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Did you know? nommination[edit]

Hi. I've nominated Sneath Glass Company, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created/expanded on November 9, where you can improve it if you see fit. Thanks, Parthian Scribe 18:11, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


Hi, do you have a source for the line At one time, Sneath Glass produced almost 90 percent of the glassware used in consumer refrigerators in the United States.? If you could cite that line, that would be great. Parthian Scribe 16:55, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I went ahead and added the source to the article, and updated the Did you Know request. --Parthian Scribe 01:55, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Sneath Glass Company[edit]

Updated DYK query On 17 November, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sneath Glass Company, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Cirt (talk) 19:01, 17 November 2008 (UTC)


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For creating some most excellent articles related to Blackford County, I award you the Indiana barnstar! Cheers! —Charles Edward (Talk | Contribs) 13:45, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

By the way, you are welcome to put {{WikiProject Indiana}} onto the discussion page of Indiana related articles. That will mark it for our project, help others to help you build on it, and to keep it categorized. If you are interested in collaboration, our project is always open to new participants. :) —Charles Edward (Talk | Contribs) 13:51, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Hartford City historic sites[edit]

I just encountered some of your work on First Presbyterian Church in Hartford City, as well as the content currently in your sandbox. Looks great; you've been able to find tons of sources that I can't get. Are you planning to finish the historic district article? Nyttend (talk) 01:26, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good. I knew already that the Blackford County Courthouse was on the Register — except for First Presbyterian, all of the photos at National Register of Historic Places listings in Blackford County, Indiana are mine. As far as your style, I only have one major suggestion: use more citations. The current edition of your sandbox has a lot of unsourced text, which is never good. Other than that, I have no real suggestions; just remember that the "grade" is subjective, largely because different people grade differently, so it's not to be taken too hard if you don't get what you want. Compare two articles that I've written: Southworth House (Cleveland, Ohio) and St. John the Baptist Catholic Church (Maria Stein, Ohio) — they're about equally comprehensive, and the St. John's Church article is actually somewhat longer, but the house has been rated a Good Article, while the church is "C". I asked the reviewer about the church and was told that a weak part of the article was its lack of interior pictures, while I never heard anything negative about the lack of interior pictures for the house. Nyttend (talk) 20:55, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
By the way, have you found the National Register nomination form for the courthouse in Hartford City? It's online, if you want it. Nyttend (talk) 18:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for offering to let me do it, but no thank you; I've begun grad school at IU, so my writing right now is either Ohio topics that I didn't get before or Bloomington-area topics that I've recentyl visited. Nyttend (talk) 18:00, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi TwoScars -- I also noticed your nice work in the List of properties (Hartford City Courthouse Square Historic District) article. I ask at Talk:List of properties (Hartford City Courthouse Square Historic District) whether the article could be moved/renamed, to become the needed article about the historic district. Could you comment there? Keep up the good work! --doncram (talk) 12:24, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

By the way, if you're planning on writing about the library in Montpelier, the National Register nomination form is online; it can't be beaten as a resource. Nyttend (talk) 03:14, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Sounds good. I'm impressed about how much work you've put into the district article; I'm thinking of modelling my work after what you've written. Down here in Bloomington, I'm gradually working on some district articles, and like you I've had to face the issue of discrepancies between the local Interim Report and the National Register data. The Indiana Landmarks document appears to list only the contributing properties for the locally-designated districts, without paying a ton of attention to the federal designation; for example, a west-side district that I just finished photographing has 25 buildings and a few structures on the list of contributing properties, but only the buildings are listed in the Interim Report. I'm very surprised by the C-class rating that the article's been given; it's sufficiently complete and written well enough that I'm going to nominate it for Good Article status. Nyttend (talk) 19:29, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Hartford City Courthouse Square Historic District[edit]

Orlady (talk) 06:10, 11 November 2010 (UTC)


