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Speedy deletion nomination of Usuário:Tuvalkin/BSicon[edit]

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Yes, you're absolutely right. I'll do asap. ChrisDHDR 11:19, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


Hi Tuvalkin,

The icons you requested on my commons page have been placed in the Category:Icons_for_railway_descriptions/parallel_railways/crossing on commons. On top of that I made a lot more and in the process of restructuring the whole parallel railways category. Wiebevl (talk) 21:35, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


Hi Tuvalkin,

In noticed you nominated the above mentioned icon for deletion since it's a duplicate, I reverted that. I'll try to explain what I'm up to in renaming all those parallel railway icons into what hopefully will be a more consistent way:

All Icons with a 'symmetrical' subject like bridges (either highway, normal or waterway), borders, tunnels but excluding icons for crossings with other railway lines and stations I'd like to propose we stick to the following naming convention:

  • v prefix, both lines in use: BSicon vAKRZu.svg, BSicon vBRÜCKE.svg, BSicon vWTUNNEL.svg
  • ev prefix, left line disused, right line in use: BSicon evAKRZu.svg, BSicon evBRÜCKE.svg, BSicon evWTUNNEL.svg
  • xv prefix, left line in use, right line disused: BSicon xvAKRZu.svg, BSicon xvBRÜCKE.svg, BSicon xvWTUNNEL.svg
  • exv prefix, both lines disused: BSicon exvAKRZu.svg, BSicon exvBRÜCKE.svg, BSicon exvWTUNNEL.svg

For crossings this doesn't work out since the prefix will be de denominator for the crossing line:

  • v: BSicon vKRZu.svg
  • ev: BSicon evKRZu.svg
  • xv: BSicon xvKRZu.svg
  • exv: BSicon exvKRZu.svg

For 'symmetrical' stations is works like crossings, where the prefix stands before the v and nominates the whole station :

  • v: BSicon vBHF.svg
  • ev: BSicon evBHF.svg
  • exv: BSicon exvBHF.svg

For 'non-symmertical' stations I propose that we put e or x after the v prefix so it's clear whether it denominates the right or left track:

  • BSicon vSTR-BHF.svg (vSTR-BHF)
  • BSicon vSTR-eBHF.svg (vSTR-eBHF)
  • BSicon vSTR-exBHF.svg (vSTR-exBHF)
  • BSicon vBHF-STR.svg (vBHF-STR)

These four icons were already named that way, therefore 20px (evBHF-STR) should be renamed veBHF-STR. I know evBHF-STR stands for the same thing, a closed station on the left one of two used tracks, but in combinations of used and disused tracks it won't work. For instance 20px (xvHST-STR), which should be vexHST-STR, because the x prefix before the v suggest both track are closed.

I'm open for debate :-). Wiebevl (talk) 11:28, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind reply :-) Wiebevl (talk) 00:28, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Replaced BSicon-files[edit]

A table of replaced Icon-IDs is available at commons:Table of replaced BSicon-files. Antonsusi (talk) 08:30, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I am just trying to sort out a couple of naming issues. The UK waterway project seems to have got the green tunnel prefixes the wrong way round. They should be gt, rather than tg. I have created new icons, replaced all occurrences in templates on English wikipedia, fixed the legend on Welsh wikipedia and Japanese wikipedia (scary), and have just got to fix the Russian one, but somehow they are using templates from one of my user pages, so that is a bit more tricky. However, you have copies of utgSTR, utgAKRZu2, utgAROADu and utgKRZuy on your icon page. Would you mind changing them to ugtSTR, ugtAKRZu2, ugtAROADu and ugtKRZuy, so that I can tidy up Commons, please? Bob1960evens (talk) 22:39, 23 December 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for the fix on Template:Holmfirth Branch Line--Harkey (talk) 10:11, 12 September 2011 (UTC)


