User talk:Ugog Nizdast

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To see how frequently I'll be available, check my main user page "Current status". Irrespective of that, I'll try to respond to anything here as quickly as possible.

Feel free to post here, especially if I made any mistakes. I am not experienced enough here and one never stops learning. Need some help with anything or perhaps an article? I generally am lazy and slow in my contributions but with a little prodding or help, I'll get encouraged to work on it.

Third Opinion[edit]

Thanks for tendering your carefully considered third opinion here. --Epeefleche (talk) 18:17, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

You're very welcome! Ugog Nizdast (talk) 18:37, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

August 2014[edit]

Information icon Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Sarojini Naidu‎: you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. Wikicology (talk) 16:17, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Hey there @Wikicology: already did that. Sincerely, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 16:41, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
thank you for doing that. Accept my unreserved apology. Cheers Wikicology (talk) 16:54, 11 August 2014 (UTC)


I noticed an edit to Hafez today in which an editor undid disruptive edits to the article. Looking at the recent Revision History, one can see several disruptive edits, including an edit saying that Hafez's parents were Bakhtiari, the same information added by the same editor to Saadi Shirazi on 8 August and undone by you on 10 August. I'm wondering whether an admin should leave a note on that editor's talk page. CorinneSD (talk) 16:43, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

@CorinneSD: Don't worry, the said editor has been blocked and the disruptive edits reverted by someone else. Good day, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 19:07, 13 August 2014 (UTC)


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Hello, Ugog Nizdast. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Peer review/Maharashtra/archive1.
Message added 18:04, 15 August 2014 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Hello Sir. I've respond to your queries. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  18:04, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

@25 Cents FC: need to be so formal with me and I watch both those pages so I see your work. Great so far, we can continue on the review page. I'll respond there when I get time to continue my review of it. Expect a day or two between my responses. Sincerely, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 18:15, 15 August 2014 (UTC)


What is the use of the "defaultsort" on Human evolution? Dt Mos Ios (talk) 13:12, 16 August 2014 (UTC).

@Dt Mos Ios: Hey there, it is mainly for categorisation purposes: read more about it at Wikipedia:Default sorting#Sort keys and Help:Category#Sort order. In this case, it properly splits Human and Evolution from the article title "Human evolution" for categorisation. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:27, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
I understand the use of this to replace special letters or to place a surname first in categories (unlike in a page title); but I must admit I do not understand why it is useful and how it works in this case... Could you explain the use of it as it is the same as the page title? Dt Mos Ios (talk) 13:32, 16 August 2014 (UTC).
@Dt Mos Ios: You know what? apart from that (maybe it capitalises Evolution for the title), I'm not sure myself...all I know that it should be placed in that order there. Why don't you try the Help desk, linking this discussion? If you get a better answer, let me know here. It could be, as you say, not needed there. Sincerely, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:45, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
Maybe the answer is the same as on Wikipedia talk:Categorization#Example? 16:51, 16 August 2014 (UTC).
@Dt Mos Ios: Ah, I see...the capitals is important. Good day, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 17:27, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Good articles Future GAN Backlog Drive[edit]

Hello everyone! Hope you've all been having a great summer!

TheQ Editor recently proposed the idea of having another Backlog Drive in either September/October or November/December of this year. For those of you who have participated in the past two drives you know I was the one who organized them, however, come September, this will be my most important year in school so I will not be able to coordinate this drive (if it happens). TheQ Editor has volunteered to be a coordinator for the drive. If any of you would like to co-coordinator, please notify TheQ Editor on his talk page.

If you would be interested in participating in a Backlog Drive sometime before the end of this year, please notify TheQ Editor. Also, make sure to specify what month(s) work best for you.

At the time this message was sent out, the backlog was at 520 nominations. Since May, the backlog has been steadily increasing and we are currently near an all time high. Even though the backlog will not disappear over one drive, this drive can lead to several others which will (hopefully) lead to the day where there is no longer a backlog.

