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TrappistTheMonk: please email me (via talk-->email) for an offline discussion, thanks! Ssier (talk) 20:22, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

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Invisible text in Carding

Hello. Is there something you'd like to do with this? It's been there for a year or so, so I thought you might have forgotten about it. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:20, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Taxonomy

Can you be careful with altering authority citations in articles on plants and animals. Parentheses are used in these to indicate that a species (or subspecies) name was originally given in a different genus. For plants, authors are often cited with abbreviations of their names ending in periods (Linneaus for example is L.). So I've reverted your changes to Bananaquit and Aceratorchis. Thanks, —innotata 04:02, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

By the way, external links are supposed to be dynamic, so they shouldn't have access dates or any other citation formatting (WP:External links); dates should be given in standard formats like "9 November 2009" or "2009-11-09" (MOS:DATE). —innotata 04:07, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

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American film version + Family Tree (part of)

Regarding your posting earlier this afternoon, please see my comment on the same Talk page. I agree with you entirely... do it! Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:09, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

As you haven't done it, I have just done it.

Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:54, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

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                               Birger (Henrik's grandfather)

    Johan (Henrik's Uncle)               Fredrik = Ulrika (Henrik's parents)
    b.1884                               b.1886

 Sofia  Marit  Ingrid             Richard   Harald   Gregor   Gustav   Henrik Vanger
                                   b.1907      b.1911   b.1912   b.1918      b.1920

                          Gottfried = Isabella Keonig
                               b.1927       b.1928

                            Martin       Harriet                                 
                                b.1948             b.1950

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Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:30, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Further to my un-doing of your edit earlier today...please see above. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:12, 30 November 2011 (UTC). Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:24, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi Trappist,

I followed your idea and removed the ever-increasing section on the 2011 American re=make on November 29... see above... and included it in the "See also".

Just wanted to ask you for your input on whether or not you consider the American film a re-make, and to refer you to the article entitled: List of English-language films based on foreign-language films and the relevant talk page, also the talk page of the 2011 film.

All the best.

Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:46, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for responding so quickly. I appreciate it, even though I am surprised that you do not support my view that the American version should be included in the above, all too brief article. Especially as it opens with a plea for more content. I believe the film qualifies, but no doubt I am not alone so I'll wait patiently.

Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:21, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

All has been satisfactorily resolved. Your assistance is much appreciated. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:27, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Agnus Dei (Barber)

Perhaps we need to clarify what we talk about rather than short edit summaries. A title should appear just italic, I agree, but a term which is a redirect should appear bold, for the person who comes by the redirect to see a reference. Look at Liebfrauenkirche, Halle, for example, with several redirects bolded. Agnus Dei (Barber) is a redirect, therefore Agnus Dei should appear bold on top of italic for being a title, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:57, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

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America's Cup flags/Ensigns

Moved to Talk:America's Cup

I noticed you changed the Irish flag icon templates on the America's Cup article. I agree they were previously incorrect, but using the flag of Ireland for Ulster (Northern Ireland) is a contentious issue. Since 1801, the UK has used the Union Jack as its national flag—see Flag of the United Kingdom. It would also probably make sense to use the Union Jack in place of the Scotland and England flags as well. On the individual Yacht pages, {{flag|United Kingdom|civil}} might be more appropriate. See the File:Deck of the cutter Galatea-1.jpg—it appears that Galatea is flying that ensign. Thoughts? Mojoworker (talk) 07:51, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

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Citation style

Please refrain from making undiscussed changes of citation style, which is against WP:CITEVAR. Thank you. Johnbod (talk) 20:29, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Anchor

Moved to Talk:Major-General's Song

Just wondering: What does the "anchor" that you added to the Benford book ref do? -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:29, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Short Pages

Please do not revert the placement of the Long Comment on short pages. The purpose of the comment is to move pages down off of the Short Pages reports. The reports show pages that may need attention to reach at least a minimum standard of quality as a valid stub or disambiguation. But if pages that meet that standard are left at that short length, they flood out the report, making it useless. So the standard solution for many years has been to add this long comment to those pages that do not need the attention of Short Pages patrollers. This bumps them way, way down the list, and leave the head of the report clean. At the moment all pages of length 126 characters or less have been cleared this way. Thus, if anything appears at the head of the report that is 126 character or less, I know that it is either a brand new page, or a page made newly short. And thus those pages are able to get the attention that they need.

