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For rescuing Keshav Dev Temple. I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 06:09, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
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July 2012

Your recent editing history at Upendra shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Drmies (talk) 04:23, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

This is absolutely ridiculous! Most unimaginable! You are warning me? On What ground? --Tito Dutta 04:27, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Eh, on this ground. Even a blind man can see you're edit-warring. I could have blocked you on the spot. The longer answer is at ANI. Drmies (talk) 04:33, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Tito, I watch WP:ANI and User talk:Drmies, and so have seen this thing. Your edit summary here says that the issue(s) have been "discussed many times" but in fact the only "discussion" in is edit summaries & indeed you refer to them. Edit summaries are not in fact discussion. If you want to avoid accusations of edit warring then you really need to raise the problems on the article talk page quite early in the dispute otherwise you're as liable to be blocked as anyone else. - Sitush (talk) 04:40, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
I tried to talk to this editor multiple times, see User_talk:Abhijit_puranik#July_2012, also see here User_talk:Subhash_Chandra_Gandhi#WP:RS, here User_talk:Subhash_Chandra_Gandhi#July_2012 also see my frustration here: User_talk:Callanecc#Three_revert_rule.21 etc--Tito Dutta 04:44, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Titodutta, you know I respect you and have nothing but high praise for you and our relationship. So, when I say you have erred, please don't take it the wrong way. You are in an edit war. It doesn't matter who started it or who is right. After you have done the 2nd revert, you shouldn't revert again. I've found it doesn't matter how well you explain things or how many times you revert, some people will not get it or listen to reason. Boy, it is tempting to keep reverting, but it won't do any good. Instead, if they still revert, it's time to call for help. I've asked Drmies before for advise. He has told me I've been wrong. But, when he thinks there is a case, he will either step in or give some advise. The majority of the time, the person will stop reverting after another person gets involved. Unfortunately, I've been involved where people end up getting blocks. So, the next time ask for help instead of doing the 3rd revert. Bgwhite (talk) 04:54, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

But, this is absolutely frustrating for me. For the first time I have been feeling I have wasted two years here. That editor has at least 5 WP:SOCK accounts, has uploaded same copyrighted image at least 10 times (every time deleted), every time you say something, he just creates a new account, and you are warning me? --Tito Dutta 04:59, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Oh boy is it frustrating. There are sockpuppets involved. The other editor is wrong for adding the copyrighted material. You got slapped with a threatening message. There is no denying what you were trying to do was the right thing. However, you were going about it the wrong way. Drmies message about the block is the standard cookie-cutter message that Twinkle produces. Don't look at it as he was threatening you with a block. It was just the standard message. He was saying to stop edit warring. It wouldn't have mattered how many times you reverted. There is no way of getting this settled on your own because the other person was irrational. Now that some admins are involved this will get settled. Next time this happens, and there will be a next time, just ask for help after the 2nd revert. Bgwhite (talk) 05:14, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I did warn you, for a very good reason: because I don't want to block you! Those other accounts could have been blocked already if you had started an SPI or used other venues, and then none of this would have happened. You asked for advice from Callanecc, but they have 6000 edits and aren't an admin--besides filing an SPI you could have posted a message at the 3RR noticeboard, at AIV, or if you thought this was a BLP issue (and I think you did) you could have tried WP:BLPN. That's at least four options, each of which would have gotten an admin involved much earlier in the process. Yes, Bg, if I or any other admin had known about this earlier we would have stepped in to stop the disruption and to protect Titodutta, whom I know as an editor of good faith, from getting entangled in this edit war. Drmies (talk) 05:18, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
And again, after Bg's message: yes, that is exactly why I gave you a warning and responded to you as quickly as I could at ANI. Now, go file that SPI, the sooner the better! Drmies (talk) 05:18, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Yes, file a WP:SPI. If you haven't done one before, this will give you training. Post here that you completed it then we can add our comments to the SPI. Oh joy, this is the side of Wikipedia I hate. Bgwhite (talk) 05:31, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Me, too. I've always thought Tito to be a good faith contributor. FWIW, Tito, I've been nudged by admins before now: they have a role and cannot be seen to take sides if they want to use their mop. - Sitush (talk) 06:03, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Sitush, I was going to leave a message at your talk page! Your suggestion is really good. --Tito Dutta 06:18, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Misuse of rollback

