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Hey Tito Dutta

Hi I would like to inform that Sanjeev Nanda hit and run case wiki article is under Disparage title so Please help us to make the title of this article as "Sanjeev Nanda" and "Sanjeev Nanda Entrepreneur". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khalidgaur (talkcontribs) 07:15, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

  • Please help us— who are you (plural) here? That was decided after an RM (see article talk page). See the discussion at the talk page first. --TitoDutta 09:27, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Whoa! I was taken aback by this wonderful user talk page design of yours. You have such a high level of curiosity which takes your Wiki-experience to new unachieved levels. Thank you for such a pleasant sight! $oHƎMআড্ডা 17:49, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

User page

Oh Titoda, your talk page looks mindblowing but the user page is a bit luke-warm. I mean it looks good but the spinning Ashok Chakra is a bit heavy on the eyes when someone tries to read the article. Plus it reeks of your humbleness which I was instantly drawn towards at the beginning. Please remove the Ashok Chakra or please stabilise it. It ruined the entire-experience. Otherwise 10/10 stars. Khub taratari type korte hoyeche bhulbhal korechi, maaf korbe. $oHƎMআড্ডা 17:56, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

  • That article in the userpage is not to be read. That is for design only. Face-smile.svg The article India has been added there and clarified at the bottom. --TitoDutta 18:30, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Dear Stealth Editor(s): Prior to your deletion, I asked you to please tell me exactly which of th

I respond to this form letter rejection: Information.svg Hello, and thank you for your recent contributions. I appreciate the effort you made for our project, but unfortunately I had to undo your edit(s) because I believe the article was better before you made that change. Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions. Thank you! Tito☸Dutta 21:26, 27 August 2013 (UTC)User talk:108.235.13.244 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Recent edits to Rail transportation in the United States

The above is a general form rejection that does not respond to my below letter to him:

Dear Stealth Editor(s):

We have a problem here. You have removed this section entitled The Socio-Economic Aspects of Passenger Train Travel several times now. Prior to the last two times you deleted it, I asked you to please tell me exactly which of the below statements of fact you consider false. I said that perhaps removing them would be a better response than the wholesale deleting of the section. You did not respond to me. You instead deleted the entire section again.

If your criticism of the section is not that the facts are false, but is merely that you find the facts unimportant, inconvenient, or disturbing, (i.e., you personally do not LIKE the facts), I believe the managers of Wikipedia will not approve of your removing such facts. Just as you would not like having wholesale sections unilaterally deleted from some of your many Wiki articles, on similar personal grounds. Wikipedia is about facts. The below section treats several important aspects of passenger train travel. They are part and parcel of the history of rail in N. America, and I cannot allow their cavalier removal.

Are you a rail fan, sir? Do you not feel the loss of the N. American long distance passenger trains? Do you not wonder how and why this loss occurred? Well, millions of N. Americans DO feel the loss, and DO wonder how it occurred. The subject of rail roads does not consist merely of the physical, and is not limited to an analysis of the transformation from wood to steel wagons, coal to diesel power, low to high speed tracks. The subject of rail roads is much more than that; it has a human side, it has a heart!

I have asked you to tell me which of the facts in the below section you feel are false. I have asked you to be specific. I will then cite you authorities by book and page. If instead your authorities are more learned, footnoted, or better reasoned, only then will I allow a fact to be removed.

Respond to me, Sir! I have visited your several windows and edit histories here on Wikipedia, and have been unable to find any response to my above, nor any justification or support for your actions.

Sincerely, James Hannum Author of below section, The Socio-Economic Aspects of Passenger Train Travel:

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While the above three sub-sections discuss the physical development of North American passenger trains, the social and economic aspects of the development and decline of the long distance American passenger train are also important. For the hundred years between 1850 and 1950, passenger trains were an integral part of American life. The thousands of arrivals and departures of passenger trains daily across North America brought news and new people, and created stories, adventures, and excitement. Train arrival was a big event in the town centers. The taking of a train trip was a thing of importance in the lives of those who travelled seldom, and a thing of necessity in the lives of those who travelled frequently. Trains tied the states, cities, and towns of North America together. Adults and children alike were fascinated by trains, and the approaching sound of their lonesome whistles stirred the blood. The Death and Life of Great American Cities (1961) by Jane Jacobs.

