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sorry, it was a mistake. thanks for correcting. - —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

No problems. Just take a bit care while editing pages in WP. Thanks -- Tinu Cherian - 06:09, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Rahul Raj encounter

SpecialBarnstar.png The Special Barnstar
For your contributions and support, which helped in retaining an important article Rahul Raj encounter on wikipedia. Manoj nav (talk) 10:23, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi Tinucherian, thank you for your contributions and support. Manoj nav (talk) 10:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the Barnster. This effort apparently gave me lots of satisfaction and I dedicate this Barnster to another good user Gppande (talk · contribs). I came to know about this AFD and the article Rahul Raj when I saw Gppande was blocked for alledged sockpuppetry. With the past interactions and knowing the contributions of Gppande, I wasnt willing to believe why the hell would he ever use a sock Kokar (talk · contribs). First of all, it wasnt the article of Gppande and he had not reason or sentiments to try to save it like this. Secondly , as far as I seen, a sock master votes first and the sock only later, which is not the case her. Thirdly I too edit WP a lot for a shared company networks and i fear to think possibly how many disruptive editors are there in the same networks I use. Gppande was blocked by User:Yellowmonkey, another wiki friend. That is why I left him a msg at User_talk:YellowMonkey#Gppande_block to kindly review the 2 day block ( see also User_talk:Gppande#Kokur ). On inspection of Rahul Raj, it may be a BIO violation but I personally felt the incident as such was worth being in Wiki. That is why I copy-edited Rahul Raj encounter and supported keep in the AFD. Your uploaded image was actually a copy viol picture , that is why I had to request it for Speedy deletion. I also nominated the article for WP:DYK and it was successfully shown in the mainpage as a DYK entry on 1 December 2008 . The AFD was also closed to keep. Through this humble effort of mine, I also request Gppande to dont lose heart , reconsider his decision to leave Wikipedia and to continue his good contributions. -- Tinu Cherian - 05:52, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi Tinucherian, thanks a lot for understanding and supporting me through this time. Your words of encouragement have helped me a lot. I have become a victim of WP:COWORKER and learned an important lesson from it. Never, edit WP or any other finance related websites like banks, shares or politically sensitive websites from network which might be used by others. Innocent users can become easy targets - either by accident or by some miscreants. I am not leaving WP or can never do so. My first comment to quit had come out of anger - a knee jerk reaction; sorry for that. Also, I tried to trace Kokar within my organization but have not been able to so due to real life hurdles. I also learned from WP policy that revealing someones identity to prove a point is violation. I do not wish to get into another trouble so I have left it as it is. If Kokar returns, time will prove we are two separate brains. I appreciate your work in saving the Rahul Raj encounter article and even get it promoted to DYK. Something to learn here. Instead of votes, if we think that the article deserves to be on WP, save the article by improving it with as many reliable refs/contents and notable incidents as possible. The day before I was blocked, I did the same with Gothos article and even though I was blocked the AfD resulted in speedy keep. So it does not matter what your vote is. All that matters is your work and contribution to the project. I would definitely continue my contributions but with care and caution from where I am doing so. It is important to protect ourselves first. --GPPande talk! 08:49, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
You have no idea how happy I am to see you back ! Thanks a lot for your kind words,I am humbled. You are absolutely right ! As a wikipedian it is imperative for us to try to save good articles by fixing the issues than merely voting as keep.Please understand that your block was probably an unintentional mistake by YM and it was due to merely coincidental evidences and limited tools available and not a bad report for your contributions to WP. Continue to enjoy your stay in WP and keep up your good contributions. Best wishes -- Tinu Cherian - 09:29, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks --GPPande talk! 10:08, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I was on Wikipedia yesterday also, but was working on Wikinews. Visit Wikinews. News I wrote about home minister is on main page :-) --GPPande talk! 10:15, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Thatz kewl. I am not yet into wikinews yet. Wikipedia takes up lot of my time -- Tinu Cherian - 10:19, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

You do have a sense of 'humour'

I have not laughed at an Edit comment for a long time. Thank you. Purkunna (talk) 18:44, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Jobxavier , Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Jobxavier. Stop Trolling ! . Your username is a combination of Pur and Kunna which is a slang for male & female reproductive organs in malayalam. How mean and dirty. Just like your previous usernames like Horny priests, Nuns skirt upped, Jesus onthecross I see that you have been already blocked by a CU admin as a sock of Jobxavier. 08:02, 2 December 2008 Nishkid64 (Talk | contribs) blocked Purkunna (Talk | contribs) (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite ‎ (Abusing multiple accounts: Jobxavier.) . I request you to not to continue your POV pushing through scores of your socks again. I am really fed up. We have better business in wikipedia to do. -- Tinu Cherian - 04:47, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Rahul Raj encounter

Updated DYK query On 1 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Rahul Raj encounter, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 19:34, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, spank your wide buttocks - here comes the beer

Dionysus Qingdao beer.jpg Have a large and bubbly beer on me.

Let the amber nectar flow all day and night. Let it run down the mountains and through the caverns and across the rich lawns to swamp the streets. Let it rain beer. Let the heavens open and shine forth beer. Let it all be beer. Wonderful beer. And let it be as deep as the heart of a lion.

This is an acknowledgment of your participation in the RfA of: SilkTork *YES!. 19:12, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for participating in my RfA

I just wanted to take a moment to say "thank you" for taking the time and effort to participate in my recent RfA. As you may know, the discussion closed 66/0/1 and I'm now a holder of the mop. I will keep working to improve the encyclopedia and appreciate the trust which you have placed in me. - Dravecky (talk) 00:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

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Hello Tinu,

I am a resident of Chandanapally. The article posted as 'Chandanapally', is not inappropriate! If you check the history of that article, you can see that we created it in 2006. Unfortunately, we didn't have any more informations/photos regarding the church for such a long time. Last month when we had been to India, we could take some snaps and will update it in the article as soon as possible.

Our aim is to make a true exposure to the 'Chandanapally Valiyapally's fame. We saw your article 'St. George Orthodox church' and we appreciate the great effort what you have done. We have taken some detail from your article and posted it in our 'Chandanapally Valiyapally' article. We have also referenced it in our article!

Please understand that we are not posting any inappropriate contents in it, but making 'Chandanapally' searchable in the internet!So I would request you not to revert or redirect to any other articles as we are going to include some more details and snaps.

