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Sorry for the delay, but I have created your course page and included the first unit. Please find it here. I try and start with the basics (to gauge where you are), then slowly build it up. Good luck! --Mdann52talk to me! 10:31, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

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Alessandro Esseno page[edit]

Hi TerryAlex,

thanks for your kind response. Let me explain what's going on. I think I'll need your help. After many years, the Italian Wikipedia page of composer and pianist Alessandro Esseno was canceled on the pretext that this artist would have released all his records with the record label owned by him. This is totally false. There are link iTunes and Amazon that witness. In addition to this has been put in doubt that this artist can be "encyclopedic". This is despite a slew of articles about him in specialized journals since 1990, radio and television interviews, concerts in Italy and abroad, and of esteem on the part of people like Carla Bruni-Sarkozy and Sting. Many of us in Italy, to admire the musical art of this great artist, and frankly what's going on there seems deeply unfair to him. Every news has been checked with great care. In 2006 the CD "La Terra non finisce all'orizzonte" published by Rai Trade, has passed into the iTunes charts, the album by Ennio Morricone. This is not quite encyclopedic? Esseno was a guest in 2009 of the prestigious Ravello Festival, in 2011 he performed at the Auditorium Parco della Musica in Rome. It is not a stranger. So why all this malice against him? In 2013 Rai Uno (the TV most important in Italy) has dedicated a special visible on YouTube: Until the publication of his groundbreaking method of composition: I am convinced that the truth always wins in the end, both the prejudices that on lies. I would be honored if you would help me to fix the page en.wikipedia. Esseno deserves it. Ars gratia Artis. Thank you.-- (talk) 19:49, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

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Hi TerryAlex I am absolute beginner at Wiki edits and saw you improved the wordflow on my edit for(Tiffany Girls' Generation article) thanks! I think that her Korean Name needs to be tagged asking for it to be sourced. Can you do that? I do not know if I have user privilege to do it myself, and I do not know how wiki markup wise. Obiwan92507 (talk) 16:15, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi again,

I checked that ref and it looks good to me. Even with my poor Korean knowledge I can read some of the headlines. First I've seen her Korean name referenced. I probably should think about adding some other stuff to improve the article, if I do feel free to point out any errors I make! Obiwan92507 (talk) 17:02, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

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"good faith edit"[edit]

I'm sorry, but how does "I like turtles" constitute a good faith edit?Fungal vexation (talk) 14:28, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Fungal vexation, you mean I should have marked it as a "vandalism" instead? because I don't see anything in that statement that can contribute to that article [1]--TerryAlex (talk) 14:50, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

I thought it was vandalism, yes.Fungal vexation (talk) 14:56, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Fungal vexation: Ah well, I guess, I can be a bit lenient at times. I always like to assume good-faith first unless it is blatantly profanity or words that are very offensive. Thanks for advising me.--TerryAlex (talk) 14:58, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Whoa, I've thought my self as a vegetarian for many years, because I did not consider dairy products and eggs to be meat. I guess I've never been a vegetarian before. Is this octo-lacto thing new? And I'm sorry if I came of as rude. You didn't do anything wrong. Fungal vexation (talk) 15:03, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Fungal vexation, so I'm guessing that you don't eat meat? Well, if so, then you are really a vegetarian. There are many types of vegetarians out there. Some eat both milk and eggs while others only eat one type or the other (see here Types of Vegetarians). On the other hand, those who don't eat any animals by-products at all are called vegan. By the way, there is no need to apologize, I guess I have to be reminded sometimes that I can be a bit too lenient. --TerryAlex (talk) 15:48, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Texas A&M University[edit]

Please look more carefully before you follow ClueBot and hit revert, followed by a warning. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 18:36, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Drmies, thanks for the notice. I do make a mistake sometimes.--TerryAlex (talk) 18:38, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Sure thing--and I appreciate the note you just placed. Drmies (talk) 18:39, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Jain Acharya Vijay RatnakarSuri[edit]

