User talk:Ubcule

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Why would you say that Pepsi Vanilla would be discontinued? Only products that don't sell enough are discontinued. Please respond. Bob-- (talk) 05:26, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't the one who claimed that this product had been discontinued. These are the changes I made; you'll note that there's nothing about Pepsi Vanilla.
I think that you saw this comparison and assumed that the text in red was mine because I was the most recent person to have edited the article- wrong!
All I put in was a sentence about "12939 supplies"- the Vanilla thing came from an earlier version which "my" version added to. I didn't write that, and I'm not responsible for it. It showed up because you'd removed it from the next version.
Also, can you please create an account if you wish to discuss stuff like this. Having to communicate via a "pretend user" talk page tied to one's Internet address is inconvenient and unreliable. Ubcule (talk) 13:56, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


Ubcule, I'd like to know where you got your source of Pepsi Vanilla being discontinued, which won't happen. Please response. Bob-- (talk) 23:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I didn't say that and I already replied to this.
I already explained the situation above (see "Pepsi").
Also, please create a user account, as it's generally a pain in the neck to leave messages and engage in discussion with anonymous users (for technical reasons I won't bore you with). Ubcule (talk) 23:59, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I am the one who put the pepsi vanilla was discontinued because in America, the original pepsi vanilla was discontinued. BOB do not play the blame game! Unless you are sure that it is still made. The pepsi vanilla home page has not even been updated since 2003, which shows that pepsi doesnt make it anymore. Ubcule, i am sorry that you were blamed for this edit.--Kopicz (talk) 22:31, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, it wasn't your fault. First time round I didn't blame Bob either as it was an honest newbie mistake. What was more annoying was that made the same accusation a second time, even though I'd already replied (and made clear it was nothing to do with me) on *the same page*! Whatever... anyway, as I said, not your fault. Ubcule (talk) 23:49, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Nice work on edit on File:JuiceBoxPlayer.JPG[edit]

Thanks. =D CompuHacker (talk) 21:38, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

No problem! Ubcule (talk) 21:40, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Response to Police Camera Action[edit]

I would have to admit that I would have to agree with you on that one. The problem is, of course, that I know virtually nothing about Adrian Simpson. I think I am going to request that an article about him should be made. P.S. I'm not sure if you saw this before or not. I originally put this message on my talk page - less than four hours after you sent your first message. Rayboy8 (talk) 23:50, 3 March 2009 (UTC) Retrieved from "" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rayboy8 (talkcontribs) 17:53, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


Hi, I placed the reference tag on Anadin because the sources you provided are primary (both company websites). Whilst it is true that they are unlikely to be misleading ideally wikipedia sources should be third party sources. Try searching anadin on google news. A couple of articles that could be used can be found e.g [1] [2]. These could also be used to present a more neutral point of view in the article. Let me know if you have any further queries. Smartse (talk) 12:09, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Reply on your talk page where discussion was started. Ubcule (talk) 12:44, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

File:Saxo 15D mkI.jpg missing description details[edit]

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How would I know who the author is? I wasn't the original uploader.
As the original uploader claims to be the copyright holder, it's probable that they're the author, but that's not 100% guaranteed.
I would have suggested you contact the original uploader, but I see that you already have. So I'm not sure why you asked me something I know no more about than you. Ubcule (talk) 22:27, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


Information.png Hi Ubcule! An article you have been involved with has been tagged by its parent project as being in need of a little attention or further development. If you can help with these minor issues please see talk:Evesham Technology. --Kudpung (talk) 10:14, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Atlantis Software[edit]

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See Talk:Atlantis_Software for response and further discussion. Ubcule (talk) 00:02, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Evesham Technology[edit]

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Sorry I wasn't able to contribute to this. Ubcule (talk) 17:49, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Gumby images[edit]