It took me awhile to find my previous comment. I see you have worked with User:Nyttend and User:Doncram - they are among the best editors at WT:NRHP - so I'll suggest asking them or asking general questions at at WT:NRHP. But 2 things seem clear - 1) you are doing very well on these articles, and 2) you're a bit new around here (everybody was once). The name "List of Properties at (Hartford City ..." obviously needs to be changed - get the ( ) out of there. As far as getting pix of Indiana from Maryland? Maybe get a real powerful telephoto lens?! No, probably wouldn't work. Maybe contact somebody in Hartford or indiana (maybe nyttend?) Applying for a featured list? Start at WP:Featured lists and follow the links. I noticed Nyttend applied for a good article for the text article - so he's thinking in the same direction (a very good sign). let me know if I can help, but I won't be in Indiana for at least 6 months (if ever!). Smallbones (talk) 02:26, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Name change[edit]

Nice job with Hartford City Courthouse Square Historic District! I do agree that a "List of properties in Hartford City Courthouse Square Historic District" would be better than the current title involving parentheses, for the page now at List of properties (Hartford City Courthouse Square Historic District).

You can move almost any wikipedia page easily just by selecting move from pull-down menu option above. On my screen right now i see tabs for "Read", "Edit", "New section", "View history", star, and down-arrow. The move option is within the down-arrow submenu. There's more info about moving pages at wp:MOVE.

There would be no controversy about your making that move yourself. There are some moves which you can't do on your own, if a page has been moved before, which require an administrator's help. If there would likely be controversy, or if you try a move and find it can't be done because of previous moves, you can propose a move using the wp:RM request move system, which will cause a discussion leading to a consensus decision and implementation of any agreed-upon move by an administrator. But here again you can just do it yourself. Smallbones could also, but is being polite to suggest the move and leave it for you to implement. Hope this helps! I'll now "watchlist" those pages, but please do feel free to follow up at my Talk page about this or anything else. --doncram (talk) 17:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Hartford City Courthouse Square HD for Good Article[edit]

Someone has reviewed my Good Article nomination of your article; other than the lack of alt text, which I can add easily, s/he says that the only problematic part of the article is the lead image. Am I correct in guessing that you scanned this from your copy of the Blackford County Interim Report? Judging by the information you've provided and by my experience with the Bloomington Interim Report, I suspect that you're correct in claiming that it's in the public domain. Copies of the Blackford County report are at the Monroe County Public Library and at IU's main library, where I'll be tomorrow, so I plan to check them then; however, if you get a chance, a comment that either confirms or corrects my suspicions would be helpful. You can leave comments at my talk page, or at the reviewer's talk page, or at my talk page. Thanks again for the good work! Nyttend (talk) 05:37, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Because I couldn't find the image in the Interim Report, I've had to nominate it for deletion. I do this reluctantly — given the date, it's likely to be in the public domain, and it's definitely a useful image. The problem with the image is that the source is unclear: you didn't specify the source of the printed image that you scanned. Could you please go to the deletion nomination and/or the image description and clarify the source? It's a great image, and I'd really rather not see it get deleted. Nyttend (talk) 16:33, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for clarification! The sooner you can get it resolved the better, but it's definitely not pressing — deletion requests at Commons, even for copyright issues, can take months to close. For alt text, read WP:ALT: I don't really see why it's considered necessary for any purpose, but featured articles require it. Don't worry: I'll add it; you don't have to. As you might have seen above your comment, DustFormsWords has realised that it's not necessary for an article to pass the Good Article criteria, so s/he has passed it. Congratulations on your first Good Article! Nyttend (talk) 02:03, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
People who work with Good Articles typically mention that on their userpage, so I've taken the liberty of adding {{User Good Article}} to the right side of yours. Feel free to remove it if you don't like it there. Nyttend (talk) 02:07, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the situation is tricky. Did the photographer's family donate only the printed photographs and the physical negatives, or did they donate the copyright as well? Unless they unambiguously donated the copyright as well, the historical society doesn't own the image itself, and if they don't own it, they can't release it into the public domain or permit people to use it under any license that Wikipedia considers free. Of course, if the copyright were also donated, they can do whatever they want with it. If you find that they own the copyright as well as the physical image, and if they're willing to release it into the public domain or under a Wikipedia-acceptable license, simply ask them to say in an email "We release it into the public domain" or "We release it under the _____ license" and to send you that email. When you receive the email, forward it to and place the template {{OTRS pending}} on the image description page; it will be archived in the OTRS system, and there will be absolutely no good reason for deletion. Nyttend (talk) 05:09, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
As far as the Interim Reports — no, sadly, they're copyrighted. Unlike Minnesota and Florida, Indiana doesn't release everything that it creates into the public domain. As well, many of the images in the Interim Reports are created and owned by individuals, not by the state. Some images are public domain (e.g. the Monroe County report has some images from the 1860s), but you must be careful to ensure that the images were published before 1923 or that they have entered the public domain for some other reason. See Public domain in the United States, and if you have questions about details, please ask them at WP:MCQ. I'm always happy to try to help, but Congress has so messed up things by forcing us to go with the rest of the world's copyright laws that I find it very confusing and thus am really unlikely to be able to answer many questions. Nyttend (talk) 05:22, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