As always, the more participants, the better, and everyone is encouraged to participate!

Sent by Dom497--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:52, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Re:Overpopulation in India[edit]

I don't have time for debates but I looked at the discussion and it seems people arguing against overpopulation in India have no serious sources to prove their point. Even the CIA world factbook states this fact. It has nothing to do with opinion. I even added citations in my edit. Even if majority disagree, they need some reliable sources.--Taeyebaar (talk) 00:21, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

@Taeyebaar: Regarding that edit, whether referenced or not, adding it was against the current consensus so I had to revert; if I didn't, someone else would have probably much later. I've had no involvement in that discussion, so have no opinion on this.
However, I can tell you that if you're really inclined to add it and disagree with that discussion, to take this to the talk page. Consensus can change. No doubt it may not work out according to how you want it, but you might learn something new, and that discussion could be used for future reference. Time is really not an issue here, you don't have to actively participate in the talk page...take as long as you like.
Anyway, that was just my two cents on this. Good day, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 09:25, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Does community consensus override wp:rs? I'm not sure how this works, but I'll be happy to at least partially participate in a discussion to ensure that it goes into the article. As you wrote there's no deadline. Thanks for informing me.--Taeyebaar (talk) 04:12, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
(talk page stalker)I have not seen the discussion in question, but I can say that in theory WP:RS stands paramount; in practice though, as with all policies, they are not 100 percent precise. It frequently occurs that there is community consensus against using what might superficially seem to be a reliable source. Of course, that consensus can change, and occasionally it can be wrong; there are places to sort this out, like the talk page, WP:RSN, WP:DRN, and so forth. Hope this helps. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 05:46, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Phrasing would be important; what exactly do you state? "India is overpopulated", "population pressure", or "Indian goverment works hard to provide food and income for a growing population"? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 13:02, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Vanamonde for your response, the discussion is Talk:India/Archive_38#Overpopulation. To Joshua Jonathan, the edit added "Overpopulation" to the statement "India continues to face...". Since you have been involved in it before, you may want to go ahead with Taeyebaar in case anyone of you both want to start it again.
To @Taeyebaar: WP:RS is a content guideline, so as Vanamonde said, it cannot be overrided and even if it does, it may be in extreme situations and rarely be done in such a way as you have said. Looking back at the discussion at hand, I personally see the dispute as being regarding whether that term is used by majority of the reliable sources or not; finally, it seemed like most who opined felt that it wasn't. If you feel like starting it again, you can go ahead at Talk:India and start a new section. It's best to keep the discussion at one place and the old participants may need to be notified. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 17:29, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for responses guys. In response to Joshua's comments above, the area where it says the country continues to face pressing problems. In response to Vanamonde93, we should go by how reliable the sources are. To start with I could mention the CIA world factbook, which is in fact used as a source on wikipedia on country topics, including India, so that would be the strongest source in favor of adding overpopulation to the India article. Otherwise it's questionable that wikipedia uses it as a source but denies it in other situations. But I think what's agreed is it requires further discussion and I'm willing to share all the input I can in the time i have--Taeyebaar (talk) 21:46, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

I have started a new discussion on the subject. You are welcomed to post there.--Taeyebaar (talk) 20:36, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

@Taeyebaar: Yes, I've seen it on my watchlist and notified those previous participants for you. Remember to indent your replies using ":"--for more, see Talk page guidelines before taking part. I hope you've prepared to be patient and relax for this one, you've probably seen in the old discussion, one of the editors lost their cool since the very beginning, thus not helping their side of argument much. Anyway good luck, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 11:50, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

@Nizdast thank you.--Taeyebaar (talk) 20:12, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

About India's map which is shown by writer.[edit]

I requesting sir please remove that Map which is showing some part of India is missing & shown in adjacent countries.— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 11:49, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

I have no idea what you're referring to. Maybe you need to read Talk:India/FAQ Question 6. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:09, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) This may be just me and my dirty suspicions, but I'm guessing this is a veiled reference to the fact that maps on Wikipedia show territory as it is currently held, and not as the Indian government would like it to be shown; ie Azad Kashmir in Pakistan, and the Aksai Chin in China. Of course, this is necessary thanks to NPOV, and it's unlikely there is anything to fix here. Vanamonde93 (talk) 17:30, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

GA Cup[edit]

Hello everyone! We hope you have all been having a great summer!

