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Subhas Chandra Bose

Sorry User:Tito Dutta you're right. My intention was to insert only the piece of The Tribune of India's article with the horrible way with which Emile received the shocking news of her husband's death. I accidentally added the entire piece. I have now made ​​the necessary adjustments. I apologize for the error. Thank you for your warning!--Cornelius383 (talk) 18:56, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Images troubles

Thanks User:Titodutta for your help. I wanted to add some pictures in the Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar's article. P.R. Sarkar had important contacts in his young life with Netaji and his brother Sarat Chandra Bose (they were his maternal uncles) togheter with Manabendra Nath Roy. Regarding the image files I did the followings: 1)I reduced the file of the image Mn roy2.jpg present in the Manabendra Nath Roy's article, I called it Mn roy 03.jpg and I uploaded it to Wikimedia Commons (I write "my hown works because I transformed the image.. maybe this was my error), and I inserted the image in the Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar's article. 2)The same I've done with Netaji's image Subhas Bose.jpg, on Subhas Chandra Bose's article. I downloaded it, I called it Subhas Chandra Bose 02.jpg, I reduced its size, I uploaded it to Wikimedia Commons, and I inserted it in the Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar's article. 3)Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar in 1939, (when he was student in Kolkata attending the Vidyasagar College at the local University) stayed at the house of his maternal uncle, Sarat Chandra Bose (aka Sarat Chandra "Basu") that was Subhas Chandra Bose's brother, so was interesting to had an image of him. I found an old image of Surat in, it was a very old one and I'm sure this work is in the public domain in India because its term of copyright has expired according to The Indian Copyright Act of 1957 [1]. So I downloaded the image sarat-chandra-bose_5285.jpg from, I changed the original black image's backround with a white one, I reduce the file size and again I added it to P. R. Sarkar's article and also in Sarat Chandra Bose's article. If you help me to mantain the images will be great..--Cornelius383 (talk) 00:54, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

In the Subhas Chandra Bose's article there are any photo of his wife Emilie or of his daughter Anita. I found an old and nice one (emilie_schenkl_anita_bose.jpg) in [2]. I think this image is in the public domain in India because its term of copyright has expired according to The Indian Copyright Act of 1957 [3]. Do you think that I can insert the image in Netaji's article? Thanks again--Cornelius383 (talk) 01:14, 15 May 2012 (UTC)


  • I am an admirer of Anandamurti! I have read few of his books too (like Bangla o Bangali etc). He was an incredibly talented person! It is unfortunate that we could not spread and cultivate his works as it should have been. Anadamurti was a world class linguist too. If you know Bengali, he coined many terms in Bengali like "ketan" for English word "brand" etc.
  • Yes, 1957 copyrights act document is applicable, but, you need to add – 1) When the image was taken 2) Who took the image (write "unknown" if you are not sure). 3) From where you got the image (website page URL or write scanned from photograph, f you scanned from any book, newspaper or magazine, mention it).
  • After adding recent images in Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar artcile, there is an image flooding problem! Image of Subhas Bose etc are not necessary. Also give citation in support of Bose was a relative of Sarkar.
  • There is not any article in Wikipedia in Prabhat Sangeet, it can be created
  • In bibliography section there are too many red links. Are you going to create articles on these?
About photo of Emilie and Anita, if it was taken ouside India, Indian copyright act is not applicable. In Sisir Bose's books, there are some good images of Emilie, Anita, Subhas Bose, , you can collect from there! If you want to talk on this, please create a new section in this talk page on Bose's images!--Tito Dutta 01:23, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
As Johan Galtung, Leonardo Boff, Sohail Inayatullah, Ravi Batra and many others I also consider Shrii Shrii Anandamurti one of the brightest personalities of modern India. I read many of His books and every time I read a new one I'm always very impressed by the strength and adequacy of his philosophy. All the red links in the Bibliography section of Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar's article are becouse it will be interesting to insert some of his books in Wp (but maybe they are too many and I will eliminate some of them). As you have seen the photo of Netaji's brother Sarat (that I inserted in Sarkar's article 'couse he was his mathernal uncle and hosted in his house Sarkar when he was a student in Kolkata) was removed from Wikimedia even though I changed the background and size.. (shame!). It's a good idea to create an article on Prabhat Sangeet! I should like to create one on Microvita theory, Biopsychology, Sarkar's Neohumanism and sistem of education when I will have some time. Anyway thank you for your support.--Cornelius383 (talk) 19:21, 16 May 2012 (UTC)


