion, i just decided to follow his request and undid it. Then you added the redirect back. So did that mean that this song can't have an article no matter what due to it's low peaking? Ryanbstevens (talk) 20:41, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

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Shelton Brothers

Despite what the article said, the Shelton Brothers never charted on the Billboard country charts. Eric444 (talk) 10:51, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Store lists

Just letting you know, I've removed lists of former locations from a number of department and grocery store chain articles after having been reverted, and there's also some discussion going on regarding this practice at Talk:May Company Ohio and User talk:Pubdog, as well as back-and-forth in the history of Big Bear Stores. Would appreciate your opinion on these matters. Thanks! SchuminWeb (Talk) 18:52, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Could you also weigh in at User talk:Datrain021? Same issue, different venue. SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:06, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

She's My Kind of Rain

Hi, I see you've been in touch with the authour of this article. I must say, I have a few concerns over it, which I have expressed on the talk page of the authour (I can't remember the name offhand, sorry, but the revision history only has three entries). Having stumbled across your signature for the third time in under a week, I wondered if you'd take a look at it and clarify the point of notability. Many thanks, HJ Mitchell (talk) 19:30, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. However, it doesn't cite anything! no references, not even an external link- the only link is to a WP article on some music database which, if checked, merely seems to allow one to listen to the track. It doesn't seem to give any info on it (assuming, if it did, it would qualify as a WP:RS in the first place). I'll see what I can do later on if it's any help, though I'm working on something else at the minute (I just patrolled the last new page on the backlog as a distraction, though, as is often the way, I got further tied down!) regards, HJ Mitchell (talk) 20:44, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
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Caldor

I know it was a blog, but it actually was documentation (albeit not great documentation) of store locations. I don't much care, anyway. I just thought somebody ought to look at the content before deciding it was WP:linkspam. Personally, I've never been in a Caldor store in my life. I thought calling it WP:vandalism was a bit much, however. SINBD. No worries. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 00:32, 24 April 2009 (UTC) Stan

It would be nice if you would mention the "WP:vandalism". I thought it was a wee bit of an overreaction.
You two can do what you want with Caldor. I've already lost interest, and it will have to develop without me. Happy, happy editing. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 00:48, 24 April 2009 (UTC) Stan

[Wynonna]

Hey there :) A Wynonna fan here. I spent a lot of time finding references for all of the claims in the Wynonna article, and I did find a lot from her official sources. :) I removed your biography addition for a few reasons: 1) The writing was a little mediocre (not to mention Wynonna was misspelled), and 2) inaccuracy (her career began in 1992 :) ) I'm going to revert the article back to the references I added, and if you'd like to go through it and remove what sources are bad, this would be considerably less destructive than the current revision. Let me know what you think. Thanks ! :) Wynonnastff (talk) 23:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to remind you that Wikipedia is a COMMUNITY project, not just the work of one person :) A good editor would keep reverting back to the last "acceptable" article - but a GREAT editor would flag latest, sourced article, and make revisions, as it is less destructive. Thanks!!!

New Wynonna Edits

I understand that and I agree. I do not, however, understand your reasoning for reverting the article back to such a messy, primitive one, instead of trying help out the latest edits I've made. I feel like the constructive aspects of my recent edits were cleaning up the copy for errors, and moving things around for cohesion. I did obtain permission to use the image directly from the copyright holder. I have written proof, and thoroughly read through the fair use guidelines before uploading. I do feel like it qualifies. But..until we get that resolved, I understand that a free one should to be used. I hope we can collaborate on this and find a middle ground between the article I edited and one that meets Wikipedia's guidelines more effectively.

Wynonnastff (talk) 00:02, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

So, shall we start right now? I'd like to at least start with the bulk of the copy that can be seen on this revision: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wynonna_Judd&oldid=285951599, as I feel like it's pretty clean, and a good start from where the article is now. Judging by just the text & sources, what parts do you feel like would need to be removed? Also, I'd love for you to expand the lead section. Let me know what you think, as I can tell you have a lot more experience with this :)

  • Cool, we'll if you're working on it right now, I'll let you do your thing for a bit and come back see if I can contribute somehow! Let me know if you have any specific "tasks" or significant work you'd think would get the article moving again...I'd love to help. :)

Wynonnastff (talk) 00:22, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

  • Checked out the new edits. This looks great - well done. I'll do some work in the coming days digging up some of these sources, especially the chart ones. I have access to a lot of Billboard back issues from the archives in my college's library... Some things that catch my eye right now - the header of "Appearances in Television" is H3 while the two headers preceding and one following it are H2. I feel like they are all equally significant, so perhaps it was overlooked. Also, in the same paragraph, according to Wiki's MoS, I believe the comma after "Wynonna: Tribute on Ice" should fall outside of the quotation marks. Additionally, same paragraph, the end quotation mark is missing from "Nashville Star". One last thought - I feel like the image right now, although compliant with Fair Use and Wiki standards, is very outdated, and a better one could be found. I do have express, written permission from the copyright holder of the image I uploaded (plus a few others) and would like to discuss the possibilities of using this image, or another current image. *** Whoops - forgot to mention that I'd let you make the call on those edits in the "Appearances in Television" paragraph. Just pointing them out :)

Wynonnastff (talk) 04:27, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

  • Cool. PS - phonetically, my user name is read as 'Wynonna's Tough'. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wynonnastff (talkcontribs) 04:39, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

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Coloring in singles on track listings on album articles

I thought i'd show you this idea. On every album article, unless they're already linked (have an article), we should color in the songs on track listings that were released as singles green or some other color. Take a look at this album article Family Tradition for example. The title track has an article so it's linked, and doesn't really need to be colored in. The other three singles charted low and don't have articles, and so i colored them in green to identify that they were released as singles. Is this a good idea? Ryanbstevens (talk) 20:10, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ITunes Originals (2nd nomination)

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Vijay Kangutkar

My previous proposed deletion was denied so I requested AfD, why don't you just comment there? I'll remove the speedy deletion template, although I agree with it. Thanks Hekerui (talk) 15:55, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Well if they can, then fine. I thought that if a proposed deletion is denied that also pretty much means a speedy would. Hekerui (talk) 16:20, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Messages/Bonnie Tyler

Your message page was blanked. I presume this is a mistake.

On another note, per my Bonnie Tyler comment earlier, I feel slightly better now. The World Starts Tonight is complete and I shall carry on next time I'm on. Since I'd previously asked you for advice on discography pages, do you mind taking a quick peek and seeing if I overlooked anything? I'm trying to get back into good habits and will rework this whole thing if I have to (I just wish I knew what these 1977 compilations were on the discography page, her first CD was in 1977 and AllMusic has no compilations until 1991...hmm...). =) CycloneGU (talk) 04:03, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

I replied on my talk page per the album discussion. My reference to a mistake was because the archive for it hadn't been set up yet. =) CycloneGU (talk) 21:53, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

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Requesting images

TPH, you replied to my helpme request earlier - I've since randomly stumbled upon Wikipedia:Requested pictures, which might be of use to you at some point in the future. Cheers, Bigger digger (talk) 21:42, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Purevolume

Perhaps you would consider changing your opinion on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PureVolume since non-trivial reliable sources have been found since your input, and the fact that I have rewritten the article using these sources. ~EdGl 18:28, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Love Your Love the Most

Why did you merge the single's article into the album article? Should i have waited until it got higher? Because i know that the article on Jason Michael Carroll's single "Where I'm From" was created when it was only in the upper 30's. "Love Your Love the Most" is now in the lower 20's. So shouldn't it have it's own article? Ryanbstevens (talk) 22:01, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

User:CleanUpGirl/Siegel+Gale

Not following the G7; at a glance, it looks like it's had several editors, is that right? (Watchlisting) - Dank (push to talk) 15:05, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

2 Skinnee J's

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  • Great, now i'm worried The League of Inclusionist Wikipedians will recruit you, a dyed in the wool deletionst pig-child. The end is nigh. treelo radda 21:13, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
    • Benedict Hammer. Yngvarr (t) (c) 21:29, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
      • To borrow a line from User:X!, I'm a delusionist.[citation needed] Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Many ottersOne hammerHELP) 22:59, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
      • Very funny, Yngvarr. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Many ottersOne hammerHELP) 23:03, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
        • What many don't realize is that inclusionist/deletionist ideologies generally refer to article information that is not properly cited - not the article itself. TPH removed all unsourced information in a splendid effort to keep the article. Keeping is not the same as inclusion. If anything, he acted as more of a deletionist in an effort to save an article that was brought to AfD mainly because of inclusion of unsourced material. He is still your beloved deletionist, lol. Law type! snype? 23:18, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
          • I'm sure they know that. Treelo and Yngvarr are just funning. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Many ottersOne hammerHELP) 23:20, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
            • O I realized that. I just felt like clowning back ;) Law type! snype? 23:37, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
              • Wait, now I'm lost... I suppose this is how you feel on occasion. Tell me again as if we're at simple.wiki as I became lost just after Yng got the fatherly "Very funny". It's all the full names, not that anyone is shortening my name and they damn well better not. Radda. treelo radda 00:33, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
                • Aww gee, Wally, we were just having fun. Yngvarr (t) (c) 00:40, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
                  • T'werent you, was them and their there book learnin's. I's just simple folk'n, undoin' an' revertin' allas time, ain't doing none of that fancy buildin' shenanigans and speakin' all long like. Why shoot, a guy could get lost in allas tha'. treelo radda 00:46, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Rescue is a practice with a long and honourable tradition at AFD, going back many years. Goodonyer! But on that very subject, see the rescue at Title track (AfD discussion), performed by some other article rescuers. Uncle G (talk) 13:33, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Hm, nice {{On AFD}} template there, classy. Anyway, I wouldn't consider converting a page into a dab a rescue but I guess I should be happy it's Chowder's nom which was rescued. treelo radda 15:39, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Stuff (Header)

Hello!!! I've been creating articles left and right (you should know)! I've just created List of songs written by Kostas. If you know of any songs by him that aren't on the list, add 'em! good day. Publichall (talk) 02:48, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

John Anderson

I have created all the missing album articles for John Anderson, so you can remove him from your list. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 05:08, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Assign me something!

Hey, saw your cry for help on your user page, and thought I'd volunteer - point me at an article you think needs some love, and I'll give it a run. I need some inspiration, and I'm too lazy to get anything going on my own. =) Tony Fox (arf!) 22:45, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Boom, baby! What do you think, sirs? Tony Fox (arf!) 06:30, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello, User:TenPoundHammer

Hello, TenPoundHammer! How are you? Ericthebrainiac (talk) 19:01, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

DANGER, WILL ROBINSON!! DANGER!! [32] treelo radda 19:43, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Leon Ashley

Updated DYK query On May 10, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Leon Ashley, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Shubinator (talk) 14:41, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Dead Flowers

I didn't think this was appropriate for the Dead Flowers AFD, but I'm just curious, not being all that familiar with the various American charts, whether a hit on the "Hot Country Songs" chart is considered reliable or applicable for the purposes of notability. Billboard states that Miranda Lambert's single was a promo, which suggests the chart is not based on sales, and that the single wasn't actually even 'released', so I wonder how much legitimacy it has. I also wonder whether number 40 on such a specialist chart (presumably equating to way outside the top 100 of the 'proper' singles chart, the "Hot 100") can really be considered a 'hit single'? I know I've come across people claiming that number 40-50 on national singles charts doesn't constitute a 'hit' in previous AFDs. I'm not planning on nominating the article for deletion or anything, just curious to know how that chart is thought of. Thanks. --Michig (talk) 15:52, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Ruby Summer

Carolwood Records is apparently owned by Disney; does that make a difference? (Watchlisting) - Dank (push to talk) 17:53, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Sigh

When I prod, I want to draw the attention of the right wikiproject. Does that mean for bands, I have to figure out which one they are in this list? " Alternative • Christian Metal • Christian • Country • Electronic • Emo • Hip hop • Jam bands • Metal • Musical Theatre • Punk • Rave • R&B and Soul • Rock" If so, where do I find the talk page tags for those wikiprojects? Thanks. - Dank (push to talk) 20:34, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Wayne Massey

On the album cover, "Black Hawk" is written on his guitar, so it's possible that his guitar is named Black Hawk.[33] That's all that I've been able to find. Eric444 (talk) 07:28, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

AfD protocol

Good day Sir,

I hope this message finds you well. I want to ask you about the removal of two of my AfD nominations. In your edit summary, your succinct reply was "did it wrong". That's all well and good, and I shall defer to your judgement on the matter. However, I do take exception to a lack of explaination on *how* to do it correctly. Would you, sir, be so kind as to explain this procedure to me? I appreciate your help. Sincerely, Kale Weathers (talk) 18:29, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Bent Banana

You can't just put a speedy tag back on. I am not the author and I didn't do anything illegitimate; I removed a tag that's inappropriate, and the next step, AfD, is already happening. Please don't do that again. Chubbles (talk) 02:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Look, I don't like to start edit wars, but I also disagree. Where do we go from here? Chubbles (talk) 02:21, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
There's no urgency; nothing happens if this article stays up for a couple days. I can't believe everyone is just taking my word for this; they don't take my word on the notability of anything else. Chubbles (talk) 02:24, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

AVON LAKE, OHIO

My edit was not vandalism. I simply rv red-linked names for non-notables (including a Playboy Playmate) and added a name (Brett Kirwan) that I planned to create an article for. (see Avon Lake's edit history here) You may or may not agree with the edit, but you should not label it as vandalism when it clearly was not. That term is very objectionable. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 07:14, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Genuine vandalism on Avon Lake, Ohio page (see here) by an anonymous IP vandal after your rv my edit missed by you; I rv. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 07:21, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Number-one albums categories

Hi. I tried creating the category, Category:Billboard 200 number-one albums, a number of months ago before knowing the previous history and it was speedily deleted. However, because there are so many number-one singles categories and zero number-one albums categories, I sought some feedback from User:Good Olfactory and User:Ericorbit, and neither objected to me trying to recreate the category again based on my reasoning and seeing that the last CFD occurred nearly three years ago. I'm uncertain as to why singles are able to get categorized by every country and every Billboard chart where they hit #1, but albums don't get the same treatment. Thanks. --Wolfer68 (talk) 07:31, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

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Alright, I CSD G7ed it. Hopefully it's kosher to G7 my own image; I'm guessing it is, since the image was non-controversial and created for a one-off and now deprecated joke page. One (talk) 15:41, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Notice:

Major Fred C Dobbs is not a character but an episode. Please review your comment at AfD, the article, adn correct your comment and !vote as needed. Thank you for your efforts in reviewing my submissions at AfD. ThuranX (talk) 20:54, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. ThuranX (talk) 20:55, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help

--Manawyddan (talk) 21:22, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

John D Loudermilk

You removed this guy from country songwriters. I knew him as a country songwriter, but I could be wrong, OTOH, he is listed in his article as "country." However, as genre is an arrangement rather than anything to do with songwriting which is purely melody and words, I am not sure if you can categorise songwriters by genre anyway. I'll leave it for you to decide. Thanks. --Richhoncho (talk) 22:38, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

"The Future" Lonestar's next single?

I did a little bit of investigating on Lonestar's discography through the edit history. "The Future" was listed as the next single for three months now. It should've been released by now. It being listed as the next single for three months has led me to realize that their next single "The Future" is false information, and not really sourced, in addition to that next single being put in by an unestablished user. I was wondering, am i right that their next single "The Future" could be false information? It was listed there for three months, and it still hasn't been released. Ryanbstevens (talk) 23:00, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

AWB task

Does this still need to be done?--Rockfang (talk) 04:58, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Homestead Bicycles

Hi TPH. I encountered your speedy tag at CAT:SD and, initially, I didn't intend to take any action. However, I read through the entire article; in my opinion, it did not cross the G11 threshold, so I decided to decline it. To quote the criterion: "Unambiguous advertising or promotion. Pages that exclusively promote some entity and that would need to be fundamentally rewritten to become encyclopedic." I agree that the article is quite unencyclopedic and has neutrality problems (seems to match the "fundamentally rewritten" part of that sentence). It's not "unambiguous advertising", though, with the sole purpose of promotion. There is some neutral info, for example, the "production and controversy" is not an advert. CSD is generally for irretrievable, obvious cases, and this is not really one of those.