I have been slowly pushing back the level of this clear space. The further I push, the more pages I can see and rapidly work on that need attention. I'm currently starting to push down pages of length 127-128. And that's where the page that you reverted me falls.

So it's not that it's being a disambiguation means that it should not be short, but that it's being a disambiguation that is well formatted and needs no immediate attention means that it can be pushed way down the Short Pages reports.

I hope that this makes sense, and that you will not obstruct this effort. - TexasAndroid (talk) 20:49, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Camp Perkins

Hey, thanks for the fix. I was on the page earlier, and came back and was a bit puzzled as to why everything looked so good. Thanks for fixing them up! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 01:54, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Ragdoll

I reverted your edit - see WP:LINKROT - Do not delete factual information solely because the URL to the source does not work any longer. WP:Verifiability does not require that all information be supported by a working link, nor does it require the source to be published online.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 21:23, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Airports are odd

I noticed your edit to Faro/Johnson Lake Water Aerodrome. I've tried to clarify it here as to why the airport was only open during those times. Does that make sense? Airports in general are odd. Although Canada is a metric country we, like the US, give runways in feet while others use metres. Most countries, including major metric ones like France and Germany, give their elevations in feet. Most airports, but not all, give the distance from town in nautical miles but some give it as kilometres (nautical miles). However when nautical miles is abbreviated they always use NM rather than nmi and is actually sourced at Nautical mile#Unit symbol. The NM was added way back in 2008, see Template talk:Convert/Archive August 2008#Nautical miles. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 17:17, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Copyedit

Thank you!

After a few hours of wrestling with brackets and reference tags, I go snowblind and cannot see the written English text any more!

Appreciated.

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infobox for HMS Sirius (1786)

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List of Valencian monarchs

We are working in parallel on this article. Look at the talk page. --DThomsen8 (talk) 23:49, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

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See my talkpage

I've replied to your question there. --Orlady (talk) 15:13, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

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United States lightship Huron (LV-103)‎

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Flag of Japan

Thanks for letting me know about the missing references. What happened is I used references from another article, but forgot to bring them over to the article in the citations. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 05:22, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

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41 for Freedom

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Trappist, I put the names of all the submarines back on the page because I feel that they should be on there! If somebody is doing research or something they can find the link more easily. If you have any questions please feel free to email me. Thank You, tom991. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom991 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

YET ONCE AGAIN 41 FOR FREEDOM

Moved to Talk:41 for Freedom

TRAPPIST, I reverted the edit for a reason. That reason is so that way the names are listed on the page without having to scroll down. Please leave it alone! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom991 (talk • contribs) 00:14, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit window changes

Hey, Trappist. Thanks for the feedback on the edit window changes (and, as a wider point, how we handle deployments). I'm pleased to report we're restoring the edit tools on Thursday, assuming nothing goes catalytically wrong. In the meantime, we've got another set of ideas if you want to chip in :). I'm sorry to say that we haven't included a "beta" version in our plans (quite honestly, it's a very small change, technically speaking: tying it to a preference or whatever would bulk it up) but it's something I'm committed to looking into for more momentous stuff. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:02, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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Redirects

I was amused at your obsessive desire to have Valiant class tugboat deleted and in particular at your claim that "all criteria for deletetion have been met". Have you actually contacted all the people who are causing the title to receive at least five hits per day? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:25, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Amused? Why? And why are you bringing it up nearly a fortnight after the fact? — Trappist the monk (talk) 21:50, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Three attempts to get rid of an harmless redirect seemed so pointless. A fortnight - because you may encounter other redirects in the future and be moved to get rid of them. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:56, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

What are you are thinking? That I'm some sort of ticking time bomb about to go off? That I will irrationally attempt to delete something? That you need to periodically twist the dial and reset my delete-a-random-article-timer? Hogwash.