The decline of the long-distance North American passenger train began circa 1950 and has been keenly felt by many Americans as a cultural loss. The automobile began to replace the train, caused in large part by decisions by the US federal and state governments to heavily subsidize the automotive and gasoline industries. Highways in general, and most notably the new Interstate Highway System, were built almost entirely with taxpayer dollars. Very few toll roads were built. In contrast, railroads continued to be built, maintained, and policed by the private railroad companies. Railroads remained "toll roads," i.e., their construction and maintenance are paid for by the individual travellers. This gave a tremendous economic advantage to the automotive and oil industries, over the railroads. In addition were the many subsidies and tax breaks given to oil exploration and refinement; these favored automobile travel over train travel due to the fact that several times more fuel is necessary to transport a human by car than is needed to transport him by train (the great majority of cars on the highway carry only the driver). Asphalt Nation (1997) by Jane Holz Kay. (Small is Beautiful (1973) by E.F. Schumacher.

The reason for treating the two forms of travel so differently has to do with the nature of North America's large state and federal political systems and their lobbies. There is more profit made in selling 600 travellers each a tank of gas, new tires, insurance, etc., than in selling a railroad fuel for one locomotive. Cultural and environmental interests have a smaller voice in large government. [The Case Against the Global Economy and For a Turn Toward the Local (1996), by Jerry Mander and Edward Goldsmith].

In 1930 a man would travel 200 or 1,000 miles from one city to the next by train, enjoying the sights, the dining car, reading, meeting new people, and sleeping in a Pullman car bed. It was considered the most convenient and economical way to travel. By 1980, most passenger service had been eliminated or restricted to the point that the same man no longer could choose the train. He was forced to take a car, and in any event the highways, maintenance, and highway police were paid for by his tax contributions, whether he liked it or not. E.F.Schumacher

Prior to 1950 in North America (and still today in much of Europe) one could take a train and arrive somewhere, i.e., in the centre of a distinctive and pedestrian city or town. The “center” was where the train station was usually located, and where everyone in the town met each other, did their shopping, had their craft and trade shops. You didn’t need a car. The joy was in walking around, being there. Cars isolate and surround the driver; pedestrians experience, interact, and participate. Asphalt Nation (1997) by Jane Holtz Kay; Human Scale (1980) by [Kirkpatrick Sale]. Pedestrian life defined the cities and towns. The train traveler was a pedestrian, delivered from one train station to another. Big cities would have many districts, each with their own centers. Density was desirable and planned, so that things were close by and walkable. The term “suburban sprawl” described the newly planned car-oriented non-dense places. The phrase "What's good for General Motors is good for America" was not only circulated, it was believed by most Americans. Suburban Nation (2000) by Andres Duany, Elizabeth Plater-Zyberk, and Jeff Speck. Certainly it was widely accepted in the time before blue collar and automotive jobs were off-shored, and the Oil Wars began in Iraq. (Compare: Europe subsidized and continued its passenger train service much better than the US did.) [Mander & Goldsmith]; Swadeshi (1921) by Mahatma Gandhi.

The transition from rail travel to automotive was touted as "modern and convenient" in innumerable advertisements and political speeches. For example, the phrase “the American dream,” helped convince Americans that the car payments, gasoline, insurance, parking, and other additions to the family budget were marks of pride and advancement, rather than unnecessary financial burdens. Following World War II, the GI Bill gave veterans no-money-down home loans, but only for new construction, not for expanding or refurbishing existing houses in the cities and towns. This subsidized the building of millions of suburban tract homes, where everything was so widely spaced, one thing from another, that everything had to be done by car, and there were few pedestrians. Single-story construction of new homes and shops, zoning laws which forbade homes, shops, and office buildings in the same areas, wide and multi-lane streets, and the building of several parking lots on every commercial block (the lots being mostly empty except at Christmas) created a nation of increasing suburban sprawl. Every place began to look like every other place, with the same cars, corporate chain stores and food outlets, and parking lots. Trains could no longer arrive in the city or town centers, because pedestrian centers no longer existed. Labor and Monopoly Capital (1974) by Harry Braverman; Suburban Nation (2000) by Andres Duany, Elizabeth Plater-Zyberk, and Jeff Speck; Global City Blues (2003) by Daniel Solomon.