Thanks for your note re: the Monty Python Gumby images. I'm aware that increasing the size above the image's existing resolution doesn't increase the detail. I simply felt the images were a bit small (smaller than they really needed to be for fair use concerns -- I think a width of about 300 is generally considered to be a reasonable maximum, depending on the image) and that the small amount of distortion created by over-sizing them was worth the improvement in presentation size. I played around with various sizes until I found what I thught was a happy medium. No big deal, though, YMMV. fui (talk) 21:08, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

(Reply is at talk:Fui where conversation started). Ubcule (talk) 23:13, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Terminator II (Bruno Mattei film)[edit]

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Articles for deletion nomination of Terminator II (Bruno Mattei film)[edit]

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Pick something appropriate like {{Non-free fair use in}} Sfan00 IMG (talk) 22:22, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
OIC; no problem. I thought there was something missing in the rationale, forgot about that :-) Ubcule (talk) 22:26, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Scala (clothing)[edit]

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Aforementioned content isn't mine, I simply moved it from where it didn't belong. Ubcule (talk) 22:34, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Tagging Copyright violations for deletion[edit]

For Fairly unambiguous copyvios like Alka madan, you can just use speedy deletion criteria G12. If you have further questions, feel free to ask. --Fiftytwo thirty (talk) 22:42, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

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Commodore 16[edit]

Hi there,

I saw you posted something about me on Commodore 16 page on Feb 2011. The history is simple, I founded in an old bookcase some old ads and manuals about the Old commodore computer sold in a supermarket near my home in Mexico. I saw that none page of wikipedia talk about that, so I did opened the section "mexico" and posted what I found. Then you started to made my life a HELL. You claims that I lie at any costs and my ads and manuals are fake. I did post by accident the ad to wikipedia commons and you went to tell me that he was going to delete the file and you did it.

I'm not a liar and can show the scans to these ads and manuals to anybody, but I'm tired of defend my material of people like you. I'm tired and I regret to think that I could add this info to wikipedia. I just want to delete my info of this place and the material I did post. So please I'll try to delete the info about mexico in commodore 16 and keep it deleted please. You all won "commodore never made computers in mexico" despite I have the manuals and ads in my hands.

I had my share of Wikipedia Trolls and I had enough. Farewell. - Lobocursor — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lobocursor (talkcontribs) 05:14, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

You said
"Then you started to made my life a HELL"
This is *blatantly* untrue. Anyone looking at the Commodore 16 article page history, its talk page, and my talk page (here)- the only places we have ever talked- can see that your accusation above is ridiculous and unfair.
I was concerned that you had posted a *lot* of information without citing it and added some tags. I removed some material that I thought was irrelevant to the subject. And we discussed some of this. We disagreed over some details, I made a few minor changes. Most of your info is still there, and I was happy with it.
Then 8 months later(!!!) you come along and start making hysterical and baseless accusations.
"You claims that I lie at any costs and my ads and manuals are fake"
I did *not* say anything like that.
I simply requested more citation (see WP:CITE) so we could see if your information source was reliable or not- this is standard for Wikipedia.
"I did post by accident the ad to wikipedia commons and you went to tell me that he was going to delete the file and you did it."
Commons was the wrong place for it (it was "fair use", not "free"). So to be helpful I moved it back to Wikipedia for you and it is still here (see [:File:Concurso Commodore Aurrera 1a FAIR USE ONLY.jpg]).
It was removed from Commons because I knew it was safe at Wikipedia!! I added a comment to notify admins so that both copies were *not* deleted (i.e. make sure that there is at least one).
Ironically, the picture almost got automatically deleted recently after *you* removed the "Mexico" section from the article- this was because the image was no longer in use. That part was entirely *your* fault, not mine!!

