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God of the gaps[edit]

Thanks for your excellent work in tracking down those most important of primary sources on the subject of the God of the gaps, and sharing them. Apparently you already know it's a subject that has gained increasingly wide relevance today (what with "intelligent design", "theistic evolution", "artificial life", "panentheism", and a host of other meeting places at the borders of traditional theism). Good regards. ... Kenosis 16:06, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Ray's Hell Burger[edit]

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Myth of the flat earth[edit]

Well actually you're wrong, Tom.

There isn't a single statement throughout the article of "modern misconception that the prevailing cosmological view" was of a flat earth. The Russell quotes from Irving don't go that far: one portrayal of an ecclesiastical gentleman wittering about the hide of the sky doesn't amount to much and so many of Russell's statements are demonstrably wrong. e.g. it's obvious that what is in Isidore's Etymology is essentially no different from what Anaximander was saying a thousand years before - and he even pinched the map design from him. He's certainly heard of more modern views - but he doesn't accept them.

There is a single account of American Pageant which possibly is responsible for some the misconception - but it says nothing about "prevailing views" only about a few sailors - and where did it get its ideas from? Not the quoted sources. And when did it appear and when was it pulled from that text?

The genuine flat-earthers such as Rowbotham and Kruger don't get a mention. Why? Because almost to a person they were fundamentalist Christians, still are. And as for all the jokes and films - positively puerile! And since Rowbotham's first book was in 1849, Russell's idea that it was all a reaction to the evolution debate is questionable.

I won't reinstate the second statement. I put it in in despair to see if any of the creationists would notice. And since it ignores Pliny it's not even totally correct. But I really would like to see some evidence. It seems like it's a classic urban legend that is being used to promote singularly uninformed views. (I'll put your talk on my watchlist.) Chris55 (talk) 12:29, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Young Earth creationism[edit]

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I'm trying to make (what appear to me to be) uncontroversial changes to Young Earth creationism, but immediately got them reverted with the charge of being "religiously motivated", which I think is unwarranted. I've tried to enter into a discussion about the nature of the changes, but somehow or other the reverter and I don't seem to be able to communicate. With the exception of one small comment, no one else seems to be at all interested. I've tried, most recently, dipping a toe in the water to make the changes one at a time, with no reaction at all to those changes after waiting a few days. I was about to go ahead with the changes as I see fit, when I see that Talk:Young Earth creationism got tagged with a warning about possible sanctions. I don't know who or what the warning is about. What am I to do? TomS TDotO (talk) 17:12, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

About the sanction tag, where was this? If you're referring to the tag at the top of Talk:Young Earth creationism, that isn't specifically directed at you, but is a general notice to all editors that edits to that page are treated with an added level of scrutiny and that admins may be a little more ruthless in taking action against editors that cause problems. As for the content dispute you are involved in, you may wish to request a third opinion from a neutral party. If that doesn't help, there are other dispute resolution processes, but I don't expect they'll be necessary in this case. AJCham 22:30, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Leonardo da Vinci[edit]

I notice that you added another book to the bibliography. People keep adding every book they come across. I am in a quandry as to what to do about this. On one hand, a book may provide a student with valuable information, but on the other hand if I didn't use that book in writing the article, then I can't really cite it. Amandajm (talk) 12:15, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Shape of the Earth Merger Discussion[edit]

Your comments are welcome at the discussion of the merger proposals involving Flat Earth, Spherical Earth, and Shape of the Earth. --SteveMcCluskey (talk) 21:22, 5 September 2010 (UTC) {{Wikiproject Young Earth Creationism invite}}

Speedy deletion nomination of Switch Witch[edit]

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Sorry about that. I now that it's not a hoax, it's just not notable. JDDJS (talk) 01:44, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Switch Witch[edit]

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DYK for Laccognathus embryi[edit]

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Evolution Natural Selection[edit]

Please tell me why u have reverted changes to the sections i have edited- i have complete knowledge of the subject and i am working towards a biology degree in university — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.38.136.79 (talk) 13:36, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Message for you at Talk Torah[edit]

i took out the words "possible" exception to Moses writing the last 8 verses and explained why Learned69 (talk) 01:43, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

I responded to your commnents at talk TorahLearned69 (talk) 00:25, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Edit request Evolution[edit]

My reply was not answered on the talk page of evolution and I was hoping you would. Do you care to? --173.66.184.34 (talk) 18:09, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

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Intelligent design[edit]

Hi, thanks for you edit on Intelligent design. You may have noticed that I have started a thread because of your edit, but not intended to be a criticism of it as such, more a request for consideration of a bigger issue. I was in any case wondering what else the latest OED definition gives.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 12:31, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Maybe you could mail me snippets rather than "publishing" it online here?--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 15:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks but I think that is the bit you already quoted. It implies that there is another meaning which is not chief?--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 17:07, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
There is only one entry given under "Intelligent design", which is: "Deliberate design in the natural or physical world, attributed to an intelligent entity (usually identified as God); the appearance of this. In later use (freq. with capital initials): a theory which posits this. Cf. design n. 5." The paragraph which I quoted is an expansion on this, in smaller print. TomS TDotO (talk) 17:13, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

CN tag on Aristotle article[edit]

Hi, concerning this tag, the citation looks complete, so if there is something insufficient perhaps you can give more details of what the concern is?--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 07:47, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

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Your ID comment[edit]

In that most recent comment, I suspect you meant your first use of "astronomy" to say "astrology". HiLo48 (talk) 00:43, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

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