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Marshall Strabala page

I have taken my dispute to Wikipedia dispute handler. Thank youMykjoseph (talk) 15:53, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 16 May 2011

Mark Pretorius

Please could you have a look at the page I created for Mark Pretorius and let me know if it now meets notability?

Thanks in advance

Infrasupra (talk) 10:36, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi Ukexpat

Darling, I saw that you are quite nervous...Tell me gradualy what do I have to do.

Thank you, Wish you a beautiful day, Dana. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dana83art (talkcontribs) 12:10, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Please don't patronise me. I have already explained what you have to do - take a look at WP:Referencing for beginners and WP:RS. – ukexpat (talk) 12:28, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi,
I am not patronizing you at all. Sorry if this is your feeling. I read all the instructions last week.
Thank you, Keep in touch,Dana.Dana83art (talk) 18:04, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Image help

Hi there - I am working on my first article of an author. I would like to post an image of her with some text beneath it - similar to the image on the Zadie Smith page - but I am not sure how to do that? Can u help? Thanks! --Veevivovum (talk) 17:12, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi again - Just wanted to let you know that I found your answer to my above question on The new user's help desk page - sorry I did not see earlier I was looking in the wrong spot. thanks for pointing me in the right direction.--Veevivovum (talk) 17:37, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For all your hard work on the Help Desk. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 21:05, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Much appreciated, thank you! – ukexpat (talk) 21:31, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Help desk reply

I only realized after commenting that you already linked to the user creation log. I should actually read the comments causing an edit conflict rather replying blindly. Otherwise I wouldn't have linked to the page a second time and avoided creating a slight redundancy. :) Cheers. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:06, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

No problem, easily done. – ukexpat (talk) 14:43, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

please tell me

what you want i send you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vitoria_Riboque.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Salah44 (talkcontribs) 14:40, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

You must provide some evidence that the image has been released under the terms stated.--ukexpat (talk) 14:44, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

i send

i send mail to if i am understand to permissions-en@wikimedia.org I dont understand wht i must send also photo is create of our club designer photos, i put his name also he send to this mail permissions-en@wikimedia.org

please help me

what kind of evidence ??? is here somebody help me —Preceding unsigned comment added by Salah44 (talkcontribs) 15:11, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

I am trying to help you. A club official must send an e-mail to permissions-en@wikimedia.org stating that the club releases the image for all purposes. That will be sufficient. It may take several days or longer for the e-mail to be acted upon. – ukexpat (talk) 15:17, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

They send mail . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Salah44 (talkcontribs) 15:22, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Zero Energy Design - invalid speedy deletion

I've gone through this before, and now it comes up yet again. Is this going to go on forever? I formally submitted the CCA statement about use of copyrighted material to Wikipedia. It is NOT in violation! You have to explain to me how Zero Energy Design is any more of an advertisement than the peacock-term entry for Texas Instruments, and many other articles about corporations. It was deleted before I had the first chance to dispute the incorrect tag. Escientist (talk) 21:30, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

I just tagged it, User:JamesBWatson deleted it so take it up with him or at Deletion review. For what it's worth it looked to me like an advertisement masquerading as an article. – ukexpat (talk) 21:35, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Back again now too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Energy_Design -- Avanu (talk) 23:49, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Not any more. – ukexpat (talk) 03:39, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Constructive Criticism PLEASE

You are very persistant in your deletions.

May I please ask you guys for some constructive assistance?

If you really want to make Wikipedia better, then I explicitly ask for your assistance. Is that too much to ask from self-appointed "editors"? Editors should be helpers - Not just deleters. A real editor makes suggestions for improvement.

How about if I enter the following?

Zero Energy Design is a Holistic System Integration Engineering Process developed in 1979. The work has been supported by the Oak Ridge National Laboratories, and the U.S. Department of Energy for over thirty years.[1]

  1. ^ "DOE and ORNL International Buildings Conference Workshop: Three Decades of Passive Solar Heating and Cooling Lessons Learned".

It only references an authoritative source (other than my own websites).

How can editors complain about a reference to work funded by U.S. government agencies?

How is that an advert ? ? ?

PLEASE BE SPECIFIC - How can I make it better ? Is there a conflict of interest in the recent deletions?

I AM trying hard to learn how to to accomodate the Wikipedia rules. Is there room in your exclusive CCA club? Zero Energy Design is a historical reference. The DOE and ORNL believe that there are lessons from the past that ARE valuable today.

The 2011 DOE Strategic Plan says that we should Deply the technology that we have. What motivation do you have for blocking the deployment of government-funded R&D information?