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Blackford County[edit]

Greetings! I've noticed the excellent work you've done lately on the Blackford County, Indiana article; Indiana county articles are of interest to me, and I've made a few edits to that article this evening, including an updated/rewritten "Government" section (based on one I've used successfully elsewhere). However, you're clearly working on big improvements to the article and I don't want to step on your toes or get in the way of what you're doing, so I just wanted to let you know what I was doing. Regarding the county map -- the original version was from 2008, but my mapping system is better now, so I've uploaded a new version of this county's map based on 2010 census data. Keep up the good work. Omnedon (talk) 04:25, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Blackford County[edit]

Hey, just wanted to say that your work on Blackford County, Indiana is looking great. Nice job! Omnedon (talk) 03:34, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

September 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States[edit]

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Stoplight removal[edit]

Glad to help. Removing the stoplight on the left was relatively easy. I didn't touch the other two, which are less intrusive and look much more difficult to alter without leaving visible traces. To get rid of those, I would probably re-shoot (if I lived in central Indiana). Even then, it might be difficult because of the way objects are juxtapositioned in real life. Finetooth (talk) 19:13, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

If I were the main contributor, I'd probably drop McKee unless I could find something more certain about the prom claim. His 40 years of residency, the Kiwanis office, and his relationship to Overhead Door don't seem notable enough to include him, in my opinion. Finetooth (talk) 15:44, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


I took the liberty of adding "|30em" to the "Notes" template instructions in your sandbox 2. This allows individual readers using different browsers to see the Notes displayed in the readers' preferred formats. I use Firefox, and the Notes now appear on my screen in a two-column format, whereas someone using the Microsoft browser will still see the notes in a one-column format. The layout in sandbox 2 looks pretty good, not cluttered except for File:Blackford County Indiana diagram V2.jpg. It overlaps section boundaries and displaces edit buttons. I'd just move it up higher or lower in the Geography section to avoid this. My rule of thumb for the correct number of images in an article is to aim for one image per section; this generally gets me close to what I think looks best, not too empty and not too full. I often change my mind about image selection and placement as I add text. It's hard to write the final lead or to decide on the final layout until the article is pretty well finished. Image sizing involves another set of choices. Maps should be big enough to read but not overwhelming; most other images can just be set to "thumb" rather than a specific size. The "upright" parameter is often helpful in sizing vertical images. (See WP:MOSIM.) I generally set the lead image in the infobox to 300px. To some extent all of these image choices are up to the main contributor; there might always be special reasons for a particular choice. Finetooth (talk) 16:41, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Requested list of links for Blackford article - see FA talk[edit]

Hello Twoscars, following the list of links, that could use checking. Important: the list is generated by an automatic script, so not all entries may be meaningful, or you have a special reason to duplicate a link (which is OK, if it is needed to help the reader). The list is just meant as a general checklist with suggestions to look into, not as a fix errorlist. It is rather long, so posting here to avoid spamming the FA talk itself.

