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Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 15:39, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Tidewater Provincial Park

I am busy someone else can provide references. Skeeter08865 19:01, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Ferdinand Sauerbruch — dates

Hello! When wikifying dates, it's important not to include ordinals (like "3rd", "4th", etc.), and to seaparet the linking of the day-month part from the year. It's also best to link birth and death dates using an en rule rather than a hyphen. Thus Sauerbruch's dates, for example, should read:

(3 July 18752 July 1951)


(3rd July 1875 - 2nd July 1951)

As you can see, the latter gives red links; it also doesn't work with the Wikipedia date-format preferences. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:07, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Signa Vianen, Journalist

Dear ms. Ringess, please do note that this person is credible and has acquired a good name throughout the local community. I therefore vote for a fully recognizing article in Wiki. Thank You Suriname 17:10, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

iboga stuff

hi ringess

i'm about to revert your edits to iboga and Howard Lotsof so i figured i'd give you a heads up.

its general stub world policy to have two stub categories per article if warranted. the hallucinogen project deals with hallucinogens in a scope beyond that of what project drugs was doing, seeking to take into account spiritual, medical, botanical, ethnological and etc issues and not just chemicals. accordingly, it encompasses plants and researchers among other things. people with info to contribute about iboga or howard lotsof are probably just as likely, if not more likely, to be contributing because of their knowledge of iboga and hallucinogens rather than plants and medicine.

as for the merger, i agree that the information in howard lotsof should all be in the ibogaine article, if it isn't already; but that doesn't mean that Howard Lotsof shouldn't have his own article as a notable entity distinct from ibogaine itself. kinda like how Albert Hofmann isn't just a footnote to LSD. It should be expanded as a biographical article- he was probably born some time some place and so on and so forth. As it stands, it contributes nothing that can't be found in the ibogaine article, but that doesn't mean it should be eliminated.

please feel free to respond!


--Heah (talk) 05:34, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

and going over my watchlist again, ditto for rick strassman, empathogen-entactogen, and etc. --Heah (talk) 05:43, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

(Prof. Carlos E Nemer) Thanks for your excelent work ms Ringess, it´s trully remarkable the way and the rithm you wikipedia work. The references will be provided, The question is we are aproaching the hollidays and everybody will go on vacation around here, all this considered, please give me more time to gather the information requested. rEGARDS Prof. Carlos Vieira

Your afd nominations

Thank you for your efforts to keep nonsense, self promotion, and the like off of Wikipedia. However, I must ask you to please read Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#How to list pages for deletion before making any more afd nominations. Since you've been missing step III, nobody will see your nominations unless someone else finds them on Category:Pages for deletion and list them for you (which is a very time-consuming process, even with bot assistance). This also causes the articles you're trying to get deleted to stay in Wikipedia for longer than they otherwise would. —Cryptic (talk) 17:50, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

  • A related suggestion: you may want to consider whether articles should instead be tagged for cleanup in some cases instead of for deletion. Crypticfirefly 23:03, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Meat Coma

You decided to put the article on Meat Coma up for deletion. However, this can happen if large quantities of meat such as turkey or beef are consumed due to the presence of trytophan, which does cause sleepiness in large enough quantities. This is the reason why it used to be used in sleeping pills. I have therefore removed the deletion request. If you wish to complain to me, then please do so on my talk page.

The Neokid

Theneokid 20:52, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Welcomes and whatnot

You've been putting welcome messages on the User's User Pages. They need to go on the User_talk pages. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 07:43, 13 December 2005 (UTC)


hey why are you considering the article The Dark Channel for deletion, is their anything bad about it? The Article is legit and if you wish to complaing please post in the discussion on its page, the afd will be removed until you can give me an answer. --Darkgrammer 12:38, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Sean Conlon page

Hi there, I noticed you were editing the Sean Conlon at the same time as me and I acidentally deleted the stub you added, so I re-added it for you.
Sarz 06:23, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

ZeroSpyware page

Hi, kindly check again if the article is acceptable now. Also could you point out the sentences which seem too "markety" so I could revise them? Thanks.

Wonser page

How can i make this acceptable for Wikipedia more specifically? I understand that it can seem to be jibberish from a random user searching for this information. Encyclopedia's often include even the smallest details and this is what makes them such a great resource. I find this article appropriate for wikipedia and i would like to accomodate to your guidelines Metalgear9 06:08, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the time. It is my first post and i understand that you're doing your job. Go ahead and delete the article. Thanks for keeping Wikipedia free from idiots like me! (I don't mean that i feel like an idiot because of you but what i did do was just for my own pleasure and amusement of my community, thanks for letting us have fun, and im' sorry for the inconvenience. If i do find something that i wish to add that will benefit the website I will. Thanks for putting up with me.) Metalgear9 06:31, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the help Metalgear9 07:12, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Ken Kutaragi

I'm requesting your opnion about this dispute. Lot of POV-Pushing, the article is currently blocked. --GroundZero 21:05, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Yay! I got welcomed!