Thank you very much for your patience and understanding.

-Anitta Jijo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Itgalary (talkcontribs)

Do you know you are not supposed to create redundant articles on the same subject, when there are already articles on it? Your article is Chandanapally Valiyapally is already available at St. George Orthodox Church, Chandanapally. Edit the already existing article and add more contents as appropriate -- Tinu Cherian - 02:31, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi Tinu

Hi Tinu,

Hope u read my mail.

Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Itgalary (talkcontribs)

Replied -- Tinu Cherian - 10:16, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

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Hi. Thanks for including me in the listing, and thanks for your kind comment on my contributions on political parties. --Soman (talk) 14:39, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

A small question of mine is still unanswered... Should I keep you in Indian or Non-Indians list ? :) -- Tinu Cherian - 14:43, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

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Pretty cool that it has Malayalam. --SkyWalker (talk) 23:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

I am also tracking new pages in ml wiki so that I can atleast add one interwiki to the article. My bot TinucherianBot II will do the rest. -- Tinu Cherian - 05:32, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for your message on my talk page! While I am currently based out of Bangalore, I'd be moving out pretty soon. Saw your response on WT:INB as well on Sunil R Nair article. I too felt that it should be deleted but am not sure which way to go about. Drop in a line if you AFD it. TIA. --Gurubrahma (talk) 13:59, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow! Thanks for the barnstar and for the link to no. of edits! I had no idea that I'd be in the top 2500 as I create large articles in one go and as I have been inactive for a long time. Btw, I noticed that you have over 20k edits but you are not an admin yet; nor could I find an RFA in your name. Is it because you're not interested in becoming an admin? I believe that active editors should become admins. Though I haven't interacted much with you or looked through your contributions, I'm sure there would be lots of people willing to nominate you, pl. do consider it. While I'd successfully nominated two candidates so far for the RFA (Redvers and Ganeshk), this was way back in time, over 30 months back. --Gurubrahma (talk) 07:17, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, Guru, for your kind offer. Altough I am regular in 'RFA circles' , I am not yet "ready" for the fire test myself. Infact many kind wikipedians have offered to nominate on and off wiki earlier and I have thankfully declined till now. The main reason is that I am happy doing what I do now. I am looking forward for more content building as of now. Also to get a few GAs and FAs for some personal satisfaction. May be in another 6-9 months, I may re-think of me worthy of being an admin :) .Again, Thanks a lot for your kind words. -- Tinu Cherian - 12:02, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Hindu Taliban

Hi Tinu, I saw your message on User Talk: Vivin's talk page. I totally agree with you. --Singh6 (talk) 20:13, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

But also I am sorry to not agree with Your attempts to glorify Sikh extremism -- Tinu Cherian - 03:38, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Like cake?

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Thank you very much :) That was yummy ! -- Tinu Cherian - 03:24, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


For your barnstar. Much appreciated. :) GizzaDiscuss © 06:54, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

You are welcome . Have a gr8 day ! -- Tinu Cherian - 03:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


I don't know the specific parameters you've considered for the list. I don't think User:Taprobanus is of Indian origin; from his area of interest, I presume he is Sri Lankan. But then, he has contributed a fair amount to India-related articles.-RavichandarMy coffee shop 05:05, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

As you see, there was one list of people with known or declared Indian orgins or indians in WP:EDITS. The new set is for prolific editors in WP:EDITS who are also interested in India related content. Thanks for the note. I will add him to the second list -- Tinu Cherian - 05:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Here is another user Pharaoh of the Wizards. I presume he is Indian, though I am not sure. But he has been editing a lot of India-related articles and doing some vandal-fighting-RavichandarMy coffee shop 12:52, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
I know him,but not sure whether he is an Indian, he even offered my to nom me for RFA :) -- Tinu Cherian - 12:57, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you very much :-) -RavichandarMy coffee shop 05:14, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

-RavichandarMy coffee shop 05:17, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Keep smiling ! -- Tinu Cherian - 05:23, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


Wikipedia Motivation Award Wikipedia Motivation Award
For your excellent work in promoting Wikipedia through your on- and off-Wiki activities RavichandarMy coffee shop 06:41, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, dude. I am humbled -- Tinu Cherian - 06:43, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Allaroundamazingbarnstar.png All Around Amazing Barnstar
Awarded to Tinucherian for his all round contributions right from articles to running bots. Keep it up. Please tag some articles for me. KensplanetTalkContributions 07:32, 5 December 2008 (UTC) & Ncmvocalist (talk) 11:33, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Kens ! Btw congratulations on being in news :) -- Tinu Cherian - 07:34, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
O No. Those are all Blogs. Only NDTV is news. Just creating the article is not sufficient I think to be in the news. Something different if I would have gone there, shot pictures, and added it here. KensplanetTalkContributions 07:37, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank You

Thank you, Tinu. Very kind of you. Regards.--GDibyendu (talk) 08:15, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Very motivating. --Redtigerxyz Talk 13:22, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

re: The Indian Barnstar of National Merit

Hi Tinu. Thanks. I feel honoured. And slightly guilty that I don't edit as frequently as I used to. :-) -- Sundar \talk \contribs 13:04, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

This should pull you back to more activity as before :) -- Tinu Cherian - 13:07, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Let me sneak in my thanks, for the barn star.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 15:52, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
You are welcome. Looking forward for more FAs from you -- Tinu Cherian - 16:07, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I echo Sundar's words. Thank you for the barnstar. By the way, dont you think it's about time we had a second admin from Kerala?--thunderboltz(TALK) 16:46, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

 :P Thanks.. Not me now... I am enjoying doing things I do now :) If you havesomeone else in mind, let me know,I may be happy for a co-nom. Actually there are some good wikipedians in ( many are admins in ml) but there are not active in -- Tinu Cherian - 16:51, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Do let me know. :) --thunderboltz(TALK) 18:33, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks from me too, your barnstar is appreciated, although I have been very busy with other things over the past year. Also pleased to make your acquaintance -- Samir 18:39, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
You are welcome. Compliation of WP:IND EDITS and further discussion at WT:INB helped me and many 'other late entries' to know some of the veterans of Indian wiki. Take care -- Tinu Cherian - 18:44, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the barnstar. Much appreciated. :) Your edit stats made me remember some nice wikipedians from the past. One of them had contributed 12 FAs. Hope they come back sometime. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 23:24, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
You are welcome . Hope he returns soon. Did he give up or lost his adminship too ? -- Tinu Cherian - 03:27, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much :) I'm busy in real life now, but hope to active back soon :) utcursch | talk 02:44, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
You are welcome . Have a gr8 day !-- Tinu Cherian - 03:27, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