If the AfD runs its one-week course, the article will probably get deleted from lack of notability, anyway. For now, I'm letting another admin handle this case. Best, JamieS93 19:48, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

It looks like DGG just declined the speedy himself. JamieS93 19:50, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
As an aside, if you read the article it in fact says that the company is out of business. It's rather hard to make an argument that an article is advertising when you can no longer buy the product. --BlueSquadronRaven 14:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

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Eddie Rabbitt

I've created all the album articles for Eddie Rabbitt, and I have re-written his biographical article. You can now remove him from your list. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 06:04, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

New Kadampa tradition

Hey man I just got unblocked on the above page-Im sorry about the rant-I did a shorter expl there after your request. Please can you help on this?See the NKT talk page, last section. I dont know how to deal with these people-they are slippery customersYonteng (talk) 20:16, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/University of Atlanta

I recommend not closing this early. Although I favor keeping and I am skeptical of the nominator's motivations, I don't think there's harm in letting the discussion run its course. I can think of at least one established editor who will support the nomination to delete. --A. B. (talkcontribs) 23:10, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for the head's up! DRosenbach (Talk | Contribs) 02:31, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

FYI

WT:TV#Uniform standards for notability guidelines of TV episodes You're at least peripherally involved. Nosleep break my slumber 12:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Tubular_Bells#2009_reissue

ZombieCow (talk · contribs) was concerned about the refs in Tubular_Bells#2009_reissue, and I pointed out that it might be WP:CRYSTAL and not yet meet WP:BAND. IIRC, you're knowledgable about such things? Please advise ZombieCow (talk · contribs) if so. Cheers, CU@IRC I expect. Regards to the otters.  Chzz  ►  22:01, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Rehoboth Carpenter Page

Please check out the ongoing problems at Rehoboth Carpenter family. Any suggestions? Jrcrin001 (talk) 06:05, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/TenPoundHammer 7

if it ever happens, I still want to support. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 03:44, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to know why people are so anxious to get you adminned up, it still reminds me of a kid with scissors who likes to run. A lot. treelo radda 16:22, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
I dunno, but I'm still waiting for my box of Krispy Kremes from the last time I gave support. Yngvarr (t) (c) 20:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Good luck with that, if you do end up getting one expect a near empty box of doughnut holes with a few clam shell fragments. I speak from experience though he'd deny it, YOU CAN'T KEEP AN EYE ON THEM OTTERS ALL THE TIME!! treelo radda 21:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

(merp) Huh, usually we'd have been replied to by now. This is what you get when you make friends with people who have passion and time to burn, us dilettantes get nothing from them, not even a doughnut holes box covered in paw prints with two left and they're both the crummy powered sugar type. treelo radda 16:10, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

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Once more. SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:29, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

I need your opinion

Would a song in the 1990's or 1980's that peaked lower than #10 deserve an article, or would they not be notable enough. Ryanbstevens (talk) 17:28, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey

Can we briefly semi-protect the Eurovision Song Contest winners page? People are already scrambling to update results that are not yet official. I'm watching the show on the Web site myself as I type, BTW. =) CycloneGU (talk) 21:51, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Whoops - thought you were an admin. Please ignore that. I will update the page myself the moment it's done, in any case - I may post the points table. CycloneGU (talk) 21:55, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Pipe links

What are you talking about? I haven't edited that page in months.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 23:30, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

May 9 was the last time you told me about piping links.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 23:34, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
It's okay. As soon as I finish Spirit Dancer, I'm going to start working on the missing Ronnie Milsap albums. I will be sure to pipe my links.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 00:13, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Edit summary

Hello Your recent edit to Cracked Rear View contains a virtually unintelligible edit summary. I think that you're delinking John Nau, but I don't know why; it seems like having a link to him is valid according to WP:REDLINK. If you wish to respond, please do so on my talk. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 01:22, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Help!

Alrighty, this has been bugging me forever! And I've asked your assistance on this matter before. I still don't have the reverting edits thing down yet. Wikipedia:Reverting didn't help that much. I'm trying to do like what you did here, but I can't seem to do it on my own. Could help...again? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 01:37, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

But I already have Twinkle on my gadgets selected. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 01:42, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Umm nope! Unless I'm just not looking in the right spot. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 01:45, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
No, nothing is different at all when I do it. I even went to the rollback page I think and made a monobook with the text it said to copy and save it. But nothing different happened. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 01:53, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

k, I did. I don't get what the problem could be? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 01:57, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

But I just created the monobook like 5 minutes ago, if that. I did exactly what it said to do and it said it should work after I save the monobook with the code. But it didn't...EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 02:00, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Country music

I'm curious on the country music question... are alt-country style offerings within your request? Ryan Adams (AT TIMES), or Drive by Truckers, or even Dylan? Outside of that sphere I don't know much.

Also, if you ever [want to] come up for admin again, drop me a line. I'm annoyed you're not in there yet. Shadowjams (talk) 06:44, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Make It Home

Hey, I was just tossing websites off the top of my head. I wouldn't call Amazon unreliable, it's just too commercial. Publichall (talk) 10:59, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Nudge the user with a clue-bat

Re: the silly episodes AfD, do you think you could try some nudging? Another voice might add to the message! Thanks. ╟─TreasuryTagcontribs─╢ 11:44, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Jolly good show, let's hope it works! ╟─TreasuryTagcontribs─╢ 11:47, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

hi there, pls reply to me asap. thanks. warmest regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreams20 (talkcontribs) 13:30, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Khymera

Ah, thanks for tagging the page. I'm pretty sure I completed the process of deleting it though :S NPervez (talk) 14:00, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Jeopardy!

Sorry, not worth the hassle anymore. Sottolacqua (talk) 14:14, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Glen Campbell discography

Hi TenPoundHammer, I saw your remark on the Glen Campbell discography page. I have reread the guideline you mentioned and compared with other discographies, including ones you edited, but I could not find something that is "way, way afoul" of those guidelines. Could you please some examples of what you mean? I would be happy to rewrite the parts that need improvement.

Thanks! Lumdeloo (talk) 15:49, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

MASH vote

Please note I've nom'd two others so far, and will probably continue to. There's a lot of crufty nonsense there. ThuranX (talk) 02:10, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Please be aware that at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Requiem_for_a_Lightweight#Requiem_for_a_Lightweight, Richard Arthur Norton has implied you are guilty of collusionary behavior for your nomination of the MASH Pilot. ThuranX (talk) 18:55, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it's the comment AFTER your 'bwuh', in which he makes the suggestion of collusion. "You did not nominate the MASH pilot, that was completed by 10 PoundHammer and you started on deletion of season two before you finished nomination of all of season one. " he says, implying that you 'completed' my actions in some bizarre way. ThuranX (talk) 19:08, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
I guess I read it differently, having already once been a victim of his antics. AN thread is up to you. Since he commented against me in the thread about me, any actions I take against him for his behaviors will be portrayed as tit-for-tat or vengeful, no doubt. ThuranX (talk) 20:08, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
No sooner do I complete my reply to you than I see that he's again at it, carefully crafting his words to reflect hidden machinations on your, or our, part. Go look. He could have quite easily said 'oh, I'm wrong, Ten Pound did nominate that on his own', but instead he continues to use 'completed', implying that you worked with me to 'finish' something, perhaps the first season. I'm really getting tired of his attempts to poison the entire AfD set there. ThuranX (talk) 20:14, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Categories to look at

Hey there TenPoundHammer, I know you work extensively in categories and I was wondering it you could take a look at Category:Singers by time period and its sub-categories. They're probably best to be deleted, but I just wanted to make sure. — Σxplicit 20:07, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Ray Joseph Cormier

Can you believe a year has passed by already since the last time I needed your help? Editors have made many changes to the subject BLP, but there has been little improvement.

I´m hoping you will have the experience to place the images [34] & [35] into the current version of the BLP with the appropriate tags.

Talk:Ray_Joseph_Cormier#A_New_Day_A_New_Beginning

Many thanks. DoDaCanaDa (talk) 00:41, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately you did not read the Talk link above. I came to you requesting you put the images in the Subject Biography, not nominate them for deletion.

I am the sole owner of both images. There is no copyright restricting their use whatsoever. If I knew the proper tag to attach to them, I wouldn´t need your help. The tag currently attached to them outside the article gives all the information necessary. I OWN THE IMAGES 100%. If THERE IS A COPYRIGHT, I OWN IT. I HEREBY RELEASE BOTH IMAGES INTO THE PUBLIC DOMAIN UNDER THE GNU FREE LICENSING. What more is required to satisfy Wikipedia?

  • Thank you Ten Pounder. Now if you would please post them in the Article, I would be most grateful. The current photo was a gift on turning 65 on May 21 this Thursday. DoDaCanaDa (talk) 18:38, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
  • I suppose the current photo should be near the intro somewhere and the poster belongs in the Section: Early Life and Conversion It´s funny! You thought it was a hi-res scan and I think it´s a low-res scan.

When you find the time to read offsite, check out this. I wrote a letter to CNN last year thinking it was for internal CNN use, but to my surprise I found it online last Tuesday. Because it is a iReport, after reading the main story. click MORE under my comments starting with comment 1 then moving up to The Way to Kansas City, .1, .2, &.3. Hope you like this part of my biography.

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-65703

Thanks again, Ray DoDaCanaDa (talk) 18:59, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Much appreciated, Ten Pounder. In my opinion, this is the first real improvement to the Article since July last year. DoDaCanaDa (talk) 19:11, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
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Love & Gravity

I know this is getting old but I'd really appreciate it if you removed the tag on the article. There are currently 27 sources and I don't think I can find any more. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 18:50, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 19:07, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

The Geezinslaws

All but one of their singles were credited to The Geezinslaw Brothers. Eric444 (talk) 13:22, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Swap. My help for your advice!

TPH, I was wondering if I could offer you a swap? You point me in the direction of a new Country stub you need, and you can help me with an odd problem I have? I'll assume you say yes and write about my problem!

Puebla F.C. (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs|views) is a perfectly normal looking page, I'm not sure how I came across it, but I did. An editor was having a problem with an IP editor who keeps adding a whole chunk of information (doubles the page size from 13ish kb to 30+ kb) which is unsourced and poorly written, but could well be correct and useful. I've been watching the page for a few days now and seem to have taken over from the previous editor in reverting the additions, on the basis they are unsourced and might be OR. I have posted numerous messages on the IP's talk page 76.235.130.49 (talk · contribs) but can't get a response, and an RfC on the talk page has drawn zero attention. What steps should I take from here to look after this article, encourage the IP editor to play the wp game and generally make the place a bit nicer?! TIA, Bigger digger (talk) 23:41, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Following your assistance I've picked out an article and looked up some sources. Could you have a look at Talk:Billy Gilman#Sources and briefly comment on their suitability? Cheers, Bigger digger (talk) 21:16, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Make It Home

The information actually was in the link. Look under "Moods" on the left side.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 00:06, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

  • That doesn't count. It's still a directory listing and is trivial. No other article mentions the moods that Allmusic uses, and they shouldn't. There are no significant sources at all. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 00:12, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
"In general, if the musician or ensemble that recorded an album is considered notable (which Dan Seals is), then officially released albums (which Make It Home is) may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Wikipedia." (WP:NALBUMS) I feel the directories do verify the album's existence, and mentions in the press verify the album's notability. I don't understand why a "review" must exist to prove an album's notability. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 00:28, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Track lyrics and listings are not trivial information, neither are commentaries on the album's mood and style. The information about 1990 is to help explain the context of the album and that the performer was at the end of his career. I probably would've voted to keep the Collin Raye album, because I assume at the least the above information was available and it applies to the principle I quoted. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 00:49, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
You can't claim the article can't be expanded because it can, descriptions of the content can be added from track lyrics from CMT. And wikipedia is not a democracy, thankfully, and I don't believe the votes are a reflection of wikipedia policy. This isn't some garage band or a non-notable individual, its Dan Seals.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 01:06, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
By just explaining what the songs are about, and not going any further, like a synopsis.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 01:18, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Why? It's a legitimate use of a primary source.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 01:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
The cutoff should be at whether enough reliable sources exist to create an article that can be more than a track list. If the lyrics are available at a reliable source, and if the album is documented in several directories, then an article that is more than a track list can be created.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 04:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
This discussion has been included on the articles for deletion page.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 21:45, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Proposed Blackhawk (band) split

I did some measuring, and Blackhawk's page is long enough to split. They have had enough singles and albums, and their biography's long enough to split. Like i said, i did some measuring, and artist's pages such as Phil Vassar and Craig Morgan have been splitted, and this page (the biography) is about the same length, which is long enough to split. Would you agree or oppose this split? I already put it on the band article's talkpage, so you can comment there if you'd like. Ryanbstevens (talk) 02:18, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Help offered

After your advice above, I've offered to have a look at Billy Gilman. As requested above, but possibly missed by you, could you just quickly comment on the sources at Talk:Billy Gilman#Sources. I can write an article, and copyedit, but my confidence in country music reliable sources is not so good! Bigger digger (talk) 12:07, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Gwinhurst, Delaware

Just curious why you think this community doesn't deserve an article, seeing that longstanding consensus has held that all communities are notable? Nyttend (talk) 18:23, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I've made a policy-based argument at the AFD; would you please revisit it and respond, either by changing your vote or explaining why you continue to believe that it shouldn't remain a separate article? Nyttend (talk) 21:20, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

AFD repair

Thanks for that repair work, I wasn't sure what I had done wrong there. Alastairward (talk) 18:49, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: TFD for {{cite newsgroup}}

Thanks for the message on my talk page. I know I'm not currently actively editing Wikipedia (mostly due to time limitations), but I do try and keep up. :-) Jude (talk) 05:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Stew Herrera

I fixed the Stew Herrera WP:AFD for you. You forgot to include "subst:" in the formula when you first initiated the WP:AFD for Herrera and the "this article's entry" prompt was thus still red-linked. Yours, Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 12:03, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey - can you explain what "Glitchy Twinkle is glitchy. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat" means? I have no idea what you're talking about. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 18:04, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh. I have had bad experiences with WP:TWINKLE myself. Very bad. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 18:08, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Homestead Bicycles

According the tag at the bottom of my post which was incorrectly (and rudely) deleted, it states that I can request the page. Can you please send it to me? Thank You. Nedla detsmlo (talk) 16:57, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Infobox musical artist

I've seen you edit {{Infobox Musical artist}} a lot. Do you think that a bot could be made that points out blank or incorrect "background" fields? I've seen tons and tons of blank or incorrect entries in the "background" field, and having a bot find them all in one fell swoop would be a great idea in my opinion. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 03:02, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply; I had real-life matters to attend to. The bot sounds like a good idea, even though, if I'm not mistaken, there is a bot for that purpose already running around somewhere. You should raise the isse on the infobox talk page, or at the project talk at Wikipedia:WikiProject Music. I've had expreiences there, but none were particularly pleasant. Orane (talk)

Reptar

Hello. I strongly urge you to avoid stuff like "slobbering fanboy" in these discussions. Please focus on the articles and not readers/editors. Also, given the existence of a ride of the same name at multiple amusement parks, I think a valid case could/should at least be made for a redirect in at least this one's case. Best, --A NobodyMy talk 00:10, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I warned him about using that term, it might be accurate to some extent but it's not for someone of some kind of repute to be saying, dilettante idiots like me might get away with it but not you. Sometimes I wonder if Cheyenne shouldn't be circling closer to home, can't be having a bat of clues without knowing what clues the bat dispenses... or something. treelo radda 00:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Cheyenne's too busy clue-batting others to clue-bat me. Maybe I need a second clue-bat? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 00:47, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I think so, six otters and only one bat seems a bit unfair. Anyway, you do seem to need it given now your stand for el presidénte admin has been kicked way back to 2010 now and likely to creep to 2011 then never. treelo radda 09:24, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Userboxes

On userboxes, is there a way to find images that are legal to use? I did notice images on three of my userboxes disappearing, and was wondering if i should find some images on my own, and uploading them onto the userbox, and of course put the right type of copyright license. Ryanbstevens (talk) 00:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

  • One more question. What was wrong with those images that i had put in there before they were removed? Ryanbstevens (talk) 01:04, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

WP:WHYCANTMADEUPCRAPLIKETHISBEDELETED

Why on AfD disscussions, you alawys type WP:WHYCANTMADEUPCRAPLIKETHISBEDELETED? In fact that page (Wikipedia:Why can't madeup crap like this be deleted) does not exist. The Junk Police (reports|works) 01:59, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Rayeselected.jpg)

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Your otters have been naughty

... and so now are proud parents of adorable baby otters!!! Congrats! Benders Game 18:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I see here about your weary complaint. There are some of us who care for you, but not retail stiores. LOL. Bearian (talk) 20:43, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Nobody will help me destroy oddly formed fanwank lists but you don't see me over-using <big> tags like a kid with a new word. treelo radda 21:22, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

For the Love (Tracy Lawrence album)

I have put up all of the songwriters for every song on Tracy Lawrence's For the Love album. The only two songs that I did not put the songwriters on were the B-Sides, for which I do not know who wrote those. --Tristinarocks (talk) 18:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

The Oak Ridge Boys albums

Should the "The" be included? The reason I didn't include it on The Boys Are Back (Oak Ridge Boys album) was because I noticed that all the other Oak Ridge Boys albums were formated without the "The" [36]. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 23:50, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don't Go Near the Water (Beach Boys song)

This is for not putting the AFD tag on the other bundled articles...