Escientist (talk) 15:46, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

You have asked for advice a number of times and been given it by several other users, but you appear to be ignoring it. The basic problem is that you appear to be incapable of writing the article from a neutral point of view, which is not surprising as you are closely connected with the subject as its creator. You have a massive and inescapable conflict of interest. This is precisely why users with a COI are strongly advised not to create or contribute to articles where they have a COI. So my advice is to leave it to someone else to create the article. There is no deadline, the world won't end tomorrow (well some think it will, but they are nutjobs) if there is no article about this subject right now. If you really want to get something out there, try WikiCompany. I have stated my position and I am not going to debate this any further with you. If you want to revisit the deletion of the articles (which have by the way been deleted 4 times now), contact the admins who made the deletions. – ukexpat (talk) 17:30, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Notability

Greetings Ukexepat I left a previous message for you regarding the notability sign you attached to a page I have been working on for Mark Pretorius. I have sourced and made substantial changes to it, and I believe it now meets notability, i.e. criterion 4. Could you please let me know what would be the process now, to have the tag removed? Thanks,

Infrasupra (talk) 07:45, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 23 May 2011

Tell me

How I may protect page from unregistred user , i want to do that, because some club rivals may vandalise page , — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salah44 (talkcontribs) 16:29, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

You can ask for the page to be protected, but admins will only do so in the face of current vandalism, they won't protect just in case there is vandalism. And note, it is not "your" page. – ukexpat (talk) 17:20, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

I have no doubt you'll bring her up to DYK or GA status in no time. She's a star! Thanks, Drmies (talk) 01:28, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

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Mohawk Innovative Technology

can you explain to me why a company page that provides no information other than what you can see on a company website is considered encyclopedic and not deleted under the AFD criteria? I am sorry that I do not understand your point in undoing my request. Orgella (talk) 15:40, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Happy to be involved

Thanks for the warm welcome. I'd really like to have a picture updated on the Crystal Antlers wikipedia page. The picture is out dated and certain members have left the band. Can someone help me with that? Awilliamking (talk) 17:47, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

The easiest way to do this is for the copyright owner of the image to release it on terms acceptable to Wikipedia. The process is explained at WP:IOWN. As you are a member of the band, you should also take a look at WP:COI for guidance on editing when one has a conflict of interest. – ukexpat (talk) 18:18, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

New article feedback

Hi ukexpat - I have an article that is almost ready to be uploaded, would it be possible for you to view it and let me know what you think? Not sure best way to do that - thanks!!--Veevivovum (talk) 16:50, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't see your draft in your user contributions so I have created User:Veevivovum/Sandbox for you. Create your draft there then we can discuss how best to have it reviewed. – ukexpat (talk) 18:28, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
will do thanks!--Veevivovum (talk) 19:36, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thought I posted last nite but now I do not see - have posted again at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Veevivovum/Sandbox. Hope that's the right space. Thanks!--Veevivovum (talk) 13:16, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

It's ready for mainspace so I have moved it to user space at Emily Susan Rapp. – ukexpat (talk) 14:43, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Great thank you! One question: is there a way for this entry to come up if a user types in the search box, "Emily Rapp," not "Emily Susan Rapp"?--Veevivovum (talk) 15:18, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I have created a redirect at Emily Rapp. It may take a day or two for the search index to be updated. – ukexpat (talk) 15:20, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
thanks so much, you've been super helpful!--Veevivovum (talk) 16:05, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
No problem, happy to help. – ukexpat (talk) 16:45, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

History of ACQUIRE - Donation

Thank you for your response. There was another individual that also responded and let me know that the history on my web site was "poorly referenced" and therefore did not indicate that the information was "notable." I assumed that information on this game was "notable" since it is already on Wikipedia. I do not reference published works because there is no published work that gives the detailed history that I have created. In the link you gave me I see that Wikipedia does not accept "personal research" articles. Since my personal research was done through years of buying and selling these games and not from reading other publishings, my contribution is not welcomed by Wikipedia. I was thinking that the contribution would greatly enhance the page that already exists on Wikipedia concerning the game of ACQUIRE, but I will just leave it alone.

Thank you for your help; Lloyd - gmcpanel Gmcpanel (talk) 04:22, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Gold Pure Food Products Co., Inc.