Thanks Tinucherian for the barnstar. I just realized that this was the first for me in over two years. deeptrivia (talk) 20:59, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 :) (Ekabhishek (talk) 15:49, 5 December 2008 (UTC))
 ;) -- Tinu Cherian - 16:07, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Tinu, my edits have crosses 8K. Please make me second last in the table. /\ KensplanetTalkContributions 16:46, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Is it Ok that I update it when WP:EDITS is changed , bcoz the Indian list is made as a subset of the WP:EDITS ? -- Tinu Cherian - 10:38, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

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Hi Tinu, thanks for the barnstar though its been a long while since I made meaningful contributions. Real life commitments have completely taken over! Keep up the good work you are doing here... — Lost(talk) 16:36, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the barnstar


Thank you for the barnstar. It is much appreciated. Could you kindly move the barnstar from my talk page to my userpage here? Kind regards. Wiki Raja (talk) 23:59, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for your careful consideration at my successful RfA. The "helpful and trustworthy person" comment was generous and appreciated. Please let me know on my talk page if you have any suggestions for me. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 04:03, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

How did you filter Indian editors from Wikipedia:EDITS

Thanks for Barnstar. This 'most prolific editors from India' is helpful, but just wondering how did you filtered Indian editor from this big list Wikipedia:EDITS. Will it be possible to have column like Active/Inactive as I guess some users are now inactive e.g. User:P.K.Niyogi. Also will it be possible to have another column mentioning prime contribution area, for me its categorization of pages. If such columns are added, users can themselves put info into it. Thanks, Vjdchauhan (talk) 07:56, 7 December 2008 (UTC).

I did it manually but comparing the usernames of declared or known Indians based on my knowledge or from our WT:INB archives pages and Category:Indian Wikipedians with the usernames in WP:EDITS. Ok.I will try to incorporate their active or inactive status , and other contributions like GA,FA, DYKs etc -- Tinu Cherian - 10:43, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


awarding barn stars as an attention whoring tactic is in extremely poor taste. (talk) 16:26, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back User:Jobxavier ( a banned editor). Thank you for your comments.Having said that , You truely amase me ! Seriously ! Your never ceasing attempts of POV and continous trolling is extremely hilarious. ( For others, See also Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Jobxavier ,Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Jobxavier , Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Jobxavier and Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Jobxavier ) -- Tinu Cherian - 18:18, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Also read my reply on Wales's talk page. (talk) 03:47, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Ok , so you are User:Kuntan, another Banned editor -- Tinu Cherian - 03:58, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Indian edits

I wonder what would happen if you included everybody in that list fairly not just Indians. There are some editors who have worked a lot on India but are not Indian. Count Blofeld 18:22, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I didnt exactly get your point , But If I understand what you mean, we at Wikipedia_talk:INB#Indian_Wikipedians_by_no_of_edits we are trying to appreciate and encourage the contributors from India and also non-Indians ( see second table) who have contributed to India related content. ( please notice you name is on the top the list already :) ) -- Tinu Cherian - 18:29, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Yep I was kinda wondering as I'm pretty sure I've notched up the edits on India related topics, particularly Bollywood and Indian cinema. I was just interested to see what thats all.

Oh I get!! I thought the list was for number of edits on Indian related articles not overall. Ohhh in that case I wouldn't even have mentioned it. I wanted to know how many edits on Indian pages I'd made, that might be more useful! Count Blofeld 18:36, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I really dont know how to achieve this result : One method is to make a tool to compare each editors' contributions on articles in Category:WikiProject_India_articles . But we sincerely thank you for your help and contributions to India and Indian cinema related content -- Tinu Cherian - 19:03, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. It was just a thought anyway. Best Count Blofeld 19:06, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

He's back ...

Although not as active as he used to be, and probably won't be for a while yet. Right now, I do think that the new article of the month idea seems to have worked, although such a limited goal is kind of small for as large a group as the Christianity project. Something like the "Contest" unit that WP:MILHIST has might work better, although for it to work optimally we would probably want to be able to allocate points based on importance of the subject within Christianity as well as other criteria. My own very tenative hypothesis would be to start a list of articles which would benefit from the review of people knowledgable about various branches of Christianity to see that all relevant POVs on Baptism for instance are given at least their minimum required space. So maybe allocating points on the basis of final quality of the article/review for inclusion of minority views would be one criteria, and the others being the comparative importance of the subject. This could be determined both on the basis of the article's "Importance" ranking within one or more Christian groups, as well as potentially by its inclusion in any WP:1.0 release editions. The details still need to be worked out, though. I'm hoping to be a bit more active come January, and hope to be able to try to make a concrete proposal then. John Carter (talk) 22:29, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

welcome back , John... Hope you get to be more active soon... -- Tinu Cherian - 02:32, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


Email, Tinu. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 02:40, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Replied ! Thanks a lot ! -- Tinu Cherian - 02:47, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


Hi, I came across my old talk page today. Please note that I have nothing to do with Jobxavier (See Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Knownot). I used to vandalize the Bajrang Dal and related articles for fun/pov but I have stopped. I am using a new account now, don't sock and don't even touch any India-related articles. Its allowed by policy. I don't vandalize anymore so please don't run anymore checkusers on me (have they already done that?), I don't want to see my account blocked again/previous identity revealed. I'm not Jobaxvier. Thanks

Oh and by the way I'm not "banned" (as you said on the report). It was a 2 week "block" that was lifted by Wknight[1] so I think I'm allowed to continue editing with a clean account..I hope you understand thanks (talk) 13:27, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for the your changed mind and Ur decision to work in WP productively. In good faith I have removed the case of sock aganist you with jobxavier. Enjoy your stay in Wikipedia , dont hesitate to ask me in case you need any help -- Tinu Cherian - 14:24, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks (talk) 14:56, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Anyone that writes truth about the Kottoors , Poothrikkas and Sephys are still Job Xavier socks, Tinu? You are funny!! (talk) 18:29, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

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I see that you have been tagging the Indian village articles for Prod / Speedy deletion. I see that you are a relatively inexperienced user in Wikipedia and let me try to help you.

