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Awards[edit]

Thanks For All Your Work on Late Night With Conan O'Brien![edit]

A Barnstar!
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar

Thanks for all your contributions to the article Late Night With Conan O'Brien! For all your work, I would like to present you with this Tireless Contributor Barnstar. aido2002 05:33, 3 August 2006 (UTC)




Rock-paper-scissors random[edit]

I was thinking about reverting your edit to Rock-paper-scissors, but then my brain went off on a "but what does random really mean, anyway? I mean really mean?", and I had to leave your edit alone to shut my brain up. Then you reverted it! Cretog8 (talk) 07:04, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Mole hill[edit]

Hello. I thought I heard him say that when I first watched. I went back and checked the DVR just now, and when the second team arrives at Jon's bench, he says "...good news, you've made it to the halfway point..." It could have been him just being folksy, and some small talk, but if the elapsed time is an indication, it's probably about right. So since he said "halfway point," I think it's fair for us to include that phrase. Doctorindy (talk) 13:10, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Whose Line Is It Anyway?[edit]

Good job on this article. I'd made a start on the whole mess of original research and fancruft that it had become, but you've really whipped it into shape now. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 22:05, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Mythbusters[edit]

You took down something of mine and I would like to work with you so I can become better at editing Wikipedia.
It was on the Mythbusters page. I am new, but please assume I know not to soap-box, post original research or loose NPOV. Privately I do have some observations about the recent seasons of the show:

Adam is becoming a diva.
They dip people in goo more often.
PETA is loosing power over the show. Most people wouldn’t harm animals for entertainment but would harm animals for science.

The PETA point is the only one of encyclopedic merit. I believe this is the case because Mythbusters is setting a precedent for other developing media. Mythbusters is a part of semi-mature class of television which has little 4th wall and a lot of internet participation.

I was careful with my change. Berrying in mind, Non-original research is hard to find for most any television show. Also that I want to keep the page only containing the most relevant information. I felt that expanding the sentence on cockroaches to illuminate a general trend was the best solution. I don’t think it was too wordy. The first version is 96 words and my version is 98.

I changed this:

The program generally avoids experiments harmful to animals and people that cannot be tested safely, though in one episode they bombarded cockroaches and other laboratory insects with lethal doses of radiation and the cast addressed this, saying that the insects were specifically bred for experiments and would have likely died anyway. In another episode, Kari Byron intentionally allowed herself to be stung by a jellyfish, though it was revealed beforehand by an expert at the aquarium where the jellyfish was obtained that the experiment they had planned would not be a serious threat to Kari's safety.

To this:

While Mythbusters is science, it also follows the rule of not harming living things for the purpose of entertainment. In one episode Adam was required to be sprayed by a skunk. However the teem couldn’t mistreat the animal in any way. Several attempts and environments where tried until finally the behavior was induced in a PETA approved manner. An exception to this is an episode where cockroaches and other laboratory insects where bombarded with lethal doses of radiation. The cast addressed the morality, saying that the insects were specifically bred for experiments and would have likely died anyway.
Is there any part of this which belongs on Wikipedia? Pstaight (talk) 13:13, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

"I Survived a Japanese Game Show" Finale[edit]

I just saw a listing on TVGuide.com for next week's show, as it is a two-hour finale, and the teams will be broken up and there will be three elimination challenges. I just thought you'd like to know. NoseNuggets (talk) 4:53 AM US EDT Jul 29 2008.

Re: Reference Scroll[edit]

MOS:SCROLL Gary King (talk) 07:26, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Usain Bolt[edit]

Hi there. Good work on the article. It appears the article took a bit of a beating format wise while I took my eye off it, though! Can I ask what you think about the date format in the article (uses 21 August 2008 standard)? Jamaica is also written thus but Jamaican news websites seem to be favouring the American standard. The article was originally written with British dates and lexicon and I reverted the changes against this but am now unsure about whether this is how the article should be written.