Thanks for being a bright and friendly beacon to those who are lost in the great ocean of information that is Wikipedia. - CorbinSimpson

Ditto, thanks for the welcome message. -- Hongooi 16:11, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Woow! Thanks for my welcome too, Ringess! Penguin2006 03:39, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the Welcome!

hugggz, Suzanne Sclcookie Tx for the help with my page! Kopana

Thanks for the welcome!

Thanks for the welcome and tips, though I actually have a nice Wiki background! I'm a sysop at the Sonic the Hedgehog Information Treasury, which is the largest Sonic the Hedgehog Wiki running on MediaWiki software. Unfortunately, a server error brought our database down. It will be up soon. See you around! Alexbt 07:20, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Chocolate pudding

I agree that chocolate pudding should have its own article, so I rewrote it. Please take a look, you may want to re-consider your deletion nomination. Thanks. Crypticfirefly 19:21, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Carlos Mastronardi

This article lacks sources, please provide them.TheRingess 22:33, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Done. Was there something in there you doubted, or was this just a random request? -- Jmabel | Talk 23:15, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
After effectively requesting a large piece of work, which I did promptly, you could at least answer my question. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:18, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:27, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Samuel Hayden

I saw your note about adding references for the Samuel Augustus Hayden article. I will get around to it in a few days. Will be gone for a couple. Thanks. - Rlvaughn 04:52, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Johann Caspar Fischer

Hello! I saw you added the 'unreferenced' tag to the article. Well, I wrote most of it and I did it the same way I wrote Johann Kaspar Kerll and Giovanni Valentini - by gathering and giving structure to material found on miscellaneous websites and by summarizing the essays found in CD booklets. I guess websites don't count (most information comes from random websites about classical music, I found no website dedicated to Fischer, Kerll or Valentini), and, well, may I cite CD booklets as references? Wouldn't it be too much like advertising (there's just two booklets used - one for Fischer, one for Kerll & Valentini. So it would be like advertising two specific CDs)? Jashiin 13:59, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

I did some research and found the sources for some of those liner notes.. but most were German books and articles from the New Grove dictionary. Apparently all those composers are so obscure noone bothers to write, let alone translate, books about them. I did what I could and added references to all three articles, complete with ISBNs (searched using and I'd appreciate if you looked at what I did and told me if things are right or wrong now :) Jashiin 11:34, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
I removed the unreferenced tag. Thanks for helping me out with this. In future, I'll try to cite my sources :) Jashiin 08:51, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

John R. Brazil

Hi there,

Found the info on the original deleted page, and on the Caterpillar Inc. website. Thanks for the encouragement to source.

Chadlupkes 01:24, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Further reply

Hi. I'm afraid you obviously still haven't looked at the edit history of the article, so you are pretty severely misunderstanding me.

I'm not claiming that it shouldn't have sources. But I didn't write the article, so I'm not sure why you are asking me for them.

The article as I started it gave (a) his name (b) his birth date (c) the fact that he was a tory MP for Ludlow for a particular year range (d) the fact that he stood down. That was it. All the interesting claims about him were added later on by other people and not by me, and also I don't know what sources the other people used.

For the claims I did add, [1] provides some of them. However, I'm not sure what good adding this source would do if the claims of his very controversial political views (which I didn't write about) remain unreferenced. Morwen - Talk 08:53, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Oh, I created it alright, it was just a useless stub when I created it. If you want to ask someone for sources, I'd ask the person who made this edit which included the rather absurd and possibly false claim that he was known as the "Butcher from Ludlow". Of course, they're an anonymous IP who hasn't edited for over a year, so that might be rather tricky. Morwen - Talk 08:58, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Fair enough. Some of it seems plausible, he was a nasty chap by all accounts. But can't find anything not Wikipedia that calls him that. Sorry if I responded harshly, I have made hundreds if not thousands of stubs over the years, and they were generally sort of basic factual information of the type that we didn't place a strong emphasis on referencing back then.
When I do add specific claims to things I've tried to reference, and if there's anything specific I wrote that I hadn't I'm happy to try to find it. Morwen - Talk 09:07, 28 December 2005 (UTC)


That matters in that article are all common knowledge, but I will find some references when I return from my current travels at the end of January. Adam 07:21, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

What I meant was that the information all comes from publicly available sources. Adam 07:55, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

As I get tired of telling people, the whole point of an encyclopaedia is to provide information in a summary form so that people don't have to go and consult obscure and scattered primary sources. As you yourself admit, you don't know the source materials for Acland's biography. But since I do, and have summarised them here, you don't need to. Adam 08:03, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Do you check the accuracy of references in the Britannica? Of course not, because you trust the Britannica as a reliable source. In any case the Britannica doesn't give sources, and neither does any other print encyclopaedia. An encyclopaedia is a source, or at least it's supposed to be. This fetish for sources at Wikipedia shows that not even the people who write for it think it is a real encyclopaedia. Adam 08:43, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Zen Micro

I believe it was you that tagged the zen micro page for weasel words. The article is now in the process of being merged into the Creative Zen page. I took the liberty to edit the content you described as questionable, but ask that you review the merged page for similar content. Creative Zen. Thanks. Mixmatch 17:53, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing it. Mixmatch 08:40, 3 January 2006 (UTC)


I appreciate your welcome to the Wikipedia family.  :) Esrever 03:46, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, here you go...