You are welcome! I'm working on a project (which can be viewed on my user page) in which the complexity requires new icons that haven't been created yet. I usually end up taking an existing icon and modify the color scheme to match what I'm looking for. Once this project is complete, I may decide to, in my free time, try to do this for lots of icons that need creation. I just need someone to show me the proper way and it looks like you gave me the right direction to go in! »(moved to commons:Talk:BSicon/Renaming#2 misnamed corners)« Thanks for your help! BT14 (talk) 15:59, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Not sure what happened with x20px (vÜWc4) and x20px (vÜWc2) but as you can see, a reference to vÜWc2 shows the old icon but if you click on it to go to the file page, it shows the correct updated icon. Not sure how to fix this, any ideas? BT14 (talk) 21:09, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello again! I'm finally nearing completion of the map I was working on (took a while to have certain things programmed and to figure out how to do it), but now that it's winding down, i wanted to know if there were icons that were in high demand so i can start work on them. Let me know! BT14 (talk) 03:00, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Wrong transcription - WP:IPA for Portuguese[edit]

I don't try to teach you Portuguese or anything darling. Please, check carefully WP:IPA for Portuguese, lenition of /b d g/ only occurs after a continuant (i.e. in intervocalic position), not in word initial position. Dedo is pronounced deðu], not *[ˈðeðu] ([d] in initial position and after nasal vowels, and [ð] generally in intervocalic position). Jɑυмe (xarrades) 01:49, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Parece que sabes tanto de Fonologia portuguesa como de Lógica formal. Dizes que não estás a tentar ensinar-me português e na frase seguinte estás a fazer isso mesmo. Pois, eu também posso consultar WP:IPA for Malagasy e pôr-me a fazer habilidades no artigo sobre Madagáscar, mas deixo isso para quem sabe mesmo do assunto. O que claramente não é o teu caso.
Se queres realmente saber, pergunta a um falante que diga a palavra "Douro", ou "dedo", isolada, e vais ver que é sempre o [ð] que é articulado (e, m.m., o [β], e o [ɣ]).
… Hm, isso seria WP:OR, pois é. Olha, leva lá a bicicleta. Tuvalkin (talk) 02:04, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

(editing conflict here)

Source: In northern and central Portugal, /b/, /d/, and /ɡ/ are lenited to fricatives of the same place of articulation ([β], [ð], and [ɣ], respectively) in all places except after a pause, or a nasal vowel, in which contexts they are stops [b, d, ɡ], not dissimilar from English b, d, g (Mateus & d'Andrade 2000:11).
Sim, eu sei ler. Mas vai lá ver ao Mateus & Andrade o que é que accontece em início de palavra; procura por "prosódia", que te faz bem. (E não é "d’Andrade", xiça, o "de" não entra na alfabetização, que isto não é o Texas!) Tuvalkin (talk) 02:04, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Para completar o ramalhete de disparates veja-se como o cromo limpa a página de discussão dele de coisas menos chiques: [1]:

Acerca disto: Estás efetivamente a tentar ensinar-me a pronunciar português, pá? Tem juízo! Tuvalkin (talk) 22:43, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Tuvalkin (talk) 02:10, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

SKRZ-G2o (SKRZ-G2o)[edit]

Given that (so far) there is only one SKRZ-G icon, it may be somewhat confusing to have the double row of icon roots in the catalog table. Thoughts? Useddenim (talk) 21:41, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

One of the 1st of many, and this renaming had to be done. I was my fault from day one, using the same icon root ID for both roads and for roads crossing rail, arriving to inconsistencies as discussed here. The reaniming proposal was along for a long time now, and I felt it was about time to go ahead — starting with the names that already had conflicted, with "filename" used for the wrong icon and "filename(!)" used fot the right one.
What do you propose instead? Wait till there's more of the newly named icons? The problem is that some of the “old” names (those which has the "(!)" thingy) will be showing completely different icons; no redirect can help here. The user will have to know that a renaming is underway.
Tuvalkin (talk) 00:11, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, I have no better suggestion, other than "make sure that it gets done as quickly as possible" to reduce any confusion. Good luck. Useddenim (talk) 11:33, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, I’m suggesting that to myself, too! :-\ Tuvalkin (talk) 13:00, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Template:Gawler Central railway line[edit]

You wouldn't like to have a go at fixing the icon on the row "To Melbourne" (between 0.8km and 2.5km), would you? I had several tries, and what's there is the best I could come up with, but it's still "not quite right".