In every case here, it is either an ordinary disagreement or you have misunderstood something I was doing in an effort to help.
But to be honest, I should not have to defend myself against this unpleasant accusation and name-calling just because you got the wrong end of the stick.
Ubcule (talk) 00:47, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Additional; comments I made regarding this matter are on record at this version of the Administrator's Noticeboard page. Ubcule (talk) 13:31, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Request for help[edit]

Hello Ubcule. I am wondering if you can work your image cropping magic on the picture in the James Earl Jones infobox. That KGB1 license plate is from something but I can't remember what and the page for the image doesn't seem to have any info about it. I find it distracting (as you found the carrot juice and sign in the Colin Baker pic) and I think the infobox would be better without it. However that is just my opinion and if you disagree or you aren't inclined to change it there is no obligation whatsoever. Thanks for you time and cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 22:42, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

I've uploaded a new version to Wikimedia Commons and included it in some articles:- File:James Earl Jones 2010 Crop.jpg.
To be honest, although his facial expression come out well in that photo- and it's quite good in some respects- there are some problems with the large amount of almost featureless dark clothing taking up much of the picture. However, because of how he's sitting, if I was to crop it further to focus on his face, it'd possibly look like he was being punched. So I left it with just the basic crop you asked for. :-)
BTW, most photo-editing tools will allow you to do basic cropping like this, if you're interested.
All the best, Ubcule (talk) 23:56, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks so much. It looks good. You are right about the clothing - I hadn't noticed that. I am not very versed in all that a computer can do - photoshop and everything else - so I do appreciate your taking the time to work on this. Have a spooooktacular Halloween. MarnetteD | Talk 01:49, 31 October 2011 (UTC)


Sorry about that; I hope it's clearer now. - Biruitorul Talk 17:25, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

That's okay- thanks for the reply. All the best, Ubcule (talk) 17:31, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

The Falklands War under The Empire Strikes Back[edit]

The Falklands War was popularly dubbed "The Empire Strikes Back" by Time Magazine ( and other media sources. It's not called that much anymore, but it definitely isn't nonsense. Dan Wang (talk) 15:34, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

(Reply at User talk:Dan Wang where conversation was started) . Ubcule (talk) 21:29, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
What's a test2 anyways? Dan Wang (talk) 23:10, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
It's a boilerplate template for warnings; see Template:Test2. Ubcule (talk) 23:34, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
I still don't fully understand (boilerplate?), but has it since expired or whatever? Dan Wang (talk) 08:25, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
What I mean is that it's one of those "off-the-shelf" chunks of pre-written warning text that can be placed onto someone's page simply by typing a template reference like {{test2}}. (You can try this out in your sandbox).
Boilerplate in general refers to large-ish chunks of standardised text used repeatedly in identical or very similar form.
BTW, please don't worry about the notice. It was only ever a low-level "first offence" warning, and would (should) have been ignored since it was given in error, however I've removed it anyway. Sorry for the inconvenience. All the best, Ubcule (talk) 14:41, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Red Dwarf disambig line redirect[edit]

Ah, sorry about that edit! Before making it, I did briefly try to find out if it was preferable to avoid redirects in the About template, and if it was appropriate for it to contain an un-piped link to an article's #-subsection. But the main place I checked was the documentation of Template:About; I knew that MOS:Disambig applies to disambiguation pages, but I didn't realise that its guidelines also apply to the About template. I should've looked harder! --Nick RTalk 16:31, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry about it- I wasn't too clear on the situation myself until I read up on it. Also, for most cases, what you say is still true- it's an exception rather than a rule. Ubcule (talk) 17:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Network Q RAC Rally Championship (1993)[edit]

Hi. Oh yes, I've just realised it is in fact called simply Network Q RAC Rally. It is part of the Rally Championship series however... --Gaming&Computing (talk) 18:27, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

(Reply at Gaming and Computing's talk page) Ubcule (talk) 18:56, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