First of all, the way you tagged is completely not per convention , with you not giving a suitable reason. I suggest you to kindly read the Wikipedia:SD#Criteria and Wikipedia:Proposed deletion.

On the notability of villages and towns, It is widely accepted that Inhabited places in the world are inherently notable and no article will be deleted on notability as per same. The articles I have created is about the places in India ( missing in WP) which has a population of over 5000 ( the average population is above 15000 ). Moreover the data is backed up by reliable sources from the census data of the government.

The article is started as stub ones with minimum information available from census data like name,district, state, total/male/female population etc. People are likely to people are more likely to expand a stub than start an article means that all the place stubs that would be created will be likely to get expanded in future. And that is why these articles are created.

Read also Wikipedia:Notability (geography) and FritzpollBot discussion at the village pump. Have a nice day-- Tinu Cherian - 06:12, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

  • Hi, Please don't get offended by someone, who has nominated your article for deletion. I have added speedy deletion tag in good faith, as article is too short. Request you to improve these articles and don't add articles just to improve your edit count. If that tag is misapplied to your article, some other editor will def. remove that tag. Have a good day!!! Quality check 12:59, 11 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Quality check (talkcontribs)
I wasnt anywhere offended by nominating my articles for SD/PROD. My concern was your ignorance in the usage of SD/PD tags to articles. If you arent aware, most articles are build in Wikipedia from stubs stage( not as FA/GAs directly). I am reputed editor and I dont have to add articles to pump up edit count. These new article creations are trials similar to the task of FritzpollBot but had to abandonded due to lack of time of Fritzpoll. Once this is stable with tools like AWB and CSV loader, I will be transfering the job to my bot TinucherianBot after a BRFA.Do you know that this task is undertaken after consulation with many other admins? Please dont get angry when others try to correct your mistakes. Your highly misplaced tag articles was removed by admins ( which is waste of time for both the people) and I see that you have been advised to you not to tag them again.Please dont waste others' time ! Btw please remember to sign yourself by golden code ~~~~ ( 4 tildes) while commenting on talk pages. Please dont use 'Raw Signatures' with no wikilinks to your user page/talk page.It is common practice to include a link to your user page or user talk page (often both). At least one of those two pages must be linked from your signature to allow other editors simple access to your talk page and contributions log ( see alsoWikipedia:SIGN#Internal_links ). Enjoy your stay in Wikipedia...Happy editing, buddy ! -- Tinu Cherian - 13:27, 11 December 2008 (UTC)


Beware! I like writing long emails. ;-)--thunderboltz(TALK) 18:26, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

 :) Read that ! Thanks ! I will reply soon ! -- Tinu Cherian - 03:39, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Bot tagging wrong article for Men's Health (magazine)

TinucherianBot tagged the redirect article talk:Men's Health as belonging to WP Magazines (diff). The correct article for the Men's Health magazine is Men's Health (magazine).

It tagged the article once before (which made me aware that the redirect had been pointed to the magazine article, but the talk page redirect was pointed to the general article on Men's health. I sorted out the redirects, and put the magazine tag in the right place. But since the bot re-tagged the redirect, I assume something still needs to be fixed.

I will remove the bot's tag on the redirect, but wasn't sure how to keep the bot from re-tagging the article. (Or why it is tagging the wrong article.) Thanks. Zodon (talk) 20:21, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I will look into the issue soon. Sorry for the inconvenience -- Tinu Cherian - 06:36, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi Tinucherian

Thank you for the DYK Medal! Infact its you who deserves the prize. I am out of town these day for work and will contribute for wikipedia once I am back and free. Manoj nav (talk) 06:32, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words. Looking forward for more articles on Bihar from you -- Tinu Cherian - 06:37, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Excellent work deserves praise

Hello! I was doing New Page Patrol and I saw your wonderful new entries relating to India's village. You are doing wonderful work! Please accept this as a token of my appreciation:

Tireless Contributor Barnstar.gif The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
In tribute to your successful efforts in improving the content and character of Wikipedia. Keep up the excellent work! Ecoleetage (talk) 13:47, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
thanks a lot for your kind words. Your motivation should inspire me for the herculean task ahead of creating the huge no of articles. For more details see the section "Indian villages" -- Tinu Cherian - 15:38, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Indian villages

Hi I see nobody followed up my suggestions to create the new categories by district? Indian villages need a hell of a lot of work and organisation. Personally I also prefer standard infoboxes. Also if you are starting some without coordinates and a map can you please include {{coord missing|India}} . This way Anemone can follow up with it. It places them in Category:India articles missing geocoordinate data

Also articles like Thuravoor Thekku need not have two stub categories. The geo district one is the idea otherwise the main Kerala one gets clogged up. This of course was why the district geo stubs were proposed in the first places. Best The Bald One White cat 14:02, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

I had actually decided to start from where Frizpoll had abandonded the task, atleast for Indian settlements as a beginning. Looking at the census data, the total Number of inhabited villages in India is 593,731 .Even The settlements above population of 5000 people should be atleast over 2,00,000 ". Yes, it a long way to go..Currenly I am doing trial edit creation with articles of Kerala villages on my primary account. Once it is stablised , I will use TinucherianBot ( or one of yet to be born sisters :) ) for this purpose. I am trying to improve the code as of now with tools like AWB and CSV loader.An example of article will look like Velliyamattom.