Lead link not in main text (see WP:LEAD, the lead should provide a complete article summary, all information (and most links) should be available in the article's main body aswell)

  • "U.S. state": 1 (Lead: 1)
  • "Indiana": 1 (Lead: 1)
  • "county (United States)": 1 (Lead: 1)
  • "Isaac Blackford": 1 (Lead: 1)
  • "Speaker (politics)": 1 (Lead: 1)
  • "Indiana General Assembly": 1 (Lead: 1)
  • "List of Indiana Supreme Court Justices": 1 (Lead: 1)
  • "Indiana Supreme Court": 1 (Lead: 1)
  • "town": 1 (Lead: 1)
  • "ghost town": 1 (Lead: 1)
  • "Interstate Highway System": 1 (Lead: 1)
  • "List of State Roads in Indiana": 1 (Lead: 1)
  • "Miami people": 1 (Lead: 1)
  • "Rail transport": 1 (Lead: 1)
  • "Petroleum": 1 (Lead: 1)
  • "economic boom": 1 (Lead: 1)
  • "Indiana Gas Boom": 1 (Lead: 1)
  • "National Register of Historic Places listings in Blackford County, Indiana": 1 (Lead: 1)
  • "Hartford City Courthouse Square Historic District": 1 (Lead: 1)

Multiple identical links in main text (see WP:OVERLINK, links should normally only appear once (or max. twice) in the main article body)

  • "Delaware County, Indiana": 3 (Lead: 0)
  • "Grant County, Indiana": 3 (Lead: 0)
  • "Renner, Indiana": 3 (Lead: 0)
  • "Converse, Blackford County, Indiana": 3 (Lead: 0)
  • "Norfolk Southern Railway": 3 (Lead: 0)
  • "Marion, Indiana": 3 (Lead: 0)

Duplicate identical links in main text (see WP:OVERLINK, links should normally only appear once in the main article body; in long articles a second link in some distance may be needed)

  • "Maize": 3 (Lead: 1)
  • "soybean": 3 (Lead: 1)
  • "Wells County, Indiana": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Jay County, Indiana": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Licking Township, Blackford County, Indiana": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Harrison Township, Blackford County, Indiana": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Washington Township, Blackford County, Indiana": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Jackson Township, Blackford County, Indiana": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Montpelier, Indiana": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Dunkirk, Indiana": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Shamrock Lakes, Indiana": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Roll, Indiana": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Indiana State Road 18": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Matamoras, Indiana": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Mollie, Indiana": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Indiana State Road 3": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Trenton, Indiana": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Indiana State Road 26": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Millgrove, Indiana": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Indiana State Road 167": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Muncie, Indiana": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Garage door opener#The electric opener": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "3M": 2 (Lead: 0)
  • "Agriculture": 2 (Lead: 0)

If you have questions, i'll be glad to help. Regards. GermanJoe (talk) 09:11, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Blackford County image map[edit]

I've never made an image map or used the image map template. The two images at the Commons look fine; the newer one has supplanted the original. When I just link to the commons image in the way I normally do, without the image map template, everything seems to work OK; like this: File:Blackford County Indiana diagram V2.jpg. This links to the new version. I think the problem must have something to do with the way the image map template works. Not sure. Finetooth (talk) 02:40, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Peer review limits changed[edit]

This is a notice to all users who currently have at least one open peer review at Wikipedia:Peer review. Because of the large number of peer review requests and relatively low number of reviewers, the backlog of PRs has been at 20 or more almost continually for several months. The backlog is for PR requests which have gone at least four days without comments, and some of these have gone two weeks or longer waiting for a review.

While we have been able to eventually review all PRs that remain on the backlog, something had to change. As a result of the discussion here, the consensus was that all users are now limited to one (1) open peer review request.