Also, it appears I had misunderstood the purpose of a lead - to summarise the only most important feats of the athlete (not to summarise the article as a whole). I currently have Dwain Chambers at FAC and I think you could really help me out. Only one editor is making suggestions currently and there seems to be little interest in editing athletics articles on wikipedia anyway. Any thoughts/suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks Sillyfolkboy (talk) 15:09, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Body Language[edit]

You rejected my edits about the outcome of a possible playoff. How is it obvious? Just curious. 98.192.44.39 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 03:55, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

My reply to yours about Body Language[edit]

I just wanted to say that the reason I might've had the one possibly of a playoff is because there is an episode I've seen in which nobody solved the second $250 puzzle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.192.44.39 (talk) 15:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Salary cap and the reserve clause[edit]

In response to your {{fact}} / [citation needed] in the article Salary cap#Reserve clause: If you are interested in why the NHL had a salary cap in the 1930s, it is because the Great Depression. Two teams (out of ten) folded in the early 30s, while other teams were forced to restrict players' salaries. This should have a reference in the article, though. — Twas Now ( talkcontribse-mail ) 15:27, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

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Punch a Bunch[edit]

There's an entire section for "History." It isn't necessary to include historical data, specifically related to previous cash distributions, in the main body of the article.

The column format is not consistently used throughout Wikipedia and looked awkward in your edit. The two tables weren't the same height and bullet points/explanations didn't line up. Sottolacqua (talk) 12:45, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Date autoformatting deprecated[edit]

In response to your talk page message to User:Wheeler0152, you might not be aware that date autoformatting was sadly deprecated last August after some long and protracted battles over the issue. Robert K S (talk) 19:18, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

You got it right--it will still work, but we're "not supposed" to use it. The changeover took me by surprise, too. It would seem like the kind of guideline change that should be featured on the front page. Robert K S (talk) 15:20, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, this discussion is now beyond my number of levels of "undo". Robert K S (talk) 19:48, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

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Bolt Win = Silver[edit]

Ho ho ho. That's some funny stuff... Sillyfolkboy (talk) 03:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Back to the Future[edit]

Thanks for helping Alientraveller with those concerns during the GA review. Wildroot (talk) 21:01, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


Image source problem with Image:Palmer1.jpg[edit]

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KVS Episodes[edit]

Are you aware that you actually reverted my changes that were done to improve the article? --Pwnage8 (talk) 07:33, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Just thought I'd bring that to your attention, that's all. I was wondering the same thing about it letting you make the edit. --Pwnage8 (talk) 08:11, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


Usain Bolt[edit]

Thanks for the barnstar! I really appreciate the comments too. I have to say I spent (too) many hours researching that article so I hope you've enjoyed working on it and reading it. Cheers. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 16:48, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Reverts[edit]

Hello, A couple of weeks ago I modified an image and then uploaded it to the Barenaked Ladies article. You reverted my edit, [1] but gave no meaningful reason in your edit summary or did not leave any message on my talk page as why the edit was inappropriate. I feel that the new image, (with the black background removed), helps the reader see the subject easier.
Both Images for comparison:

-- GateKeeper(X) @ 18:58, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Re[edit]

Thank You for your response, however in the future try to leave your comment on my talk page and not my user page :( . My reason for trying to eliminate the dark background was that others had commented in the past they had trouble distinguishing his hair from the background. I don't care which image is left in the article, as long as it is the version that helps readers the best, something probably best discussed at the talk page of the article.

As a courtesy I would also like to let you to know that I used the image at his profile page, you may review it and use your best judgment to revert it if you feel that it does not contribute to the article. -- GateKeeper(X) @ 19:20, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Candy stick[edit]

Hi TheHYPO, On the 1st of December 2007, you edited the Micrurus fulvius article to add a link to candy cigarette, since at the time "Candy stick" redirected to Micrurus fulvius. After that, I changed the "Candy stick" redirect to a disambiguation page and moved your link there. Currently, Candy stick is a new article on the hard candy and the original disambiguation page is called Candy stick (disambiguation). The last question that was raised, however, asks whether "candy stick" really is a legitimate alternative name for "candy cigarette" or not. Since you came up with the association, I was wondering if perhaps you could clarify the matter and possibly produce a reference. I think the best soltution would be to add the name and the reference to the "candy cigarette" article. Thanks, (PS -- Please answer here, as I've temporarily added your talk page to my watchlist). --Jwinius (talk) 01:39, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey J; I checked the talk pages of all of the relevant articles I could find and I didn't see any ask about the cigs. At least one brand has gone this way: popeye candy cigs were changed, at some point, in at least some markets, to be billed as popeye candy sticks. I believe, though this would be original research without a citation, that the move was made in recent years due to the obvious argument against offering children candy that portrays cigarettes as enjoyable. I'm not sure how many, or what other companies have taken similar moves. I hope this helps. TheHYPO (talk) 07:04, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Good enough! Thanks, --Jwinius (talk) 11:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