The next herculean task is the compilation of required data from [2] in the CSV form. The population data can be retrived only by each district at a time.Co-ordinate details are not available in then Indian census data. As for infoboxes , I use {{Infobox Indian Jurisdiction}} which is customised for Indian data. should I also add Category:India articles missing geocoordinate data , bcoz the above inbox wil automaically add state level cats like Category:Kerala location articles needing coordinates -- Tinu Cherian - 15:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

OK sounds good, although I always think the standard infobox is the most understandable for editors who may wish to edit them. It is a great shame as yet there has not been a bot to aid us. Imagine we had 593,731 well referenced articles with reliable sources. I dare to say that eventually we will have it covered but it will take decades at present rate. I find it very frustrating that wikimedia and a lot of editors seem to care little about the content on this site and the best way in the long term to generate content. If User:TinucherianBot has the potential to do this and standardise articles I am behind you 110% The Bald One White cat 15:52, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the continued support and encouragement. -- Tinu Cherian - 16:02, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

If you plan on running this, can we please sort out the categories first as I once proposed? Wasn't it 464 categories? For example Velliyamattom would be categorizes as Category:Cities, towns and villages in Idukki District

The Bald One White cat 15:56, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

I dont have any objection, but the present convention is that cities/towns and villages are seperated. like Category:Cities and towns in Idukki district and Category:Villages in Idukki district ? -- Tinu Cherian - 16:02, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

I know but there are not likely to be many cities or towns in each district in comparison to villages. If there are only one or two by district then there is no point in seperating them. Howeve rif there are at least 10 towns oer district I have no objection but the reason they were merged is to avoid confusion over what is a village or town The Bald One White cat 16:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

But the word district must be capitalised as District as this is the category convention all across wikipedia and articles from most countries are called something Province or something District rather than "district". The Bald One White cat 16:34, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

OK. I will work on them for the creation of the cats for the 611 districts of India -- Tinu Cherian - 16:59, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Please can we create the new categories as a priority. The more stubs you start before the more work it will entail later re categorizing them. I suggest we keep the cities and towns in Kerala for example intact and just reorganize the village categories by district. I would also strongly propose creating navigation templates by area to improve coordination between articles as Indian geo articles seem to have very few templates. The Bald One White cat 11:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

  • I can create the cats before the articles creation, but I felt that people may start deleting them ( as no content) by the time I have articles in them.
  • Since the no of villages in India is huge, we should reorganise by district.
  • Yes, templates for villages in a district is a good idea ?

-- Tinu Cherian - 11:40, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Nobody said you have to create 611 in one go!! Just reorganize it state at a time, Anyway there are enough existing articles to probably constitute creating them all now. If any of them have a low number then place a {pop cat} note inside them. If you like I can create a template which instructs editors not to delete any new cats as it is part of a reorganization porces swhich will result in a greater coverage on Indian villages The Bald One White cat 12:02, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good.. :) -- Tinu Cherian - 12:04, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

A good example to follow is Category:Villages in Poland. Organised exactly in the way I'd expect India to be and also has nav templates for villages at the bottom of articles. I take it Indian districts also have sub districts? If there are too many villages by district to constitute nav tmeplates I mean like 500 + villages thenyou could create nav templates by sub district but categorise them as Villages in ... District. Just like Poland. This way we have a highly organised and concentrated group of articles and things will develop very well this way. It will take a major effort but once I;ve finished with Nepal I will make it one of my priorities to help you set it up The Bald One White cat 12:08, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

OK I've created Template:Indian pop cat to assist you. I see the reordering begun a while back in places e.gCategory:Villages in Andhra Pradesh so as the convention already seems to be with a lowercasing for district I have no objection to continuing this trend as long as all of India is split consistently in this way The Bald One White cat 12:19, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

The template for each subdistrict would be also gud for Indian villages but I guess it itself is a huge task. Btw Thanks for helping out ! Btw I had started with a few district subcats ( 5-7) with smaller case. How do you think I shud proceed,lower /upper case for Districts ?Tell me, I will follow that convention hereafter -- Tinu Cherian - 12:24, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

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Well perhaps a bot can do something like that like it did with Poland a while back in regards to sub district templates there undoubtedly thousands that need to be made. Me personally I always try to capitalise Province or District as it gives it an air of governance. However I've just been reading a thread from 2006 where User:Tobi Conradi attempted to move all the districts to capitals but was reverted by Nichalp. Looking around the convention for India seems to be smaller casing so to avoid any potential conficts I think it would be best to resume with lower casing for categories too seems as int the present form the district articles are in lower casing. Anyway I'm about to create the categories for Kerala so once they are created you can begin depopulating the village in Kerala category perhaps using AWB to asisst you. The Bald One White cat 12:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

OK here they are:

The idea is that you simplify categorisation as much as possible as avoid categorising the article in two categories so remove "Villages in Kerala" or even "Idukki district" from a village articles and categorize it purely as "Villages in Idukki district". Cool? So now the Villages in Kerala cat needs complete emptying, Happy editing! The Bald One White cat 12:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Urgh small problem. I just recategorised Achickal and your templates seme to have automatic categories which place them in "Villages in Kerala" which we want removed. Can you sort this? The Bald One White cat 12:50, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

The culprit is {{Infobox Indian Jurisdiction}}

<!-- ---->|village = {{#ifeq:{{{state_name|}}}|Andhra Pradesh|{{#ifexist:Category:Villages in {{{district|}}} district|[[Category:Villages in {{{district|}}} district]]|}}|[[Category:Villages in {{{state_name|}}}{{#ifeq:{{{state_name|}}}|Punjab|_(India)|}}]]}}
This shud probably be fixed ! -- Tinu Cherian - 13:09, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes I know I asked Nichalp to fix it. The Bald One White cat 13:30, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok. I saw that. Hopefully Nich will respond soon. Btw one more doubt .. What does {{coord missing|India}} do? Will AnimoneBot find the actual co-ordinates and add them to article if the template is present ? -- Tinu Cherian - 13:37, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

I would ask User:The Anome about that. It seems like you have missing coordinates organized by state so it shouldn't be a problem The Bald One White cat 13:41, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

if that is the case, I neednot add {{coord missing|India}} , right ? -- Tinu Cherian - 13:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


You have an enviable sense of encyclopedicity, Tinu. In Tamil Nadu, coastal Kerala, etc. there are latrines used by hundreds of people each day. Why don't try creating articles on them using some bots or scripts? (talk) 15:50, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Kuntan, what mental satisfaction do you get by all these ? -- Tinu Cherian - 15:55, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Jimbo's Page

Maybe you didn't notice the part that said "you may edit this page" JJ Cool D 02:35, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Not only Jimbo's page, every page in Wikipedia "says" You may edit it. We may need to follow our commonsense and what is appropriate to add content in each page. -- Tinu Cherian - 03:09, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


Thank you Addshore, Wish you the same... -- Tinu Cherian - 01:44, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


Let us keep discussion on the page.Pectoretalk 05:20, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia Weekly Episode 67

Hey! Wikipedia Weekly Episode 67: Fundraising Interview has been released. You can listen and comment at the episode's page and, as always, listen to all of the past episodes at WODUPbot 06:57, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

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I've been avoiding this for too long....

Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Needs_resolution:_Are_places_inherently_notable.3F - I've initiated a question that I feel needs asking and which you may be interested in Fritzpoll (talk) 08:31, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I have also commented. -- Tinu Cherian - 09:55, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes thats the idea, sorry though can I sort the colour? The Bald One White cat 12:57, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Best to just name the templates as just "Thiruvananthapuram district". It then will be possible to add landmarks or notable other content to the templates. Also articles which are (Village) it shouldn't be in capitals and also it should be etc Archol, Kerala rather than (Village) The Bald One White cat 13:27, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

For instance see Alamcode now. I've edited Andoorkonam as an example to how I would create the article. If you don't like it let me know but I feel that from a world viewpoint it would be easier to understand. The Bald One White cat 14:16, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid I think you're going to need a wider community consensus on what you're planning to do, Tinu. Please hold off on investing too much time and effort into this project until the community at large can comment on it Fritzpoll (talk) 15:45, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Geocoding for coordinates

Hey! Thanks for the message. But my current solution is to use geopy to get the information I need from the Yahoo! Maps API. Check out geopy here:

Thanks! Kumar Appaiah (talk) 06:00, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks buddy -- Tinu Cherian - 06:02, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

That would be good idea. P.S. why have you nominated a category for deletion? You should have contacted me and said the other one exists! The Bald One White cat 17:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

You had added the category to the template but not created it. So I had created it... But later found that one such already exists. So decided to delete the one which I created :) -- Tinu Cherian - 17:27, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Indian district templates

I have nominated Category:Indian district templates (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for merging into Category:India district templates (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. -- Tinu Cherian - 07:52, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Content box

Hi! I want to get rid of this content box on my userpage. Can you help?-RavichandarMy coffee shop 02:58, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Article bot

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Hello, Tinucherian. You have new messages at Fritzpoll's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Sorry if I seem grumpy - I am on your side! Fritzpoll (talk) 10:35, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the cookie :) Though I partly understand your concerns, let us do what is best for Wikipedia :D As far as consensus of the community, Verfiable settlments are inherently notable is the status quo. -- Tinu Cherian - 10:57, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

[citation needed] - where does that last statement appear in policy/guideline? The consensus in many venues has not supported that statement Fritzpoll (talk) 11:19, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Common_outcomes#Places, Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(Geographic_locations)#A_census_as_a_source_of_notability , Wikipedia:Notability (geography) , Wikipedia:Notability (Geographic locations) -- Tinu Cherian - 11:22, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
None of those proposed (not actual) Notability guidelines have any consensus, the discussions consist of only a handful of editors at best and so don't represent a community consensus, and the AfD/Common_outcomes#Places doesn't mean anything in the context of creating articles en masse via an automated process, as was determined during the FritzpollBot discussion. So the answer to my question appears to be...nowhere? Fritzpoll (talk) 11:25, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
We have always seen this opinions everywhere, isnt it very blatant that most people in the community think this way ? -- Tinu Cherian - 11:32, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Not to me, based on my going and asking people this very question and getting the answer "No" Fritzpoll (talk) 12:58, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Alright AnomieBOT is done.

You can run your bot for WP:Physics when you have time (see last archive if you don't remember.)Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβςWP Physics} Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβςWP Physics} 05:33, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for leaving a note again. My bot is curently working on another task on WP:MAG. I will attend to your task soon. -- Tinu Cherian - 14:30, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Has your bot completed its work on WP:MAG?Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβςWP Physics} 17:14, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Doing... : The bot, TinucherianBot (talk · contribs) , is working on this now -- Tinu Cherian - 12:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Cool beans. Thanks a bunch.Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβςWP Physics} 12:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
No probs, I apologize for the delay. Was busy with many other tasks and real life stuff too -- Tinu Cherian - 12:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Not a problem. I just thought of sometimes. After it's done with Category:Unassessed physics articles of Unknown-importance, could you run it through Category:Stub-Class physics articles of Unknown-importance? There shouldn't be much to change, but we'll take any help we can in assessing articles.Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβςWP Physics} 12:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Why so? You wanted me to autoassess Category:Unassessed physics articles based on other WikiProject assessments on the same talk page ( like this, right? -- Tinu Cherian - 12:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Yup.Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβςWP Physics} 12:53, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
So what exactly do you want me to do with Category:Stub-Class physics articles of Unknown-importance , those articles are already assessed as stubs ,right ? Category:Unassessed physics articles has all unassessed articles ( for class) with or without importance added. -- Tinu Cherian - 13:03, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Yes they are, but some project might have updated other ratings and not the physics ratings. It's a low-priority task, so if you have more pressing ones, do them first.Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβςWP Physics} 13:33, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done : Autoassessed approx, 550 articles of the 1370 WP:PHY unassessed articles. -- Tinu Cherian - 16:01, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

WP:AUS mailouts

Hi Tinu. ARe you available for newspaper mailouts? YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 03:46, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done : Around 301 talkpages were delivered with full content or link only content -- Tinu Cherian - 09:02, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks again! YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 07:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
You're welcome :) -- Tinu Cherian - 07:15, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Kollam problem

Should this Category:Villages in Kollam District actually be in this Category:Villages in Kollam district? which was created a few hours later. If so is there a bot to make the changes? Misarxist 09:18, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Category:Villages in Kollam district is the one that should be retained per conventions. May be we should try as CFD and ask for a merge? -- Tinu Cherian - 09:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done : see below -- Tinu Cherian - 09:25, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Villages in Kollam District

I have nominated Category:Villages in Kollam District (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for merging into Category:Villages in Kollam district (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. -- Tinu Cherian - 09:24, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


BoNM - India.png The Indian Barnstar of National Merit
For your creation of dozens of new articles on Indian villages, I award you this barnstar. Thanks for all your hard work! Graymornings(talk) 12:52, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks :) .. So sweet of you -- Tinu Cherian - 12:54, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Uchagaon really is looking a lot better than before. Maybe still a tad on the short side but a lot of new geo articles started are considerable worse. Where are you getting the coordinates from? The Bald One White cat 16:47, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Yahoo maps. -- Tinu Cherian - 17:00, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

We could really do with getting some new state maps though The Bald One White cat 16:53, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi Tinu,