Hey TerryAlex, The Article Jain Acharya Vijay RatnakarSuri is an Article about a Living Jain Monk Who is a popular personality among all jains in India. And I have references in written (printed in an newspapers)of india and I can show it to you too. please tell me where to do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenishjain17 (talkcontribs) 14:17, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Jenishjain17, it might be helpful that you take a look at this here Template:Cite news and here Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Deletion of BLPs. All biographies of persons need to have at least a reliable reference/source; otherwise, it would be deleted as in your article's case. So if you want to recreate this article or other new articles in the future, please keep it in mind. Hope this helps.--TerryAlex (talk) 15:15, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks TerryAlex — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenishjain17 (talkcontribs) 18:30, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Content Removed[edit]

Hi! Regarding the change I have made to the site Islam in Slovakia.... well I thought the info were old and I wanted to get some new ones in... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Otapka (talkcontribs) 08:02, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Otapka , please specify it in the "Edit summary" the next time. Thanks so much. --TerryAlex (talk) 12:03, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

How to restore[edit]

Hello sir, How do i restore the page It would be very greatful if you could help me im restoring my page "Jain Acharya Vijay RatnakarSuri" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenishjain17 (talkcontribs) 16:09, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Jenishjain17, take a look at this page Wikipedia:Recreation of previously deleted pages#If you plan to recreate. Hope this helps --TerryAlex (talk) 17:13, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

TTS Sales[edit]

They were 44 weekly on oricon weekly chart: --SicaSunny (talk) 06:20, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

September 2014[edit]

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October 2014[edit]

Monica potter has three children, not four. If she has four, each should be listed under the "personal life" section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrvmsv (talkcontribs) 03:05, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Hey TerryAlex, On the Australian_domestic_limited-overs_cricket_tournament page I changed the name of the Qld Bulls as they are no longer sponsored by XXXX Gold and are now sponsored by my FootDr. Not sure why this was marked as spam ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dfishau (talkcontribs) 03:22, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

K-pop "rappers" and "dancers"[edit]

Hey TerryAlex, I noticed your edits on the Amber Liu and Sulli pages and saw that you edited rapper from both pages because as you put it, "[they] do not rap the whole songs". This reasoning is flawed, primarily because by that logic, they should not be classified as singers either as they do not sing whole songs. Both do not have any solo songs and are performing as part of f(x) so of course they have not demonstrating rapping or singing a whole song. Therefore, they should still be classified as both singers and rappers because that is what they are promoted as when they are performing with f(x) (particularly Amber who raps a lot more than she sings in their songs).

Secondly, I think "dancer" should definitely still be considered a part of their occupation because unlike Western artists, K-pop idols are specifically trained to dance as part of their performances. Dancing is a part of their occupation because it is part of what encompasses an idol, and they are promoted as entertainers, celebrities who are singers as well as dancers (and sometimes actors and models). Most Western artists are not promoted as dancers and as such, it is not included as part of their occupation. However, K-pop idols are held to a different regard since groups are expected to dance in unison and there are even some Western artists who are classified as dancers such as Beyoncé and Chris Brown due to the level of dancing in their performances. Now I agree with the removal of other occupational titles such as "model", "MC" or "presenter" as they can be considered superfluous and redundant (although "model" may be relevant in some cases such as with Bae Suzy, Yoona and Sulli because they have garnered national success through their promotional model endorsements and I believe that should be recognised in their occupation).