And if you are in the mood ...

  • the pale red link "joining" the red to the blue shouldn't be there. (Between 4.9km and 6.0km)
  • (Between 10.6km and 14.3km) The Depot is there now & functional - I doubt the "former Northfield line" has anything to do with it. It doesn't go anywhere other than back to the red track. (Somewhat like the Pacific National Freight Terminal between 6.6 & 7.7km) Also in that section, the Port Wakefield Road bridge is purely a road bridge (for a highway) - like the Grand Junction Road bridge - which, btw, is also dual carriageway.).
  • At "To Port Adelaide" (8.7-10.6), the blue arrow should be red.

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:33, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

I’ll have a look, thanks. Tuvalkin (talk) 14:59, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done Tuvalkin (talk) 17:05, 13 June 2012 (UTC)


You may not have noticed, but the lists are alphabetical. Serendipodous 18:29, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

{{RP-anleitungNeu}} & {{RP-anleitungGabel}}[edit]

I suggest renaming these two templates to {{RP-anleitungN}} and {{RP-anleitungG}} to save space and for consistency with the BS-anleitung templates. Useddenim (talk) 20:50, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Those two are provisional. I plan to make one single RP-anleitung template that covers all situations, as soon as the nomenclature stabilizes. Tuvalkin (talk) 02:37, 2 August 2012 (UTC)


Please see this and this. Thanks. Useddenim (talk) 22:28, 31 August 2012

More BSicons[edit]

Hi Tuvalkin, I'm User:京市
I've noticed you work with rail icon so i've made some: 52px 22px 22px 52px 52px 52px 32px I'd like to help with BSicons

--Music ClefG+1.svgMusic 16g1.svgMusic 16a1.svgMusic 16b1-.svgMusic 16d2.svgMusic 16e2-.svgMusic 16d2.svg 20:16, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello! Better bring that matter to the central discussion point at commons:Talk:BSicon. However, one thing I can tell you right now: These need to be SVG files, not PNGs, and lay within virtual frame at 500px height (normally ×500, sometimes ×250, seldom ×1000 or ×125). Tuvalkin (talk) 23:33, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
But how do i do that --Music ClefG+1.svgMusic 16g1.svgMusic 16a1.svgMusic 16b1-.svgMusic 16d2.svgMusic 16e2-.svgMusic 16d2.svg 00:00, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
How do you create SVGs? Well, I’m sure you can find a basic primer easily enough. Cannot help you there, though, as I learn it all by myself. Tuvalkin (talk) 01:49, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

All I use is Microsoft Office--Music ClefG+1.svgMusic 16g1.svgMusic 16a1.svgMusic 16b1-.svgMusic 16d2.svgMusic 16e2-.svgMusic 16d2.svg 17:38, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Not a problem. svg files are just text; make sure that you save them in text format, but with the .svg extension. Useddenim (talk) 00:54, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

BSicon move[edit]

No problem with this in my sandbox, but could you take a look at [2]? -DePiep (talk) 22:21, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry. I usually don't forget to fix usage after renaming. It is strange that the redirets are not working, though. Tuvalkin (talk) 22:28, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Please check again. If Redirects are like in the English WP, there is this: the old file name is red. -DePiep (talk) 21:13, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
It's not an enwp thing, redirects on Commons appear to be showing up as red on all projects that aren't Commons lately. So, if you move a BSicon with usage, please list it on the by hand page for processing by those that understand the things... which are not me! Courcelles 03:04, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
I do something better: I do the manual replacing myself, ASAP after renaming, making sure that the missing icon is not shown for more than half an hour, tops. It is not great, but it is the best I can do. Tuvalkin (talk) 05:11, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

new icon[edit]