How kind. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:14, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Hahaha. OMG. You are obviously not familiar with the work of UK TV pundit Clive James. It's the full-on, Kamikaze commitment of the original Japanese series that I was alluding to in my green-room quiz, not some Middle-America teen-reality faux-fat-camp boy-girl confection! (no offence) Martinevans123 (talk) 20:52, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
No offence taken, but I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion, as you've got completely the wrong end of the stick(!)
Quite the contrary- I'm well aware of Clive James and the Japanese show Endurance, and I've never seen- nor care about- the US show!
Simple explanation- I had changed the Endurance (television) redirect to point to the US show for reasons of consistency. (*) However, this would have led to existing uses of the redirect (including yours) intending the Japanese show to get the US show instead, so it was obviously my job to patch that up.
I knew very well that you wouldn't have wanted a link to the US show, that's why I changed it. Hope this explains things.
(*) Obvious question- why did I change the redirect in the first place? Answer- Because differentiating the US and Japanese shows with "Endurance (TV show)" and "Endurance (television)" was non-intuitive. Anyone seeing the titles would assume that they referred to the same thing. Actually, I've decided to speedy-nominate the latter anyway, it's no longer used. Ubcule (talk) 21:57, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
"Doctor, doctor, I used to be confused, but now I'd like to cancel my daily milk delivery.. " Phew, what a relief. I was fearing some bot-inspired transmogrification from hard-core Banzai to something far less savoury. But, then, we all know that wikipedia gets more and more like a popular reality TV show every day, don't we. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:14, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Revision ... why?[edit]

Good evening Ubcule,

I notice that you have just made this revision to my sandbox.

Although I am confident that you mean well, and the correction is more accurate, I am extremely curious as to how you noticed it, or moreover, what caused you to even study my own private space.

I look forward to hearing from you. Please reply here – I shall be watching your page.

Regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 19:38, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Gareth,
The answer's actually boringly simple. :-) On almost any page, you can go into the "Toolbox" menu (at the left-hand side), click "What links here" and it'll show you all links to that page.
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Your page was listed as one of the few users of that link- that's the only reason I knew about it.
FWIW, the reason I was doing that in the first place was that I'd repointed the "Endurance (television)" redirect page. Any existing uses of that redirect- intended to link to the Japanese TV series- would instead have gone to the unrelated US TV series. Since I was the one that made the change, it was also my job to patch this up.
Hope this helps, Ubcule (talk) 20:43, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Yes, thank you. I feel much better about my space, which I had believed was private although accessable, being 'invaded' – perfectly understandable now. Cheers! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 21:09, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Nope, they're definitely not private. :-)
FWIW, I only changed that link as my action would otherwise have "broken" your page (i.e. resulted in an existing link going to a different article). I wouldn't touch someone else's user, talk or sandbox pages simply to "improve" them in the way I would with an article. Ubcule (talk) 22:00, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Ubcule,
Just a line to thank you again for taking so much time in explaining this to me ... much appreciated. Cheers! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 14:25, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
No problem, glad I could help. All the best, Ubcule (talk) 14:42, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: Gauntlet[edit]

Didn't know about the other 1984 game. Thanks for letting me know! --Jtalledo (talk) 14:04, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

(Reply left at User talk:Jtalledo where conversation started). Ubcule (talk) 21:09, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
I see now it was on the dab page, but I was expecting it to be in the hatnote. I believe sharing a title and a release year would merit a mention up top. Sorry if you took offense. I was just trying to help out. --Jtalledo (talk) 21:15, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
(Reply left at User talk:Jtalledo where conversation started). Ubcule (talk) 21:41, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
OK. Thanks for clearing things up. :) --Jtalledo (talk) 21:49, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Cromemco.png)[edit]

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File:RCA Quarter Inch Tape Cartridge 2A.png[edit]

Thanks for the tweaks! I don't think the "rough edges" are a problem, esp not at the typical viewing size in the WP page. Jeh (talk) 21:49, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

No problem; I agree that the edges look fine under normal use, it's just that it could have been better and I'm not claiming that it was a particularly great job (nor a fault of the original!), that's all. Ubcule (talk) 13:42, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

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Sup, been inactive for a while, yes you are of course right about this, i misread the sentence, my bad, thanks for the correction. Cya!--Idonthavetimeforthiscarp 13:57, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

No problem, all the best! Ubcule (talk) 19:41, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Magic Fly[edit]