Hi Tito - what is the source of information about the ethnicity of the person whose photo you inserted in the article on Shuar people? Guamote is not within the Shuar area and the person's clothes looks more like what is usually used among the Andean groups - perhaps Kichwa/Quichua. The link to photopedia also doesn't seem to have any information about the ethnicity of the person portrayed. ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 02:06, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

I am not sure, see User_talk:SlimVirgin#Shuar.21. --Tito Dutta 02:09, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Please don't use that comment as your source, Tito. If you're not sure, and someone has raised a doubt, it's best to leave the image out. SlimVirgin (talk) 02:13, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Has been replaced in the article! No, I am not sure! --Tito Dutta 02:17, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Try to make a google image search for "Shuar" the people you will see look quite different from the woman in the photo. Then do a search for Guamote and see the likeness. The text at photopedia is lifted from wikipedia and simply describes the indigenous peoples of Ecuador it mentions both Quechua and Shuar and all the other indigenous groups and doesn't appoly specifically to the photo as far as I can discern.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 02:20, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
That's what I did, left a message in SV's talk page! IMO, the article's (i.e. Shuar people) lead section needs expansion. Let me know if you think I can help! --Tito Dutta 02:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
I think I may be able to. Thanks for working on the page btw.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 02:52, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

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Dutta (Surname) - Bihari people

Hello, sir

Please do include the Bihari people in the Dutta surname as we exist in a mass. I have'nt edited any other section of your page.

Thank you ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vishwajeet Dutta (talkcontribs) 04:44, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

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I have read these carefully! --Tito Dutta 20:11, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

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Kalipada Ghoshal

Need your help. This article was probably created by some fan User talk:Orientalarts. Or maybe they have the information in non-English or non-online sources. The user is new. After i cleaned it to remove all peacock terms and added citation needed tags the user seems to either have got frustrated or something. He simply blanked the whole page. He did same with few related images he had uploaded and also does that to his own talk page.
I tried to find some RS on the subject but didn't get anything than just passing mention. Hence maybe you could find something in Bengali sources and add it. The content doesn't seem completely fake and made-up to me. You could have a look at it and remove stuff that you feel are completely wrong. Enjoy! §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 06:08, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

And... the user doesn't talk. Simply blanks pages after some other users started interacting with them. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 06:10, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
They have done a tremendous research work! I have heard about Kalipada Ghoshal. The article is more a research work than an encyclopedia article.
I think I will be able to collect references only for– Shakuntala painting, Shiva drinking painting (they have not mentioned it in the article).
But, all the external links are useless, does not follow Wikipedia guidelines and there is almost nothing in those links! --Tito Dutta 07:12, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
No problem. Take your time. The references of offline print media which the user has added might be very well true. But they are all like 1980s. Plus the user doesn't do much talking. Anyways.... Thanks for the help. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 07:31, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Kaul Article in my Sandbox

Hi Tito, thanks for your suggestions and have updated the Kashmiri Pandit article using content from my Sandbox. Have now created a draft for improving the 'Kaul' article. Can you spend some time on it in my sandbox and let me know your feedback and comments. Good day. '- Ambar (talk) 09:04, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Dead or alive?!?