Sorry for the long post about this small issue, but I'd be interested to know what you think about my stance on it, since I too have issues with the current format of K-pop articles. Azuxingmitalk 19:20, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello User:Azuxingmi talk, hmmm, how should I put this, I don't deny the fact that some of the K-pop artists are good dancers, but think it's more relevant to recognize them as singers & actresses rather than anything else. Yes, they were trained in all sort of things such as dancing, singing and acting. But at the end of the day, dancing is only a part of enhancing the singing/performing parts, it's not something that they do separately from it. They hardly ever have a strictly-dancing performance, maybe once or twice during a random concert, but that does not really count [even singers who have no training in dancing, they can do good movements if they practice hard enough right? So I don't see how they can be considered as dancers that way]. My point is: they were trained in dancing in order "to perform" rather than doing anything in professional dancing, they are not the back-up dancers. After all, all K-pop artists are still singers (but some are better than the others).
As for the "rappers", it's a bit harder to draw the line for the K-pop artists, because some "rappers" can still sing, and some "singers" can still rap. I think the important point that we should emphasize here is that whether it's rapping or singing, they all do contribute their "vocal" to the songs. Therefore, I find it not important to strictly define them as "rappers". In general, they all are still singers.
For "Model", all K-pop artists generally do get many endorsements throughout their career [it does not really apply to any one particular artist], so it's not necessary to include it (as well as the "Endorsement" section) on Wikipedia unless it's something very significant. Most of the time, being recognized as the "model" does not make them anymore famous than they really are. They first, and foremost, are well-known professionally as being singers and actors. They are definitely not professional models.
In general, I also have many issues with the current format of K-pop articles. I find many information irrelevant. For example, K-pop as the music genre already includes all types of music within it (pop, hip-hop, dance, etc); therefore, it's not necessary to list out anything else. On the other hand, lots of K-pop articles do not have any coherent writing styles. The wordings/word flows are all over the place. Some sentences even have mixed past, present, future tense.--TerryAlex (talk) 21:22, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification, and I have to say you have me convinced! So I suppose idols shouldn't necessarily be considered "dancers" as a separate occupation, as they only really dance to enhance their performances, regardless of how skilled they may be (with exceptions such as Hyoyeon, Min and Kahi who were professional dancers/back-up dancers prior to becoming idols). And yeah, K-pop articles in general need reworking and I'm assuming that a lot of the editors working on these articles are quite young and inexperienced as the K-pop target demographic primarily consists of pre-teens and teens. Azuxingmitalk 22:48, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
User:Azuxingmi talk Generally speaking, to me they are all entertainers, because they can sing, dance (and act) very well at the same time. And you know, within the fandom world, we do recognize some as the better dancers while others as the better singers. But professionally and specifically, I think it's most relevant to recognize them as singers and actors (like I said). That's what they professionally well-known as, that is their main jobs (being a singer of a certain group, or being a lead actress of a certain drama). So other occupations are not necessary to be listed. Anyways, thank you so much for the discussion.--TerryAlex (talk) 23:45, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Citations in infobox[edit]

Does the birth date/place really need to be referenced in the infobox, if it is referenced in the text of the article? There are lots of featured articles that don't reference info in the infobox if it is referenced in the text (e.g. Mariah Carey). Is there a rule or earlier discussion about this? Thanks. Random86 (talk) 20:33, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Random86 (talk),not sure about birthplace (but I made a reference anyways), but birthdate definitely has to be cited--TerryAlex (talk) 22:26, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Random86 (talk), moreover, a lot of K-pop articles either has redundant or unreliable information (with no good references), so it would be good just to input the citation wherever we can to verify that piece of information.--TerryAlex (talk) 22:38, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Yes, many K-pop articles are badly written and need references. However, I don't think information necessarily needs to be cited in the infobox if it is cited in the body of the article. WP:WHYCITE states: "Citations are also often discouraged in the lead section of an article, insofar as it summarizes information for which sources are given later in the article, although such things as quotations and particularly controversial statements should be supported by citations even in the lead." I thought this could apply to the infobox as well as the lead section. Having citations in the infobox isn't a big deal, but I think unnecessary ones make it look cluttered. Random86 (talk) 22:59, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Random86 (talk), I asked an admin and this is what he replied to me. It does not necessary has to be cited inside the infobox, but WP:LEAD does recommend not to cite in the lead paragraph. So do you think it is better to cite within the lead or the infobox?

Hi Materialscientist, does the birthdate/birthplace of a living person need to be cited inside the infobox? Or can it just need to be cited anywhere else in the article? Let me know. Thanks.--TerryAlex (talk) 23:05, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

It must be cited, in the lead, body or infobox. WP:LEAD advises us not to cite in the lead, but many bios don't have refs at all, so WP:LEAD doesn't really apply. Materialscientist (talk) 23:22, 9 November 2014 (UTC) --TerryAlex (talk) 23:32, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Random86 (talk), not to confuse you, the reason why I asked if it's better to cite within the lead or infobox is because for a few articles such as Jessica or Tiffany, their birthdates were not mentioned again after the lead paragraph.

November 2014[edit]

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Hi Jschnur talk, I don't think that edit even made any sense? --TerryAlex (talk) 04:05, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
My humble apologies, I was trying out igloo (which is in alpha) and it looked like you did the vandalism. Good on you for reverting my edit. I'll be more careful in future. Jschnur (talk) 04:12, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
BTW, Feel free to remove my erroneous warning. Jschnur (talk) 04:13, 18 November 2014 (UTC)