User talk:TonyClarke

Dear Tony; Hi! Welcome to the 'pedia. I hope you like it and enjoy it enough to contribute your great knowledge into our site continuously. Im honored to be the first one giving you a welcome, as usually administrators have the honor, not collaborators like me.

As a matter of a fact I do not follow the diet. I have diabetes and so well I dont even follow the diabetes diet to tell you the truth..LOL But I found your article interesting and knowledge enhancing.

I see you are from Scotland. Beautiful country. Check my article on Ken Buchanan. No doubt one of the greatest boxers from Europe, and I thought he deserved an entry here,. What happened to him as champion I think makes his life story a compelling one.

Well, Tony thats all for now. Tha nks for everything and God bless you!!

Sincerely yours, Antonio Lets get WIIILDD!! Martin

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Hi Antonio, thanks for the warm welcome.

You have written a lot, I'll look up Ken Buchanan,sounds interesting. You probably don't need me to tell you you should consider a diet, the Fuhrman one is the best I have found. I know it's not easy socially or motivationally, but hey God will probably thank you for looking after that body he lent you..

I don't know if this is the right plavce to answer your note, thanks again, and no doubt we will speak again.

Tony TonyClarke 18:23 Apr 25, 2003 (UTC)

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A picture of a big cat is needed, but are you sure you're allowed to use this particular picture on Wikipedia? If you got it off a Club Med web page, one would normally assume that Club Med or someone else have the copyright, which means you'll have to have explicit permission to use it elsewhere. If you got that, there should be a reference to it on the image page: Image:ClubMed.jpg. Egil 12:30 Apr 26, 2003 (UTC)

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No you're right I didn't havepermission and looks like I needed it so I'll remove it. Any idea how to search for copyright free images? TonyClarke 12:51 Apr 26, 2003 (UTC)

Very good question, indeed. And I don't have a very good answer. Searching your own photo album is the best place, obviously. Things funded directly by the US government, such as NASA, are often free to use. For other stuff, is certainly does not hurt asking. See Wikipedia:Boilerplate request for permission. PS: I think you need to put the Club Med image up on the Wikipedia:Votes for deletion. -- Egil 13:20 Apr 26, 2003 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Public domain image resources. -- Egil 22:17 Apr 26, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks Egil, I'll check these out

TonyClarke 22:30 Apr 26, 2003 (UTC)

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Hey, TC... we're taking issue with your bits on enzymes and digestion in Enzyme. Come rant at us on Talk:Enzyme. Graft

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I edited your user page to disambiguate the link to Python programming language. Hope you don't mind.Tenbaset 05:08 7 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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thanks Tenbaset, I'm sure that wast the right thing to do, one day I'll understand. TonyClarke 20:13, 3 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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I have re-added links to "secularism" and "humanism" from Jesus Christ, rephrasing their context. My edit summary (see here) explains my reasoning. If you disagree, feel free to remove them again. Cheers, Cyan 00:15, 31 Oct 2003 (UTC)

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We already have a page at fast food restaurant. Will fast food have a different content or should it just be a redirect? Rmhermen 14:38, Nov 8, 2003 (UTC)

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Oops, thanks Rmhermen, we'll need to give this some thought, perhaps a merge is called for, I think the process or movement apprach rather than restaurant approach ismore promising, but the restourant page certainaly has some interesting and wide ranging content. TonyClarke 21:52, 8 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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Hey! Thanks for the acknowledgement re Genocide. I appreciate the feedback! -- VV 09:42, 11 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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In Is-Ought Problem you used far too many capital letters. I moved it to is-ought problem. It is not conventional in Wikipedia to capitalize common nouns in article titles. Michael Hardy 02:19, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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I don't understand why you reverted my edit to sport. I made a concerted effort to avoid deleting any information; what's "gone" from that page is now included in more specific entries such as professional sports and history of sport. You've been doing excellent work. --The Cunctator 00:21, 13 Dec 2003 (UTC)

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Thank you for your positive comments about my work.

I feel that the reworking of the article requires justification, and more basically perhaps deserved some explanation or discussion at the time. The absence of either of these led me to think that the reworking was an act of vandalism, whose reversion needed no explaination. Howere, it obviously does need some discussion now.