The Simpsons (season 10)[edit]

Please explain your edit of this article on 10/28/08. Thank you. Faethon Ghost (talk) 14:37, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Didn't the amount of guest stars in this season eclipse other seasons? I mean some of the episodes were clearly just written strictly FOR the guest stars with no real plot. That season was the beginning of the end for the Simpsons and you can even hear the blade as it moves across the bottom of the wooden barrel. Faethon Ghost (talk) 14:59, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Have fun on the comfy bottom of the barrel. Say hi to Bart's twin for me. Must be nice down there. Faethon Ghost (talk) 05:52, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Early bird dinner[edit]

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WML?[edit]

Just to keep you updated, User:Gsnviewer is also User:Debbiesvoucher, User:Dooyar, User:Nyannrunning, etc., who is permanently banned for sock puppet violations. I've been (slowly) working up an SSI report. Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Casa Loma copyright violation[edit]

Just wanted to let you know I left a comment regarding a section I blanked out from the Casa Loma article in January over on the copyright violations page. Other than that section that I blanked, I couldn't find anything else that matched exactly, but then again, I was a bit distracted at the time by other things anyway. You might have more luck with it than I did.

Also, the infobox and opening statement should be unmarked, in my opinion. Even if anything in it were copied from elsewhere, it'd be fair use, and it'd be recreated if the infobox was ever added to the page in its rewrite. Likewise, the opening statement, as it'd be difficult, if not impossible, to rewrite it some other way. (BTW, the opening statement may be from http://www.galenfrysinger.com/ontario_toronto_casa_loma.htm but with a slight variation in translation; a Google search for the phrase pulled this up right after the WP article. Other text on that page sounds familiar, too.) --coldacid (talk|contrib) 05:17, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

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As suggested by the copyvio template, edits for the new article should be at Talk:Casa Loma/Temp until such time as we have a decent enough article to replace the original. --coldacid (talk|contrib) 09:59, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

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AfD nomination of ITunes Originals[edit]

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WikiProject Athletics[edit]

Hi TheHYPO! Given you interest in working on Usain Bolt in the past: Would you like to join WikiProject Athletics? Thanks. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU! 12:13, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

AFD[edit]

Seeing as you opened this AFD - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Guests on Late Night with Conan O'Brien (2nd nomination)...

Just wanted to let you know about this latest Conan-related one: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of the Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien episodes Cheers, --Madchester (talk) 00:51, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

WP:Hornbook -- a new law-related task force for the J.D. curriculum[edit]

Hi TheHYPO,

I'm asking Wikipedians who are interested in United States legal articles to take a look at WP:Hornbook, the new "JD curriculum task force".

Our mission is to assimilate into Wikipedia all the insights of an American law school education, by reducing hornbooks to footnotes.

  • Over the course of a semester, each subpage will shift its focus to track the unfolding curriculum(s) for classes using that casebook around the country.
  • It will also feature an extensive, hyperlinked "index" or "outline" to that casebook, pointing to pages, headers, or {{anchors}} in Wikipedia (example).
  • Individual law schools can freely adapt our casebook outlines to the idiosyncratic curriculum devised by each individual professor.
  • I'm encouraging law students around the country to create local chapters of the club I'm starting at my own law school, "Student WP:Hornbook Editors". Using WP:Hornbook as our headquarters, we're hoping to create a study group so inclusive that nobody will dare not join.

What you can do now:

1. Add WP:Hornbook to your watchlist, {{User Hornbook}} to your userpage, and ~~~~ to Wikipedia:Hornbook/participants.
2. If you're a law student,
(You don't have to start the club, or even be involved in it; just help direct me to someone who might.)
3. Introduce yourself to me. Law editors on Wikipedia are a scarce commodity. Do knock on my talk page if there's an article you'd like help on.