I've removed the rollback flag from your account because you have used it in an edit war on Upendra. There's more commentary at ANI. Keilana|Parlez ici 04:35, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

  • Thank you Keilana. Drmies (talk) 04:46, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Restoring rollback I am restoring rollback because I think this is a grey area where a reasonable person would've made the same decisions you made. There are several issues to consider when judging if this was edit warring including whether socking of a banned user or copyright infringement is involved. Both issues have come up. I think you were indeed wrong to use the rollback tool here, Keilana and Drmies are right about that. However, I think removing the tool is too harsh for the situation at hand. I want you to know that this is a grey area and you should be careful not to strafe into this again. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.--v/r - TP 19:05, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
  • I do admit the mistake of using rollback option there. After yesterday's reminder my immediate reaction was– "oops, I read it in guidelines, but, I forgot". If this was an edit-warring then my use of rollback was an abuse (can you say "mistake" please?). But, I feel these were vandalism. There are more issues which have not been discussed, he has uploaded same copyrighted image 7-8 times using a new file name each time, more sock accounts (I doubt), details in ANI page. I was looking for a very quick way to revert edits. Twinkle's "restore this version" does not work for my account/computer (really, Twinkle's "restore this version" and Cite web reference's "Show more fields" these options don't work for me.) I request to fully unprotect the page and wait for few days and then decide yourself– was it a vandalism or simple edit warring with so many issues involved: 1) Copyvio 2) Sockpuppetry 3) Copyright violated image uploading multiple times 4) Continuous use of WP:MIRROR etc! --Tito Dutta 01:05, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
  • I have no problem with it being restored, Titodutta, and I'll gladly concede that it was a grey area. As you may have seen by now a couple of your opponents are gone for good and now that there's an SPI with some established CU evidence it will be much easier to keep things in check. Carry on, Drmies (talk) 01:57, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

The Heart that you carry

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Your many timely and kind interventions have been duly noticed, and gratitude is in order! :) Ekabhishektalk 04:37, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! Face-smile.svg --Tito Dutta 02:02, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Need more research in the history of sari

Dear User/Contributor,

I found your article very useful and i appreciate your effort in uploading and updating the article on sari. I found some infos omitted and i think you need more indepth research on the evolution of sarees in INDIA.

I found a book on the sari written by VIJAY SINGH KATIYAR. the book is "INDIAN SARI - Traditions - Perspectives - Designs" Go through this book and include the facts. Your article seems to be driven by personal perspective. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avisbliss (talkcontribs) 05:19, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

I have not read the book. I'll try to search in Google later--Tito Dutta 05:26, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Need more research in the history of sari

Thank You...

I read this book in Losangeles Library. Hope so this book is available on line too.

Further details of the book Author: Vijay Singh Katiyar Publication: Wisdom Tree in association with NID (National institute of Design, Ahmadabad) ISBN: 978-81-8328-122-5 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avisbliss (talkcontribs) 05:56, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

I am not a primary contributor of the article, you can contact other editors. You can discuss in article's talk page too! Let me know if you have any questions! --Tito Dutta 05:59, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


Answer of editing Amartya Sen as a Bangladeshi.

The Bangladesh Government given honorary citizenship to Amartya sen, Kazi Nazrul Islam and Mohammad Ali. So,Amartya Sen is a Bangladeshi as well as Indian. So, Please stick to wikipedia norms rather than indulging in patriotic/heroic efforts. (Mohd. Toukir Hamid (talk) 17:11, 10 July 2012 (UTC))

A barnstar for you!

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Thank you for c/e Amor Prohibido. I really appreciated your hard work, and your continuous improvements on other articles here on Wikipedia. Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 21:25, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
I have not made any edit in that article. Have you posted in a wrong page? BTW, AFAIK, article content should not be collapsed according to Manual of style. You can check once. I have found some minor issues in that article which I can try to solve if you want. --Tito Dutta 02:02, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
Oops I'm terribly sorry about that. Yes you can fix any issues the article has, it would be very appreciated! Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 15:50, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
I have started with checking common issues
  • dmy-mdy mix up: no major problem
  • British, Amrican English: no problem
  • dablink: 1 dablink found, I could not understand which will be applicable video or music, so I have tagged
  • dead links: no problem!
Somewhere in MOS I read, collapsed content should not be used in the article body. I have not done anything with that collapsed box. You, primary contributors can decide!
I'll see what I can do else. If you want we can take this talk to your talk page, so that you can reply easily. --Tito Dutta 16:06, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
That's a great idea. Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 17:37, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

If you have some interest...