The article has lost something in being broken up, even though I accept your assurance that all of the original material has been preserved. There is a certain synergy in keeping all of the elements of the article together, e.g. the cumulative evidence in the original article that sport evolved from everyday activities or skills is now lost, as the art and history sections are not now read together by the casual reader. I also think that the History of sport is now less likely to be read, as it is a more specialist subject which is less likely to be looked up, even though it may be an area of question for some readers.

All in all, thank you for the work you did, but unless there is some over-riding Wikipedian policy or principle involved, I would prefer the original article to be re-instated.

TonyClarke 23:23, 13 Dec 2003 (UTC)

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Thank you for your very nice note -- I appreciate it. And I hope that you continue to preservere. It can certainly be rather challenging at times! But overall it's not half bad... -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 04:24, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

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I agree with your revert of fundamentalism i.e. seeing fundamentalism as a disease. The contributor should at least give example of psychologists. I dislike arguing with these people I have already argued with them on the Dutch version of Fundamentalism. I had asked one week ago examples for this on the Dutch version but I received no reply. Andries 12:46, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Dinghy racing and dinghy sailing

Tony -- I've just seen your cri de coeur about undoing a redirect of dinghy racing to dinghy sailing. I have done it for you (and moved the material), but for future reference, it is quite easy: You just have to find the redirect page and edit that, replacing the redirect line with some real content. There are several ways of finding the redirect page, but the easiest is just to GO to the redirect: you will then get the parent page, but with a line saying "redirected from ..." with the ... as a link; if you click on that link you get the redirect page. seglea 06:30, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Scientific enterprise has moved to its own article

Thank you for your work on scientific enterprise. I moved it, just so you know. Ancheta Wis 10:45, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Nutrition

I read this article awhile ago, but I felt it wasn't written in professional prose. Eg: "It appears that to stay young and live long, we must stay thin!"

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Thanks for your comments.

I worded that statement in a deliberately non-technical way, to try to show that a healthy and long life is not necessarily achieved through scientific, academic knowledge , but that it might be a matter of commonsense, i.e. stay thin and don't overeat. Sometimes professionalism can obscure the main picture? Anyway, I'll reread the article, I have thought it had some repetition in it, and maybe some of the language like this needs looked at again.

TonyClarke 00:20, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing

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Torture by proxy

The two references you provided did not seem to function. Please could you check them out and restore them if they work. I would particularly like the quote torture by proxy if it was used in the Times otherwise it ought to be taken out of quotes as it is not used in the Telegraph article which I used as a substitiute

If you have time it would be nice to add the relevent pieces to a section on Uzbekistan to the article Uses of torture in recent times Philip Baird Shearer 17:58, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Graeme Obree

Thanks for the note. I have noticed regular mentions of Graeme in Cycling Weekly over recent months. In the run-up to this month's 10-mile championship (held near my old home town of Nantwich), he was a non-starter, but only a week early won the Fullarton Wheelers 25-mile time trial. The Fullarton club seems to be based in Ayrshire (sample contacts have addresses in Kilwinning and Glengarnock). Paul W

Veganism Links

Hi Tony!

Although I appreciate that you've put a lot of effort into the "Veganism" entry, I politely suggest that you've been a bit heavy-handed on editing out so many Vegan-related links.

You recently edited out organizations, the most popular vegan lecturer on the circuit, some vegan blogs, and so forth.

I don't believe the credibility or accuracy of the entry was hampered by these links being included, and many of the ones you "cut" would have been useful to those exploring veganism.

I urge you to show a little more restraint in the future regarding links.... imho, they deserve a little more lattitude, and can help people if not edited so much.

However, I'd love to see them alphabetized and may take that on some time (at least they are more or less right now).

Best regards from a fellow vegan... Mark Sutton 11/02/05

Photo requested

You live in Glasgow, so could you take a pic of the Jordanhill railway station and upload it to Wikipedia? It's our 1 millionth English language article. -- user:zanimum

ABC and Simula

Long long time ago you added this sentence to the Guido van Rossum article: "He worked on the development of the ABC programming language, a descendant of the Simula language." Might you have a reference for this relationship between these two languages? I can't find any support for the claim and don't see much they have in common, other than both being imperative languages. Lambiam 04:18, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I found this quote on the SETL page:

Python's predecessor, ABC, was inspired by SETL -- Lambert Meertens spent a year with the SETL group at NYU before coming up with the final ABC design! [1]