You changed the main name for the wikipedia article for Gold Pure Food Products Co., Inc. To just Gold Pure Food Products Co. That is not the name of the company. The name of the company is specifically Gold Pure Food Products Co., Inc. Please change accordingly. Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gtarmanperson (talkcontribs) 14:17, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Please take a look at the naming conventions for companies. – ukexpat (talk) 16:08, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 30 May 2011

Request for your opinion

You previously warned Mykjoseph about WP:NLT. Does this talk page post of his/hers strike you as another violation? Novaseminary (talk) 18:31, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


I am completely new to this editing dispute thing. What do I need to do to continue discussing the problem to which I've already commented? Do I need to re-write the whole thing, or do you have access to the problem as I see it? And, are you one of the volunteers that oversee these disputes? Or, just another editor? Thanx.

Sam Donald (talk) 20:29, 2 June 2011 (UTC)Don

My point was that content disputes should be discussed on the article's talk page. WP:EAR and dispute resolution should be a last resort. Also note that there are no "volunteers that oversee these disputes" and I am just a regular editor like everyone else who contributes here. – ukexpat (talk) 20:32, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

The part about the edits, I think, has been resolved as that particular editor has now let my edit stay. This is about the 4th time I've put it in. It's still there now.

The other item is the fact that someone has removed a "reliable" source that you once had on your site. Since that particular item (the pdf of Blanco's first letter) is being scrubbed from the net, I find it disappointing that it has now been removed from Wiki as well. What do you all do when instances like this happen? As I told the editor with whom I was having the dispute, I DO have a copy of that pdf, but just do not want to put it onto Wiki because of the apparent ease of removing it without any recourse, and then that web page might be scrubbed as well. Do any of you know what is going on in our present political climate? It is very discomforting that this one letter has ALMOST disappeared from any sources. When one links to it, that site no longer exists. Do you all have any way of preventing this type of activity on Wiki? The "volunteer" issue comes from one of your pages about people "volunteering" "Wikipedia is written, edited, maintained, and almost completely operated by volunteers from around the world." Sam Donald (talk) 21:05, 2 June 2011 (UTC)Don

I have not "let the edit stay", I am simply not willing to edit war over Sam Donald's insistence on adding this badly cited material. I've asked Sam Donald to revert his changes and discuss, but he's declined to do so. As I have already explained;
  • a user generated wiki (like "Commons History") is not a reliable source and a cite from it (particularly an unclear one) is no adequate reason to remove other cited material it disagrees with.
  • The argument that the pdf is being "scrubbed from the net" is Sam Donald's own personal original research and theory and is a claim not backed by any reliable source.
  • There is no indication I can find, despite Sam Donald's conspiracy theory, that this pdf has ever been referred to in this article, or has ever been on Wikipedia.
  • The pdf is accessible through the link Sam Donald claims it has "disappeared from", it is simply on a personal website that doesn't permit external linking. (His misunderstanding of this is one reason original research is dangerous.)
  • Wikipedia is not the place for him to conduct original analysis of primary sources such as the PDF, particularly when its origin is unclear.
  • It is very difficult to follow what is being said on the article now, particularly as it now appears to be suggesting that the lack of a cite is evidence of truth.
  • You are, by your own admission, edit warring Sam Donald. Please stop this and respond to my points.
--Escape Orbit (Talk) 16:26, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

clarification on Remote Lands

็Hi, I just wondering as you pointed out that the articles seem, according to your words "it does read like an advert" . So can you point out specifically which part ? The article itself wasn't flag before (for almost 2 years) until someone added external links (which now have been removed) recently. Your advice is very appreciative. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kawionline (talkcontribs) 05:29, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi, My earlier edit on Tally Solutions was deleted, I don't see it as promotional. I don't work at Tally and is in no way affiliated to them. Extension capabilities in common formats and programming languages is an essential feature of any software and listing it here seemed like a good idea. I just mentioned the capabilities and didn't say it was excellent or used promotional language. Answering me will give me insight into how to write and edit better. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Philip.wdme (talkcontribs) 09:07, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Couple of things: first it was written in the second person ("you"); second, it was more like "how to" material rather than encyclopedic content. – ukexpat (talk) 13:19, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks

Hello - thank you for your note. I work for Solae and our logo has been changed to reflect the company's name change from The Solae Company to Solae. You can see the new logo reflected on our website (www.solae.com) The information is unclear as to what specific step is needed to correct the information. The incorrect outdated logo on this page is creating some confusion for customers and consumers.