I see you are involved in different kinds of wiki-activities now :p If you have some interest, have a look at the article Tripura. If you find enough interest, please participate in copyediting the article. It is currently in peer review, and I am hoping some non-Indian editor to do some peer review. The "culture" section is not well developed, and am developing Culture of Tripura first before making significant changes to the main article. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 01:29, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

What is the meaning of :p smiley? Culture section needs some more references, I think, some can be found here Culture of Tripura, and main article has been linked in Tripura, that is fine. I'll try to see it again soon--Tito Dutta 02:02, 11 July 2012 (UTC)




Please do not add space at the beginning of sentence. I'll see what I can do for Pracheta Gupta article. I'll inform you in your talk page! --Tito Dutta 10:22, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

How can I provide citations?10:37, 11 July 2012 (UTC)Debi gupta (talk)
No space (indent) at the beginning of a sentence please! Well, there is a long article on it, if you want to read, see WP:CITE, else, we can discuss briefly here! --Tito Dutta 10:40, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

THANK YOU SO MUCH!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Debi gupta (talkcontribs) 10:41, 11 July 2012 (UTC) 

Invitation to WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force

Hello Titodutta/Archive 16!, we are looking for editors to join WikiProject Indian cinema task force, a joint task force run between WikiProject Films and WikiProject India to ensure that Indian cinema-related articles on Wikipedia are written in an encyclopedic style, in a neutral manner using verifiable and reliable sources. We thought you might be interested, hoping that you will join us. Thanks!! Face-smile.svg
Click here to add your name.

. Vensatry (Ping me) 11:03, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I have added my name, though I am mainly working in Bengali and Hindi films. There is some formatting errors, I think in entry number 106 in Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Indian_cinema_task_force/Participants, since it was another editor's edit, I have not corrected it. Let me know if you think I can contribute anywhere else! --Tito Dutta 11:08, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

MirrorLink - Article for Creation

I have created another AfC MirrorLink. Kindly take some time to review and leave your comments. I am a little surprised that such a widely spoken about technology with numerous google search results is still not up at Wiki. Policies shouldn't become so intricate that they make the system slow & inefficient. Wonder which WP policy did I overlook this time. -Ambar wiki (talk) 14:22, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I do not know very much about this topic. I do not have a smart phone. But I am confused does it spell MirrorLink or Mirror Link? You have used both in the article. I can see, your afc request (this time) is awaiting review. Try to add more content and reliable sources. Have you browsed --Tito Dutta 15:32, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
Good point raised about the MirrorLink & Mirror Link words, & the correct form is MirrorLink (as represented in the logo), as Mirror Link could also in general apply to normal mirroring in case of PCs etc. Haven't browsed & will try that now and see what comes up. Will also correct Mirror Link ==> MirrorLink in the article. -Ambar wiki (talk) 11:54, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Pracheta Gupta

Pracheta Gupta's Date of birth is actually 14.10.1962. I found it in the back cover of his books.Debi gupta (talk) 06:42, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Battle for Delhi

Please advise how to go for it. I can put the information. Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 07:35, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

The lead section is not adequately summarized. Make a summary of the article in the lead. See WP:LEAD, if you have any question about that article or any other article, you can ask me here in my talk page! --Tito Dutta 07:36, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
I'll do that. I have two questions on this page, 1) Name of page 'Battle for Delhi' is not sounding appropriate as there are two other pages on 'Battle of Delhi'. If an other name comes to mind cosidering its importance, will we be able to change it at a later time. 2) I want to put a link to Google Maps of the area, out side Tughlakabad in Delhi, where the battle took place. How would that be possible.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 08:32, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Have you seen this article: Battle of Delhi? Please mention in which years two battles were fought? Is there any relation between Battle of Delhi 1556 and Battle of Panipat, 1556?--Tito Dutta 08:36, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
In fact there are 4 'Battle of Delhi' pages/references, one in 1399 when Taimur attacked Delhi, 1803 Anglo-Marahta war, 1737 Marahta-Mughal war, and 1857 Indian rebellion v/s British, battle. I named this page as 'Battle for Delhi' considering that it could look different and not becomes confusing with other wars. But it did not happen. I find need for a distinct name if possible.