--Guido van Rossum

I'll remove the Simula clause from the article. Lambiam 16:18, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

The sentence in the talk announcement you found was clearly copied from the Wikipedia entry on GvR! By the way, you put your reply on my User page; I've moved it to my User talk page. Lambiam 13:04, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

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Care Commission

Hi, just wanted to say thanks for the edits to Care Commission; it's great to see an article take of and develop. Cheers. --Brideshead 19:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Hunza diet

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That is too bad: I suspect it was a good one, though veganism/orthopathy/raw foodism are probably the most important.--Dchmelik (talk) 04:09, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

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Survey request

Hi, TonyClarke I need your help. I am working on a research project at Boston College, studying creation of medical information on Wikipedia. You are being contacted because you have been identified as an important contributor to one or more articles.

Would you will be willing to answer a few questions about your experience? We've done considerable background research, but we would also like to gather the insight of the actual editors. Details about the project can be found at the user page of the project leader, geraldckane. Survey questions can be found at geraldckane/medsurvey. Your privacy and confidentiality will be strictly protected!

The questions should only take a few minutes. I hope you will be willing to complete the survey, as we do value your insight. Please do not hesitate to contact me or Professor Kane if you have any questions. Thank You, BCproject (talk) 08:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

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Re: raw foodism, veganism and another topic

Peace be with you,

You asked if I thought raw foodism should be called rawism. Actually I am in favour, and if it is done of course there should be a redirect.

I see you are interested in veganism and Dr. Fuhrman, who I think is either a Natural Hygiene (NH) doctor or recommends NH without saying. Would you be interested in discussing/editing the orthopathy article? (that alternate name is okay I guess since there is a newer scientific theory also named 'natural hygiene.') Verbal and I have been arguing over what is appropriate for the article. I had added several non-criticized and mainstream citations supporting NH, but some editors seem to want the page skewed to reactionary, uneducated critical viewpoints. Verbal did bring up good points about what would be better style and formatting. Others have tried to improve/expand the article and have added some good citations, but I am not sure the style is okay (there are many tags saying it is not, though some may just be reactionary.) I am not asking you to discuss/edit if you do not want to, and there are some NH aspects I am skeptical about such as whether vaccines prevented pandemics and whether 100% rawism is advisable, but it seems the diet part might be in your topics and the article has been deleted several times in the past. It seems worth keeping, since for example one could eat fries & salad and be vegan but not get enough of some nutrients, but unless one did get them one would not be NH, so it is about the only Western idea distinguished from veganism that way, but the critic cited in the article (Barrett) does not understand that and the American Dietetic Association (ADA) contradicts him on whether veganism is healthy. A friend who writes/lectures recommending veganism lately told me the ADA recommended vegetarianism. I do not know if they said anything more on veganism, but The China Study, which Fuhrman has referred to, also has a significantly contrary viewpoint to Barrett, as I had once explained in the article. I may not be editing it for a while because I am just tired of my non-criticized and mainstream citations being removed; I just thought you might be interested in this one.

I am quite interested in the raw foodism article and hope it stays reasonable, though I am not 100% rawist myself anymore. I could not get enough calories without having a pretty difficult/limited diet, and I have read some detailed refutations of whether various substances are present/better/relevant in raw food. I still try to do up to 90% but if I am doing athleticism or intense thinking (philosophy or math/computing, ...) it seems rawism does not work well. Of course if someone got sick and so then fasted it would potentially harm the digestive system to not eat raw afterwards, but it seems humans evolved by eating more calories from cooked food. One recent NPR interview says other apes prefer some cooked food, but I wonder what other animals do and if there still might be a way to go 100% raw. I have some ideas on improving raw food processes. Maybe I am wrong in not trying them immediately before other work and not doing 100% raw, but who knows: I still think 50% - 90% is fine. Another reason I do not go 100% is some doctors of NH or osteopathy (which seems to have adopted the fundamental NH idea but not applied it much) recommend not eating before solar noon if avoidable, so I do, so it is harder to get calories. Some historical spiritual groups do that (e.g. Essenes) or only eat before noon instead (e.g. Buddhist monks) and I wonder if they would be appropriate for the list of diets you have edited or the fasting article.