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Jason Aldean concert

I'm in Pikeville, Kentucky right now, and i'm going to go see Jason Aldean at the Expo Center tonight. If i manage to get a picture of him, would it be appropriate for use on Wikipedia? (By the way, thanks for the happy birthday message. It really means a lot.) Ryanbstevens (talk) 22:03, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Yup, just license it correctly and that'll be great. Come to me if you need help with licensing, this goober knows little about licenses. treelo radda 22:07, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for pinch hitting for me, Treelo. I was out of town most of yesterday. Yeah, that would definitely be acceptable. Just tell me when you've uploaded the image and I'll help you pick a license. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 13:22, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Or not. treelo radda 13:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
  • It'll take some time, but i'll try to get the image. Ryanbstevens (talk) 19:54, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Re-adding speedy tags already removed

Regarding this: Did you not notice this? Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 17:21, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Please check an article's history before you add a speedy tag. You never know what you might find. In the past, I have found previous revisions that asserted notability when the current version did not. Also, if you disagree with an admin's assessment, re-adding a speedy tag can be viewed as admin-shopping. Not a good idea. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 17:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Hillary Scott

Please see Talk:Hillary Scott (country music artist) Corpx (talk) 17:48, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Non-charting singles

Non-charting singles aren't listed in the Whitburn book, unfortunately. The best places to verify them are LP Discography or Rocky 52. Eric444 (talk) 11:15, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Deana Carter

I disagree, because even though it peaked low, there's enough to be said about it, in my opinion. Expanded her actual artist page is a great idea, but you can't expand it with information on a song. Besides, "Angels Working Overtime" wasn't a stub - it was quite full of info. I'll try to find some sources. CloversMallRat (talk) 20:33, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I just wanted to let you know I went ahead and expanded Deana Carter's arist page =) It is now relatively long and contains much more detail CloversMallRat (talk) 06:15, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
I'd rather it be in its own, seperate page where it belongs. The song didn't peak as high as some of her others, but compare the length in that article to her No. 1 hit "We Danced Anyway" - it really is suitable for a page, despite the lower peak. CloversMallRat (talk) 16:57, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Question re Number one singles in Canada category

Since you were the nominator for this category deletion, I just wanted to check in with you for a question. I've moved a few of the constituents to the correct category per the split. However, as I've been going, I noticed that there are sub-categories here as well, including the three to which the individual articles are being moved. Did you have thoughts about where the sub-categories should be moved, or were you less interested in deleting the category itself than you were in just making sure everything was sub-categorized? Mlaffs (talk) 18:13, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

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I have challenged the CfD of :Category:Fast Folk artists, which you nominated again for deletion last month, at WP:DRV. Chubbles (talk) 02:14, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Melody Gilbert

I began working on this one. Its gonna be a strong keeper. Sure the original author did nothing but start one sentence with some poor referencing... but the lady's film get some very decent coverage. I'll have no problem pushing this over the GNG bar. Its already looking better and will be great by the time I am through. Trust me. eFilm Critic, Rift Magazine, Minnesota Public Radio 1, Cannes, Variety, San Francisco Examiner, Sundance Channel, Minnesota Stories, Minnesota Daily 1, Minnisota Daily 2, Wisconsin Public Television 1, Wisconsin Public television 2, Chicago Doc Festival, Minnesota Public Radio 2, Minnesota Public Radio 3, WCCO, CUFF, EDU Filmfest, MinnPost, CITWF, Minnesota Council of Foundations, Indie Wire, Hollywood Bitchslap, IFP Minnesota, Newslab, TCUEC... and a whole lot more. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 07:40, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

afd

thank you for offering to help, I think I fixed it

the afd script doesn't work I've noticed (loss of session data)Thisglad (talk) 16:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Home (Michael Bublé song)

May I ask what's wrong with my formatting of this article? I think that it makes more sense to have an intro that summarizes all three versions, a section for Bublé's version, a section for Westlife's and a section for Shelton's. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 17:53, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

That's simply not how it works. The song is not an independent entity. It is owned and copyrighted by the original artist, and other artists pay/ask to sing their interpretation of the original. It is Wikipedia convention to mention the original version first, then separate additional versions later in the article. I also think this version is best. See "Jai Ho", "Against All Odds", "Without You", "Ain't No Mountain High Enough", "Open Arms", and basically every other song that has been resung. As, such, I'll revert your edit to the Buble's version. Orane (talk) 23:04, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
If you feel strongly about this, you may wish to bring up the issue at WP:Wikiproject Music. Orane (talk) 23:08, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Told otherwise by who? That's how I've always known it to be. Orane (talk) 23:09, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Country music

♫ "...and then I lost my mind" ♪ — Twas Now ( talkcontribse-mail ) 00:07, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Deana Carter

So if you don't want to use the term, "sophomore slump" (which makes sense to me, being as its used in reviews and what not), then you should provide an alternative. Please feel free to change it to something else when you edit it next time. CloversMallRat (talk) 00:52, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

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For your outstanding and almost single-handed dedication to creating country music articles in Wikipedia, I award you the Music Barnstar. Congratulations! Chris (talk) 12:08, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Blue's Clues

TPH, I noticed that you had put a headah template on this article. It was a victim of some vandalism that got away from us, so the first section header was removed. I solved it by going way back, to an early-May version, just to be safe, so that removed your template. Thanks, if you hadn't had done that, the bad version would've continued. So you helped me catch it! This article gets a moderate level of vandalism, so no administrator thinks it's bad enough to need protection, so this happens from time to time. And it seems to get the most juvenile of vandalism, too. Thanks again. --Christine (talk) 14:09, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

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Zim

Yes, I'll help you with Zim! I know a source that may state more about Zim, BTW. A book by Jerry Beck, Not Just Cartoons: Nicktoons!, may have some info on it. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:04, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Non-Admin snow closure?

I think you have been too hasty closing the AfD on Enectali Figueroa. My nomination was in good faith, and I expected to have some debate. I presented evidence that his h-index failed WP:PROF, and that he was not the pioneer of the type of sensor clamed in the article. As "Enectali Figueroa" he has three Google News hits, none of which say much, and as "Figueroa-Feliciano", none. The wave of Keeps was to be expected when the AfD was listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Puerto Rico, but aside from David Shankbone we did not hear from the Wikipedia community-at-large. Also, there was a not-vote for deletion on the Talk Page of the article that predated the AfD, indicating that somebody besides me thought this article was questionable. Thank you, Joey the Mango (talk) 18:11, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Forthcoming band article

I know you despair at the contentless "forthcoming album" articles we get: how's this for the entire content of a "forthcoming band" article which was speedied this afternoon:

The Sound Of Perseverance is an uncreated Progressive Metal band from Monroe, Louisiana. They hope to find members and write songs in the future, but the actual formation of the band could be unsuccessful.(the name may change in time as well.)

We maybe need a corollary to WP:HAMMER to say that if a band hasn't finished recruiting its article is unlikely to survive. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

R&R and Mediabase

R&R is ceased. Should we use Mediabase instead? Canada is now chartless, and I think we can trust Mediabase. Langdon (talk) 23:15, 3 June 2009 (UTC)i7114080

I did not mean US, because thay have Billboard. But why don't we use Mediabase? Well, before Billboard and R&R merged, R&R is like Mediabase right now, but we approve its Canadian country positions. Also, 2 charts are extremely similar for the Top 20, or even Top 30. Please tell we why we shouldn't use mediabase. Langdon (talk) 23:31, 3 June 2009 (UTC)i7114080

Chasin' the Sun

Would you like it listed under personnel or in the infobox? Publichall (talk) 00:44, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Music articles to be created

What about Rob Hajacos (fiddler)? he played on many country albums in the early 1990's. I know nothing about him, I was just making a suggestion for your list. Publichall (talk) 00:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Guidance

Hammer, JClemens suggested that I should talk to you in seeking guidance about deletion, AfD, redirects, etc. So I'll start by broadly asking for guidance in general. I primarily ask because I've apparently been a hair too zealous (I know I have jumped the gun once or twice at what looked like a hoax on first glance) and could probably use some. Thank you very much.Tyrenon (talk) 20:18, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

"You try to cross over there on a chicken..."

This forced my poor overtaxed brain into some strange places, and I realized there's some wonderful synergy in where it went. (Plus, for your amusement, another take on the same theme.) Tony Fox (arf!) 20:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Gosh you are fast!

Well done. Also this new user has deleted the warning from the page. Capitalismojo (talk) 03:59, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

For the man who has WP:XFD on speed dial ...

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Exactly how many Key delete.jpg does your keyboard have?! ZabMilenko 08:20, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Wait! How can a man with a article rescue barnie also have a barnie for reliable deletionism? This would usually set things in balance given the minor panic induced last time by inclusionist slurs being popped around but I'm not feeling that it's forthcoming. treelo radda 08:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Deletionism does not imply recklessness (the meta:Association of Deletionist Wikipedians would be offended at the thought). I have learned quite alot reading TPH's WP:XFD stuff over the last month and have nothing but respect behind this award. ZabMilenko 09:07, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Buuuuuut it's nothing to do with his reckless abandon with the wifflebat of deletion, it's to do with him being liked by both somewhat opposing factions. How can this be? One cannot be considered one of both as he is then of neither... or something. treelo radda 09:33, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Ahhhhh what you are proposing is a paradox for pondering! ZabMilenko 09:40, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Indeedy do, it's them Article Rescue types who dropped him a barnie a while back and usually what gets slapped with the rescue tag is that which would get a speedy tag from the opposite side. So when someone who is a reliable deletionist gets praise from someone of the AIW ilk you wonder how and if you'll still be here tomorrow should the universe not kill itself. treelo radda 10:11, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
You fools! You have no possible idea what power you toy with! Yngvarr (t) (c) 12:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Invader Zim

I'll take a look at the article to see what else it needs (besides sources) WhisperToMe (talk) 01:35, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Peer review

Real life took me away before the PR was finished. I'll complete the job this evening and post everything to the PR page. Finetooth (talk) 23:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I just posted the complete review to PR. I'm glad to hear the good news about the photo. Finetooth (talk) 01:28, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Mohawk Mall

Hi, regarding the Mohawk Mall article, the reason it had a qualifier was because there are/were multiple malls by that name. At this point I am not aware of any of the others having a Wikipedia article. That could obviously change in the future. I have no problem leaving it as is (without the qualifier), but thoughts on whether it would be better to have the qualifier to be prepared? Yx7791 (talk) 01:01, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, just noticed the message on my talk page. You know, I spent hours and hours of research listing the tenants. It is the history of the place. Without tenants, a mall is just a shell and ultimately faces demolition. For those interested in retail history in the NY Capital Region, it was made available. Clearly, it was a total waste of my time. There are plenty of places on Wikipedia where there are lists that could never be complete. I can see why people get frustrated with Wikipedia with these kinds of ridiculous policies. This was not vandalism; it was well-researched information and I strongly take exception to its removal. However, it is obvious my well-researched contributions are unwelcome here. In the future, unless there is some serious need to correct something blatantly inaccurate here on Wikipedia, when I feel the need to post well-referenced historical information, I will make it available on an alternative web site (one which lacks so many bureaucratic rules and lacks the reputation for so much inaccurate information!). Yx7791 (talk) 01:24, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

It's not a question of being let down; it's a situation of hours of sourced historical research being wasted. I started it out as prose and found it was too boring. As a historical researcher, I like to know opening/closing dates and that's too messy in prose. Regardless, I see numerous lists of information that could never be complete on Wikipedia. If it's a policy not to have these, then they should all be removed. It's not like a sentence was reworded or something; it was a major section which listed the components of a place with historical opening/closing dates that was fully sourced which was removed. I do not have the time or interest in contributing to a site with these kinds of ridiculous rules. Having been a message board moderator on several sites, I'm all for common sense rules and keeping things in order. I understand there are tough calls to make. This, however, is not common sense. But, it's your call. It's my call to choose to make my well-sourced contributions elsewhere. Yx7791 (talk) 01:53, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for putting the information back. I appreciate it. The important point is that it is available as it is history for the area. While I believe the list format works better to clearly provide dates and/or other notes where available, I'm certainly interested in seeing someone else's way of doing it in prose, provided the same information can be retained. I will resume contributions as time permits. Yx7791 (talk) 02:02, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

By the way, sorry for confusing you as an admin. I assumed you were and had I realized you were not I would have approached the situation differently. We do have a number of things in common in that I am a conservative, like country music, and am interested in dead malls. Yx7791 (talk) 03:06, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of Avatar: The Last Airbender episodes/archive2

Hi, can you list the notified parties for the above FLRC as described at WP:FLRC? Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 16:23, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Replied on my talk. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:27, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

When I Get Where I'm Going - cover

I don't think this single ever was issued with cover art but I do have an image of the back cover and disc (ebay). Would either of these suffice as a placeholder? Publichall (talk) 03:23, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

    • Paisley's song "Alchohol" does have a cover (similar to the one for "Ticks" but I haven't found a good enough quality scan to use so just leave it blank after the old image is deleted. Publichall (talk) 03:48, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Big Green Tractor

My article on "Big Green Tractor" has been nominated for deletion. There's nothing wrong with it, and it's just like every other song article. The song is moving quick enough up the charts to have an article. Could you please help me save the article? Ryanbstevens (talk) 19:06, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I dont typicaly deal with music articles, but wp:NSONGS seems to direct us not to create articles about specific songs. In any event, the article itself lists the songs peak at #30, hardly a chart burner. If im wrong about my reading of song notability feel free to say so on my talk page, as I said, im new at new page patrolling. Thanks Bonewah (talk) 19:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

The Limited Series (2005 box set)

Albums Box sets are a kind of album; this is not mutually-exclusive. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 19:27, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Dabbing As WP:NCDAB informs us, disambiguations should be "the generic class that includes the topic." E.g. we have How the West Was Won (Led Zeppelin album) rather than How the West Was Won (2003 Led Zeppelin triple live Compact Disc album). Since box sets are a kind of album, unless we need to disambiguate amongst albums, we should use the more generic title. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 20:27, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes That's my understanding: they should be named ...(1998 album) and ...(2005 album), rather than ...(1998 Garth Brooks box set on Columbia Records) or somesuch; use the most generic name you can. E.g. Join Together (1982 album) and Join Together (1990 album). —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 20:31, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Done I moved both. I'm not 100% sure why you wanted me to do it—I don't have special moving privileges—but I'm happy to help. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 21:34, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Bruce Van De Velde

Your speedy was declined on Bruce Van De Velde, the AfD is still running if you'd like to chime in. Gigs (talk) 23:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Spotsylvania Towne Centre

Hey TPH...