Most people recognize that there more difference between the three modes of travel (train, automobile, and jet aircraft) than their fuel, speed, and types of wheels. The differences are not just superficial. The true difference between trains and the other two forms of transportation lies in the humanity (modern phrase: community) of train travel, which is not present in automobile and air travel. [The Death and Life of Great American Cities] (1961) by Jane Jacobs. Fellow travellers on a train form communities, although they are temporary and transitory. People walk around a train, they sleep on a train, they meet each other. Part of this is because trains take longer than planes. Chicago to New York, New Orleans to Washington DC, Paris to Rome... these take 8 or 14 hours, and usually are scheduled to arrive at the convenient time of 7 or 8 AM. Being part of the train for that night, one has to share and interact with his fellow travellers, much more than he would in an automobile or strapped to a tiny airline seat. It may be said of the occupants of a train wagon: "In their communality is their beauty and strength, and the beauty and strength of mankind." [Jacobs; Braverman; Gandhi] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.235.13.244 (talk) 21:52, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

  • You are talking about this edit which was unsourced, poorly written, poorly formatted. --TitoDutta 22:08, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the lovely welcome message

As you have rightly mentioned, i am news to wikipedia editing and would like to make some contributions. Your help and guidance is required in the same. This page(Asaram Bapu) with which i have started have been told to me that it is highly one sided, I am just trying to bring the another side of the story also in the picture. Saurabh hariom (talk) 05:45, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

The link appears broken...

When clicking on the link to the English Newspaper Custom Search Engine, I now get an error message. It the site down?Schmidt, Michael Q. 07:48, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

  • The website is (actually "was") down. I have a free account there. For example, you have an account at Wikipedia/Facebook and the whole website is down. I have nothing to do here. It is working now. There is an alternative page, hosted by Google. Please change dse-->cse in the URL after clicking. Google's CSE URLs are blacklisted and they don't allow me to post links. In the URL. But, one needs sign in to Google account to use it. And you'll not get the list of indexed newspapers at the bottom. But, searching (the main thing) will work fine and you'll almost never get errors. In addition, you might get few ads from Google (the same way you get ads when you search in Google, at the top of search results). Google will show these ads there. Not me. In the my3gb search page, I turned off ads, and changed search results to 20/page and compact views so that one finds many results after first click.
    If such errors continue, I'll ask an admin t Mediawiki Blacklist page to add the link there ignoring the blacklist at WP:INDAFD, WP:INDT --TitoDutta 11:20, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
    • Thank you. I am going to copy this message to the talk page over at WP:INDAFD. Face-smile.svg Good job. Schmidt, Michael Q. 17:23, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Shreya Ghoshal

Don't you think that the Shreya Ghoshal article fills the criteria to be a featured or good article. Bubaikumar (talk) 07:57, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

  • The article looks good. Try WP:PEER --TitoDutta 11:26, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I'm sorry Tito da. But I still don't quite understand why you suggested this page: WP:PEER. Bubaikumar (talk) 14:19, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Wrong link, try WP:PR TitoDutta 14:46, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Sig

Hey Tito, how's my new signature?  SBJ☸talk

 SBJ☸talk 17:40, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

  • Very good. --TitoDutta 17:43, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks had to work very hard to achieve it. The unicode font is borrowed from you. Steve's words shook me to the core.  SBJ☸talk 17:49, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Another modification -  SBJ☸talk 10:51, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Asaram Bapu

–Hi, Asaram bapu page is totally biased and does not represent true facts. It is best to remove that page from wikipedia. Let us know what should be procedure in order to remove this page from wikipedia. It will be best compromise for all the editors. Please respond to this and take action at the earliest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Narbajaj (talkcontribs) 00:31, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Re: What's new

As Ganeshk suggested, AshLin would be a great resource for overall wikimedia happenings in India.