Battle for Delhi in 1556, and 2nd Battle of Panipat(1556) are two entirely different battles. After Delhi battle 1556, which was Hemu's 22nd continuous victory, the Hindu king Hemu defeated the Mughals and had his 'coronation' in Purana Quila, Delhi. But in Battle of Panipat 1556, he lost the battle and was killed giving a decisive victory to Mughals. Only relation was that Hemu was common in both, their armies changed. In Panipat battle Akbar and Bairam Khan were also there.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 09:58, 12 July 2012 (UTC) I prepared WP:LEAD, please see if it is OK or need some change.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 11:33, 12 July 2012 (UTC) Page on 'Battle for Delhi' is now almost complete. Please see if tag on references, citations at the top could be removed now. Also, regarding changing the heading of the page, I am not aware of the rules at Wikipedia, but if I could propose the name as 'Hemu's Battle for Delhi' or 'Medieval Battle for Delhi' to differentiate it from other Battles of Delhi, mentioned above.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 06:55, 19 July 2012 (UTC) I have already written WP:LEAD, please see. If you want some major change in that, please advise. Also, please advise on changing the heading of the page.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 07:43, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Regarding Pracheta Gupta

Well actually there are quite a few book which state the author's DoB. 'AMAAR JA ACHHE', 'JHEELDANGAR KANYA', 'PANCHASHTI GALPO' to nam a few. The publishers are [1] Ananda Publishers and Dey's Publishing. About the ISBN number I'm not too sure. I'll let you know if possible. ThanksDebi gupta (talk) 09:24, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

--Debi gupta (talk) 09:29, 12 July 2012 (UTC)Yeah sure! I will make some edits as well as mention about Chander BariDebi gupta (talk) 09:29, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Regarding Pracheta Gupta

I have added a few more books by the author and also included his spouse and son's name.Debi gupta (talk) 10:24, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Tito Dutta

Ok! I'll try to find out his school name. Debi gupta (talk) 10:28, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Reassessing GA status of Barack Obama on Twitter?

I have requested a reassessment on this article after AFD resulted as "no consensus". There is no "keep", unfortunately. However, I haven't added {{subst:GAR}} yet. --George Ho (talk) 18:42, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Request for comment

This is just a "Request for comment" in that discussion. User:Titodutta is not accused here.

Feel free to commment at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Disruptive_edits_of_User:Luciferwildcat.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:00, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I'll see, They need to fully rewrite the sandbox article. Currently the article is not on "Communications of Barack Obama". I have added a hatnote here to avoid confusions. Please ignore the hatnote! --Tito Dutta 22:07, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
I better change the header, I saw some worried face few days ago when I got a warning, I don't want to make them anxious again by a header like "ANI Notice". I am changing header to ANI notice → Request for comment! --Tito Dutta 22:12, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

School name

I found out his school name from one of his friends.Debi gupta (talk) 06:12, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, in Wikipedia we don't add first hand information! See if you can collect some sources --Tito Dutta 06:14, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

If I talk to him in person will that be okay?06:19, 13 July 2012 (UTC)Debi gupta (talk)

On Mridul Dasgupta

If you include Bengali poet Mridul Dasgupta I can provide information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:26, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Okay I got that. Thanks!Debi gupta (talk) 06:29, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

What information do want regarding Mridul Dasgupta? I can help you out. But about citations and references I'm not too sure. Same applies to the film Chander Bari. Regarding Pracheta Gupta's image I don't have any at the moment. I'll try and find out some if possible. I means ones without copyright.Debi gupta (talk) 06:46, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Okay. I'll try to find out someDebi gupta (talk) 06:54, 13 July 2012 (UTC)


Okay. If I manage to get any free image of Pracheta Gupta. I mean the ones without copyright how do I post it. I'm not too net savvy. Debi gupta (talk) 07:59, 13 July 2012 (UTC)