Dead or alive? site to check about....that's just @sick. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Radiohist (talkcontribs) 01:07, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Your inputs required (Kashmiri Pandit)

I had updated the Kashmiri Pandit article based on my Sandbox content. However, all the edits have been reverted by user Sitush. I have asked him to highlight and explain his concerns. Your inputs on the reverts would be appreciated. -Ambar (talk) 08:32, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

i posted in the talk page of the article, Sitush has replied, now your input is needed --Tito Dutta 15:33, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the posting. I have again explained the reasons for including the Pandit definition and other inclusions in the Kashmiri Pandit article. However, user Sitush continues to delete all the content that I add (over several articles) even though it is supported by credible sources and citations. Is this not vandalism of a kind? I surely feel so. Anyways, there is surely a gap here. Your neutral point of view would help. 'Ambar (talk) 09:41, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi Tito, have updated the etymology section on the Kashmiri Pandit article in my Sandbox based on yours & Sitush's inputs. I feel that the statement about Kashmir Saivism can remain as the link itself takes one to the wiki page which explains the statement. Am still not clear why the entire content was erased by user Sitush. I think this is strange but perhaps more dicussions will clarify this. -Ambar (talk) 07:32, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
About etymology: lots of peacock terms and unnecessary details.. keep those in one line (and in lede). --Tito Dutta 08:07, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Further edited my Sandbox, & hope its getting more acceptable with lesser puffery. Look forward to a quick agreement to initiate some improvements in the article on Kashmiri Pandits, which it desperately needs. -Ambar (talk) 09:23, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Tourism in West Bengal

Hi Tito! I recently crated the article, Tourism in West Bengal. But no one except me has still edited it or reviewed it and I want you to add the missing points. When replying please leave me a Tb template on my talk page. Thank you.--Jagadhatri(২০১২) 06:27, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

going to do now, see talk of that article! --Tito Dutta 15:29, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Seen, after my Wikibreak I may do it. Thanks. --Jagadhatri(২০১২) 12:01, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Indic scripts

The discussion at WT:INB happening at Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Native_language_RfC is quite slow. Anyways.... my recent post there questions editors of what should be done when sounds of few alphabets present in Indian languages can't be expressed with either IPA or IAST. I have give one example of Marathi alphabet ळ. Are there any such cases in Bengali, some alphabets whose pronunciation is not available in either of the two systems? If you have any such examples, please post there. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 13:48, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

I feel, words with consecutive letters with silent "अ" may be difficult to write in IPA. If कमल is written as "kml" that is correct, but the vowel bridge is missing. to explain कमल is क्+अ+म्+ल्, in IPA script कमल becomes kml– vowel bridge is missing, so though kml is correct, it can not be pronounced unless an "अ/ə" is added, so the IPA for becomes: kəməl, if I have to write कमल in IPA, I'll write kəməl.
Some more examples of words with consecutive letters with silent "अ", please write in IPA– बदन, चन्दन, सजल etc. --Tito Dutta 15:11, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Thats okay! If we can write it, how we write is a small problem. What i really wanted from you is to know if there are any alphabets in Bengali whose sound can not be represented through IPA or IAST. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 14:50, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
No there is not any! --Tito Dutta 15:03, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Okay! Lucky you! §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 15:11, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Is there anything IPA for Marathi as there is IPA for Bengali IPA for Hindi etc? --Tito Dutta 15:41, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
delete Indic scripts from lede and there is no reference for "Kashmiri" means "a man from Kashmir". I have removed category from the article, from now make sure to delete categories before adding them in sandbox! --Tito Dutta 15:21, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Had missed this comment & saw it just now. Will take care in the future. Thanks again. -Ambar (talk) 13:42, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit summary!

You're right Titodutta.. I always forget to write the edit summary. From the next time I'll try to do it! Best regards --Cornelius383 (talk) 15:33, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

in "preference" there is an option: "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary", enabling it might help! --Tito Dutta 15:43, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
OK.. Many thanks!!--Cornelius383 (talk) 15:52, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

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Subhas Chandra Bose

Titodutta I don't understand.. Qwyrxian ask to insert citations from the original book in a section without quotations!. Now I have personally consulted the original volume (no scribid) and I inserted it in the references (the original Sarkar's biography book Dharmavedananda, Ácárya (1999). Travel with the Mystic Master. Singapore: Ananda Marga Publications. ISBN 981-04-0864-1. ) and you deleted.. Now I deleted the note 24 (with the news of Subhas deat). The other notes are not mine! (I mean the "long notes" that you was speaking about..)--Cornelius383 (talk) 16:51, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