If you already have more than one open PR, that is OK in this transition period, but you cannot open any more until all your active PR requests have been closed. If you would like someone to close a PR for you, please ask at Wikipedia talk:Peer review. If you want to help with the backlog, please review an article whoe PR request is listed at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog/items. Thanks, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 02:35, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Map from 1876 atlas[edit]

Greetings! Just wanted to let you know that I have been capturing some maps from an 1876 Indiana atlas, and saw the Blackford County map. It is now available at Commons. It's also a geographic overlay, so it can be shown in Google Earth. Omnedon (talk) 12:23, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Godfroy Reserve[edit]


I threw together this little article Godfroy Reserve before I saw that you had written about it in Blackford County, Indiana. Perhaps you'd be interested in making more of it - it's rather pathetic right now, but you seem to have a good grasp of the material. (I know nothing about Indiana, so reading your article is quite interesting - I had no idea the population was declining so.) Regards, MathewTownsend (talk) 22:32, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

GA for Blackford County, Indiana[edit]


I passed the article, as it is excellent. There is one question on the Talk:Blackford County, Indiana/GA1 regarding the Fair use rationale for the portrait. (You probably know what is right better than I do.)

A wonderful article. I feel I really have a feel for Blackford County.

Best wishes, MathewTownsend (talk) 23:55, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations on Good Article status! You've put in a lot of work, and this is well-deserved. Omnedon (talk) 01:33, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Hartford City CH Square HD[edit]

Level-three vandalism warning given. If you find this IP returning, leave a {{uw-vand4}} template on the talk page, and if vandalism continue after that, please report it at WP:AIV. I'm not telling you to leave me alone — I'm happy to help, but WP:AIV is watched 24-7 by administrators, unlike my talk page. Nyttend (talk) 21:59, 24 May 2013 (UTC)


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Your GA nomination of Hartford City Glass Company[edit]

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A barnstar and a challenge[edit]

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For your contributions to bring Hartford City Glass Company to Good Article status. Thanks, and keep up the good work! -- Khazar2 (talk) 17:10, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
You did some great writing and research on this one--have you thought about using it as a jumping-off point to go after a bigger fish, like the Indiana or glass main articles? We need somebody to take those on, and you seem well-suited to the task; either would get you into the Million Award Hall of Fame, it looks like. But whatever you go after in the future, thanks again for your contributions! -- Khazar2 (talk) 17:10, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for reviewing a long article, and thanks for the compliment. I have an article about Hobbs, Brockunier & Company about 90 percent completed. This was one of America's most important glass factories of the 19th century, and produced numerous leaders of the industry such as Michael J. Owens. TwoScars (talk) 13:31, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Cool--good luck with it! -- Khazar2 (talk) 22:42, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hartford City Glass Company[edit]

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J. H. Hobbs, Brockunier and Company[edit]

TwoScars, I just finished reading your rather interesting and comprehensive article for the J. H. Hobbs, Brockunier and Company in Wheeling, West Virginia, and I was curious whether you intended to nominate this article for Did you know? This would definitely be a popular article with readers visiting the Main Page! Great job! -- Caponer (talk) 04:10, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

TwoScars, I've nominated your article for DYK here. Please let me know if you have any suggested alternatives for the image or hook. I hastily put this together so it would meet DYK's newness criteria! Thank you for all your extraordinary additions to Wikipedia! -- Caponer (talk) 03:30, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK for J. H. Hobbs, Brockunier and Company[edit]

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A page you started (Lake James (Indiana)) has been reviewed![edit]

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Lake James (Indiana)[edit]

Glad to help. I like the article, and I do have some ideas, which I plan to post at WP:PR over the next few days. My best. Finetooth (talk) 02:12, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

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Congrats on the promotion of Lake James (Indiana) to GA. Really nice job. Finetooth (talk) 18:34, 14 August 2014 (UTC)