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Could you take a look

Came across Kathiramangalam Vana Durga while doing New Page Patrol. Could you take a look. It needs work and refs. I'm not sure it is even notable. Bgwhite (talk) 06:28, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes! Done! --Tito Dutta 07:21, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Kathiramangalam Vana Durga

Hi sir! I got many edit conflicts with you there. Great work so far! I also saw you requesting move. Well, in such minor cases, one should just boldly do the move. So, I have done it like other temple articles have. Hope that you won't mind it. Cheers! — TheSpecialUser (TSU) 07:21, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Abhay Sopori - new article

Hi Tito, could you take a look at the new Abhay Sopori page that I created recently. Your feedback and inputs would be much appreciated. -Ambar wiki (talk) 19:38, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Looks good, needs some biographical data (DoB etc)! --Tito Dutta 02:33, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Sure, will try and search if I can come up with the biographical details. Just wanted to ensure that since its a BLP, maybe its better to avoid an exact date. Anyways, will update as soon as I have a credible source. How can I search wikipedia for an image of Sopori that may already be uploaded on commons. -Ambar wiki (talk) 07:24, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
In my Commons userpage I have started gathering some links, you can see there Commons:User:Titodutta --Tito Dutta 07:26, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
I had a look, but am still not clear how to search for an image on wikipedia that I'd want to search and upload into an article. For example, If I'd want to upload a picture of Braj Kumar Nehru on the article page that I just edited & improved greatly, how can I do that search & know for sure that no picture of him exists before I begin to upload another one of my own. -Ambar wiki (talk) 16:46, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
I can see there are already photos added there! --Tito Dutta 03:41, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

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Empty watchlist! Any suggestion?

I have almost 3000 pages on my watchlist now. Everytime I sign in I find my watchlist flooded. I am planning to remove all pages from watchlist (including my subpages too). Has anyone tried it? Any suggestion? --Tito Dutta 18:15, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you have got one already and whether you had asked for the following or not. Just click any of the following to edit watchlist.
Sorry if this was not what you intended for. Hope you have a great day! I think your talkpage has got some incidents to be placed at WP:HIGH. :) Vanischenu mTalk 21:32, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! Actually I was trying to find if anyone has ever emptied the whole watchlist! --Tito Dutta 08:43, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
And I can not understand WP:HIGH --Tito Dutta 08:44, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Sorry. I speculated that you would have known it, but that didn't prevent me from answering. As a test I removed an entry from mine :).
And about WP:HIGH - (1) The copyeditor barnstar. Your reply was very innocent and it made me laugh a lot.(2)
No space (indent) at the beginning of a sentence please!
(and (3) this same section). They made me laugh, especially as a relief after feeling the harshness of the 3R. VanischenumTalk 20:27, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
After writing this I put a whole WikiProject articles into my watchlist. Unfortunately there weren't much edits in the project which gave unnoticeable changes in my watchlist. So, I created an outdoor recentchanges based watchlist in my user subpage per Help:Watching articles. Then replaced my old watchlist content back in (I had a backup). A few edits later, I came here and saved the page in your style Alt Shifts. :) That editing of raw watchlist worked pretty good to me.VanischenumTalk 10:09, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
What is outdoor recent changes? How did you create it? --Tito Dutta 10:28, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Please comment

Hi Tito, there's a discussion going on the nominations page of WP:INCOTM regarding independence related articles. Please comment! :) BPositive (talk) 17:27, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I have posted a comment! --Tito Dutta 23:56, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Gurusaday Dutt I.C.S

Hi Tito, You had wanted to know about my grandfather's photograph. This was uploaded by me, and was taken before he started the Bratachari Movement. Yes I am still an active contributor to Wikipedia Devsaday Dutt (talk) 03:30, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Replied in your talk page! --Tito Dutta 03:41, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for offering help with uploading. I am not sure if I am related to Brajendranath Dutt. But Brajendra Nath De ICS (8th Indian ICS)was my great grandfather. We are from Sylhet Devsaday Dutt (talk) 04:11, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello Tito Dutta

Still trying to find an image of Pracheta Gupta. No luck till now. Need some more time. Want to include an image of Debsankar Halder. I have an image which appeared in the invitation card of a theatre festival. Will that do?