You have Spotsylvania Town Centre listed on your main user page as a redlink, but you're missing an 'e' to point to the correct article. There was already something there, but I just overhauled it because it was 99% advert, .5% infobox, and .5% bad lead. It's still a rather spartian article, and the local paper, the Free Lance Star, loves to write about it (www.fredericksburg.com has most of the paper's articles archived) if you want to dig around for more info. I'd remove it from your talk page, but I'm kinda fussy against editing other people's user pages, even if they give the OK. :)

If you want to collaborate on this some more I'd be happy to, but Cafaro has one of the most uninformative websites ever, and the searching/indexing ability of the Free Lance Star isn't much better. I lothe research, so I'm tapping out for now, but I'll gladly write prose if you come up with some good sourced info.

Take care and see 'ya around XfD. Livitup (talk) 16:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

AfD

Hey, thanks for closing. I really need to get into AfD. Sorry for any disruption, I'll try to evaluate better next time. Cheers, ZooFari 19:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of It's Your Song

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Deletion review for List of the Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien episodes

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DYK hook for "Living for the Night"

The article looks good and the hook is almost good. The only minor issue is that there was something added to the article stating that Strait wrote 4 songs for Ace in the Hole. But if you are ok with adding the word "solo" to the hook, it should be good to go. Rlendog (talk) 21:01, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Look at Strait Out of the Box, the first three songs were written by Strait. I think it should be noted in "Living for the Night" that he did in fact write these songs. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 21:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Re:Rollercoaster (Phineas and Ferb) DYK

Hm, I believe I choose that as a second ref because it mentioned the pitch in it. I don't believe anything but the DVD extra mentions it, though there is a podcast interview. I'll check and cite that if it's needed. The Flash {talk} 23:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Can You Hear Me Now?

Just FYI, when you batch-nominate, you have to put the AfD tag on all nominated articles. Thanks, –Juliancolton | Talk 00:24, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK on United Methodist Hymnal

Hi. The hook you wrote for DYK concerning the article, United Methodist Hymnal, is 216 characters. 200 is generally considered the limit; would it be possible to shorten it? Thanks, The Earwig (Talk | Editor review) 03:10, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Pop 100 closed

Starting this week Billboard closed Pop 100 chart. There are some changes in rock genre, and Billboard is not picking up Canadian charts. I know that the chart pages from R&R are still on, but who knows when they will disappear? And the closure of Pop 100 has proven that Pop 100 is not significant - not as important as Hot 100. I think we should drop Pop 100 from discographies, espically country ones. Langdon (talk) 03:48, 11 June 2009 (UTC)i7114080

I did have problems with AC charts before. I wonder why in pop genre, only AC charts can be included. Mainstream actually have more audience and have more impact on Hot 100, but it is forbidden to list it. And I don't know the significance of Pop 100. The only thing I know is that Pop 100 was created for those Pop listeners who complained only R&B songs reached #1 on Hot 100. Also, the chart only represents Pop genre, so why bother listing it if the highest chart entry for a country artist is #90 or lower? Langdon (talk) 04:06, 11 June 2009 (UTC)i7114080
Ok then, I will re-add Hot AC and CHR positions for country artist, since Pop 100 is listed.

Orphaned non-free media (File:Mila sgw.jpg)

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DYK for Walk on Faith

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Disneymania/Sher'quan Johnson Vandal

A SPI is definitely needed. AIV has been very touchy about blocking any of their socks (aka either 'no proof' or 'they haven't vandalized in X hours'), even with proof of the many AfD's that have occured with him over the last seven months. Nate (chatter) 03:50, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry

I replied your talk now. I can not reply that anymore because i online rarely Muhammad Azmi 12:09, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Okie, Let's Figure This Out

You cut out about six Kenny Rogers albums due to them not being considered notable, and in a later comment on my talk page said to look at the label to make a call on an album in the future. I'm now looking at the AllMusic compilation page for Bonnie Tyler. There are too many in the list, so which of these would you consider worth writing an article about?

I'm going to automatically choose any with checkmarks because they are being listed as Album Picks, which tells me they are potentially important inclusions (and obviously reviewed). If any are not (such as the 1996 compilation by Castle - aren't they one of the budget labels?), I'd love to discuss your views on why before I see a future article AfDed. Can you review the list at AllMusic and tell me what you think? The list is at http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:3ifwxqr5ldde~T21 - and thanx. =) Plz reply on your talk page, I'll be refreshing it. CycloneGU (talk) 23:53, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Reply copied from CycloneGU's talk page for reference.
I usually go with the ones that have ratings and/or are on major labels. By that standard, everything before "Love Collection" is good, and from there just skip the ones without star ratings and the CBS ones. I've checked and found that most of the ones without ratings turn up virtually no hits. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 04:01, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
All right, I'm going to then make a point of listing compilation albums under certain conditions, then.
1) As you recommend, skipping without ratings. Already planned this one as well.
2) I need to recognize the label. If the album art looks like a budget CD, I may also use that with the label listed.
3) I will not list ones that AllMusic doesn't have a track listing for. What's the point? If I think one is otherwise important, I'll add it after finding another reference.
4) If it's not reviewed, I question whether it should be added. Thus, I'll skip those for now. I'll make exceptions, though, if it's obviously a major release; see Comeback: Single Collection, '90-'94 for instance, which will be included eventually.
5) If it meets the above criteria, my final criteria is whether I feel like creating it.[/humour] In other words, do I have enough compilations that are more notable compared to this one, etc.
Hopefully this limits the number of compilation albums on the page, we don't need all 24 of those (through 2000 alone, not counting after). I've already cut a couple from my list, one based on the album cover (which resembles a budget CD image and seems to be one of those labels). CycloneGU (talk) 00:26, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

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For this comment. Bearian (talk) 15:14, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
My bad syntax, LOL. Bearian (talk) 15:16, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Feh, I've heard better humour but if he-who-is-verdy-verdy-serius-biznus is making funnies then fine. treelo radda 15:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
That one was Cheyenne's idea. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 15:35, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Heh, I thought it was funny...sounds like something I'd say. Disgusting indeed. CycloneGU (talk) 00:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Protest

This is flat-out wrong, I think you do an excellent job. Tim Vickers (talk) 03:05, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

AfD comment on Cinemagik

Agreed, if sourced then there may be some semblance of keeping the article. But it's not, and if you take a look at the page history, you'll see that it really has been a random listing of programs. SpikeJones (talk) 03:06, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK for It's Your Song

Updated DYK query On June 15, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article It's Your Song, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Giants27 05:28, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

If I Never Stop Loving You

Sure thing! Publichall (talk) 07:00, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

    • I'll add the personnel too Publichall (talk) 07:06, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

DON'T YOU DARE!

Don't you dare try to delete my page! Uncyclopedia has a page for it, and so does Encyclopedia Dramatica. Why delete it? Joe9320 of the Wikipedia Party | Contact the Encyclopedian Embassy 10:00, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

A9

Genius They have a couple other album articles - would you mind tagging/deleting? —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 03:05, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Possibly more From Death in Public: Biometrics (song), Instrumental in Silence, and Death in Public (EP). —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 21:34, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
And again From Enemy Love, Enemy Love (EP). —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 22:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Re:Koopa

Actually, until someone mentioned it in the AfD WP:MUSIC, I had no idea that was a passing factor. Thanks though. Can I close the AfD, could you close it as WP:SNOW, or should I just let it run the course? Paranormal Skeptic (talk) 21:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of that. I'll have to keep in mind a bit more before I AfD something in the future. What are some of the various subject guidelines for Notability I should look over before I AfD anything else? Thanks Paranormal Skeptic (talk) 13:05, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Harikela on AfD

The AfD was created but not listed on the day's logs which I did now. Can you check if it's ok or if I goofed up, since you seem to be the red linked AfD expert? Thanks -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 00:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Re:Phineas and Ferb

Every ref is using the Cite web template. Check again if you don't believe me. The Flash {talk} 01:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean? The Flash {talk} 01:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Ah, so pretty much name the website it's from? Okay. I'll gradually work on that, as due to the exceedingly large backlog on the GA nomination page, it'll take some time for it to be reviewed. Thanks. The Flash {talk} 01:28, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: File:Big Jack Jackson.jpg

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DYK for United Methodist Hymnal

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Ladahachandra

You closed this deletion as SNOW but it is not fit the things it says there so reopen it and the other ones which are Harikela and Govindachandra . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Janc6 (talkcontribs) 10:06, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Heroes Wear Red

Please do not delete "Heroes Wear Red" wikipedia article, that would be extremely upseting. They are a notable band, there exclusive to South Africa. Please leave the article as is, I'm still finding sources.

Ricky.Adams (talk) 12:19, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. They definitely fulfil the criteria for notability in terms of WP:MUSIC. this deletion nomination was premature and incorrect. Please correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.208.40.67 (talk) 10:47, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Family Business (album)

I have replied to your comment. Please read it. Ale_Jrbtalk 18:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

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I'm blaming Gorgy for the break in proceedings, he has been reprimanded suitably under Extraordinary Rendition terms to a place only of my knowledge. treelo radda 19:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Living for the Night

Updated DYK query On June 16, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Living for the Night, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 20:35, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Martina McBride

Of course, they do deserve articles. I will start making pages tonight for them. By the way, if you can find single covers for any major hits by any country artist that doesn't have one, feel free to add them because they are not apparent on most articles and I cannot find any. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 21:49, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, so far I made song articles for "Whatever You Say" and "Love's the Only House." Now's your chance to make song articles for her other Top 10's too. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 23:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I only picked the ones I was more familiar with (I don't know too many Martina McBride songs, except the more current ones). If I do make an article to "Life #9," I will do what you had said, but I might stick with the more recent ones that I'm more familiar with. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 00:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Reactivating Wikipedia:Notability (TV and radio stations)

Since you're a regular at AfD discussions, I thought you might be interested in this discussion I have just initiated. -- Blanchardb -MeMyEarsMyMouth- timed 23:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

AfD on Soviet Union and state terrorism dab page

Please see my note and P.S. on the nomination page. The dab is simpler and neater than hatnotes given the topic. PetersV       TALK 02:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey thanks, I'll use that template from now on. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 17:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, that's been taken care of. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 21:30, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Boo

Yeah, I'm just a bit bored... sorry. :) TubularWorld (talk) 22:08, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I'm bored too. Lost my job two days ago and I also like country music, so I follow you too TPH. That's why I always ask you for advice (or chime in every once in a while, LMAO). =) CycloneGU (talk) 03:27, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

WP:TFD

I'm afraid I feel the need to request that you stop attempting to police WP:TFD and keep your actions there to nominations/discussion. You continue to improperly close discussions using {{Tfd top}} and {{Tfd bottom}}, and have recently relisted a template ({{Invader Zim}}) both incorrectly and for an improper reason. While your eagerness to help out is both admirable and appreciated, it is not necessary. Thank you. JPG-GR (talk) 05:51, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Daryl Jenifer

How come you put in a REDIR without any discussion? Or did I miss something? Wwwhatsup (talk) 10:50, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

LOL, we agreed for once

Feel free to drop by my talk page if you find stuff like that (i.e. that qualifies for bold userfication) and deletion of the leftover bits - to avoid going thru MFD. P.S. You should register User:TPH as a doppel and shortcut - I'm lazy. cheers, –xenotalk 17:49, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Kiss a Girl

Just curious, were you being sarcastic? :) EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 19:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, wow! I thought that "One in a Lifetime" was the worst single he's put out. I kinda like "Kiss a Girl", but I do agree, it's a little too pop. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 19:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Billboard categories

Hello, thanks for adding the Modern Rock → Alternative category rename. I had to read so much of that procedure I almost went cross-eyed, and I'm glad it apparently worked. Other than the two we've proposed, are you aware of any other Billboard charts that were renamed that might affect existing categories? Zephyrnthesky (talk) 01:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Speedy deletion nomination of File:File-Alistairdarling.jpg

Can you please explain why you issued me the above notice? I replied on my talk page if you care to reply there User_talk:Nubiatech#Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_File:File-Alistairdarling.jpg   Nuβiατεch Talk/contrib 11:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Church keyboardist

FWIW, I play keys at church on Sundays as well. If you haven't seen the photo on my user page, take a look.

I'd like to suggest that you refrain from db-tagging articles already under consideration at AFD. It rarely helps. If someone else has already gone to the trouble to list something at AFD, you might find it more effective to comment there.

Also, you might find my talk page amusing. There are several users taking me to task for being such a deletionist. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 03:08, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Organ is a great instrument. Have you seen my collection of open source organ music? The Uninvited Co., Inc. 03:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Take a look at the hymn medley and at the prelude portion of the G minor prelude in the 8. You can leave off the fugue and just play the prelude. My daughter can play it and she's only 10, so you can too. The Brahms chorale is a good one to look at if you don't use pedals, since it does not require them (well, except for one note). The Uninvited Co., Inc. 03:34, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Chiropractic controversy and criticism

...."no one else could be arsed as usual." Actually, you saw I was on it. I am now here to ask you to post the text, as it has now been posted by the ip on his talk page in response to my express offer to create it for him if he provided the text, which would already be done, seamlessly with the text in place, except that now there's no way for me to overwrite your message properly, so you should do it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:39, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

To do this properly I will have to overwrite your post. All it should say is the IP's text, followed by "procedural nomination for Ip___, just as I posted on his talk page. I don't overwrite people's posts without permission. So either you do it, or give me permission. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:45, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Okay, since you seem to be away, I will do so, and assume you will not mind.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

AFD / Deaf Havana

On the AFD page you comment "The above user has yet to prove that said sources exist" What is the best way to prove these sources exist? I have hard copies of the Magazines which I have referenced fully on the page including issue and page numbers. I would like to prove notability for this page, but I am fairly new to wikipedia so could you possibly tell me the steps that I need to take to prove these sources exist, I believed a reference was sufficient? Many Thanks As far as mongolia (talk) 08:20, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Gary Alt (American musician)

Can you take a look at Gary Alt (American musician)? I normally stay away from music/musicians, but this one I thought was a bit straightforward so I PRODded, but it was unPRODded saying that the artist has released several albums. I'm still not convinced, but just wanted to check what you think. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 15:42, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Ron Chancey

Understood dude. It's cool. Izzy007 Talk 16:57, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for fixing my bungled AfD. LuvGoldStar (talk) 18:23, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Rodger Bumpass

He's already in an encyclopedia. In-depth enough? diff Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 08:24, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I've now given the article a cleanup, expansion, and decent sourcing. Might you consider a wirthdrawal? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 09:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Don't you worry none, I'll see what I can do... treelo radda 09:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the supportive input. It was a pleasure to be able to improve it. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 07:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Stephanie Davis

Updated DYK query On June 22, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Stephanie Davis, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Royalbroil 14:36, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Otterathome

While surfing around, I noticed that Otterathome claims that you're one of his/her sockpuppets. It seemed a little fishy to me so I thought I'd let you know. Out of curiosity, is it true? OlYellerTalktome 15:25, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Me and TenPoundHammer are the same person who control a network of user accounts, infact, most of the messages left on this page are actually all the same person.--Otterathome (talk) 17:13, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
This is true. treelo radda 19:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

"Forthcoming"

A while back I searched for "Confirmed tracks". It's a search that is worth doing on occasion. Two even more informative searches that are worth doing on occasion are searches for "Rumoured tracks"/"Rumored tracks". They bring up such doozies as Love, Tweet, which tells innocent readers such as me the mutually contradictory facts that the subject was confirmed as released last year and is scheduled for release this year.

I highly recommend these searches. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 13:20, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

More A9s

Please The Endless (band) and Rolo Tomassi both have a number of albums/singles (almost all of them entirely unsourced and malformed.) They should be simple dbs. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 22:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Tagging I just figured it would be 1.) easier to notify you than tagging all of them, 2.) you could delete them outright instead of me waiting for another sysop to see them, and 3.) it would be less perilous, should someone go around removing db tags and me not notice (which apparently happened when someone decided that the db tag applied to Rolo Tomassi's afd that was too old.) Anyway... —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 20:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh bother I get confused for one as well, I guess because we've been around for years and edited a lot. I've even been asked to arbitrate disputes. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 20:32, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

The Best

This Bonnie Tyler album is confusing me. I have a torrent source referencing one version of the album, released in the U.K. I have an eBay seller's page referencing the other, from France. They have the same artwork and the same title, hence why I've placed them together. What do you think? The Best Bonnie Tyler is the other page that has the U.K. edition, and I'm considering deletion of it (already took it off the discography NEway as it's not from 1994, but 1993). The fact that neither page on Wikipedia was sourced or even had an infobox to start with made this album very confusing to edit.