As we all know, the recent GAN Backlog Drives have not had any big impact on the backlog. Because of that, me (Dom497), Figureskatingfan, and TheQ Editor have worked on an idea that could possibly finally put a dent into the massive backlog. Now, I will admit, the idea isn't entirely ours as we have took the general idea of the WikiCup and brought it over to WikiProject Good Articles. But anyways, here's what we have in mind:

For all of you that do not know what the WikiCup is, it is an annual competition between several editors to see who can get the most Good Articles, Featured Article's, Did You Know's, etc. Based of this, we propose to you the GA Cup. This competition will only focus on reviewing Good articles.

For more info on the proposal, click here. As a FYI, the proposal page is not what the final product will look like (if you do go ahead with this idea). It will look very similar to WikiCup's page(s).

The discussion for the proposal will take place here. Please let us know if you are interested, have any concerns, things to consider, etc.

--Dom497, Figureskatingfan, and TheQ Editor

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:29, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Amazing profile !!! ^_^ Ayesha aqsa (talk) 18:11, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
@Ayesha aqsa: That's very kind of you and welcome to Wikipedia. If you need any help here feel free to ask me. Good day, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 10:02, 3 September 2014 (UTC)


As you can see I get very less time (because of office work) to check Wikipedia. I request you to add Uttar Pradesh, Indian National Congress, Vivah, Allahabad, Maine Pyar Kiya, Amrita Rao and Maharashtra in your watchlist. I have spent so many hours to write these seven articles but IP users doesn't understand and they often vandalize with no genuine reason. Please help.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  07:11, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done added all to my list + I already watch Maharashtra and Indian National Congress--my general observation is INC already looked after by many and is in good hands. I'd be happy to watch your GAs Maharashtra (soon-to-be), Allabhabad and Uttar Pradesh. The rest, since I'm totally unfamiliar with, I might have to ask you occasionally regarding reverting certain IP edits. The IP edits mostly aren't vandalism but misguided edits which unfortunately plagues our Indian-related topics due to most being from vernacular backgrounds. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 16:58, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles - GA Cup[edit]

WikiProject Good Articles's 2014-15 GA Cup
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WikiProject Good articles is holding a new competition, the GA Cup, from October 1, 2014 - March 28, 2015. The Cup will be based on reviewing Good article nominations; for each review, points will be awarded with bonuses for older nominations, longer articles and comprehensive reviews. All participants will start off in one group and the highest scoring participants will go through to the second round. At the moment six rounds are planned, but this may change based on participant numbers.

Some of you may ask: what is the purpose for a competition of this type? Currently, there is a backlog of about 500 unreviewed Good article nominations, almost an all time high. It is our hope that we can decrease the backlog in a fun way, through friendly competition.

Everyone is welcome to join; new and old editors! Sign-ups will be open until October 15, 2014 so sign-up now!

If you have any questions, take a look at the FAQ page and/or contact one of the four judges.

Cheers from NickGibson3900, Dom497, TheQ Editor and Figureskatingfan.

--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:04, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

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Why edit removed though reference was made available?[edit]

I did give a valid reference for my edit. It was listed as 187th in the list of references. Then why was my edit removed???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rampy.g (talkcontribs) 09:58, 19 September 2014‎ (UTC)

Hello @Rampy.g: because " " is not considered as a Reliable Source. Please read what consists of one and what does not. Sincerely, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 10:04, 19 September 2014 (UTC)