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Thank you for the boilerplate notifying me that "my" article Magic Fly was going to be deleted. The only problem is that *I* didn't create an article at all... I created that *page* as a redirect, nothing more. That was later replaced with an actual article by someone else!
The logical conclusion here is that even if the article was deleted, it should be reverted to the original redirect.
This is the second time I've been in this exact position, and it definitely illustrates a flaw in the notification protocol- the "true" creator of the article hasn't been notified at all
FWIW, do you use an automated tool such as Twinkle to nominate such pages?
(FWIW, I'm considering altering that article anyway- Magic Fly (the song at least) is a significant and well-known Euro-Disco track). But that's not the point I was addressing here). Ubcule (talk) 22:59, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for the misattribution. Converted back to a redirect. I'm happy for you to write a sourced article (I have no idea of the actual notability of the topic, only the state of the article when I saw it). My usual practice is to patrol Category:Uncategorized_pages and categorise (and often do some other minor improvement) on each article. I use Wikipedia:HotCat for categories and Wikipedia:Twinkle for other things. Stuartyeates (talk) 23:22, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Maybe I should have been clearer, but I wasn't asking for it to be converted back to a redirect (and nor do I think I had the right to do that). I meant that *if* it was to be deleted, then the redirect should be restored (rather than the thing being removed altogether).
In fact- as I mentioned- I was in the middle of adding the requested refs when I saw that you had edited it at the same time. To be honest, I think it would have been better to let the PROD run its course- even if the reversion technically wasn't a "deletion", it was to most intents and purposes.
Anyway, no hard feelings, and thank you for confirming that you used Twinkle- I'll raise this issue at the Village Pump. Ubcule (talk) 23:35, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

8-Track Tape edit[edit]

Hi Ubcule

I've noticed you have removed my edit in 8-track tape quoting the following "Uncited and very dubious assertion (see talk page) by anonymous editor with questionable record removed. (Even if a few were sold, they were *not* "very" nor even "moderately" popular in the UK).)" I had posted this from a shared network, and looking back have realised that someone has been warned several times for posting rubbish / vandalism from the this I.P. The changes I have made have all been in good faith, and have been Red Rose Speedway, 2x Bedford Vehicles, Bert Trautmann, and Bedford CA. All of these are cited and factually accurate. I have now applied for a username to solve the I.P. issue. On the issue of 8-Track tape, the article states that "It was popular in the United States from the mid-1960s through to the early 1980s, but was relatively unknown in many European countries" There is no source for this statement, and although it may be the case for European countries in general, I am of an age where I remember the format being widely used in the UK. There was intense rivalry between the 8 Track and compact cassette formats in the early seventies, which eventually ended in the demise of 8 track for the reasons quoted in the article, but certainly for several years music was sold in the UK in equal numbers on 8 track and cassettes for in-car use. I cannot provide evidence for this, and am not sure even where to look, but equally there is no source cited for the "relatively unknown in many European countries" or indeed for your assertion that "Even if a few were sold, they were *not* "very" nor even "moderately" popular in the UK," As I have already stated, the edit was made in good faith, and also in the interests of accuracy, as I clearly remember the format not being exclusively a US phenomenon. I do understand the fact that it may have appeared to be another dubious post from a dodgy I.P., but I believe that you should reconsider. (talk) 04:45, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

I already commented on that edit at the 8-track cartridge talk page, so I've pasted your comment above and replied there instead.
All the best, Ubcule (talk) 20:35, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Farhad Shahnawaz[edit]

I know you brought up a similar article to this on AN/I back in September 2013, I thought you might be interested in knowing that it's been recreated, but by a different user. Liz Read! Talk! 23:55, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this to my attention! All the best, Ubcule (talk) 00:01, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Minty (band)[edit]

Nice one with the redirect. But shouldn't they have an article really? They pass WP:BAND on at least two counts - one of the singles got to #2 in Holland and they got their '"multiple, non-trivial, published works"' in the form of numerous Melody Maker pieces (mostly as part of Romo) and some NME coverage too. (talk) 16:45, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