Every page associated with the Valiant-class tugboats is my creation. When WT:SHIPS made the determination that articles about ship classes could (should) be hyphenated when the class name is an adjectival modifier of a ship-type noun, I took the opportunity to move Valiant-class tugboat to Valiant-class tugboat. The Valiant class is small so I viewed it as a learning experience and I wouldn't be stepping on anyone else's toes.

I changed everything that was Valiant class whatever to Valiant-class whatever. I think that I did everything necessary to make sure that there was nothing linking to the Valiant class redirect created by the move. I asked for speedy deletion of everything that was Valiant class. Some of it in fact, was deleted by you. Whomever it was who chose not to delete the Valiant class tugboat redirect used some reason not listed at CSD G7. I objected to that. If the G7 criteria listing isn't a complete listing of all of the criteria then there is work that needs to be done to fix that. In response to my objection where I listed all of the criteria and showed how they had been met, and in which you have found some amusement, Editor Reaper Eternal deleted Valiant-class tugboat and then promptly created a new version – which move stymied my request because I was no longer the author.

And there it stood until you felt some need to suggest that I have done wrong or that I might somehow concoct a nefarious scheme to go out and do wrong in the future. Shame on you.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:54, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Stars & Stripes (yacht)

Moved to Talk:Stars & Stripes (yacht)

I created this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Morrelli,_Chance_%26_Hubbart_%26_MacLane&redirect=no and if you look into the history you will see the bios that I wrote and researched in great detail. I posted the story on the wetta tri page on facebook well after I wrote it, some discussion regarding merging this data onto the Stars and Stripes page, and I am just now doing it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Morrelli,_Chance_%26_Hubbart_%26_MacLane&action=history

Please refrain from removing it, if you have something to say please use the talk pages. Thank you.

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Bounty (1960 ship)

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Why did you remove the fact that she has two John Deere diesels for propulsion? I have heard it said on the news that she had no propulsion other than her sails and that is plainly wrong, see http://www.tallshipbounty.org/the-ship/statistics.php. The bad information may well have come from the fact that WP:EN had it wrong. . . Jim - Jameslwoodward (talk to me • contribs) 13:26, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Governor Stone (schooner)

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Dolphin class, use of italics for class members in infobox

I attempted to italicise INS Tallin. I had noted that the other entries had also been italicised. Is this stylistically incorrect? Irondome (talk) 19:34, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

I missed that – fixed now. I reverted because this was the first line in the article:

''Italic text''{{other uses|Dolphin class}}

—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:41, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Ah no probs. See you around :) Irondome (talk) 20:14, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikilinks

Moved to Talk:Submarine

Hi Trappist the monk. There are many people who don't know what a noun means and if there is a wikipedia page for the word why should it not have a wikilink to it? If a wikipedia page is published for a certain word then is it not important enough to be linked to and if so why was it published in the first place? Your on views and opinions on what you call common words and don't require linking to may not be shared by the general public who refer to wikipedia for help and information on these very words. Looking forward to your response on this. Thanks --Jonhope123 (talk) 09:31, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

A beer for you!

A Lannister always pays his debts. Thanks for the copyedit and the help. Khazar2 (talk) 04:27, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

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St Peter's

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Re the citations for Banister Fletcher, the book that I used is not the current edition. However, some efficient person has come along and fixed all the original citations by changing them to the most recent edition. I'll will fix it, but it will take a month, as I am about 10,000 miles from my library. The same problem has possibly occurred in other articles. If you find more, can you alert me, please? At present I can't do very much as I'm on a borrowed computer and can only drop by every few days.