I think India winning the Wikimedia Loves Monument contest needs to be mentioned. Also, there was a successful women editors meet in Mumbai within the last year. Perhaps you can ask User:Rohini.--Dwaipayan (talk) 02:38, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

One thing that may be added in new things is articles/lists getting featured status, or featured in main page.--Dwaipayan (talk) 02:48, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Invention

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Hello, Titodutta.

You are invited to join WikiProject Invention, a WikiProject and resource dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of inventions and invention-related topics.
To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:43, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

  • I'll join right now after saving this edit. --TitoDutta 10:21, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for signing on with the project, Tito. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:42, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi

Hi. --71.251.237.234 (talk) 15:52, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

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Horror Story?

I've received a query about the NAC of the AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Horror Story (2013 film). I am somewhat torn here. I know you are an expert on Indian matters, and I respect Michael Q as a film expert, Lugnuts as an experienced editor also in the film area, and TG79 as a diligent digger in any area, but I do agree with the questioner that less than 24 hours was a little short for consensus and non-admin closing. I know little about Indian films (having watched a few in total incomprehension, but owning a few CDs of Bollywood music), so it's the procedural side I'm interested in here. I'm contacting TG79 and Michael Q as involved admins, and Lugnuts, and would appreciate your views on my talk page (rather than go to a drama board), if you get the chance. Cheers. Peridon (talk) 10:27, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

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Asaram Bapu

Tito, I'm hoping you remain involved in the discussions about Bapu. I know you and I had a little trouble communicating at first, but I believe you have the best interests of the article and the project in mind (that doesn't mean, of course, that we have to agree on everything). I understand you may have some reluctance because of the possibility of a future RfA, and I certainly wouldn't want to interfere in your judgment on that or on any other editors' opinions on the issue. That is, of course, entirely up to you. I just thought I'd throw in an encouraging word of support regarding the Bapu article, but whatever you decide is fine. Take care.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:51, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

  • RFA is not a big deal, I am continuously rejecting proposals, though I am being trained, i.e. admin coached by Moonriddengirl User:Moonriddengirl/Coaching. Yes, I have been following the discussion. Just now, you have linked WP:BLPCRIME. Chances are you may be asked that the section does not mention talk page discussions. The direct part of the page which deals with it is WP:BLPTALK. Now, WP:BLPTALK is badly injuring the discussion there. It is not possible to continue the discussion or do any improvement in such condition. I have found out another thing. A number of nest reliable sources are using Wikipedia as source, but our article is disputed so it is polluting the whole web. The tags (neutrality disputed etc) seems to be an urgent need. --TitoDutta 16:13, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
  • You are indeed fortunate to be coached by Moonriddengirl. You can make a request to have a neutrality tag put on the article (unless it's there and I missed it - so much going on). The web is what it is - impossible to control.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:43, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
  • There is already an edit request and we somehow managed to reach a consensus too Talk:Asaram_Bapu#Neutrality_Disputed, there are more edit requests at the talk page. --TitoDutta 16:48, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

List of Bengali Films 2013

Dear Tito Da, I have been great fan of yours on the page List of Bengali Films 2013 release. I used to get all the information about the details of which film is coming and when. Fortunately I have also produced a movie and is slated for release on 20th Sept 2013. I would request you to kindly include the same in you list. The details are:- Opening:- 20th Sept 2013, Title:- Tiyasha Director:- Animesh Ray, Cast:- Saswata Chatterjee, Chandrayee Ghosh, Sohum Choudhury, Shekhar, Romance / Drama CBFC Rating:- U ( applied and would be getting within next week)

The film Tiyasha has a page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiyasha I would thank you for updating the same. My phone number is (Redacted) and my name is Animesh Bagchi. Would be thrilled to talk to you as you maintain such a nice and informative page. Thank you so much and bye. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bagchi 2000 (talkcontribs) 09:57, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

  • I'll check that shortly. I have redacted your mobile number for your privacy. --TitoDutta 10:21, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
  • The article Tiyasha says it was released on 17 August. Do you have any online source which states it'll release on the date you mentioned? --TitoDutta 10:24, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Dear Tito da, 17th August was Music release. Film would be released on 20th Sept 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.80.194.50 (talk) 09:54, 30 August 2013 (UTC) I have rectified the Tiyasha page. Thank you Tito Da for your support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bagchi 2000 (talkcontribs) 13:14, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