They may well deserve their own article, but for my money it would have to be expanded beyond the length of the the current (brief) article section for this to be worthwhile (else it'd just be a stub article of material that loses the context of the parent article).
If you want to write the article, you're certainly welcome to. You'd have to be logged in under an account to do that, but if you don't have an account (or want to do it anonymously (*)), you could always submit it via Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation.
(*) Well, it's not really anonymous, since your IP is still displayed, and since you can create an account without providing personal details- which hides your IP from non-administrators- that's probably preferable. Though I can't remember off the top of my head if newly-registered users can create new articles.
All the best, Ubcule (talk) 18:05, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Onoff (retailer)[edit]

I had my computer shut down, when I got back, the list was same(previous one, not the updated one), that is how it went. I probably didn't even remember what was the name of your article. So consider this to be a common housekeeping. Though I will quickly update the list. OccultZone (Talk) 15:20, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

(Note; this was a response to this comment at OccultZone's talk page which user removed for the reasons claimed here).
Replying here, as you removed the entire original comment from your talk page for reasons I don't agree with, but whatever.
Regarding the second change, fair enough, that's an understandable mistake. I still didn't see the point of the original edit though; it struck me as being overzealous and/or sloppy in missing the honking great notice that informed readers it was still a work in progress(!)
Ubcule (talk) 15:53, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Beetham Tower[edit]

Before you needlessly start having a go at me again I did not even write that sentence so go and take your childish accusations elsewhere. Stevo1000 (talk) 00:48, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Reply left at user's talk page where discussion started. Ubcule (talk) 13:07, 10 June 2014 (UTC)


No worries, and thanks for the nice very message. I've had a little try at it. I hope it's an improvement but I'm no expert on this content so maybe someone who is will fix it better! :) Cheers DBaK (talk) 12:21, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Chicago XXXIV[edit]

Hey there. I wanted to lay your pretty little head to rest over Chicago XXXIV: Live in '75 because I deleted the junk text for which you had laid a warning. The article popped up on my watchlist due to some linkage to some Chicago articles that I've written, but I'd never seen this article before. So I checked the history real quick and saw your complaint about the 'review' prose. So if you hadn't written a good comment, I would have missed it. lol. DELETED!!! I regret that I can only delete the text rather than actually punishing whoever put that garbage into an encyclopedia. And it's been there since the first version. But the person has basically quit editing a year and a half ago. Anyway, thanx. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 04:44, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

On the contrary, I have quite a big head, and [ whether it's pretty] is a matter of opinion ;-)
Yeah, that text was very fannish (bordering on gush), and while everyone's entitled to their opinion, this isn't the place for it. I should simply have removed it as you did, but I thought there were one or two factual fragments in there that might have warranted keeping.
On reflection, since even those weren't referenced, I think it was better for the article that the whole lot was simply dumped. Thanks, Ubcule (talk) 22:23, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
@Ubcule: Yeah, it's definitely gush. Beside that, it was all a review of the original material. It wasn't even unique to the material directly in this album. It was so deranged that I searched the history for the article on WikiBlame, and I searched his editing history for other abuse. lol. Ludicrous! Speaking of abominations unto the eyes of God and man, holy crapola, that a self portrait? Because you gotta be careful around here, because someone will disbelieve that you shot that yourself, and they'll demand that you issue a copyright statement from what SIMPLY MUST HAVE BEEN a third party photographer. Just a warning, FYI. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 22:34, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
The image *definitely* isn't mine(!), and doesn't claim (nor imply) to be- it's a link to an external non-Wikimedia site (and shows up as such). The majority of external links point to non-freely-licensed content. Since you seem to think it's misleading- and the joke has now been made- I've removed it, but just because someone might "demand" something doesn't mean they'll get anything more than an explanation of how Wikipedia links work. (^_^)
And yeah, that might or *cough* might not be me, but on the Internet nobody knows you're a dog. :-) Ubcule (talk) 23:26, 6 December 2014 (UTC)