I award this The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar to TheRingess for his tireless welcoming efforts.

Furthermore, you should consider joining the Welcoming Committee :-). JHMM13 (T | C) 07:30, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about the gender mixup! I've made the change. JHMM13 (T | C) 07:34, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Vladimir Ovchinnikov

Thanks for the welcome! I'm glad you pointed out the incorrect dates. I'm not sure exactly when he was born. :) I haven't found that yet.

mihintale is a public website where information about sri lanka is provided, and in this particular case this text is a translation of a book which is written in sinhalese, No where in the site is it mentioned that the information supplied is copyrighted. the preceding unsigned comment is by Toyya (talk • contribs)

Thanks for your nice welcome

It's a great pleasure to contribute to the worlds finest knowledge source.Thanks for the very useful tips. Cloverleaf 01:56, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

E Club

I removed the tag you added, as "on notable TV show" is not a valid reason for speedy deletion. A TV show is not a real person or persons, and A7 doesn't apply (see WP:CSD). You may wish to AFD the article instead. --Rob 08:49, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Good enough for me TheRingess 08:49, 6 January 2006 (UTC)


Thank you for the welcome =) I'm just wondering if you can help me with something. How can I make my signature show a link to my user talk page as well? Thanks in advance. Leftist 04:18, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome -- Oleo Strut has some reference to Oleo Strut, so does the Shock absorber article. The movie Sir! No Sir! has a lot of references to it, but it's not public yet. It was in the book Weathermen and Rainmakers too.

Thanks again for the help with my page

With your help i was able to format the whole thing the right way... and surprisingly write out every little scrap of knowledge I had about it... wow did i really waste 4 hours writing that!!! Dang... wikipedia... I think im in love... Btw having looked them over i decided you have some pretty cool fractal art. I have no clue what the difference from regular art is but it looks very pretty. I really like floating in satin, Girder box, shrine of the fishies, Loopy mirros, and Gears. Lot of it looks like tie-die shirt made by a hippy who smeared mud on them first :P the effect is quite... interesting to say the least..

I understand perfectly. TheRingess 07:02, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

The Legend of Zelda: Blade of the Ancients

Just a slightly longer explanation as to why we can't speedy hoaxes. Very often people create articles without referances, no matter how much we smack them around. They also often write in an, err, exagerated style. These can coombine to create something that looks a lot like a hoax, and can evade the research of the speedy-tagger and the speedy-deleter.

Thus it's been established (after more discussion than I really want to think about) that it's better for an actual hoax (or quasi-nonsense, in this case) to hang around for five or so days than for something real to get deleted by accident.

My personal feeling is that the 99.992% that are actually junk could be made up for my catching the .008% at WP:DRV, but that's just me.

Keep up the good work, brenneman(t)(c) 07:14, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

I created this account to help update pages, such as my high school page and the "Kawaii" thing. Thanks for welcoming me. :) USSVagrant 08:37, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: Pist.On

Not sure what constitutes a "fan perspective". If you feel this article is too band-serving, I welcome your corrections and comments.

Thanks for the welcome

Today you welcomed Sabine.. It is truly a good thing that we welcome people.. I wrote about it on my blog.. Thanks GerardM 22:26, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for welcome message

Hi! Thank you for your welcome message :-) it is ever so nice that you all do that. Well I would like to take the occasion and invite you to have a look at wiktionary (mine: :-) or maybe at the English one: ... well as you can see I have my never ending problems with inter project links ... I have a note on my computer on how to write them, but it is much easier just to type the url ... as for now (even if late ... I know) Happy 2006! --SabineCretella 22:29, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for welcome message

Hi to you, too! Wikipedia makes the Internet seem magical again. Zzorse 03:18, 9 January 2006 (UTC)


Hey, thanks for the welcome. Shumway 02:53, 11 January 2006 (UTC)


Hey there, was wondering if I could ask a question. If someone posts a question to you in your user talk page, do you reply in your own user talk page or in their user talk page? How would a longer discussion continue, in just one persons user page, or back and forth between talk pages? Hope you can help.. Shumway 21:07, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Kevin Hunter

...has been expanded. Gazpacho 05:52, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Yet Another Thanks For Welcoming

I wouldn't think I'd be welcomed by anyone here. Thanks for your thought and kindness. Solidius 07:24, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

I wouldn't have thought that anyone'd welcome me here... So thanks again! enot 07:57, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, thank you for the welcome...