I mamage to make an SVGx20px (utBHFe 029B52) 100px — Preceding unsigned comment added by 京市 (talkcontribs) 02:28, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

and 2 more: x20px (CPICla 339999) x20px (CPICla FFD702)Music ClefG+1.svgMusic 16g1.svgMusic 16a1.svgMusic 16b1-.svgMusic 16d2.svgMusic 16e2-.svgMusic 16d2.svg 03:10, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

These are not proper SVGs, as the data inside them is raster. There’s too much of this sillyness going around: Go learn basic SVG (which I did in a few weeks by myself — it is really simple) and don’t bother me with it anymore please: Anything you may need to discuss, please do it in/under the commons:Talk:BSicon page. Also: Your signature contains an absurd number of {{#if: statements, needlessly burdening the servers. Tuvalkin (talk) 04:43, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Re: Berlin U-Bahn colours[edit]

Copied and followed up in commons:Talk:BSicon/Colors#Berlin and commons:Talk:BSicon/Colors#Berlin U-bahn

Help required[edit]

Hello, Useddenim suggested I get in contact with you in regards to some route map issues I'm having. I know what I want with this route map, I just don't know how to make it happen. I've left posts on Useddenim's talk page and a detailed request for help on the Template talk page. Any help you can offer would be much appreciated. kind regards, Wiki ian 08:52, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello there! Nice diagramming you have there, too! I cannot give you much help apart from this:
  • Any icon you need done, ask me, or better (faster) yet at commons:Talk:BSicon/New icons and icon requests.
  • If you make your own new icons based on existing ones, the nae name should be locally derivable — however if you’re not sure, run it thro other’s opinion with a post at commons:Talk:BSicon/Renaming; if you’re really unsure add an "(!)" in the filename.
  • There’s a very hand reportoire starting at Wikipedia:Route diagram template/Catalog of pictograms — there you can see what’s missing, and deduce the expected names for those.
  • Also, for road×rail and road-only icons (of the grey/white generic pattern you’ve been using) there’s these two pages listing them all and you can check the expected names for the missing by hovering the red dashes.
Let me know if you need anything else about BSicons. Tuvalkin (talk) 20:41, 17 March 2013 (UTC)



Vi que editaste a pagina:

Es da madeira? O que eu sei e que Malasada é 100% um produto dos aç madeira vcs comem é algo bastante diferente chamado bolo do caco que e um pouco doce mas nada nada nada a ver

Diz me se estou errado. Obrigado — Preceding unsigned comment added by S12almeida (talkcontribs) 02:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Não sou da Madeira. Tuvalkin (talk) 12:46, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Where did we contact?[edit]

About a month ago, you wrote I was disturbed by a 'cockroach in my soup' -- as I recall. I remember writing & readig, but I cannot find the page or edit any more. Please help me out. I can say now, this says a lot wrt RDT topic clarity. -DePiep (talk) 00:15, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

I’m almost sure I didn’t use that phrase; I’m afraid you must be mixing me for someone else. Tuvalkin (talk) 17:42, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Multiple connecting services[edit]

Is there a way to show more than one connecting service at a station, such as at New York Penn Station where there are airport connections, high speed rail connections, bus connections, subway connections, commuter rail connections, etc? Ben (talk) 15:21, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Do you mean different colors, like here? Tuvalkin (talk) 16:23, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

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Indian Railway templates[edit]

Thanks for your edits improving the railway templates. Cheers. - Chandan Guha (talk) 04:33, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Next time[edit]

Hi. Next time, why don't you come forward facing? Diffs and quotes. -DePiep (talk) 01:29, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Hey, troll, at least try to keep up. If you’re reacting to something that I wrote about you in Commons, go whine in my talk page there. Boo! Tuvalkin (talk) 11:27, 18 July 2014 (UTC)