RS, RS.. in an Anandamarga's book they can claim anything.. collect an RS. And I don't see much importance of writing a paragraph on Anandamurti in Subhas Bose article! --Tito Dutta 17:14, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
Also create a section in Subhas Bose talk page for discussion.. the discussion id fragmented in many places! --Tito Dutta 17:18, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
Discussion continued in Subhas Chandra Bose talk page!--Cornelius383 (talk) 18:21, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Merger proposal

Please see Talk:Gauḍa region. Aditya Kabir has proposed merger of Gaur, West Bengal with Gauḍa region and I am opposing it. Cheers. - Chandan Guha (talk) 00:53, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

I do not have enough studies on the subject. I need to do some studies before commenting! --Tito Dutta 01:16, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Please, take a look. The discussion has degenerated much beyond the scope. BTW, much reference has been provided to make a conclusion. Aditya(talkcontribs) 05:55, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

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My mistake, I have added it now! :-) --Tito Dutta 10:00, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Acharya Shraddhananda Avadhuta

Hallo Tito Dutta.. Why did you delete the photo of Shraddhananda in Ananda Marga?? This photo was personally thaken from me in Europe on April 1993!! For the AMPS free books, if you live in Kolkata I suppose you can directely apply a request directly to the AMPS office.. But I'm not sure. Maybe you can try to contact AMPS publishing house online.--Cornelius383 (talk) 13:11, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

I can not understand the second part, I have not deleted AMPS image. But, for the first part, I have replied in my Commons talk page (or see file talk page in commons)! --Tito Dutta 13:35, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
If you delete from commons you automatically have deleted from Ananda Marga also.. The second part it's related with your question on Sarkar's free digital books..--Cornelius383 (talk) 13:48, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
The image is not deleted. --Tito Dutta 13:54, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
OK now I've uploaded a new one.. I've also other photos of him if you don't like this one.--Cornelius383 (talk) 14:15, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Still an oval shape image, can you upload a rectangular image? --Tito Dutta 14:34, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
The image Acarya Shraddhananda Avadhuta 01b.jpg is not oval but rectangular!--Cornelius383 (talk) 14:42, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Do you mean this image File:Acarya_Shraddhananda_Avadhuta_01.jpg. I can not see any new version of this image– have you uploaded? The only image I can see is oval! I can help to make it rectangular if you 1) own copyright of this image or the image is under cc 3.0 license (free to modify), 2) if you send me the original image over email! --Tito Dutta 14:51, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
No Tito, this is the old one.. I mean the new file: File:Acarya Shraddhananda Avadhuta 01b.jpg--Cornelius383 (talk) 14:57, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
I've also done a draw with Gimp from a picture of Acarya Samanvayananda Avt and I've reinserted it on commons 'couse was also deleted!--Cornelius383 (talk) 15:00, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
You could upload the new version in the same image, anyway the new image is much better one! BTW, are you going to start article on Prabhat Sangeet? --Tito Dutta 15:08, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

I should like.. but on next weeks I will be very busy with my work. Can I ask you some other things or you are busy now?--Cornelius383 (talk) 15:13, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes please! --Tito Dutta 15:19, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Another question is why do you delete the link from Bose's article with the article of his brother Sarat Chandra Bose? Do you think that this information is not thrue?--Cornelius383 (talk) 15:41, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Can not understand which link your are talking about, search in and/or search in Google and add inurl:gov in your search query for good RS. I can try to find RS too, if you want. creating a new section below for your question on Sarkar! --Tito Dutta 15:46, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

The link was on my previous edit of Bose's article. I inserted a WP-link (from the Bose's early life section) with the brother of Subhas (the link was with the Sarat Chandra Bose's article in the en-WP).. But you deleted it when you deleted my edits on it--Cornelius383 (talk) 16:15, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

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