Regards, Andrew Gradman talk/WP:Hornbook 02:16, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Bonus round[edit]

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When reintroducing material please be sure to check for accuracy, spelling and duplicate word errors. Sottolacqua (talk) 15:43, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Card Game (pricing game) and others[edit]

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AfD nomination of Check Game[edit]

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AfD nomination of Kathy Greco[edit]

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AfD nomination of Roger Dobkowitz[edit]

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Showcase Showdown merge proposal[edit]

Saw you were editing Showcase Showdown but haven't commented on the Talk:The Price Is Right (U.S. game show)#Merge Discussions. Wanted to give you a chance to weigh in before merging the article. Sottolacqua (talk) 21:57, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Hockey Numbers[edit]

Although it was several years ago now, you pulled what you considered trivial information off of the Hockey number section. But if you look at the history of numbers in the NHL the shift to numbers above 30 was a significant change in the tradition of the NHL and so describing how this happened with references is not any more trivial than talking about number of peoples jerseys in general. When I first read the article, it said that there was no basis for number selection in the NHL and that lower numbers were not more valued. This is untrue to this day. However it was very rare to see a number over 40 before the selection of higher numbers by Espo, Hodge, Gretzky. But you chose to delete this information. Well if that is the case, the only non trivial information is: "In hockey you can be any number between 1-98." Any more information is anecdotal. The point is, if you are going to slash articles with this information do it in a consistent manner instead of arbitrarily determining what is and isn't useful information.Kevinskogg (talk) 19:21, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for not signing. After your edits, the full story of how Gretzky ended up with 99 was removed. And one of your edit comments said removing trivial items. I assumed that meant all of that set of edits. My original verbiage had been corrupted and needed to be cleaned up when you got there I agree, for example the parenthetical statement about the NHL retiring 99 like baseball did for 42 was out of place. But the point of that story was to show the direct link from Esposito's decision to Gatsby's number selection which, because of his eventual stature in the game, sped up the inclusion of non-hockey (as I call them) numbers in the game. Also, although it was not my inclusion, I think your comment about birth years is also wrong. My reasoning is this, Gordie Howe started in 1946-47 at the age of 18. He could have take his birth year 28 at that time but the Red Wings only numbered up to 22 and assigned numbers to players. Howe's original number of 17 was only changed the next year because it got him a lower berth on the Pullman car. It was typical in his era to be assigned numbers by the team. Considering that only one more birth year was available above the magic 30 and most number selection was done by the teams at this time, it falls that by the time individual numbers choices were common, only people born after 1930 were choosing so by the traditional "hockey number" system, birth years were not available. Therefore it wasn't really until recently that this became feasible under the hockey number "system," and for the writer to say this was a relatively new trend was correct.

Just an aside to this. When I was growing up my father was a high school running coach. One year, right before Espo went to the Rangers, his team bought extra warm up jerseys and my brother and I got our own with our HS graduation year on them. Boy did 1987 seem like a long way away. Being a little hockey fan I was disappointed by the number on the back. But then that winter Espo changed from 12 to 77 and I could now consider that it was a hockey number. I remember we had cable TV and at the time there weren't a lot of channels even on cable but one that we got was the MSG network. I remember watching the Rangers and want just to see this hockey jersey with such an outlandish number on it so I could pretend my #87 jersey was a hockey jersey (interesting now for me as the Pens are my #2 team.) There was no system, just like the "unwritten rules" of all sports, there was a protocol that people followed because that's the way it was. Turns out it was just because there were about 20 guys on a team and so you printed 20 jerseys with serial numbers and the first one was the goalie. Later as you had different rosters you added 10 more to cover everyone. And the first and last were goalies.Kevinskogg (talk) 20:22, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

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My edit to the Barenaked Ladies article was fair. Scarborough was not merely a suburb of Toronto when Barenaked Ladies was formed, but still is. It's no longer a suburban municipality within Metro Toronto, but still a suburb. Why did you revert my edit? A.Roz (talk) 08:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

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