Best, Jennifer Jenstarkey (talk) 19:18, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for taking care of NomoGaia. I clearly was working too late with too many tabs open and I forgot to do something about it last night. --Danger (talk) 23:48, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: User:Joygf53/ArtistScope

Hello Ukexpat. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User:Joygf53/ArtistScope, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: This is in userspace and is apparently a working draft for an article. If you feel otherwise, please take this to Miscellany for deletion. Thank you. PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 02:20, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

  • I am aware that the draft has not been edited since May, but I have left a note on the editor's talk page explaining that it will be deleted in a week if no work is done on it. I have also noted that I have prevented it being indexed by Google, Bing, etc. If it is not edited in the next 7 days, and I forget to delete it, then remind me on my talk page (if PROD could be used on userspace pages, I would have used that) PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 02:25, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Incidentally, I agree that it does not belong here ultimately, but to play fair, I thought the editor should be given a week's notice - with it having noindex, it won't show up in search results - and I'd be surprised if it could be brought up to spec. If it goes to MfD, I'd be saying 'delete' PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 02:28, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

OK I think I fixed it

File:Judgeoctober1953.jpg.jpg OK, my first image, I used the Template:Non-free use rationale thing. As far as I know I did it right I got three of those copyright warnings, so I put it in all three places. Do I still need to do the reduce thing? Honestly I'm pretty ignorant of what's high res? low res? Thank You Proczach (talk) 21:06, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, now I have something to go by in the future

File:Judgeoctober1953.jpg.jpg Though this and one other thing are then only images I've been itching to get on here; but I do have a large collection of paper ephemera I may occasionally feel appropriate to upload Proczach (talk) 15:29, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Ayurveda (band)

Dear Expat,

You had input into my page, Ayurveda (band), back in March. I have since made deletions and edits based on feedback I received. I would greatly appreciate it if you would take a look at the page again and let me know what you think.

A little history: The page was deleted once for sounding too "fan-based". A question of notability came up as well; one criticism was that the videos were all live (and anyone can do that)...Ayurveda has since debuted their first concept video, "Domestic Bliss". Their most recent album, "H. Luminous" was favorably reviewed by The Washington Post; they have also been favorably mentioned in another leading U.S. publication, The New York Post. Whysosirius (talk) 14:26, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

My take on notability: Ayurveda has a particularly strong fan-base among the Nepali community, both inside the States and in Nepal. Because Nepal is one of the poorest countries in the world with little media (tv, radio, etc.) available, new music travels by word-of-mouth & internet. Ayurveda is big in Nepal; music lovers there have been clamoring to get them to tour Nepal for the last couple years. This year, October 11, Ayurveda will tour there and in India.

My point is, the denying of a page in Wikipedia seems like cultural elitism to me. Wikipedia is supposed to be a global medium and what might not be "fully notable" by western standards may be in other parts of the world.

Feedback on the page itself?...Feedback on the notability issue? Many thanks & Namaste.Whysosirius (talk) 15:46, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

P.S. I did do a considerable amount of editing to the page taking into consideration feedback on the "sounding too fan-based" issue.

Wikipedia notability isn't "cultural elitism" or about popularity or strength of fan base, it is simply a matter of the coverage that the subject has received in reliable sources -- they must be reliable and verifiable. The WP and NYP articles would be a good start. – ukexpat (talk) 02:10, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks.Whysosirius (talk) 14:47, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 13 June 2011

2 days of work were lost and I don't know why, can you help?

sometime after 4pm french time I lost two days of work on my first article as I was trying to find out how to resize a embedded image. I dont know how to tell you where it was. It was a user draft if I remember correctly. I have not known how to recover my work so I had not turned off the computer or left the wiki site out of fear of losing it. The subject was <chateau de la motte, joue du Plain> I may have eliminated the joue du plain part. my user name is mlane78212. I did get a warning saying that there was a problem with the server and try again in a few minutes That was two hours ago. Can you help? In addition, where to I save my work without making an article out of it? I had many references and images I was in the process of adding.Mlane (talk) 16:08, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

See the responses to your question at WP:NCHPQ. We are at a loss to figure out what happened, unless you were referring to the images you uploaded to Commons. – ukexpat (talk) 18:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for welcoming me to Wikiland. I look forward to exploring this enormous world. As to my lose. it was on a userpage. I thought it would be safest there as I knew it would days to input it there and add images and citations. the wikicommons link found my images- thanks. Mlane (talk) 10:07, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Glad you found it, but which user page? You don't have any user subpages, unless you mean User:Mlane78212. – ukexpat (talk) 13:16, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

NPTA

Thanks for putting the db-spam tag on an informative page. Possibly there is too much detail for some viewers, but it is not a commercial organisation, but a trade organisation that serves a good purpose. You may not realise that, or even care.