With regards to the list of artworks in the narthex, if they are not treated as an embedded list then they must become a number of very short paragraphs. The reason that they are listed and not paragraphed is that the objects: two clocks, two statues, two very different doors and three plaques, all warrant brief description but are not closely related. Because of the vast number and diversity of objects in St Peter's, embedded lists is the best way to go.

Formatting the contents of the three plaques into tables looks ugly in the context of the article. Was the formatting not working efficiently as columns? It looked OK on my screen. (I wasn't the editor who arranged it like that, but I thought that it looked fine.)

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Help a brother out?

Would you be kind enough to look over the History section on USCGC Smilax (WLIC-315)? I put this article up for DYK and have been halted due to close paraphrasing concerns in that section. Thanks for all of your help in copy editing the article. It is my first about a ship. Though their mission is not sexy the black hulled cutters of the Coast Guard do important work, and Smilax as the Queen of the Fleet, seemed notable enough for an article. Cheers. EricSerge (talk) 21:47, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Clothing their nakedness

I don't think I have ever seen problem-solving couched in quite those terms.
Allowing you to return to the serenity of your cloister, Varlaam (talk) 23:06, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

As notable as any other Les Mis Regional Production

I think the posting about the CMTSJ production of Les Mis was as notable as any other regional production. As noted in other previous talk posts regarding Les Mis, the regional production section should either be removed or enhanced to highlight regional productions on a more worldwide basis. I think the CMTSJ production was notable as it has never been produced by a non-equity company on the west coast of the U.S. H0ckeysk8er (talk) 06:51, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

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Your AFD question

I'm sorry in the tardy response to your query about codified new editors and the application of IAR. Yes I would prefer something more to the lines of a policy in the treatment of articles for new editors, if we had those I believe life would be easier for you and me. I would not apply IAR to that situation (I don't like IAR anyways I think it's a cop out) that would be quite disruptive and ultimately not helpful in the grand scheme of things. The one thing I truly don't like though is the idea that because someone is new they get a different set of rules or standards. I believe that they should be held to the same standards as any of us, the one exception is that they are given much more thorough explanation to the why of things. That's the point I was trying and probably failing to make. I think we as editors regardless of who it is has to bend over for consensus even when we don't like it. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 05:05, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Talk:USCGC Fir (WLM-212)

I started a section to discuss the Gallery on USCGC Fir (WLM-212) about the time you reverted to the version of the article I support. I would appreciate if you contributed to that discussion. It seems we are dealing with a new, but well intentioned editor, who may not understand our best practices. Perhaps our discussion will educate the editor and improve their work by introducing them to our best practices. Thanks. EricSerge (talk) 13:06, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you...

		The Editor's Barnstar
		Thank you for your efforts to clean up the article USCGC Fir (WLM-212). Cuprum17 (talk) 15:43, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Autocue error

My apologies for the "reply to Trappist the monk' posting. As explained on the page, I added 'reply' to the edit summary and the rest was filled in from a previous posting. Best wishes. --Kleinzach 00:56, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Infoboxes:

I've archived the debate [1]. Nothing more productive was going to come, and the majority approved the motion that info boxes are not always necessary. Seems a good compromise.  Giano  19:10, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

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ISBN cat

Moved to Module_talk:Citation/CS1#ISBN cat

Regarding the ISBN cat, I chose Category:Articles with invalid ISBNs because it already existed and I figured it wasn't really necessary to create a new Category:Pages with invalid ISBNs for this. Do you disagree? Obviously it doesn't fit in with the current naming structure, but we're going to be reworking that anyway. Dragons flight (talk) 16:15, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Talkback help desk re 'Changing the citation style in an article'

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Anchor

You may be interested in Template talk:Anchor#Positioning. --  Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 21:02, 21 April 2013 (UTC)