I also noticed a discussion on your talk page regarding Rodger Bumpass's article and clicked the article out of interest. I noticed no free image on it. I found this: http://en.spongepedia.bimserver.com/index.php?title=Image:Rodger_Bumpass.jpg It's another "pedia" site, do you think it would suffice for encyclopedia purposes if we also upload it here, or would it still be violationary? CycloneGU (talk) 13:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

That wiki is terrible if you want to use content, there's no licensing information and there's no sources for images so it's little more than a convoluted fansite, no good to us here. For biographies, it's generally accepted to use free images over non-free ones if the subject is still alive, given this image doesn't look too free (and is tiny to boot) I'd give it a miss. treelo radda 14:02, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
I realize the sources are not considered valid sources, but the pages had already been created a year ago by someone and I am not sure myself of the information. Whoever added them listed the album as having a certification; if true, it should be easy to find. I unfortunately don't know [much] French and thus can't execute a proper search for things like certifications. I did find one of the albums on the French site, however, and could reference that for the tracklist. If you have an idea on where to go to find certifications in the meanwhile, treelo, feel free; if the information already provided is in fact false, I have no issue over the page being removed if necessary (I'm just using what I can find, that matches the information, to spruce it up as I'm currently working on Tyler's discography). I had a hard time looking for the #4 peak on the French charts, in fact, and both pages that existed for The Best listed that as the peak (see the other above, that one I already think I'll request deleted). The English chart I haven't verified yet (it was already there on the other page, I moved it to the combined page). As for Bumpass's image; isn't Spongepedia similar to Wikipedia? It even has a domain starting with "en." like we do. The only thing I can't see is information on the license to the image. CycloneGU (talk) 15:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
It looks like Secondarywaltz found a source that is valid for the U.K. version. I found one on last.fm (which is on his talk page; I will omit it here to avoid cluttering this discussion) that combines BOTH albums into one page; quite confusing, but proof that the other tracklist is valid as well. CycloneGU (talk) 17:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Copied from CycloneGU's page.
Hmm. They most likely are the same album. I'd say play it safe and merge. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 17:08, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Done. I actually speedied the unnecessary page just before you replied; now to see it away...=) BTW, how was your vacation? CycloneGU (talk) 17:22, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Was fun. Saw a river otter at the Chicago zoo, stayed at a ratty Howard Johnson's, went to a rather strangely laid-out mall, walked my tail off at Navy Pier... and found out the hard way that I-94 through Chicagoland is in a permanent state of traffic jam. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 17:37, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Since you're the expert..........to me anyway

And music isn't really my strong suit, would you please take a look at these two articles about upcoming albums and see if they are candidates for AfD? As I see them, they haven't been sourced by WP:RS's, but mainly by the artists website and myspace. I don't mind being bold and nominating, but I'd prefer not to waste people's time if I'm doing it because I misunderstood the criteria: The Art of Dying (Cashis album) and Euthanasia LP. Also, do you consider charting at 106 on Billboard to meet the criteria? Thanks in advance. Niteshift36 (talk) 23:42, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

  • The one charting at #106 is that same artists first album. But there is also a claim about being #37 on the Heatseekers chart, but I don't know if that is considered notable enough or not. Thanks a lot of your input. Niteshift36 (talk) 00:05, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sisu (2nd nomination)

Please take back your nomination, see WP:BEFORE. Bearian (talk) 18:43, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey (again)

I'm still working on Bonnie Tyler; so far I'm up to and starting 1996, amidst my constant job search (lost my job a week and a half ago due to "overstaffing", which really sucks). I almost wrote a new article for "The Very Best of Bonnie Tyler (1996)" and caught myself suddenly when I found out that AllMusic - as with other artists - has two identical albums with two release dates that are exactly the same. Kind of an annoyance, aye. *LOL* One source said 1995 with the image that AllMusic has in the 1996 one, but the giants at AM have the 1995 album with no image and the same tracklist - plenty of giveaway there, makes you wonder who to believe nowadays.

BTW, these same giants have Jo Dee Messina as a performer on a 1956 CD which happens to contain an original version of "Burn", a single from her third CD in 2000. The humorous thing is that she was born in 1970. I'll watch to see if they ever fix that, I reported it. Look under Credits on her page, they haven't fixed it as of this msg. I even sent her a msg. on MySpace about it in case she gets a chuckle out of it. (Also, staying with the giants, the Kenny Rogers album Short Stories - I reported errors with it twice dating back to November 2008. They still haven't fixed it. Gotta love the giants. My editor's note remains on the article page.) CycloneGU (talk) 04:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

RE: Parkway Drive

Those articles pass WP:Songs, and furthermore, when redirecting so for future notice, you are supposed to link the redirect to the album it's from NOT the artist's article. - GunMetal Angel 01:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

User:Cappiello Lorenzo (cantautore)

User:Cappiello Lorenzo (cantautore) might interest you, and his article Io, la gente e il mondo (Lorenzo Cappiello EP), Ian Spackman (talk) 10:00, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Personnel

Hi.

Ok, ok, Allmusic is the best source for that material, you are right on the capitals issue, my bad but if your argument is that people can`t understand bckgr as background, is not enough, now i agree on making sure not more "musician" o "band member" comes up, but sorry, is not that i want to do things my way, is just that i don`t see that big of a problem. Zidane tribal (talk) 05:38, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah is neater, don`t worry, i`ll make the proper changes sccord to the manual of style from here on. Zidane tribal (talk) 17:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Signature

Did you recently change your signature? It seems like there were previously only two things in parentheses, not the current three. Nyttend (talk) 16:22, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

He did. See the "Country Music" topic on my talk page for the old one. CycloneGU (talk) 02:10, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

The Greatest Hits Collection III (Unofficial)

I got rid of the information on the Brooks & Dunn biography page saying that they were releasing a third greatest hits album, as it was unsourced. Since it was unsourced, and an unestablished user put it there, i got rid of it. Was that right? Ryanbstevens (talk) 23:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

it must have wandered off under the table...

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Remember how I said before that there'd be a barnie in it for you should you manage to corral the Zim articles? Guess what. treelo radda 23:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/OxiClean (2nd nomination)

Hi TPH—I'm trying to AGF on this nomination, but it doesn't appear that you did sufficient diligence in determining whether the topic is notable. The deletion criterion isn't "article doesn't demonstrate notability of the topic", but "topic is not notable". Some amount of burden is on the nominator. I would suggest you withdraw the nomination. Bongomatic 03:14, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I did do a search for sources, but all I was finding was press releases. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 03:17, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I recommend the Google news archive search under all dates. The "All dates" option is tricky, and its availability depends on what country you are in. When you first do the news search if you don't see the "All dates" link on the left, you may need to remove the country-specific top-level domain from the url manually. If it's still not available, then re-search (web, not news) the term you want, and then click "News" at the top and try again to remove the country-specific TLD from the url. (If you have modified the search in any way from the initial news search under the original TLD, removing the TLD will not cause the "All dates" option to reappear.) Bongomatic 03:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Should you wish to reply, please do so here. I will watch this page for a few days, so no {{talkback}} or other comment on my talk page is required.
Huh, that's exacty what I did, too. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 03:45, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hey, Hammer, I'm trying to assume good faith too, but come on--how could you nominate this? THE AMERICAN METROSEXUAL 03:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I find it ironic that you would nominate OxiClean for being "not notable" by using a spoof of the sales pitch with the expectation that most people would recognize it. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 13:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

User vandalism on on of your nominations

FYI, a COI editor removed your AfD notice on the article The Art of Dying (Cashis album). I restored it. Based on his sabotage of the AfD process in that article and his repeated removal of the WP:SPS tag in the article on the artist, I posted the incident to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#. Niteshift36 (talk) 13:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Okie

Now I get to ask your help. Staying with Bonnie Tyler, I'm trying to find The Love Collection, which is her biggest album in terms of a compilation, even bigger than The Definitive Collection in terms of number of tracks (though not as time-covering as the former). AllMusic doesn't have a rating for it, and the Amazon product page has user reviews - not the official one, but user reviews - stating that it's the best album ever, etc. as far as Tyler goes. That page also doesn't have track times, which are the item that is eluding me.

How should I handle this album? I haven't done much to the page yet (since I might end up having to kill this one), but if you can find a source that would be most useful, I'd use it. So far my requests for the track times from the CD itself have gone unanswered, but maybe I can get an eBay seller to read them off to me...if that copy isn't sealed, that is... CycloneGU (talk) 03:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Got your reply. I was wondering if an Amazon selling page is enough reference. What do you think of this as a source? No times tho. CycloneGU (talk) 02:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Fair enough, I never created that one so it's not a problem for me. I was just wondering what you thought about the album's listing, since I couldn't find coverage myself. =) CycloneGU (talk) 06:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Sara Evans' band

I actually wasn't the one who added that, but I think I could bullet it and change it to "Evans" not "Sara". I don't know how I could find a reference to it, it doesn't seem like something really referenceable... but I know that its correct info because I've seen her perform live and she introduced everyone in her band. CloversMallRat (talk) 04:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I've found a link to her introducing her band while performing "Coalmine" like she usually does. CloversMallRat (talk) 20:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Kentucky Headhunters

You did a great job on the Kentucky Headhunters's article, I just thought I should tell you that =) Dottiewest1fan (talk) 04:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

  • You're welcome. Greg Martin was very helpful. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 05:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
I've been working on Trisha Yearwood's article, but seems there are no free images of her anywhere and I mean everywhere. Its really unfortunate because pretty much all of the other female singers have free images and she doesn't. You probably don't know of this, but just to be sure, do you know of any free-licensed images of Yearwood? Dottiewest1fan (talk) 22:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Celebrity death hoax

Please remove the CSD tag. There is an RFC in progress on this page. Manning (talk) 17:40, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Regarding your comment here, I received that as being uncivil. Please note the instruction on the article page to see the talk page, and then read the lengthy RFC comments. Manning (talk) 17:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
My reasons for brevity were clearly laid out in the RFC. Manning (talk) 17:48, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

List of fictional deer

I know it's somewhat silly, but I thought you might be interested to see what I've done with the article "List of fictional deer", which you helped to save from "nominated for deletion". Ironically, I had nothing to do with the article until then. I hope you enjoy it. --AuthorityTam (talk) 20:58, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

References

Ugh, I hate to do this to you...but remember when I tried to get Billy Ray Cyrus discography to FL? Well one of the things was fixing the references with {{cite web}}, it still hasn't been done and I'm so afraid to do it. That's a big ass job to do, too...so, basically what I'm trying to say is, would you wanna help me? Like you take half and I'll take the other half? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 03:35, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Haha, well thanks! Sick, huh? I might start on this tomorrow sometime, just to let you know. It's too late to start something huge. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 03:44, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
What spaces? It's making me so mad! EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 18:41, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh! I would never have thought of that! The Some Gave All ones didn't get fixed, though. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 18:50, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Re:P&F

Alright, thanks. I'll start doing that - some of them generally don't have authors/published dates (mostly just the IMDb ones) but all of them are able to have accessdate. Thanks for helping me with this, BTW. The Flash {talk} 18:10, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

A note...

If you're thinking of asking DragonflySixtyseven to lock up the Chowder articles, now's as good a time as any other. treelo radda 18:32, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Huh, figured you'd have said something by now. treelo radda 23:13, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
I tried asking some people on IRC but nobody thought it was bad enough. The only offending IP is blocked now. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 23:44, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Which seems weird because the last time a semi-prot got plonked on those articles there wasn't much then and always the same admin. Guess people have simply gone off the idea of adding nothing to the articles these days though now there's also people just going totally apoplectic about scheduling (again) which can and will affect more than simply Chowder. treelo radda 12:45, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Multiple/single entry for songs

As somebody who appears to be interested in song articles I thought you might like to have a look at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Songs/coverversions and make known your feelings on the matter. Regards. --Richhoncho (talk) 11:54, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Any ideas for sources?

Do you have any suggestions for sources for Number One songs in Canada or the U.S. in the 1990s? Anything besides allmusic. If any, please let me know. Martin4647 (talk) 23:45, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I mean like, reviews, sources for critical reception and stuff like that. Martin4647 (talk) 02:00, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

William Parente

It's been a few months and nothing notable has happened. --Alchaenist (talk) 17:03, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

To Say Goodbye

Is this you? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 16:09, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Apparently so, people add his reviews on Roughstock as they do for say... oh, Billboard album reviews, that I do not understand. treelo radda 16:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I'm writing for Roughstock now. I don't write for Billboard yet, but you never know. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 17:56, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I do and doubt you will but as you say, you never know and hopefully nobody will notice your ottery ghostwriters either. treelo radda 18:05, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Good for you! I'm happy for you. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 22:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Spotlight relaunch

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Some users have decided to try and relaunch the spotlight project, and I am informing all users that were on the previous list of participants.

We thought that, rather than discuss it, it would be more effective to simply start, and try to make it work again. Therefore, we are currently working on an article.

Anyone is welcome to get involved, so please come to the #wikipedia-spotlight channel on the freenode IRC network (see the IRC tutorial for help with IRC). You can get instant access using freenode webchat.

 Chzz  ►  17:21, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Colt Ford

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Speedy deletion nomination of Meridian Mall

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Speedy deletion nomination of Lansing Mall

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Articles for deletion nomination of Lansing Mall

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Articles for deletion nomination of Meridian Mall

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meridian Mall

Why make a note of it? I don't understand...- CobaltBlueTony™ talk 17:22, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Bon Jovi

For God's sake, do you think a #1 country song only reached #107 on the Hot 100? On Hot 100 because there are 2 version of that song, so they just removed Nettles' credit on Hot 100, just like they removed Chesney's credit for the song "Every Other Weekend". Langdon (talk) 18:07, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

see this page, the duet version was released to country radio first, then when the solo version debuted on Hot Adult Top 40 chart, Nettles' credit was removed. Langdon (talk) 18:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

ANI

When you open the discussion of a user (such as Hell in a Bucket) at ANB or AN/I, please notify them. Even they have have treated past notices in an impolite manner. For one thing it's only fair, for another we want them to see what we have to say about them. DGG (talk) 19:30, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

sorry, probably he removed it along with the other complaints. (it helps to say you did at thee ANB or AN/I ) I'm going to try to watch him more closely. DGG (talk)
A little trigger happy are we? I wasn't avoiding your questions at all. I am going camping and had to go to walmart not once but twice to get all the materials I needed. To be quite honest the fact that you were willing to go to Ani over something that petty is laughable. Now that being said I will happily answer your question. The malls aren't notable. This is my own opinion only but just because they exist doesn't give them notability. I could write about a local mom and pop butcher story that Recently had an article in The Pueblo Chieftain. Does it make them notable, certainly not. The great mall in minnesota i believe is notable,. It's a world class mall, these aren't even in the same ball park. I sympathize because I do live in a smaller town and undersrtand the wwant to make others aware about it. Is anyone going to remember Franks Meat Market in Pueblo Colo in 100 years? No, the same holds true to your malls. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 22:04, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Joey (song)

Updated DYK query On July 10, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Joey (song), which you recently nominated. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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About reading "carefully"

First of all, you shouldn't have reinstated the Trashwomen speedy after I removed it, given my point about the rejection of my speedy nomination of the article yesterday.