Now I can't remove the tag, as some bot program has kicked into gear. I must repeat once again, thanks for the well-thought-out effort. DinosaursLoveExistence (talk) 13:38, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

It is completely irrelevant whether it is a trade organisation or not -- the article still reads to me like a huge advertisement for its activities. However, an admin has declined to delete, so I will see what I can do to prune it. Finally, there was absolutely no need for the snarky edit summary. – ukexpat (talk) 13:43, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
I've cut out a lot of the spam. TNXMan 13:45, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
You sure did. Stand by for the protests. – ukexpat (talk) 13:46, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Well it always, although realistically unlikely, helps to have a background knowledge of an article you are proposing to delete. Any idiot can delete pages at will, and usually they do.DinosaursLoveExistence (talk) 13:52, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

I disagree, I see enough promotional material in my day job to know when I see it on Wikipedia. – ukexpat (talk) 14:07, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. :)

Ukexpat -

Thank you for your welcome, and for the links to pertinent information within Wikipedia.

Sincerely, Bonnie Cystalgate (talk) 20:27, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Prateek Apparels

Just a quick note to say I removed your speedy deletion tag from this article. In my opinion it does not meet the deliberately-narrow criteria for db-spam, in that it is largely neutral in tone and certainly not exclusively promotional.

Cheers,

Thparkth (talk) 01:56, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for welcome

Hi Ukexpat,

thanks for your note and the warm welcome. The previous version of this article was very much written like an ad, so I tried to make it more neutral.

Cheers, Michael Roitzsch (talk) 15:45, 16 June 2011 (UTC) User:Roitzsch

Talkback

Hello, Ukexpat. You have new messages at Discospinster's talk page.
Message added 15:57, 16 June 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

... discospinster talk 15:57, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback.

I'll finish uploading the photos of all the sites in the city of Wilmington proper today (including the torn down ones). Any chance you could get a few snaps of all those miscellaneous sites that are given a Wilmington address in National Register of Historic Places listings in Wilmington, Delaware? Do please take a look at State of Pennsylvania (steamboat) which I'll also be working on today. The NRHP nomination form in the references is a model of clarity - too bad the boat's gone! I'm about 25 miles north, but lived in Trolley Square for a year. Smallbones (talk) 15:44, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

I will see what I can do, but it may take a me a little while. – ukexpat (talk) 15:46, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

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Hey, that was the only CC-BY-SA image I could find. You don't think it's better than nothing? The beard, the shades, the car, his recognizable friend...? Waiting on other Flickr images with license requests. Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 16:04, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

No, it wasn't better than nothing, it was next to useless to illustrate the subject. In this case let's wait for a better image.  – ukexpat (talk) 16:07, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Hello - I've not been on this page in a while but have just added information to the leCorbeau wiki article that I began some time ago. To address your concern about the authorship of the article: I have posted the username as Francoisg but in fact I am an employee of his. I am using other artist articles as my template for what to include and how. I believe I am operating under the correct guidelines - everything is factual, neither opinion nor marketing. Also, I have reconfigured some of the article to include in line citation. Does it all look correct to you now? I thank you heartily for your assistance! --Francoisg (talk) 17:52, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

The tone looks fine, but you should read the advice here in view of your conflict of interest. You should use the article's talk page to suggest substantive edits to the article rather than making them yourself. I have changed the tag to {{More footnotes}} as the article needs more of them. If you need assistance with using the same reference more than once, see WP:NAMEDREFS. – ukexpat (talk) 18:37, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

The Freewheelers

--Basvossen (talk) 10:34, 21 June 2011 (UTC)Bas Vossen June 21 2011, Mook, the Netherlands

hi,

i have no idea who or what you are. This is the last moment I will put any time in a group project. I am not a bureaucrat and the way wikipedia works is too bureaucratic and at the same time too much random.

Everything I have added here has been deleted and changed by you. You have no idea what band we have, nor have you ever seen one of our shows. Without any knowledge of what band we are, you put us in a BRITISH TV SHOW portal. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Freewheelers)

All my efforts have been ruined by you. At least should a search for 'freewheelers cello' lead to our band. We are the only group that is called the Freewheelers and has a cello central in the music and on stage.

Now it leads to some Chris Carmichael, who doesn't even play cello as his first instrument. Ilene McHolland does, and she did so first chair in the orchestra of Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis, jr. She played cello in Plain James and opened with that band for Journey, Foreigner, Kansas and Rush. But maybe you don't know those names either....

We have toured intensively in Spain, and extensively in the Netherlands and California. We have never met the other Freewheeler band or heard anything from them, although we have tried to contact them. They are obviously busy with their new projects.