I can provide the names of books written by Mridul Dasgupta along with the publishers name. Most books are of the 70's and early 80's and do not have ISBN number. Will that do? Debi gupta (talk) 09:42, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 16 July 2012

Face-smile.svg Thank you --Tito Dutta 13:04, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Bhagavad Gita

There is a discussion taking place at Talk:Bhagavad_Gita#Dating_Bhagavad_Gita. If you are not busy, would you care to comment there. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 05:06, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I have seen the discussion! Note last time there was not any consensus or discussion, they mentioned– some scholars, but who they did not mention! Also some of my questions were ignored! Also, I have a suggestion for you, see WP:3RR. Don't get trapped there and carry on! --Tito Dutta 05:16, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
you can also request User:Redtigerxyz, User:Sitush to comment. They have studies on this subject and experiences too! --Tito Dutta 05:19, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
I have stopped editing the article till consensus is reached on this. I had to add a bit on Moksha, but if you've seen the edit history, you know I was involved in an edit war regarding format of the article as well. Better keep my hands off the article for now. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll request them for comments as well. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 05:22, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Also note, there was not any consensus– with no clear conclusion, reluctant to do further studies, lack of information in statements– 2 person supporting, 1 person opposing (me)– is that a consensus? --Tito Dutta 05:28, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
I was actually surprised that a consensus had been reached, given that the original reference seems vague, unreliable and offers no rationale for the dates. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 05:34, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
I don't know about any consensus! --Tito Dutta 05:35, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Will keep that in mind when arguments about a previous consensus are raised. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 05:38, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
You have at least one new message in Talk:Bhagavad Gita. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 05:55, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
You have two more messages at the same page. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 07:48, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for adding the tool. I've added all the sources I could. If you're done too, we can start examining and sifting through the various sources. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 09:33, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Wait for 1–2 days so that others can join too (if anyone joins at all)! --Tito Dutta 10:24, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
I have added my comments on the reliability of various publishing houses. Others can join in when they please. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 10:33, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
When you find time, please comment on whether New Age Books and Lexington Books are reliable sources for dating Bhagavad Gita or not. I'll summarize the dates of composition given in various sources after that. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 09:02, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
I have summarized the dates mentioned in the various references. Please comment on how the paragraph is to be worded. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 14:56, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
I have replied at my talk page. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 13:38, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
I have replied to "700 slokas! But, in our calculation it is not!". CorrectKnowledge (talk) 18:37, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
With the kind of work all of us have done on the BG page, I hope it achieves GA status one day. Have a great weekend. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 19:34, 20 July 2012 (UTC)


Hello there, a Peer Review is going on for the article Uttarakhand.Your valuable inputs can help a lot in improving the article further as they did in the article Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi.Thank You Ayanosh (talk) 09:27, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I'll check shortly! --Tito Dutta 10:24, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback 3

I replied at Wikipedia:Help desk#File:Jukti Takko Aar Gappo scene.ogv. Feel free to remove this message. Best. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlkctb) 21:39, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello, I have replied there! --Tito Dutta 03:42, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

SPI closed

I see that - rightly - the SPI has been closed for lack of evidence/ambiguity. It was a rather silly accusation from someone who, frankly, seems incapable of grasping how we work here. Put it behind you, and have a good weekend (I am away for a couple of days). - Sitush (talk) 17:01, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Actually I did not see it. Thanks for informing! And I better link the page here to quickly access it!--Tito Dutta 17:43, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh! How did i miss this? I have had regular trips to Sitush's talkpage and SPI recently. This must have been fun! :) §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 07:00, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

reply to your post

Yes, I saw that news. Inded was re-reading Dwitiyo Manab last night.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:18, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Changing the header from death news → Reply to your post! A header like "Death news" or "ANI report" may be confusing for other who are watching this talk page! Will reply to this post shortly in your talk --Tito Dutta 17:22, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
LoL! Liked the change of heading. Anyway, the Gita dating discussion seems to have a lot of participants. I will wait for the result. The last proposed version looks ok.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:48, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Apologies for reversion

Hi there, sorry I had to revert your helpful changes to the kundalini article due to some previous extensive changes by another editor. Would you mind re applying your changes using reflist? Freelion (talk) 00:21, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

No, it is okay, it was just formatting of references. We can do it anytime again! --Tito Dutta 02:21, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Gandhi in Gita