New Image for Wikiproject India

Hi টিটোদা,

Saw the comic invitation at Northamerica1000 and designed this in photoshop. Will you use it in a Wikiproject India invitation?        17:38, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

  • a) I have not invited Northamercia with that template (actually I invited him few months ago). b) your image does not seem to be edited in Photoshop (i.e. I can not see any Photoshop EXIF data, but it get deleted if you edit it in Paint after editing in (Photoshop etc), worse it seems to be a copyright violation of this, c) when writing words, try this combination Saffron blue green, d) there are many other works at WikiProject India (including template creation, essay writing, initiative co-ordination etc). Let me know if you want to do those. --17:59, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Yes its edited in photoshop otherwise I could'nt have added the font glow, shadow + I think the EXIF data got deleted because I saved it in PNG after JPG. Its a retouched picture as you saw.        06:41, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
See this one.

Uploaded this one. It contains the EXIF data you mentioned.        07:00, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

  • Nominate the last photo for deletion. I am not going to use this one in the invitation. You have not told, if you want to do other WikiProject India related works. --TitoDutta 14:03, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
  • But why, its not a copy-vio, it looks attractive then again beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. Yes I do want to do other Wikiproject India related works. Just tell me what to do.        15:56, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
  • The first image seemed to be a a derivative work --TitoDutta 16:18, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Yes the first one's a derivative/retouched/coppy-vio work, if you say I'll delete it but whats wrong with the second?        05:46, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for removing that double-post. I have no idea how that happened, I didn't even see a weird twitch or anything to make me think I was posting twice. :-)--Jimbo Wales (talk) 23:33, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

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Please stop edit warring at Asaram Bapu page

Anyone may say anything here. --TitoDutta 01:21, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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Hello. Please stop the edit war you have started on the Asaram Bapu page. If you have a problem, go ahead and discuss it with Jimmy Wales here: Wikipedia:BLP noticeboard#Asaram Bapu--Crème3.14159 (talk) 00:03, 2 September 2013 (UTC)


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Edit warring warning

An editor whose talk page was already filled with warnings is unhappy after getting another one. --TitoDutta 01:21, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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You have been warned previously about edit warring. If you disrupt other's constructive contributions to the Wikipedia any further, you may risk getting blocked. If you have a problem with a particular edit, please specify it why it is problematic; merely reverting is not the way to go.--Crème3.14159 (talk) 00:45, 2 September 2013 (UTC)


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Apologies for accidental removal of a section

Hi. I accidentally removed the Attempted Murder section from your version. It was not my intention to do so.[1] So, I readded it verbatim. --Crème3.14159 (talk) 14:38, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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No BLP week

Following my last year's resolution I'll avoid editing BLPSs from 16—22 September. --TitoDutta 20:57, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

User Page

I tried to copy your previous style in the user page. Don't know whether it looks good or not. It's better if you comment. Bubaikumar (talk) 07:16, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

  • @Bubaikumar:, the page is looking fine. You need to write image credit details. If you are going to create Bengali film articles. include Mrs. Sen, A Political Murder and Ganesh Talkies in your task list. --TitoDutta 07:37, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
  • Ok I'll do that. Actually, I am the uploader of the image. So, I did not mention any credits. I found that on Flickr. Bubaikumar (talk) 07:42, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
  • @Bubaikumar:, if you own copyright of the image, then image credit may not be necessary. --TitoDutta 17:21, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Bubaikumar he's talking about design credits. Sohambanerjee1998 09:53, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

It should be Page design courtesy of Ocaasi, Sonia, photo from Vearthy (In this case its you so it up-to you whether you'll credit yourself or not).Sohambanerjee1998 09:56, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

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Check

Please check some of my newly created articles.

Bubaikumar (talk) 16:40, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

  • Yes check.svg Done --TitoDutta 19:25, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:WikiProject India editor's observation

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  • Replied. --TitoDutta 20:51, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Barun Biswas

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

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For creating and getting to DYK the article on Barun Biswas. Dwaipayan (talk) 02:30, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

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Could not find suitable sources

I am extremely sorry Titoda. I tried a lot to find suitable sources to expand the article Swami Vivekananda (film), but the could not find the required ones, which are needed for the expansion as per your wish. Helpless! Bubaikumar (talk) 13:59, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Why

did you undo my changes to Parents Worship Day?