Second, although you declared in your edit summary that I hadn't read the article "carefully," the editor who wasn't reading carefully would be you. I was careful to point out in my comment today that the notable label involved wasn't mentioned in the article, which makes your discussion of the article text pointless. The admin who reviewed my speedy nom yesterday did better research than I did or you did. Estrus Records. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 17:24, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

The Kentucky Headhunters GA review

Hi TPH. I just wanted to let you know that I've reviewed The Kentucky Headhunters and put it on hold. You can see my concerns at the review page. Timmeh 03:11, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Discography question

Since you are my "go to guy" for music questions: At what point does an artist merit a discography article? I nominated Cashis discography for deletion because the guy really only has released one album and a bunch of stuff that didn't chart. He has supposedly been a "featured performer" on some songs that did chart (Don't get me started on the who rap "featured performer thing) etc. Am I on the right track or am I totally misunderstanding what qualifies for a discography article? Niteshift36 (talk) 04:23, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

    • So, if I understand you correctly, nominating the Cashis discography isn't out of line in your opinion since the artist article is pretty short and he really has little in the way of releases, correct? Niteshift36 (talk) 16:23, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. You've been a help as always. Niteshift36 (talk) 17:30, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Grapefruit—Juicy Fruit

Thanks for redirecting that article to the album article. Your change was reverted and I reverted it back. The editor in question left me a nice "why cant you just leave this article alone" message to which I replied "why cant you provide the required sources to show its notability". Might be worth keeping an eye on and protecting if necessary.--RadioFan (talk) 14:38, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

The creator of this article has reverted it again, I dont want to reach the 3RR. Could you redirect it again?--RadioFan (talk) 20:20, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Wal-Mart (disambiguation) at DR

Just letting you know that the discussion for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wal-Mart (disambiguation) (3rd nomination) has been listed for deletion review at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 July 15. You may be interested in commenting.Tatterfly (talk) 14:03, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Number 1's... and Then Some

Why can't we just redirect this page like you did with Justin Moore (album) (Which i undid the redirect on because i found a track listing)? Ryanbstevens (talk) 19:34, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

I've redirected it. Ryanbstevens (talk) 19:49, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Loan me your eyes

I am considering going live with User:MichaelQSchmidt/sandbox/National Fibromyalgia Association. I'm feeling pretty good about 10 hours of work. Please take a look and advise of any concerns. Thank you, MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 08:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Pictures

I was at a Blake Shelton and Aaron Tippin concert last night and got quite a few great pictures of them both. I was wondering if you think either one of them could use any new pictures some place in their articles? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 21:12, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

What do I do about the summary for them, though? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 23:04, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, the summary below the picture after it's uploaded. Like the author, permission, etc. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 01:39, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
That's probably be the easiest thing to do. Should I go ahead and upload them, and you can decide if they're good enough to use. Now that I looked close enough, the only good picture I got of Aaron is a little bit blurry from a lady next to me hit my elbow while I was taking it. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 18:04, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Okay, this one, this one, and this one. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 18:19, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Feel not down, my friend...

Besides, I'm not that upset you'd put my article on the Snow Cap in Seligman up for deletion. :) Ah, but seriously: I should've put more inline citations, sources and such. I was going to when I nominated it for DYK, but I went on wikibreak. The reviewer said the same thing about the lack of sources. Keep yon otters chirping. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:23, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Categories

You once told me to ask before creating a new category. Where and who should i ask? Ryanbstevens (talk) 22:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

I got three words here:

Just drop it. Otterathome is a nuisance. Joe9320 of the Wikipedia Party | Contact the Embassy 08:32, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Craig Bickhardt

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Wayne Massey

I'm very happy that you have created a page for Wayne Massey, however user:Cindy1000 consistently continues to add B-sides to his singles chart. The user has also added a very large (and unimportant) B-side table for Charly McClain's discography. According to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies/style, B-sides should be avoided on a discography. I tried to explain this to her, however it seems that she says she didn't like Wiki's policies. I cannot straighten this out it seems and she keeps reverting my edits on both discographies. Can you help me solve this dilemma? 18:42, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Crap, I can't believe I forgot to sign my name well that never happens, sorry! I think you mean an administrator right? Ok well I think I will do that you don't have to get involved thanks! Dottiewest1fan (talk) 21:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Hey you guys... Have a heart... The b-side issue is being debated on the proposed discography policy page and there are very good arguments in favor of allowing this information. There is certainly no harm. It is not true that I simply don't like Wiki policies. This is not a policy, it is a guideline and Wiki encourages challenges to guidelines. There are in fact several pages of other artists that include this info. I honestly believe that this is pertinent and sought after information. Dottiewest1fan, you deem it unimportant, but that is your opinion and it is not shared universaly. TenPoundHammer, I too am very happy that you have created a page for Wayne Massey and you know how much I have contributed to it. (Cindy10000 (talk) 21:41, 22 July 2009 (UTC)).
I just left the following response to you on my talk page and repeat it here because I don't know if you get responses left on another user's page. Please consider.
"Yes, B-sides are much harder to source. All the more reason to compile the information. In time, this info will be lost if not documented. I happen to have original copies of all the 45RPM records in question and so know the info to be absolutely factual. (I can scan them for you to prove it) Accuracy is extremely important to me and so is completeness. By the way, it is not correct that there not other pages that include b-sides, because there are. I would hate to see those deleted and other people who went to the effort to compile the information upset too. Also, as I stated in another communication, the guidelines are not policy. There has been and is current discussion on this topic going on. (Cindy10000 (talk) 22:04, 22 July 2009 (UTC))." (Cindy10000 (talk) 22:13, 22 July 2009 (UTC)).

you and the menagerie, come here...

Drake Bell discography (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs|views)

Not specifically asking your advice because I know this discog is pointless, the musician might be notable but his music doesn't seem to be by enough and it's created by a well known dumb kiddie vandal so yeah... Anyway, what I do want you to do is basically do my dirty work and push it along to AfD because I'm unable to state just how this article is flawed in a way which doesn't read as being based on some bad guy doing it and me not liking it much. I looked hard through every single policy and guideline related to musical notability but came up empty. treelo radda 14:42, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

You couldn't just redirect it like I did? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 14:50, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
You couldn't have replied here like I did? Well, OK, I'm very lazy and a redirect just seemed... like not much more than a blanking. S'alright though, all is cool for now but just be careful keep an eye on it should it return to an article... xe's a sneaky one! treelo radda 14:56, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Waldo Grade

Why did you remove the link? --Stepheng3 (talk) 17:10, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting the situation. --Stepheng3 (talk) 17:21, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Sony BMG discography

I noticed that you successfully nominated for deletion the "Atlatic Records discography" page created by user Mrgreen520. Now I need your help with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sony BMG discography (2nd nomination), a much more ludicrous page created by the same user! Imperatore (talk) 20:21, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Definitely a lot worse than the atlantic page. At least atlantic is a single label/operation, what can we say about sony bmg as a parent company with hundreds of labels and operations in 75+ countries? Imperatore (talk) 21:12, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
This user is on a roll, creating so called discography pages for a variety of other labels, label groups and parent companies. What angers me the most is that these pages are blatant vandalism; he puts in brackets the labels/companies behind the releases, and they have no association to the page of the label he's created. This user needs to be dealt with under a vandalism context accordingly (I'm not familiar with user warnings and such). Imperatore (talk) 22:09, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
User has now been reported at WP:ANI. Imperatore (talk) 15:53, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

A Good Day

I've noticed you still haven't done a review for this song yet. Urgg.. :) EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 19:23, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I saw it now! Thanks. I really enjoyed that review, you didn't bash him like most losers (critics) do. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk)

August 2009

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DYK for Toes (song)

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Atlantic Records discography

Hi! What's up with Atlantic Records discography? The article was kept as the result of both AfDs, and as a response you turn it into a redirect and nominate it at RfD? Don't you think that's a little inappropriate way to get the article deleted? Jafeluv (talk) 12:31, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi! It looks like someone reverted you and restored the article. Would you mind withdrawing the RfD as no longer relevant? Thanks, Jafeluv (talk) 08:41, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
I would recommend keeping the RfD open, since myself and one other user have !voted for the page to turn back into a redirect. Either that, or re-list it at RfD based on consensus from the AfD. --Bsay@CSU[ π ] 19:32, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Well, since RfD is for discussing redirects, and the page in question is an article rather than a redirect, the correct place to discuss it would be AfD. The fact that the nominator turned the article into a redirect before listing it does not change the fact that we're discussing deleting an article, not undoing a redirect. Jafeluv (talk) 09:48, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Geffen Records discography

I have listed Geffen Records discography for Deletion along the same lines as your other discography nominations. --Bsay@CSU[ π ] 20:33, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

E1 Music

Another culprit: E1 Music discography. Of particular note for Koch and E1 is to stress the distribution-only component in the nomination. It looks like this is the last one. Imperatore (talk) 21:30, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

HAMMER classics

You think Chamillionaire's third studio album is sort of thing you wrote WP:HAMMER for, but take a look at Glasvegas studio album II ! Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:51, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Stones River Mall

I am not sure exactly where you are getting your information from, but I would say that something in your research is missing. A broad statement like " the theater was never completed" is too broad for the information that you did find. I don't have any paper documentaion showing the theater was ever there, but I do remember hanging out there as a kid and even going on my first date there in the summer of 1994. You should get your facts straight before you post them.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngallina (talkcontribs) 10:35, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Atlantic Records discography again

Hello. I'm getting increasingly puzzled by your behaviour regarding this article. The first two AFD's both resulted in a consensus for Keep, the first after you withdrew the nomination, the second with a clear consensus for keeping. Despite a lack of consensus for doing so you then redirected the article to Atlantic Records and listed the redirect at RFD, with no mention there that this is a long-standing article that had been redirected by yourself shortly before listing it there. You then opened a third AFD for the article in which you claimed "Previous AFDs resulted in redirect", which is patently untrue and misleading. You are perfectly entitled to a view that this article shouldn't exist, but this project works by accepting community consensus - I don't understand why you are unwilling to accept consesnsus on this issue and why you appear to be behaving so disruptively.--Michig (talk) 08:26, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I have never seen consensus for a label discography to be deleted, so long as it's a notable label. The Sony BMG one wasn't a label discography, it was including records distributed by the Sony BMG company and was never going to work. Atlantic Records is a different kettle of fish, and there are plenty of other label discographies out there that are encyclopedic and in good shape, e.g. Creation Records discography and Island Records discography. Since a book has been published (in several editions) cataloguing the Atlantic Records releases, I think we can assume that a good, well-sourced article is possible here, and since this information has been documented in a published work elsewhere, I don't think it can be argued that it would be unencyclopedic. Don't take the Sony BMG one as consensus to go deleting label discographies willy-nilly. --Michig (talk) 19:56, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
See the talk page (Talk:Atlantic Records discography) - I've listed three sources found from a quick search, which should help to expand and source the article enormously. As for labels distributed by a bigger label/company (as opposed to sub-labels, which are common), I would exclude them and go for a separate list (if justified re. notability of label, etc.) with a pointer from the main label's discog.), but that's just my view. --Michig (talk) 20:05, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm Alive

What I did really didn't add any length to the intro at all, it just added the references so that the need to repeat everything was eliminated. CloversMallRat (talk) 16:32, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I've never heard that... I see references in leads all the time. Makes no sense to me why not. CloversMallRat (talk) 16:47, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Boy Like Me

Thanks for the smaller cover =) CloversMallRat (talk) 16:47, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

poke

  • pokes it with a stick* you alive? Yngvarr (t) (c) 14:22, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Ow. Yes. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 16:16, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Why haven't you been around us recently? treelo radda 19:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Haven't been touching the cartoon articles as much. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 19:07, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
We're not that much fun anymore then? Aw, com'mon! treelo radda 19:12, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
You are. Summer heat melts my brain. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 19:13, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but nothing numbs the brain quite like battling the ocean of inane trivia that just keeps washing up, like so much flotsam on the beach. Yngvarr (t) (c) 19:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
(ec) Not enough to slow his edit rate in other... lesser areas I see. Anyway, come play, Yng may have ideas. treelo radda 19:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Go ahead, give me something. I just can't seem to find any more Invader Zim sources, and Chowder is tough to google. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 19:35, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Na, you just need to google that magic. Or magic the google? [37], [38], [39], or [40]. There's been some new (to me) verbiage at Wikipedia:Reliable_source_examples#Popular_culture_and_fiction which suggests that certain blogs may not be considered unreliable, so it might be worth it. Dunno. Yngvarr (t) (c) 19:49, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Sam Cooke

I just had to say thank you for this glorious edit. I've been trying to build up the courage to delete that utter crap section for the longest time but I kept wussing out. Kudos to you! Pinkadelica 03:14, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Marc's

Please read my response at the AFD. Nyttend (talk) 19:54, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

CM images

I saw your list. http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/fist.php?doit=1&language=en&project=wikipedia&data=American+country+music+groups&datatype=categories&params[catdepth]=2&params[random]=50&params[ll_max]=5&params[commons_max]=5&params[flickr_max]=5&params[include_flickr_id]=1&params[picasa_max]=5&params[wts_max]=5&params[gimp_max]=5&params[esp_max]=5&params[ab_max]=5&params[geograph_max]=5&params[forarticles]=noimage&params[lessthan_images]=3&params[default_thumbnail_size]=&params[jpeg]=1&params[png]=1&params[gif]=1&params[svg]=1&params[ogg]=1&params[min_width]=80&params[min_height]=80&params[output_format]=out_html&sources[languagelinks]=1&sources[commons]=1&sources[flickr]=1 tool can make finding images pretty fast and easy. I was going to try and do some, but my crappy internet connection made uploading the image for Barefoot Manner take about 15 minutes (plus I guess there's problems with the toolserver, so the fastest way isn't working). Anyways, you've probably already seen the tool, but with a fast connection and some practice you can do about 10-15 images an hour. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 05:10, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for letting me know. I nominated it. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 18:25, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Shea Fisher

Ok, no problem. I don't know a whole lot about the Australian charts. Thanks for letting me know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gilliganfanatic (talkcontribs) 22:27, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Terri Clark

I have a question.. you're aware that My Next Life wasn't released, correct? Well since it wasn't, and "Dirty Girl" and "In My Next Life" are on her new live album, should the album name be changed to Terri Clark Live: Road Rage? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 22:39, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I was just checking. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 14:08, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

AfD socks

Hi TenPoundHammer - I was in the midst of writing you a note to see what could be done regarding the obvious socking at the Bob Taggart AfD when I saw that you filed an SPI. Thank you most sincerely for the effort, perhaps now I can actually follow cogent arguments on the page without constant interruptions and edit conflicts. Cheers, --ponyo (talk) 17:59, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for this TPH. His comment saying "what did he ever do to you" did make me laugh though. Lugnuts (talk) 18:02, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

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Be Here

What is the alternative cover adding to the article? If it's so important, why is it not discussed in the article prose? J Milburn (talk) 16:01, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

No, I can't see anything. You can hardly use original research to justify the use of a non-free image, and the fact it is now described in the prose surely means it is even less needed. Honestly, ask yourself whether the article is significantly improved by that cover. I can't see why it is. J Milburn (talk) 16:05, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
There are people who will fight to keep anything non-free. If you think it's worth it, go for it, I'm not going to fight about it, as someone will happily swoop in to make my job Hell. I'm certainly not posting it on a noticeboard, as it will be the same nonsense it always is. I believe the current guidance based on no policy at all is to use an alternative cover if it is significantly different, and has been widely distributed. As I say, I have no idea why that suddenly makes it significant enough to compromise our free content goals, and I can't wait to see the article in which about ten covers are justified because of that... J Milburn (talk) 16:14, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

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Rich Shapero

thanks for the more creative solutions at his article and associated articles, i forgot about redirects (still new here by my standards).Mercurywoodrose (talk) 18:31, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

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L-men of the year

Thanks for catching the parent had been deleted. I did find it odd that no parent existed but could not find an indication that such an article had existed. --Cameron Scott (talk) 18:31, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Categories for artist's albums

Hi, TPH. When creating categories for artists albums, and the artist's name is a disambiguation – e.g. Jim Smith (musician) – do you know if the category should be Category:Jim Smith albums or Category:Jim Smith (musician) albums. Because, do you know what? I haven't got a clue! :) – B.hoteptalk• 11:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Jake

Yeah, the "by the gay community" is important in that sentence. DS (talk) 13:29, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

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Canadian singles

I have split most of what was in Category:Number-one singles in Canada - how do we get this finished? Rich Farmbrough, 21:19, 24 August 2009 (UTC).

Most just say "was number 1 in Canada". I put a request on the cat. Also I found a couple that only made number 4.... Rich Farmbrough, 00:31, 25 August 2009 (UTC).