The Bhagavad Gita article refers to Gandhi as Mahatma Gandhi, Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi and just Gandhi. Do we need to choose only one name for the sake of consistency. If yes, then do we call him Mahatma/Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi in the first instance and call him Gandhi throughout the rest of the article? The case with Aurobindo is similar. He is called Sri Aurobindo and Aurobindo interchangeably. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 06:04, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

I have replied to your newly created "Barnstar!" section on the Gita talk page. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 12:36, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
New message at the same place. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 12:52, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
I have replied in the barnstar section. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 15:31, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
I have made a few changes to the barnstar. Have a look at it. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 17:26, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
I have cropped the image to exaggerate the face and the flute. Should I just upload the new image it to commons? Are there any copyvios I should be careful about? CorrectKnowledge (talk) 18:19, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
I have added the image File:Sri Mariamman Temple Singapore 2 amk cropped.jpg to the barnstar. I have uploaded it to Commons as my own work. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 18:30, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
I have made the corrections. Working on the collapsable box now. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 18:41, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Replied at my talk page. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 18:45, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
There are updates at both the article talk page and my talk page. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 19:09, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
You've one new message at my talk page. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 19:31, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Untitled section

Hi Titodutta!

Please do not edit my usertalk page without my express written permission.

If you don't want me to edit your usertalk page by removing all your useless drivel here, then don't touch my page. Simple.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Teelosdomain (talkcontribs) 2012-07-22T11:17:43

A brownie for you!

Brownie transparent.png Thanks for helping with the vandalism on my talk page, much appreciated :). Callanecc (talkcontribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 11:32, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

I am back

Hi may be remembering "Jagadhatri"! Yes, I am back after 2 months with a brand new name Tamravidhir...just informing!! Face-wink.svg --Tamravidhir(২০১২) 10:49, 23 July 2012 (UTC)


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Hey Tito!

How are you doing? Guitarist<<Talk>> 11:02, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

The tale of two lost....

Books will not last forever but they do keep us happy for the short time they stay with us.. is not just a piece of a past written on papers..but it is a thing which is to inspire the next generations for years to is a thing to feel...thing to love and admire at. Literary history, political history, economical and social history, architectural history, archaeological history and please do your bit to promote the ambitions related to it are going low....

Let the glory of the Taj never fade! not just a piece of masonry...but our culture, mannerisms, ideologies, food habits, religion and please do your bit to conserve it....

Just an initiative led by me - a history buff and heritage lover - to promote the diverse culture of India, which is diminishing its glory amidst foreign cultures....

Go, spread this message to others...but the "ultimate choice" lies upon you

Yours faithfully --Tamravidhir(২০১২) 11:50, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

What is this? --Tito Dutta 12:07, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


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I can not understand which message you are asking me to see! --Tito Dutta 12:20, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
WTF! Sorry man! I actually planned to give talkback in Tamravidhir's talk! hehe..thanks for the notice and inform Face-grin.svg Face-grin.svg TheStrikeΣagle 12:29, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

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Talkback (barnstar)

You have one new message at my talk page. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 13:46, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Independence Day GA review

Yep! First set of concerns addressed. Let's do type B review (don't mind listing of concerns as well). Hope this will be fast. Bye,--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:06, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, and go ahead with changes that you feel necessary. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:58, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Ok, wording changes done in lead and first paragraph of History section. I borrowed freely from India. The wordings there were painstakingly chiseled out through long debates and in-depth work led by Fowler & Fowler. The article had gone through a DETAILED FA review. So, these wordings are pretty much standard, and accepted by the community.
Of course, there is the revolutionary movements, but their contribution to the final independence is minimal compared to INC and other mainstream players, according to globally accepted secondary and tertiary sources. So, in this small lead and one paragraph of history, it may be difficult to nicely accommodate them. I will still try to somehow find some wording to use in the "History" section; but they are not notable enough for the lead.
On Suman's song, that is actually one of my favourite. I very often play that one while driving alone to or from work!--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:52, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Another KP marked by me