Thank you for the barnstar :). Also apologize for the delay in leaving this note. I've been very busy in RL pretty much all of 2008. Thanks again. Sarvagnya 21:23, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Re: WikiProject Tagging

Hi there , Looks like Richard is busy in real life and havent edited for over a month. If Richard couldnot help in another 2-3 days, please drop a note on my talk page. TinucherianBot may be able to help you out with the same task , if Richard is busy. Thanks to kind Richard , he had also shared the auto assessment code with my bot. -- Tinu Cherian - 04:48, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey Tinucherian, I never did get a response back from Richard. WikiProject Magazines, is still in need of article tagging and it would be great if your bot could help. Thanks, αЯβιτЯαЯιŁΨθ (talk) 15:44, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey Tinucherian, I haven't heard from you in a while now, please let me know if you could help with WikiProject Magazines article tagging. It would be an enormous help, thanks. ARBITRARILY0 (talk) 23:33, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Can I do it on monday 8th dec ? My bots are occupied with some other task as of now -- Tinu Cherian - 05:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Yes, Monday would be great! Thanks so much for helping out! Arbitrarily0 (talk) 01:44, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Doing... : TinucherianBot is working on this -- Tinu Cherian - 07:31, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks a lot TinuCherian! It's a great help, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 12:17, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
You are welcome... Will let you know when it is completed... currently I am adding the WP:MAG project banner and assessing as stubs for articles in Category:Magazine stubs and its subcategories ( except Category:Academic journal stubs ). Should I tag Category:Academic journal stubs also ? Should I also add the project banner to articles in Category:Magazines ? -- Tinu Cherian - 12:26, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
I think that it would be better not to tag any academic journal articles, because they are not all magazines (fortunately, most of these articles are already tagged by WikiProject Academic Journals). But yes, Category:Magazines should be tagged with the project banner. Thanks again for working on this! Arbitrarily0 (talk) 12:41, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Roger that!  :) -- Tinu Cherian - 12:55, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
I copy you - 10-4 ;) Arbitrarily0 (talk) 02:59, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi again Tinucherian. Thanks again for continuing to use your bot for WP:Mags tagging. I have an interest in creating a bot for myself, but I have absolutely no idea where to start. I skimmed through Wikipedia:Creating a bot, but only got more confused. I was wondering if you would help guide me along the bot creation process. Don't feel obligated, especially if you don't have the time, but I would greatly appreciate it if you would at least point me in the right direction. Thanks again, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 03:11, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Surely I will help you. Please bear with me for a few days. It needs a bit of long writeup. -- Tinu Cherian - 03:14, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Great, thanks! Please take your time (I'm not in a hurry). Thanks so much, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 03:20, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done : with the WP:MAG Tagging. I have tagged the articles in 1 - 3 levels of subcategories in Category:Magazines . I couldn't go too deep bcoz I have to personally look for possibility of any false positive articles in them. If you think there is some more cats to tagged,please let me know of the category and I will run my bot over them. Meanwhile this is how to run and use a bot like mine for WikiProject tagging :-
This is a AWB based bot. AWB can be used by human assissted edits too . Therefore you can get experienced on using the tool and then later create a bot account, file a Bot approval and then do with the bot accounts. The good thing of flagged bot accounts is that you need to save it manually for each edits.

This is how to use the AWB tool :
1) Download AWB from Wikipedia:AWB#.282.29_Download . You need to get AWB approval to use this. You can do this here . If approved, your name will be added to the CheckPage . Await for the approval before using AWB.
2) Extract it to a folder.
3) Kingbotk/Plugin that comes with AWB is very useful for tagging for WikiProject banners. Move the plugin .dll file to AWB folder . Start AutoWikiBrowser.exe and File (Top selection menu) > Log in . Give your wikipedia Login username and passwd .
4) Select from AWB , Plugins (Top selection menu) > Load Plugins > Kingbotk AWB Plugin.dll
5) Now you get Kingbotk AWB Plugin at Plugins Tab, you can select standard wikiprojects "India Plugin" or "Add generiic template" for other projects. Once selected you may need to configure with the project banner template details. 6) Now Select "Category" from the left side drop menu "Source" and then enter a category name in the box below
7) Click "Make list", let the list load up.
8) Do " Remove dupes" and "Filter out non main space "
9) "Convert to talk pages "
10) CAUTION:Dont select Category(Recursive) if you are not sure of all the sub categories
11) Dont forget to give appropriate Edit summary in the "Start" Tab.
12) Unselect "Doesnt Exist" from the "Skips" tab
13) Go to the Plugin Tab ( bottom) and click "Start the Process".
14) Click "Save" if u r ok with the changes else click 'Ignore'.

Have fun. Let me know if you have any doubts -- Tinu Cherian - 13:13, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Great, thanks for tagging the WP:MAG articles! Now the WikiProject is off to a good start. Also, thanks these AWB instructions. I'll let you know if I encounter any problems. Thanks again!! Arbitrarily0 (talk) 00:31, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

{{Belgaum-geo-stub}} and {{Bagalkot-geo-stub}}

Hi - I see you have recently created one or more new stub types. As it states at Wikipedia:Stub, at the top of most stub categories, and in many other places on Wikipedia, it is recommended that new stub types are proposed prior to creation at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, in order to check whether the new stub type is already covered by existing stub types, whether it is named according to stub naming guidelines, whether it is otherwise correctly formatted, whether it reaches the standard threshold for creation of a new stub type, and whether it crosses existing stub type hierarchies. Your new stub type is currently listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries - please feel free to make any comments there as to any rationale for this stub type. And please, in future, consider proposing new stub types first! Grutness...wha? 00:43, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I have created them as it was non-controversal as already other district stubs for some states of India is already present. Example {{Kollam-geo-stub}} and other subtemplates of {{Kerala-geo-stub}}. As we are gearing up for making articles for lots of inhabiated villages of India, it is important to make district level stub template for all the 611 districts of Kerala.Should the template have the district level cats also instead of state level cats ? ( Replied there also )-- Tinu Cherian - 02:08, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Tinu, here is how Stub proposal proess works. All new stub templates and categories need to be proposed first at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals. This is to make sure if the new stub type is required, formatted correctly etc. Also if there are <65 articles in a stub category, the articles get up-merged to the parent category. You will have to propose all the district level stubs at the stub sorting proposal page. If the district has <65 articles, then the template will use the state category otherwise it will have it's own. The stub sorting people will create the templates and categories once the discussin is complete. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 02:22, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks guys for the pointers, I wasnt aware stub templates have to created by stub sorting people. I went a bit bold :) I will propose them at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals. -- Tinu Cherian - 02:35, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I do a lot of work with the stub sorting group. 60 articles is the criteria. What needs doing? OK please join in at the Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2008/December The Bald One White cat 23:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks ! I will join the 'party' :) -- Tinu Cherian - 09:24, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