My AfD reasoning did not make any mention of the sources. Just because you mentioned once that the sources need fixing does not make the Afd a discussion about sources. My edits are totally independent of Afd, so you cannot use it to justify putting back unsourced material.

Also, saying the article is not BLP so does not need to be sourced immediately makes 0 sense. This is not a new article. This unsourced content has been on the page for months. Or are you saying only BLP articles need sourcing?

I request you to please put back my changes. --vvarkey (talk) 08:34, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

  • @Vvarkey:, the article's primary issue is not: lack of sources, but, the issues is sources have not been properly added, there are errors in the existing refs too. You can go ahead and fix those and add other sources (there are sources). I don;t have hope that you are going to help in these articles. Then wait for someone else. Removal of every unsourced information is not an urgent need there. And if you are thinking to reduce the article to a stub and then argue at the AFD that article is a stub, so merge, then that is a bad idea. I'll try to look at the article soon. --TitoDutta 08:48, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
    • don't make this personal. if you "don;t have hope that I am going to help in these articles", keep that to yourself. Ditto if you think I am "

thinking to reduce the article to a stub and then argue at the AFD that article is a stub". --vvarkey (talk) 09:16, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

  • @Vvarkey: Check your own edits. these are your edits in Asaram Bapu article and these are your edits in the Parents' Worship Day article and show me few edits in which you expanded the articles adding reliable sources. The worse thing is you nominated the article for deletion on 2 September, today is 6 September, still, you have not written the nominator's deletion rationale there. I am still wondering why you nominated the article for deletion and what are you trying to do there. Not only you, after 1 year long dispute, I have hope from no one here. Still, if you want to help, go and add few sources there and add a short controversy section too (use that Tehelka article as source). There are few good sources in Hindi newspapers which might be added in the article. Else, I'll try to do these things in next 1—2 days. --TitoDutta 09:38, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Josephine MacLeod

As per your note on my talkpage I have started writing on Josephine MacLeod, a well known devotee of Swami Vivekananda. It needs more text (on her place of birth, education, early life and later life after Swamiji's death) from her biography for which I could not find sources. May be you can add more to make it 5x. I did one on Hinduism in Los Angeles, which also brings out Swamji's mission in the US. I have been his ardent admirer from my college days when I read all his books of lectures in the United States. One of his devotees Alasinga Perumal was my distant relative.--Nvvchar. 16:11, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

  • You have already 5x expanded the article. I shall add some more details on Vivekananda—MacLeod relation. Meanwhile I have 5x expanded Swami Vivekananda (film). Yesterday I watched the film and it was a disaster. Anyway, I have already done 5x expansion and now only the prose copyediting remains. Can you do it? We have 60 hours or so in hand. You can nominate the article at DYK too. Please mention that "Mithun Chakraborty" getting his third National Award for the film Swami Vivekananda in the hook. That is the only good thing in the movie. You do not need to do QPQ. I am already doing it, link Template:Did you know nominations/21st Arizona Territorial Legislature as QPQ.
    Alasinga Perumal was a great person, the article was DYK-ed on 31 May this year. The hook was Did you know that... ... that Alasinga Perumal (pictured) sold his wife's jewelry to help the financially beleaguered Swami Vivekananda, a participant in the 1893 Parliament of the World's Religions in Chicago?'. Very rarely I select such a sensitive/emotional hook. All other things I have to say about Alasinga Perumal, I have already written those in the article, please read this section Alasinga_Perumal#Relationship_with_Swami_Vivekananda to learn what a great man he was. It is unfortunate that today's Indian/South Indian people are forgetting him. I'll copy this message to your talk page and inform you after doing work in MacLeod article. --TitoDutta 22:09, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

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Mithun Da

Man, it is important to upload mithunda as ramakrishna paramahamsa and not a real mithun in the swami vivekanada film page, so please revert the phone uploaded earlier by me as " ramakrishna paramahamsa " ..regards Rajeshbieee (talk) 10:43, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

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