So tell me, why are you trying to ruin my band and efforts?

BasBasvossen (talk) 10:34, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Now just hold on a minute. You have absolutely no reason to come to my talk page and make demands like this. Yes we have an article Freewheelers which is about a TV show hence it has been added to the relevant project about British TV shows. Apparently there is also a band called The Freewheelers. Fine, so there might be. But in order for there to be a Wikipedia article about the band, it has to meet the notability requirements set out at WP:BAND. If it meets those requirements, the article would be called Freewheelers (band), you do not edit the TV show article to add stuff about the band. As you are connected with the band you have a conflict of interest, so should not create the article yourself, but you can ask for it to be created by following the process set out at WP:Requested articles. And next time, please assume good faith, and be a little less aggressive. – ukexpat (talk) 13:32, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 20 June 2011

Thank you!

Thank you for the move and the welcome, much appreciated. Kimabeaux (talk) 20:38, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Tally Solutions

Hi, Thanks for your feedback at [1], even though I have read the documentation on how to edit, your comments have given me insights :) I have made a small edit again on Tally_Solutions, hope it is better this time! Philip.wdme (talk) 06:57, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes that's better (I tweaked the reference formatting a little), but at the moment the article still has only one third party reference, the others are references to the company's own website. Additional third party references are essential. – ukexpat (talk) 14:47, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Great! Editing wikipedia is so much fun now. Sure hope I can contribute to more topics, all thanks to you :) Philip.wdme (talk) 15:26, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

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Landor Associates

Hi Ukexpat,

Yes, I work for the company, but I was trying very hard NOT to be promotional and only state the facts. We've had a number of people specifically ask us to update the page with our historical information. We have a long, interesting history as a firm. I, in fact, added a LOT of historical reference that weren't in the last version of the article. The notes from the last version indicated that things weren't documented properly -- and I documented everything I could. Is it the links to our case histories that you don't like? I will take them all out, I thought I was being useful to a reader, not promotional. I have a PhD from the University of Chicago and I used to work for the University of Chicago Press. I am trying to be academic about this, not promotional. Please restore the version I put up, I will amend it any way you see fit, but I added TONS of historical information!! Thank you Trevor Wade--TrevorWade (talk) 19:41, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but I am not going to restore it. This is precisely why we request users with a COI not to edit relevant articles, because when you have a COI it is almost impossible to write objectively, no matter how hard you try. Please do as suggested in WP:COI and use the article's talk page to discuss the changes you think should be made. – ukexpat (talk) 19:45, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Ukexpat, I just read COI, sorry I missed that before, I read a lot of information before diving in but missed that one. Here is what I will do: 1) Make a note on the user page saying I work for the company, and link to my online bio (I was not intentionally trying to make a secret of this); (2) Make a note on the Talk page about my work for the company, (3) Remove all links to Landor.com that aren't written by third parties. Almost all the information in the article is verified by non-Landor-employee Bernie Gallagher, who wrote his thesis about Walter Landor and Landor Associates on his own. Would you please restore it so I can make those changes? Thankyou Trevor --TrevorWade (talk) 19:56, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

You are not listening to what I am saying. Please discuss these changes on the talk page, that's what it's for. – ukexpat (talk) 01:51, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Regarding a conflict of interest:

Thank you for the expediency of the replies. I was unaware of the rarity in which protections are granted. I disagree however, in regards to the matter of a conflict of interest. We do not seek to promote the Monument in a commercial fashion, only publish up to date information as often as can be done, without the risk of false edits. Although I was not personally a witness, there have been reports of misinformation in the past. While I understand this to be a minority, perhaps a system could be arranged with limited protections-- and our concerns may be allayed. Thank you. --Cqcosner (talk) 22:57, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Supernova Entertainment

Hey there,

Somewhat new to the Wikipedia game, although I do critical analysis and nonfiction research writing on the reg. Supernova (company) does not have a page but should be linked to several other Wikipedia entries (Battle of the Bands, Corus Entertainment, etc).

I have added the page but it has been deleted stating it is too much like advertising. However, all the elements of the page are factual and are not soliciting any kind of business. I had parked the article in my sandbox, and made a request to move; which has now been deleted. I would like to know if you have any recommendations specifically for this article?

Thanks Corecorina (talk) 22:11, 21 June 2011 (UTC).