Question

Could you please address my question at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_August_21#Category:Music_videos_directed_by_Deaton-Flanigen? Debresser (talk) 15:26, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

That is, if there was a period when the the videos were producted by Deaton-Flanigen without the word "Productions", then that would be a problem. If not, then I agree completely. Debresser (talk) 15:37, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Can I ask you a question?

I'm confused. How does the GA system work? After the nominations, what happens? (I know what basicly happens, but I would like to know what's past that) Cheers, Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 22:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Radney Foster & Co.

Hello, I just made articles for all 4 Foster & Lloyd albums and was wondering if I should create a wimpy template for just them or should I add them to Radney Foster's template.. good day, Publichall (talk) 03:18, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

As I haven't plagued anyone with puns lately.

"Silly boxes that the otters won't let me get rid of"
You really otter get those otter there.
Ok not really, just an excuse for otterly awful puns.
- sinneed (talk) 19:40, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

  • A good pun is its own reword. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 20:49, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Drive-by tagging on Jeopardy!

Please don't bother to return to an edit war over banner tags on this article. If you have issues with the article, be bold and make the changes, or discuss them on the talk page. Drive-by tagging isn't useful, I don't agree that the practice of placing such tags has consensus on the encyclopedia, and to the contrary, such practice is contentious. Robert K S (talk) 21:32, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

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Re: Trisha Yearwood Top 40 Hit

Hi! You posted a message on my talk page about the date Trisha Yearwood peaked. The Billboard Book of Top 40 Hits lists the date the song reached the Top 40, not the date it peaked. In this case, it reached top 40 on July 12, 1997. I'll add it there as a guess, with a sidenote. Holiday56 (talk) 08:50, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Apache (The Shadows song)

Hi! I'm curious as to why you moved Apache (instrumental) to Apache (The Shadows song) back in 2008. Was this based on any discussion, or guidance? It seems to me that, as the band did not write the song, as the Jørgen Ingmann version is the one best known to many (US) readers, and as the Incredible Bongo Band version (by Michael Viner who has recently died, hence my inquiry) is now also at least as well known to many readers, the title Apache (instrumental) (in parallel to, say, Popcorn (instrumental)), would be preferable. What is your view? Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:37, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

PS: I've now found this guidance, which states "When a track is not strictly a song (in other words a composition without lyrics, or an instrumental that is not a cover of a song), disambiguation should be done using (composition) or (instrumental)." Would you object to it being moved back? Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:32, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
PPS. No response, and WP:NAME seems clear, so I've moved it back. Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:44, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Reba McEntire

Hey, I just wanted to get some other opinions on my work. I completley rewrote Reba McEntire's article, beginning last Sunday and I finally finished it today, with tons of references and biographical information. What do you think of it? Dottiewest1fan (talk) 03:02, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Lol silly, there already is a section on her "musical styles". Didn't you see it (or is not good enough)? Do you think it will make GA status I never imagined that to be possible. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 04:42, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Awesome! I seriously thought the section sucked lol and that's why you didn't notice it. GA really? If so, could you help me with that sometime? Dottiewest1fan (talk) 04:47, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok, well if you could just give me the link to the GA site so I can nominate the article. Who knows, maybe it will be a featured article in the future, I mean it's at the perfect time, with her new album out. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 05:06, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Would it seriously be a burden if you did for me? You seem to have more experience, since you got the Diamond Rio discography to FA status. I am mainly worried that the article doesn't have any music samples. I would add them if I knew how to, if they're required for GA, I will do it. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 05:13, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Thank you! Dottiewest1fan (talk) 20:11, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

I added a reference to the film section, from Internet Movie Database, the best source around. Anything else? Dottiewest1fan (talk) 22:27, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

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time for Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/TenPoundHammer 7?

  • This has been on my mind for a while. I always thought you got kind of a raw deal, and some users seem determined to perpetually oppose you, but is it maybe time for another run at it? See, I remember numerous interactions with you when I was new user, and you were always very helpful. Now, I am a newly minted admin myself, and somehow it rubs me the wrong way that you've been shot down so many times and I got the bit after only two tries. Surely, no one could claim now that it's "too soon" since number six closed over a year ago. A quick survey of your recent talk doesn't reveal any nasty drama, you have a hell of a lot of edits,(I think I almost made WikiChecker crash by asking it to analyze all of your edits[41]) and your edits are heavily weighted in article space. Combined with all the DYKs you seem to have racked up, I'm having a hard time finding any obvious "ship sinking" issues that would cause another crash and burn. I'm not sure I'm the one to write up a nom, there are probably better people for that who have worked directly with you more extensively, but I thought I'd just run this up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes... Beeblebrox (talk) 01:44, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
  • I'm still on the fence. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 01:45, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
  • I'll agree about the fencesitting, not so much as to why. So far, every RfA has always landed at a middling 60-70% support because of deletionist concerns. Basically you've been filibustered by others who figure with your deletionist ways, suave Latin charm and an otter cadre (and a bat) at your bidding you're not worthy of holding the mop and having to take the crap that comes with deleting precious articles given it is hard to get it back from you once you get it. The differing thing between me, you and Gorgy is that you do the junk Wikipedia wants, we do the junk Wikipedia has to put up with. You do craploads of junk like I don't get or don't want to really fathom and that's good, why exactly your love of cleaning as well as creating holds you back I can't say. Anyway, you've been blocked by what seems like petty reasons of being too fun (not entirely but a lot more fun that some of those guys with rods way up their asses) and a raving deletionist kook who'll shoot first and ask questions later, nothing else. No, it ain't no good but to be fair, I don't want you with the tools because I will bug you senseless regarding it and still mock you for it some 5 months down the line... if it gets you to talk. Get the tools, feel happy you survived the Thunderdome and simply let them slide, make sure your detractors know it truly ain't no big deal. treelo radda 08:45, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Ah, what the hey. Shnitzel's been the most encouraging here. I do think I've toned down a bit. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 16:58, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
  • So, what, you're a go-go for RfA #7 should someone choo-choo-choose to nom you? treelo radda 17:48, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Ah, great. Well then, update your notice on your userpage, right now everyone reckons they cant nom you at all until sometime in late 2010. treelo radda 17:58, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Say more, right now as a regular gawper at your page I'd reckon the conditions still applied and that noming you is a big no-no. treelo radda 18:12, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Okay, go ahead. I'm feeling a little more confident now, take me. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 18:21, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Huh? Naw, I can't nom you, it feels weird and also I have to answer to people for the nom which I can't shoulder because whilst I have the confidence of your adminability, I don't have the words to explain it or feel I can respond to questions posed to me in a manner which won't torpedo your chances. Also, I have little to no standing, every nom thus far has come from people with standing. Not saying it'll make much in the way of a difference, just if Beeblebrox has said words to the effect of saying he wants to nom you then I feel he should do if you're alright with it. That and having to appease the cabal which seems to turn its collective nose up at non-admin noms for some reason in the same way self-noms do. So yeah, I can't nom you not for knowing what to say or none but because I think I will scupper your chances. treelo radda 18:32, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
  • I self nommed and they went for it (on the second try). Anyhoo, if nobody else steps up in the near future, I could take a crack it, although I'm not sure someone whose only been an admin for one day has much "standing" either. OK, other TPH talk page stalkers, make yourselves known, I know you're out there! Beeblebrox (talk) 18:58, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
I've been spotted! *peers out from under his rock* If TPH is amenable, I'll take a shot at writing something up. Tony Fox (arf!) 03:39, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Ah, just go ahead and then tell him he's been nom'd for RfA, it's not really a nom unless someone pounces it on you unexpectedly. treelo radda 07:36, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm going to set something up in my userspace once I've finished salvaging some material from a slowly dying computer. =P Tony Fox (arf!) 03:13, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Okay, here's the workspace; I'd appreciate any other interested parties jumping in from there - please give me suggesitons on the talk page, and it can be tweaked then moved to the proper spot. TPH, you could answer the questions there as well if you'd like... Tony Fox (arf!) 04:40, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Huh, that's interesting. Not sure how kosher it is given the nominee can look and pass advice on the nom itself, I figure if something can't be done there it's the questions and acceptance elements of the nom. I don't think anything is wrong with it as it stands and hits more than what I'd say in the same position so yeah, Chowder gets last say. treelo radda 07:59, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Far as I know, there's nothing in the rules that states the nominee can't see the nom before it's transcluded and offer thoughts - I'd think that would be a better way to go, honestly, and in this case I'm trying to make sure I don't leave anything to chance. I'm more hoping that there might be a co-nominator who wants to weigh in. I'm pretty happy with my statement, though, so if I don't get any feedback in the next while I'll just fire it over to the proper spot and y'all can have at. Tony Fox (arf!) 15:35, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Go for it, fox. That's a good rationale if I've ever seen one. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 15:52, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Oh, OK, I'm up for a co-nom for whatever it is worth. treelo radda 16:45, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Reba refs

Instead I added my book reference I have: Will the Circle Be Unbroken: Country Music in America, which lists all of those influences and whom she has influenced. I had no idea it was in my book until I looked harder today lol, so fixed those and removed your [citation needed] tags. Thank you for noticing, I had no idea. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 02:04, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, well I probably can add it to her personal life section about Pake and Susie because they did have successful careers. I will try to find references to it and add them. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 19:52, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Induced Dyslexia

Dear TenPoundHammer,

Thank you (seriously) for your criticism that there was insufficient documentation to allow the topic "Induced Dyslexia" to be posted on Wikipedia.

I decided to rise to the challenge and created my own web page www.induceddyslexia.com.

I then discovered a technique for quantifying the dyslexic areas of my vision when wearing my progressive glasses. That discovery a year ago has led to the patent I filed two weeks ago for measuring visual acuity. My discovery allows for a test that is about 20% more accurate than the Snellen test, about 40% faster to administer, and because it is based upon the physiology and sensitivity of the photoreceptors of the eye rather than subjective interpretation of English letters, it not only lets you accurately test acuity without the subject being able to read English, the subject doesn't even need to be able to read to accurately have their acuity tested.

I currently am working with three optometry schools (including the school in Hong Kong) to have my test and discovery clinically validated.

All of this in part because of my (legitimate) "rejection" by Wikipedia and my inspiration and refusal to ignore the problem.

I am also hoping that shortly there WILL be sufficient documentation to restore the subject.

Thank you and regards, hold2file —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hold2file (talkcontribs) 20:45, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Officially...

(after screwing everything up a couple of times, it's up and ready...) Tony Fox (arf!) 16:50, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

And to think I was going to fix half of that too.. Nevermind, got my short co-nom in. treelo radda 17:03, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Bleah. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 17:48, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Inclusionist swine? treelo radda 18:05, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
I wouldn't go that far. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 18:06, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Me either but it does seem as if your cavalier ways are standing against you... just don't flip out, quit halfways through the nom and never do it again until some distant future in the year 2020. treelo radda 18:18, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Huh, yknow, I think if you're going to want this, you need to address the opposer's issues (even though some are still hung up on the whole IRC blowout) and build a little action plan of what you need to change within your mental processes so you can improve and fit the admin jumpsuit which is one size fits all, no exceptions. This all reminds me why I'm not exceptionally fond of the RfA procedure, it still strikes me as incredibly biased to certain vocal opponents of an nominee and the past rather than the present. Be patient young padawan, time will show the tale. treelo radda 18:36, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
That description pretty much jives with my recent experience. People were still bringing up the one thing that sunk my first RFA three months later at my second, but it does seem RFA has grown somewhat more forgiving of late. The newest drama/controversy/whatever is over how much questioning and challenging of oppose votes is appropriate. I tried to limit myself in that regard to clear logical flaws, and one case of an outright lie. Of course I bit my tongue and didn't actually call it a lie, I just asked a polite question asking for diffs to back it up. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:44, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
There's no pleasing some people. Addressing the opposers issue is one thing, but FFS, some of the opposes aren't really actionable. Protonk (talk) 03:29, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

RFA

How come on your user page, you have 7 RFA's, and on your RFA page, you have 7. What is missing here that I am not knowing of. I would bring this up on your RFA, but I don't want to get an editor encouraged to oppose you. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 20:34, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

The 7th was first made earlier this year, and was deleted because the nom filed it without asking first. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 20:35, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
I'd consider moving the current one or putting an explanation on your page, as it looks odd. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:07, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry to see things didn't go your way with the RfA. I do hope you plan to remain fully active, because there is really nobody on Wikipedia that could do the work you do. I wish the past wasn't always dragging you down. Just try and relax and do what you enjoy best and don't worry about the parts of Wikipedia that stress you out. -- Soap Talk/Contributions 03:15, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
  • I feel like an asshole for getting this ball rolling. It really seemed to me like RFA of late had been a more forgiving place where ancient history wasn't permanently held against someone, but clearly you have some wiki-enemies who intend to hold a permanent grudge against you no matter what you do. Some of them even said as much, which turned my stomach. Have one on me with my apologies for instigating this fiasco. Beeblebrox (talk)
    • And...whoo boy, this comment is gonna get saved by the usual suspects, but it is a fucking death sentence to be labeled a deletionist at RfA. Protonk (talk) 03:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I see that your RfA was closed and I can imagine that today was an incredibly stressful experience for you, especially in view of the seething stupidity that some people demonstrated in their comments about your candidacy. I will say that I deeply appreciate what you are bringing to Wikipedia and I hope that you will stay with us and continue with your fine work. Peace be with you. Pastor Theo (talk) 04:12, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
You failed me (in regards to withdrawing rather than yknow, failing) again! Ah well, what did we learn today from this baptismal of fire and brimstone? RfA proves all the mysteries you only hitherto thought were only rumour, like there being a cabal of inclusionists hence why schism-creating groups like WP:ARS and WP:AIW get to survive and progress whilst opposing groups are rejected at every turn, there's a set idea and groupthink aspect to what an administrator is and no deviations from that template are permitted and your not so great past actions define you more than any action you ever made or will make. Still, the tools may elude you now and forever but for something which is such a piddling little piece of crap it may as well be one step above autoconfirmed it sure seems only the few can have them. RfA still needs reform but you don't need to be able to delete or block in order to write a good article, keep at it chuckles. treelo radda 09:18, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Some people call WP:BACK Wiki-Hell. I don't. Wiki-hell is WP:RFA. RFA is home to some of the most heated, hurtful discussions anywhere on the 'pedia. While I opposed, nobody can take your immaculate article writing history away from you. I hope you survived the intense heat of the Wiki-hell, and that I will see some more great work from you soon. You are irreplaceable. --Gordonrox24 | Talk 12:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I know that was tough. You do great work. - Dank (push to talk) 13:44, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

H8

"…loved by many, hated by just as %#@$#*!ing many."
I am happy to be able to say I have GREAT confidence that isn't true of you, TPH.

In a sense, people want to support only admins they feel are going to agree with them. Even the kindest way to present concerns about ones decisions ("Will this person make the decision I would make if I were ("an" or "the reviewing") admin...which, of course, would be the correct ones?") is really unpleasant. And there are not enough who bother to approach the matter with kindness.

RfA is one of the few places in WP where people can be REALLY ugly and get away with it. Most of the rest of the time we say "Focus on the content, not the editors...", and mean it, and more than one editor will fall on offenders from a great height if they just...can't...stop. But in RfAs and such, folk can let the mean out. Couple that with the fact that many who would say good things simply never go there; it is just too unpleasant, and I am rather amazed that anyone who edits heavily ever makes it. If one has opinions, they will be "wrong" every time to someone... and if one has enough opinions, one will eventually be "wrong" to everyone.