I am new to Wikipedia, as far as editing, article-writing, etc.

I do have a question. There is a certain administrator who I feel is over-extending his bounds. To whom do I take my complaint? Preferably somebody with a higher level of authority than this individual.


Brad V. 02:06, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Alycia ripley

The author removed the copyvio portion. So, I've taken the liberty to remove the copyvio tag. Also, I've moved the article to Alycia Ripley. utcursch | talk 10:10, 16 January 2006 (UTC)


Hi TheRingess, I'm so excited that I was noticed. I really appreciate your welcome! How did you notice me? ortho 03:20, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Tidying up Les Anciens d'AEGEE

Did some cleaning on Les Anciens d'AEGEE-Europe and removed the cleanup tag. Muumi 01:00, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Dou Wan

I typed up that stub half a year ago while I was doing research into Chinese art history, but I am not doing research into that subject at the moment and no longer have those books and papers, so someone else will have to expand it. —Lowellian (reply) 09:19, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Fair use for Images for a Particular Artist

Hello Ringess. I just did my first edit. It's for the artist Jenny Saville. I'd really like to illustrate it with a few pictures (of course) but when I was about to, Wikipedia reminded me that I didn't have copyright. I e-mailed Jenny at her gallery to get permission, but now I read that her images might be allowed under 'fair use'. I'm confused. Do I need permission or not? And if Jenny DOES give permission, does that mean that those images are now public property. I mean, she's not likely to agree to that! Can you help or direct me to someone who can? You are an artist too so you might know. Thanks. Penguin2006 15:19, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

    • Thanks for your advice. I'll see if I can get hold of Jenny. But artists are famously difficult to contact so it might be a while! In the meantime I'll ask others who edited artists pages how they got their images. :)Penguin2006 01:31, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Juon page tone

Per your suggestion I have rewritten the tone in a less "fanzine" style, which admittedly is something I have to watch as a freelance writer (I had this problem come up in a couple of wrestler bios that I created). Hopefully I have not removed the clean-up and NPOV tags prematurely, but please let me know if I have or if you don't think it's quite "there" yet in terms of neutrality. BronzeWarrior 02:08, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

11:11 AfD

The AfD that you just saw was one closed 8 months ago as "Delete"; the article has since been recreated. If you wish to re-nominate this article, you can create Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/11:11 (2nd nomination). Owen× 18:02, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

It should not have been recreated, but since eight months have passed it is probably wise to have another debate rather than simply speedy delete it. - SimonP 18:13, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Controversial name

Hi, I see you've welcomed All P**fed Up to the wikipedia(no asterisks in the original user ID). However, isn't his ID a breach of Wikipedia's Inappropriate usernames policy? Just wondering. Arno 04:00, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

  • I'm not familiar with that policy. I'm not a sysop, so I can do nothing about the name if it is controversial.

TheRingess 04:15, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

The policy is contained here. I've taken the liberty of pointing this out to the user in question. Arno 04:29, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Offering Help

Thanks for offering help. I have gone on wikipedia before but this is my first account. are you an administrator? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pojojo (talk • contribs) .

I improved user jedi,sith and feminism userboxes on my first day. not bad huh??? `Pojojo 09:27, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Reversion of user page

Hi, Ringess. You're welcome. I wasn't the only one to revert them, either. I dunno – I can't envision having enough time to do as much vandalism as that.

And thanks for getting me to add the sources to Clarice McLean. They were left out through sheer carelessness, i'm afraid. John FitzGerald 00:56, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Vladimir Pokhilko

Ah, sorry about the page. FYI, I had talked to the webmaster at and he (MickoZ had sent an e-mail saying he's all right with me posting the article to Wikipedia. While that was cleared, I posted it to Wikipedia and started linking words in the article. While I tried finding actual dates for the events, I happened upon the exact same article in the SFGate. Seems he copied the article from here! My bad. I had read somewhere, that there is speedier deletion if the author of a page marks a page to be deleted. Is that possible here? How do I do that? (Wikipedia help is a labyrinth) Eptin


Neutral pov? I don't think so you delete article becuase they have advertisment yet you have many articles about other websites and you never stay on the neutral side.

2nd II None

Hi, you tagged this as a speedy but it says they have two albums out. The odds are that they will go down six-nil in afd (where I've sent them), but you never know. Keep up the good work, though! - brenneman{T}{L} 11:17, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome note

As others pointed out - thank you for welcoming me to the information ocean called Wikipedia. Regards, Kirilsimov 21:18, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

All is good with the world, the birds are singing