Hi Tito, have done some stuff at P.N. Haksar, & would look forward to your comments on how its coming about. Its still WIP, so atleast another 2-3 days before the final version is ready. But any inputs at this time would go a long way to help me improve it better. My list of pending articles that I am looking to improve / create is still too long, & was wondering if there is anyplace on wiki where such ideas could be delegated / shared. I have also listed down several articles that I have improved (some have really been taken from virtually nothing to quite something, or so I would like to think). A quick visit perhaps when you are less busy with BG. Thanks. -Ambar (talk) 17:14, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


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Uttar Pradesh

Hi Tito,i've listed this article for peer review.Please have your say.It would be more helpful if you give your important suggestions.Thank You -25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 07:18, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


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I've respond to queries.Please see.Thank You. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 09:18, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


Dear Tito Dutta, I find that you visited this page recently. It has many discrepencies on 'Caste System'. I did not find any caste system in Manusmriti. It is only a division of community in 4 classes on the basis of their work. Also, the lowest class had the right to qualify to become Brahmin, by fulfilling three conditions. A Brahmin could lose status if not educated etc. etc. I want to put these facts on the page giving references of shaloks in Manusmriti. I also find that references 15,16,17,18 on that page are absolutely wrong. Could be delebrately cooked up. Please advise.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 09:45, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Ya, go ahead with WP:RS. --Tito Dutta 10:40, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


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Hi Tito.Please visit here.Thank You. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 13:06, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Bhagavad Gita (Again)

Last time I suggested that the Bhagavad Gita article could be pushed for GA class, you said, you would speedy fail it for too short a lead, maintenance templates and format errors. Please have a look at the article again and tell me whether you think it can be renominated for GA now. If not, could you also specify what the article is still lacking. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 14:16, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

No, no, not GA ready! Lots of works need to be done! --Tito Dutta 14:21, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
If you are not busy could you specify in some detail, what work still needs to be done. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 14:26, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
I have replied at my talk page. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 14:38, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
I have replied! --Tito Dutta 14:45, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
My reply is at the same place. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 14:54, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Have a look at your sandbox. I have made the changes there. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 15:01, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Modifications in your sandbox, reply on my page. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 15:17, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
I have added the barnstar to Wikipedia:Personal_user_awards#Topic-related_awards. You should also move the code related to the barnstar, to a separate subpage. I will add a wikilink to the subpage in the PUA. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 16:51, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Try {{subst:The Karma Yogi Barnstar}} anywhere on wikipedia. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 17:15, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Its complete now. You can try {{subst:The Karma Yogi Barnstar|1=Put your message here. ~~~~}} CorrectKnowledge (talk) 17:27, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
I have simplified the code, removed redundancy. {{subst:Panipuri|~~~|Your message.}} should do the trick. If you like the previous REVISIONUSER thing better revert my last edit to template and the documentation. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 18:23, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
I can see you are having a lot of fun with templates. :) Can we please get back to the BG page? It is really sad to see that it is still not good enough for GAR. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 18:29, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
You have one new message at my talk page. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 18:31, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
One more message. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 18:34, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
I have replied. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 18:40, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
I have created a separate documentation and linked it to the template. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 18:49, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Looks good: Crystal Clear action apply.png Hello, I want to inform you, I have read your last post! CorrectKnowledge (talk) 18:57, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Crystal Clear action apply.png Hello, I want to inform you, I have read your last post! CorrectKnowledge (talk) 19:18, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
What kind of descriptor does Fowler need? CorrectKnowledge (talk) 21:26, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Just replied it in your talk! --Tito Dutta 21:29, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
I have removed a couple of unreliable external links that were used as references and shortened the modern commentaries section as per our discussion earlier. I think we can retain the links because the website is maintained by Bhagavad-Gita Trust 1998 - 2009 U.S.A, which seems as reliable a primary source as Gita press. It is referred to in this paper by the U.S. National Institute of Health. Please have a look at the article and if possible, list the major problems that still exist in the article talk page. Thanks. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 15:06, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Approach for help

Hello there, I was going though some articles which I can edit when I found out that Sikkim Manipal Institute of Technology and Sikkim Manipal University have been lying Stub for several months. Nobody took care about it. I'd be more than happy to take on these two articles but due to the lack of content I cannot proceed. I'd be glad if you kindly help me either with some resources or fellow Wikipedians, who can help me in editing and making these a fine Wikipedia articles. Regards - Argha.hazra (talk) 16:00, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

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