I am sorry that I don't have any real words of wisdom to offer, and hope this poor attempt is in some small way helpful. All the very best, and I am sorry that was such a nasty experience.- sinneed (talk) 23:15, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

  • I am very troubled that you think people hate you. Hate is to strong a word to be tossed around online.--Gordonrox24 | Talk 01:27, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Well, TPH, I did not mean to draw even more negativity. I apologize.- sinneed (talk) 03:17, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
  • This is the anger, fear and self-loathing period of the RfA fallout. It, much like a day-old burrito, will pass, just going to take some time and might be a little noxious on the way out. Remember to jiggle the handle. treelo radda 07:39, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Lord Have Mercy on the Working Man

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Cowboy Casanova

The way it was worded made it sound like an unimportant detail. Since it has an article, then its fine to have it there. I did, however, word it better so it doesn't sound like a useless fact. Its not like songs leaking on YouTube is some sort of new thing - it happens all the time. CloversMallRat (talk) 16:39, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Adminship

I heard you withdrew the nomination. Sorry. Just in case you get too angry you lost, I have to do this:

{{trout}}

Just making sure. :D Rowdy the Ant (talk) 14:48, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Thanks for all the words, everyone. I'm honestly surprised that even more people hate me than ever. What did I do wrong? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 15:14, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
    I don't hate you, I just think you're a poor judge of what needs to be deleted when it comes to redirects and miscellany. If I don't see any (or many) wrongheaded noms from you at these venues in between now and your next RFA (if such a thing is to come to pass), I might be more inclined to support (or at least abstain). I may have even switched to neutral or support had you indicated you realized where your noms in the past had been unnecessary, instead, you dug in your heels. –xenotalk 15:19, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I don't hate you either, but I was real dissoppointed when you got me blocked. I really almost didn't support you on the RFA, but then I thought "What did he do wrong?" so I supported. Rowdy the Ant (talk) 15:40, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Um, what's with the trout dude? treelo radda 16:32, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
The people who were making bitter, nasty and sarcastic comments weren't saying anything about you -- but they were saying volumes about themselves. There is a point I sometimes make in regard to faith-based miracle healing: there are endless recorded testimonies of the blind receiving sight and the lame receiving mobility, but there is no recorded testimony of the stupid receiving brainpower. Think about it! :) Pastor Theo (talk) 16:37, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
That trout is way out of order. I supported, btw, and should you choose to run again I will support. ƒ(Δ)² 16:39, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I just did the trout to be a joke. If he wants to he can eat it. lol Rowdy the Ant (talk) 16:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
...Yeah. treelo radda 17:13, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I don't hate you either. ;) And the opposes shouldn't be perceived that way. I don't commonly oppose RfAs, but I simply have a firm opinion that you lack proper judgement with the deletion area of adminship, similar to Xeno. Good luck, JamieS93 18:24, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I don't think many people who opposed that RfA, including myself, hate you in the slightest, we all appreciate the work you do around here. Contrary to popular belief, I feel adminship is really a big deal afterall, and with errors still occurring comparatively frequently in your work, I just didn't feel I could support. 7 RfAs only really reinforced my oppose, but it didn't decide it. If you continue to improve in the way you have done, I'm not opposed to supporting you in future. Truly, I just didn't feel you were ready for the mop yet. Best of luck with editing. Regards, --—Cyclonenim | Chat  18:57, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

For the record, I don't hate you. Don't like you as a person all that much, for the same reasons I opposed: immaturity, lack of judgement, and an almost aggressive lack of clue. These things can be overcome with patience and dedication and, most importantly, listening when people tell you things and not doing the same thing over and over and over and over. As an editor (outside of projectspace, specifically deletions) I think you are generally fine, and contribute a lot. However, it is your reactions when balked, your questionable judgement when it comes to deletions, your not-infrequent demands! for! something! to! be! done! now!, and particularly your sulkiness when people won't jump when you say frog and don't feel like contributing to your pet areas (a frustration I share, given my relatively obscure interests) are each individually good reasons why you are unsuited for adminship. Taken together, while they are all fixable, they add up to someone who simply should not be given the ability to delete pages or block users. I understand that you mean well, but we all know what the road to Hell is paved with.

Seven failed bids for adminship have produced a few clear patterns of why people think you should not be an admin:

  • RfA 1: communication (lack of edit summaries), communication (rudeness), poor judgement (over-eager with AfDs and speedies, poor evaluation of what should/shouldn't be deleted), maturity, poor judgement (hasty decisions)
  • RfA 2: poor judgement (over-eager with AfDs and speedies, poor evaluation of what should/shouldn't be deleted), maturity
  • RfA 3: poor judgement (accepting nomination 21 days after RfA 2), concerns about too much hunger for the tools
  • RfA 4: poor judgement (over-eager with AfDs and speedies, poor evaluation of what should/shouldn't be deleted), poor judgement (misapplication of CSD criteria), poor judgement (hasty decisions)
  • RfA 5: poor judgement (too many RfAs), concerns about too much hunger for the tools, poor judgement (hasty decisions)
  • RfA 6: poor judgement (misapplication of CSD criteria), poor judgement (failure to substantively address and fix concerns from 5 previous RfAs)
  • RfA 7: poor judgement (misapplication of CSD criteria), poor judgement (over-eager with AfDs and speedies, poor evaluation of what should/shouldn't be deleted), poor judgement (too many RfAs), poor judgement (failure to substantively address and fix concerns from 5 previous RfAs)

So the bottom line: almost nothing about your behaviour or the reasons people oppose you becoming an admin has changed in nearly three years. You addressed the concerns about edit summaries, something that is trivial to do. You have in some ways addressed the incivility, but it comes and goes. Your poor judgement with regards to any portion of the deletion process, particularly CSD tagging and XfD noms, has unfortunately been almost completely unchanged since your first RfA. And those concerns have been raised--indeed, by people who rarely agree with each other, and by people on the deletionist side of the inclusion/deletion spectrum--on all seven RfAs. To those of us voting, that looks like either you: a) are unable to recognise there is a problem, b) don't care that there is a problem, and in either case are uninterested in making any sort of change.

Speaking as someone who is unlikely to pass an RfA anytime before the heat death of the universe, there is no chance whatsoever that you will ever pass one without addressing those issues. As it is, even if you do fix those problems, I think it highly unlikely that you will ever pass; you seem to see adminship as some sort of prize to be won or a status you deserve, as opposed to a position of trust that is earned. The community is--rightly in my opinion--leery about people who view adminship in that way. And with seven failed RfAs, no significant changes in behaviour since the very first one, the third three weeks after the second (did you really think everyone's opinions would change in 21 days?), and five within the timespan of twelve months, it is entirely reasonable for the community to believe that you feel you deserve to be an admin, without putting in the actual work to get there. Indeed, your apparent anger at not passing only serves to reinforce this interpretation.

I'm sorry if all of this comes off as harsh, but in my many conversations with you I have learned that the only way to get through is to be blunt and unequivocal. The really condensed version is this: in almost three years and six subsequent RfAs, you have still failed to fix the concerns raised at the first one. Once you come to terms with that, you'll be a lot closer to understanding why you are opposed every time, and you may have a chance in an eighth try if and only if you finally fix those issues. → ROUX  04:06, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

I have to take offense to some of the comments here; this time around, TPH had to be convinced that it was time to give it a shot - he didn't ask people to nominate him, he was hesitant, even after a year of waiting, and I know that if I thought he just wanted it as a prize, I wouldn't have bloody well nominated him. I've been watching his talk page, his activities, and his work for quite some time, and felt that he had matured significantly since the last time around; the fact that he's been praised by people from both sides of the inclusion/deletion spectrum suggests that. It's my opinion that a lot of people who bother to vote at RFA hold grudges far, far past where they should be let go; they vote based on actions far in the past and refuse to accept that someone they are opposed to could possibly change, in a lot of cases. I'm thoroughly disgusted with the process based on what I saw here, and hope that it either gets reformed to something sane soon or crumbles into a heap under its own self-righteousness at some point soon. Tony Fox (arf!) 04:24, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
I would have to say, then, that your judgement as the nominator was flawed, as was his in accepting. The fact that people were bringing up recent concerns that are indistinguishable from those raised at the first RfA is evidence of this. He has been praised by people from both sides of the D/I spectrum, yes, but he has also been roundly castigated by same. So that's not really a selling point. Take as much offence as you like, really, but hundreds of editors over three years have not changed their consensus. Doesn't that say something? → ROUX  04:44, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
You in particular cannot believably claim that your vote was based on a careful analysis of his recent contribs. You voted to oppose less than two minutes after it was posted, and when I questioned you about it you said " I'm afraid there is not a single thing that could possibly make me change my mind. TPH is unsuited for adminship, period. " So, you have stated that you intend to oppose him in perpetuity regardless of any change or growth. Beeblebrox (talk) 05:05, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, Beeblebrox, I believe that under no circumstances will anything change my mind about TPH becoming an admin. I do not believe he will change--note the points above; the same concerns were raised at RfA 7 as at the first--and I do not believe he has the temperament or capability to be an admin, and certainly not without a community-driven desysopping process in place. There are several others I feel the same about, and I am quite sure there are people who think that about me. So it goes. However, and this is important, other people do not feel as I do about TPH (obviously, given the number of supports), and I am attempting to explain to him what their concerns are as I see them, and how to fix them. Whether or not I reviewed his recent contribs is immaterial; I had my own reasons for opposing that frankly will not be changing. Others, however, did review his recent contribs and noted that there has been no change since the first RFA. If you would spend your time addressing that elephant rather than shooting the messenger, this conversation would actually be productive. → ROUX  16:47, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it suggests that RFA is pretty much screwed. Tony Fox (arf!) 05:11, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
It's the paradox of Wikipedia, you got a thing which is vastly considered not fit for purpose but nobody can agree what the issue is or a means to fix the issue. Because of not being able to figure out what to do with it and being part non-crucial backwater, part meritocracy window-dressing, part tribal ritual and part oligarchical BFF circlejerk, you're stuck with it and nothing can change it besides pointing to the shitlist and ignoring the issue. The system proves Schrödinger's cat theory wrong, everyone is looking and yet it is neither dead nor alive. treelo radda 14:49, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Rodney Crowell

Just overhauled his bio. Could you proof-read for mistakes and/or add anything that may be important that I missed. Thanks alot. Publichall (talk) 07:41, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: WDTW

I left a note as well. Those lists probably fail WP:NOT#DIR as well and should be deleted from all pages. - NeutralHomerTalk • 22:45, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Re. Postal Service Discog

Thanks for the NAC. I should've done it myself, and not wasted AfD time, but I obviously wasn't thinking very clearly. Thanks again, and happy editing. Lәo(βǃʘʘɱ) 22:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Cowboy Casanova

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Dead Flowers

Dead Flowers - EP isn't any less of a notable release for Miranda Lambert because its available at only Best Buy. Its a popular trend these days. The article isn't going to be very large and as heavy on the references because its an EP... no different than ones recently released by Caitlin & Will and Gloriana, for example. And now that I have the EP, I have added the info for the tracklisting. CloversMallRat (talk) 01:07, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Succession boxes

Oh ok, thanks. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 20:17, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Jeopardy! (video games)

Hey, can you comment on my merge proposal to combine Jeopardy! (video games) into Jeopardy! in merchandising#Video games. You can provide insight on the Jeopardy! in merchandising talk page. Sottolacqua (talk) 13:20, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Internet version of Cashbox

Your input is welcome at WT:Record charts#Internet version of Cashbox.—Kww(talk) 00:41, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

The Vault (Rascal Flatts album)

  • You were right to tag this as a speedy delete, because it's a hoax. In fact, the article creator has a history of creating hoax articles of the sort. THE AMERICAN METROSEXUAL 21:01, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Jewel discography

What is your opinion of the singles chart on the Jewel discography page? Do you think the singles should be separated into two separate tables, or should it be one unified table. To me it doesn't make sense why it's split up, but User:EnDaLeCoMpLeX thinks otherwise. What do you think, I don't know if he's right or I am. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 22:27, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

  • It shouldn't be split in my opinion. Most tables aren't split unless they're much larger. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 11:16, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Howdy

Hi there, I know that you've worked on a bunch of articles with User:BravesFan2006 and I'm asking if you could do me a favor and please assist me with watching his edits pertaining to chart information? I know that in the past, he would look up, for example, the US country chart on Radio & Records' website a day before Billboard, but now (at least according to this conversion), he is pulling information from a message board. Looking though his Talk Page it seems that other people have asked him where he gets his "early" chart information and he doesn't answer. I don't want to have to start issuing warnings, but I will if I have to. You and I know forums can't be used and I'm pretty sure he knows this too. Thoughts? - eo (talk) 02:55, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

If that's the case, then cool! As he is a longtime editor who does decent work I didn't want it to come to warnings and all that stuff. Thanks. - eo (talk) 10:16, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

You Can't Spell Slaughter Without Laughter (ismfof album)

Mind cluing me in on what's going on with You Can't Spell Slaughter Without Laughter (ismfof album)? The version of the article before you turned it into a redirect had a number of professional reviews listed, which appears to meet WP:MUSIC. Then you changed it to a redirect with a cryptic edit summary, and the next day nominate it for speedy deletion. I'm very confused -- on the surface, this appears quite out of character for you, so I'm sure there's backstory I'm missing.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:31, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

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Adoption

I was recently contacted by User:Rowdy the Ant. He seeks to be adopted by me, and I did so before I read up on his history. I know that he was blocked, and came back after he supposedly learned his lesson. Unfortunately, this seems to not be the case, as he is doing exactly what he said he wouldn't do. How do you want me to proceed with this? Thanks. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:50, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

He just reponded to me and says that he is changed. I basically warned him with the Pastor thing still in my mind. I'm willing to help him now, but I'll still listen to anything you advise. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:55, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey Ktr, I really wish do not wish to do any bad anytime soon. I already said I'm a changed user and won't do what I did in the past.
Same words go to TPH. Rowdy the Ant talk to Rowdy 01:03, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Heatseekers

So is this some sort of new policy because I've never seen this used before? I went to the Wiki page and it has no info about the Heatseeks chart, while it does for all other charts. I still see it as a worthless chart. CloversMallRat (talk) 03:18, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

According to that, the Heatseekers is redundant and should be used only if they haven't charted on the Billboard Hot 100 at all. Which makes more sense to me. CloversMallRat (talk) 19:57, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

The Wrays

I don't see why not. They were signed to a major label and charted on Billboard. Eric444 (talk) 03:03, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I just created a stub for them. Eric444 (talk) 04:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Jill Taylor

The last AfD result for this article wasn't keep it was in fact to merge and redirect to List of Home Improvement characters see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al Borland (2nd nomination). Looks like someone disagrees with that merge. RMHED. 21:58, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Please share your thoughts

Hidden pages at the village pump. ZooFari 03:06, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Abuse of rollback

This speaks for itself. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 22:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Lisa Shaffer

Can you please take a look at her article when you get the chance? I started to clean it up but my edits have been reverted by the artist herself. Eric444 (talk) 02:19, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Nothin' but the Wheel

Please don't delete pages by simply blanking and replacing them with a #redirect. You are well aware of the procedure for deleting pages, please use it instead of subverting it. Also state your justification for deletion so it can be discussed. This is also why I restored the links to this page on the Only What I Feel‎ and Classics (Patty Loveless album)‎ pages. Bwmoll3 (talk) 17:46, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

redirecting is using a different name for the same item, or MERGING the information on the page into another article, leaving the page with a #redirect. You are simply deleting the page, leaving a #redirect, which is not the intent of the #redirect function. Again, if you want to delete a page, to through the proper procedures to do so. Bwmoll3 (talk) 17:51, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

A merging is defined by the movement of information from one page to another. If you want to delete a page, please use the proper procedures and your justification so it can be discussed. Bwmoll3 (talk) 19:14, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Clearly you do not understand that merging means moving all of the information from one article to another in a coherent manner which contains the substance of the page into the merged page. All you did was essentially state that it was a single release. None of the information in the infobox as merged. Please perform your editing properly. Also, I fail to understand your reason for desiring to blank the page, as you had edited the page several times in June, also in 2008. It appears that you are wanting to do whatever you want, irregardless of the proper method established by Wikipedia. Page blanking.. IS vandalism and that is exactly what you are doing. Bwmoll3 (talk) 19:23, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

There is an established procedure for deleting pages. Please follow it if that is what you want to do. Bwmoll3 (talk) 19:32, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Your method of "merging" is not actually moving information. It is deleting. Please follow the proper procedures if that is what you wish to do. Bwmoll3 (talk) 19:56, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I have advised User:SarekOfVulcan of your actions. Please cease deleting this page and go though the page deletion procedure used by Wikipedia. Bwmoll3 (talk) 20:15, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I consider this matter closed as I informed User:SarekOfVulcan. Bwmoll3 (talk) 20:41, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Kent Blazy

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Kent Blazy at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! cmadler (talk) 19:03, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

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