fatwa living with death and theart by jacky trevane is not truth

salam .. I am omar ( maged in fatwa story )... i am her real husband .. i want to say that this woman lives her lifes in illusion .. she wrote this book only to collect money n' to keep ma daughters away from me lovely daughters sara and dina ..:D .. she want to distort ma pic to ma daughters they stay away from me .. and also to distort ma reputation..i want to point out something ( why she wrote this book after 16 years ?) and ( why she bear all the torment that she had seen in egypt above 8 years ?? and also we had 2 lovely daughters sara and dina .. sara ma eldest daughter.. she loves me very much i am sure about that .. she cried when her mother kidnap her and told to me " i love u dad i want to saty with u " but at this time i didnt know why she told me that :( anyway i am ready to prove to every one want to know the truth i have many document and pictures of her and ma daughters .. and she tarveled every year to engaland same as she want .. finally i hope anyone to help me to prove the truth and to see ma daughters and to face her with all ma proof,..notice ( she close her website( she afraid :D:D ) anyone want to contact me this is ma no.(0103919746)ma email( —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maged eltafesh (talkcontribs) 02:23, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Please report your concerns at ANI -- Tinu Cherian - 03:45, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

License status of PIB images

Hi Tinu Cherian,

the Public Info Bureau (PIB - has some absolutely amazing pics of Indian leaders and tech, especially of the freedom struggle, which can be PD uploaded. The copyright status of their other images are unclear, and I have asked some journos who have said that we can use them... however, I have also blanket messaged them asking for information about this. Hopefully, they should reply soon.

If they do reply positively, how do we take this forward, as in, where do we inform ppl about it, and how do we get the admins to agree to this???

Thanks Sniperz11@CS 07:42, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the initiative. Let us see how they reply. Once we get, we will take this at WT:INB for opinions -- Tinu Cherian - 10:13, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
K... thanks... hope they do reply soon. P.S. Once they reply, I'll fwd u the mail also. I've sent u a test mail to send over my mail address. Cheers. Sniperz11@CS 11:00, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

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Message from JSR

Most recently I have rewritten ISRO, Vainu Bappu, and History of measurement systems in India articles. You are invited to take take a look!

JSR 0562 19:42, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Advice required

Please advise on merging Konni, Kerela (note that Kerala has been misspelt) with Konni (India). Reason is that the latter is a broader term.

Since the title is wrong, initially I tried to move Konni, Kerela to Konni, Kerala but it returned an error saying page already exists. Interestingly, Konni, Kerala was redirecting to itself. You will notice it if you see the History section.
Hence I put a redirect in Konni, Kerala to point to Konni (India).
Then I cleaned up Konni (India) to some extent with some copy-edits. I will try to cite more references in it when I get time.
I have also edited Konni disambiguation page to list Konni (India).
Please advise what has to be done. I have started contributing to Wikipedia quite recently, and am not sure of how to deal with something like this.
Your help will be sincerely appreciated.
ChrysalSnowlax (talk) 09:57, 27 December 2008 (UTC)


Hi. How do I get on your list? I want to be included! サラは、私を、私の青覚えている。 Talk Contribs 13:33, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Can I maybe get an answer? サラは、私を、私の青覚えている。 Talk Contribs 20:45, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
WP:IND EDITS is a subset of WP:EDITS, made manually by me, just to identify highly active Indian editors, editors of Indian orgin or other non-indian editors who work on India related contents. If you feel that you fall into one of these, please feel free to add yourself at WP:IND EDITS. I may keep updating the list everytime WP:EDITS is updated . Thanks.. Sorry for the delayed reply. I was on a vacation -- Tinu Cherian - 05:54, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

That's okay. I'll add myself some time today. LOTRrules Talk Contribs 13:36, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Wish u a Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year!!! Have a BLAST!!! :-)

Ravi, ...Thanks a ton for the wishes. Wish you the same -- Tinu Cherian - 05:57, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Re:AWB error with the category creation plugin

I have fixed the AWB plugin issue with Category creator plugin. Please download the new version ( and let me know if you have any issues. Sorry for the delayed fix. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 20:46, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Ganesh, for looking into the issue and fixing it... Sorry for the late reply, I was on a vacation -- Tinu Cherian - 05:47, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


for the cleanup and Happy Holidays! StarM 23:58, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

You are welcome :) -- Tinu Cherian - 05:39, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Hohhoho! --KnowledgeHegemony talk 20:25, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Hope you have a great and merry Christmas and a wonderful New Year! --KnowledgeHegemony talk 20:25, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Wish you and your family a Merry Christmas from my side too. =Nichalp «Talk»= 20:28, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Merry Christmas Tinu. Have fun KensplanetTC 14:18, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Merry Christmas, Tinucherian !!! KensplanetTC 14:18, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas Tinu. --GPPande 17:33, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

KHP2, Nich, Kens, GPPande, Thanks a ton for the wishes. Wish you the same ( a bit belated :) ) -- Tinu Cherian - 05:41, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

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Hello Tinucherian! I just wanted to wish you and your family a merry Christmas! May this Christmas be full of great cheer and holiday spirit. Have a great day and a wonderful New Year, from The Bald One White cat 11:20, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas --Redtigerxyz Talk 15:49, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Blofeld,Redtigerxyz,...Thanks a ton for the wishes. Wish you the same ( a bit belated :) ) -- Tinu Cherian - 05:45, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


Merry Christmas and best wishes for the coming new year!Dineshkannambadi (talk) 19:36, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Dinesh,...Thanks a ton for the wishes. Wish you the same ( a bit belated :) ) -- Tinu Cherian - 05:45, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year 2009

Happy New Year Tinucherian/Archives/2008/December!!!! I wish for you and your family to have a wonderful 2009!!! Have fun partying and may you make many edits!!!

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-RavichandarMy coffee shop 11:48, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


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