Intent isn't the key here, it's tone -- even if all the elements of the page are factual and are not soliciting any kind of business, the tone of the article was promotional, hence the deletion. I suggest that you look at articles about other companies, such as Microsoft, Dow, BASF, and DuPont to see how they are written and structured. The important thing is to stick to only those things that can be verified by references to reliable sources, leaving out any editorialising, PR-speak, marketing fluff etc. Find and cite reliable sources that demonstrate that the company is notable per these guidelines. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 14:54, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your help!

Just wanted to give a thank you for the speedy and direct response, greatly appreciated! Corecorina (talk) 14:55, 22 June 2011 (UTC).

New Page Has been Added: please review?

You were so helpful with your above comments, but it seems as soon as I put the page up it was again nominated for speedy deletion. This is frustrating as it doesn't appear that the article was read or reviewed, just immediately slotted for deletion. Can you review the page for Supernova (company) and provide any assistance? Thank you. Corecorina (talk) 14:31, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Hey there. With all due respect, can you please provide a link to the guideline that confirms the basis for your changes to the headings on the above referenced article? I appreciate your assistance in this matter? Best regards, Cind.amuse 16:44, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't think there are any formal guidelines, but nearly all of the biographical articles I have seen on Wikipedia (and trust me, that's a lot) follow this format. Consistency is good. In fact, I would go even further (as I did in an earlier edit) and remove the "Career" heading completely and promote its subheadings. – ukexpat (talk) 16:54, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for responding. Honestly, when decisions are made to revert edits by others, based on subjective opinion, the action generally results in edit wars. Not good. While I respect your opinions, I would highly recommend that you refrain from reverting the work of others when the changes are based merely on your opinion or what you have seen in the past. I am familiar with your editing background and truly believe that you have come across several articles which conform to your ideal. Your work is to be commended. That said, I have come across several articles as well, and work closely with the biography Wikiproject. There are no guidelines that support your revision. However, there are guidelines that provide for caution in changing and reverting section headings. While consistency is good, there are millions of articles and thousands of editors working on these articles. The opinions of many editors may differ from your own. The goal within the project, in this regard needs to focus on collaboration. If you were to review many of the biography articles which have been assessed at GA and FA standards, you would be hard pressed to find a majority of articles that support your preference. In the future, I might suggest making a suggestion on the talk page of the article for which you wish to make changes. I work with a lot of new editors. Changes such as yours are really muddying the waters and hurting the credibility of the project. I'm personally grateful that your actions were not made to the edits of a new editor. I can take it. New editors haven't yet developed the thick skin and generally just tend to walk away disillusioned. Best regards, Cind.amuse 17:45, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Seriously??? Has this resulted in an edit war? No. Are section headings a big deal? No. Do we have a principle on Wikipedia called "Be Bold"? Yes, we do, right there next to "Bold, Revert, Discuss". Has Ukexpat breached these principles? Not that I can see. Does Ukexpat have to go around seeking consensus before changing section headings? No. Is Ukexpat "muddying the waters and hurting the credibility of the project"? Not by any stretch of the imagination. Does Ukexpat have a clue what he's doing? Yes, otherwise I and others wouldn't be intermittently pestering him to accept a nomination for adminship. Does Ukexpat have experience of working with new editors? Yes, he is one of the most consistently present and helpful editors at the Help Desk, where lots of new users post questions about their new articles, etc. Would his minor changes have driven away a new editor? I would be amazed. Is Cindamuse making a mountain out of a molehill? Yes. BencherliteTalk 00:02, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
You're entitled to your opinion. Ukexpat has a history of reverting edits based on subjective opinion and stating that the edits of others are in error and unnecessary (when guidelines do not support his personal opinion). Sure, there was no edit war. However, as I stated above, actions such as those employed by Ukexpat often result in edit wars with newer editors. This shouldn't happen. Does Ukexpat have to go around seeking consensus before changing section headings? No, not when they are not in compliance with stated MOS guidelines. However, when they are made based on subjective, personal opinion, changes without discussing it with the editor are ill advised. Comments made to new editors include referring to their work as "spammy", "gushing", and a "spamfest". Overall, Ukexpat is to be commended for his work. I might be inclined to support him if he were to throw his hat in the RFA ring. That said, I would hope that he would learn to temper his communication with new editors and work with them. For what it's worth, I have been in communication just today with a first time editor that was driven away through Ukexpat's words and actions. She was quite disillusioned. I have provided encouragement, along with links to various policies and guidelines. Including a link to the MOS, of which she never knew existed. Its much easier to learn to work with other editors, providing proper guidance, than it is to abruptly tell them to take it to the talk page. It reminds me of being in... oh let's say hardware store. I'm looking for a crescent wrench and find a customer service clerk and ask for assistance. But the most I get is a vague wave and a statement to look for it over in the corner of the store. Yeah, right. Thanks for the help. How is Wikipedia any different? Is it any wonder why Wikipedia has fewer than 10 percent female editors working on the project? The aggressive nature and turbulent culture found on Wikipedia has overall, been a turn-off to women. I think its time for all of us to check ourselves. Too many editors are being turned away. Retention is extremely low. Is this a mountain out of a molehill? Not according to the Wikimedia Foundation. Respectfully, Cind.amuse 06:04, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