I see you edited Christian anarchism. To put it mildly I am a Christian (or Theosophist/Bahai) Platonist, but I think anarchism and Platonic Republic might end up the same way. Ethical anarchism and Classical Philosophy both hold the practice of virtue to be part of the highest ideal. I still think anarchy is an idea for youth--not me anymore. Activism in the context of famous quotes of Jefferson, Gandhi, MLK (and various conflicting thinkers I feel like avoiding mentioning) is good, but I also think it is okay to participate virtuously in governed society. It seems established anarchy still leads to what an anarchist friend of mine calls 'power relationships'--like in governed society. However as an ideal it is still best if everyone is virtuous enough to govern themselves, which you could call either anarchy or a Republic beyond its Classical model. I was wondering if Christian anarchism is your philosophy or if you are just interested, but you need not say. I am always interested in what someone into philosophy, veganism, and computing thinks of social topics or what articles one thinks could improve.--Dchmelik (talk) 04:06, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughts

I hadn't looked at natural hygiene, I certainly agree with most of its principles. Medicine conventionally often reacts to symptoms rather than causes, and always runs the risk of making things worse. Also I have benefitted from fasting in the past. I will add to the article if I can think of relevant stuff.

Christian anarchism just appeals to me as a happy joining of ideas which I separately support. I suppose it doesn't have to be Christian: Bahai was (is?) seen as anarchist in its birthplace, and most religions have been persecuted as a threat to the established order, whether this was true or not. But look what happened to the Roman Empire! Anarchism I find a philosophically attractive idea, I think it is authority which is the non-natural idea, although apparently sometimes necessary.

'Rawist' I think is even less widely used, at least in my neck of the woods, than 'raw foodist'. Anyway, what's in a name, I think it's important the page is slimmed down and better organised in a NPOV way.

Good to talk with a fellow spirit!

Points of sail

Hi Tony,

See my comment about recovering from being in irons; I think there was a typo in your edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirclicksalot (talk • contribs) 11:51, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

References for Articles

Hi,

I noticed you were working on referencing the Dinghy sailing article and I wanted to give you some friendly pointers. I am assuming that you are going to eventually take this article back to GAN and to that end I would suggest putting you references into a template and not having links though out the page. I added the {{Reflist}} template and move some of your references into templates already. This should make it easier for you to continue a more standard type of referencing using copy past and changing the appropriate info. A couple of other things I would like to note

1. I didn't look at it too closely but one of you links looks like it's to a collection of books for sale with a brief exert from the book. You would be better served to find the book through a Google search - or the like - and use a citation template and add all of the information.
2. There is a book listed as a reference. I thought it might be beneficial to look at some other pages that extensively use books as references ways of adding inline citation. The Bobby Orr and Art Ross pages have a lot of inline citation from books and a extensive bibliography section, so if you are planning on use lots of references from books it might help to see how those pages handed it.

Hope this helps. Cheers --Mo Rock...Monstrous (talk) 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips

Hi Leech 44

Very helpful, will have to put aside some time and get this done. Appreciate your help!

TonyClarke (talk) 22:13, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Kantian veganism

Yep, fair enough ;-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:35, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Nagel

A most excellent rant. We need more like that one. SlimVirgin ^{TALK|CONTRIBS} 17:53, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

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What is your knowledge of ethics and philosophy?

Okay, you "edited" article on ethics on basis that "the anonymous poster needs to justify its inclusion from among hundreds of similar works". So tell me which classical works on ethics are not even mentioned in this article? And if you somehow figure out after googling, please add them to the list while removing the truly unnecessary content. Tony, it is very easy to play "editor" deleting content (bandwagoning with another "editor" with blatant illiteracy), but yes, it is difficult to add content... And read this http://chronicle.com/article/The-Undue-Weight-of-Truth-on/130704/ it will help you in your Wiki endeavours... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.91.198.186 (talk) 02:10, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

My knowledge

It depends on what you mean by knowledge : ) I have a Master's degree in moral philosophy from the University of Glasgow here in Scotland, since you ask. But I hope my views stand up on their own. TonyClarke (talk) 16:36, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok. I was thinking last night: you're right that the work I suggested is one among many and actually I accept your point. I appreciate also the fact that you answered my question. Good example... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.91.198.186 (talk) 22:57, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

I appreciate your asking, and thanks for the open way you have dealt with this. I wish you well in your work here, you are right to question edits, there are some editors who can appear to be overly negative. Tony TonyClarke (talk) 00:39, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

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