BAND: the Freewheelers

hi, on the page that you suggested where I can ask someone to make a page for my band (have to do that to avoid conflict of interest, apparently) I didn't find any info on that.

So, I am going to ask you, as you are the person that has edited (and replaced) my Freewheeler band article. We are member of the Sacramento Blues Society (www.sacblues.com) for 2.5 years. Before that, we have played at various stages in the Netherlands (Burgpop, Lutjebroek, Westwoud, Nijmegen) and had some reviews in local newspapers. In Spain we were main guest at InformacionTV of Alicante, and we were featured in the San Vicente local radioshow. Besides that, we have played a number of cannabis legalisation festivals, like the Alacannabis Cup festival. Also, there have been articles in the Alicante newspaper 'Diario Informacion'. We have produced three official cd's. Our bandpages are at:

The question that I have to ask the entire WikiPedia club, is: are bands with small budgets, who are without label or record company, not welcome in Wikipedia?

Because, then I will start a WIKIPOORDIA

I hope that you will take me serious.

Bas — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basvossen (talkcontribs) 18:07, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Head over to WP:Requested articles and make your request there. But before you do that, please read WP:BAND for the inclusion criteria for band articles on Wikipedia. If you cannot provide references that demonstrate that this band meets those requirements, then no, it is not a suitable subject for a Wikipedia article. – ukexpat (talk) 18:16, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Tequila!

Want to venture a guess as to the name of a manager at Tequila Avión? --Orange Mike | Talk 19:51, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Oooooh let me think... – ukexpat (talk) 19:54, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Isacc Wunder order review: Thanks

Thank you for reviewing and cleaning up the Isaac Wunder order article. I'll do as you suggest and whittle down the See also list. Also, that document in the External links was in the same section of the frivolous or vexatious article and I copied it more or less on the assumption that its relevance there would apply to my article as well. I'll take that out. Thanks again. Rhsimard (talk) 22:06, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 27 June 2011

Hello - Help desk question

Hi, haven't communicated with you on here for quite a good bit, but I had sort of a dumb question for you. I know you're a regular at the Help desk, and I'd be willing to help out there. Is the best way to get started to simply show up and start answering questions? Thanks for your advice. Enjoy your summer. Best, MarmadukePercy (talk) 00:26, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

The easiest way is exactly that - just show up and start answering questions! That's what I did... – ukexpat (talk) 01:55, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for letting me know. I'll check it out after I nurse a sick pet back to health. MarmadukePercy (talk) 20:16, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Jody Whitesides wiki

Hi Ukexpat,

I wanted to say thanks for being levelheaded in the discussion regarding my page earlier this month. I understand why my page never went public on wiki. I would like a copy of it though if I could get one - it's no longer in my account as it has been deleted.

Thanks, Jody Jody Whitesides (talk) 18:54, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

I am not an admin so I cannot do that but User:Bencherlite will e-mail it to you (or undelete it in your user space) if you ask him on his talk page. I think he also watches my talk page so he may see your request here.  – ukexpat (talk) 19:23, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
You rang, m'lord? Undeleted and moved to User:Jodywhitesides/Jody Whitesides BencherliteTalk 19:50, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
I am much obliged to my learned friend. (Haven't said that in a very long time!) – ukexpat (talk) 19:56, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

SPI

I would open an SPI instead of a UAA report on Zatch rulz and Davidpim. Seems very suspicious that Davidpim would come along and remove a speedy template on an article that was just created an hour earlier.--v/r - TP 19:45, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Gutierrez' biography

Hello, I am sorry if I have caused any problems. I thought we all wanted to have the best page possible reflecting the person's woek and accomplishments. I am new to WIKI and thought one could add and reword to make the biography flow and read better. I read similar biographical articles on WIKI that used similar phrasing with documentation. You may check the documentation, or, if you need additional documentation, pleasse let me know. Perhaps we can work on a biographical version that reflects Mr. Gutierrez' legacy. The current version is not reflective of his life and accomplishments. I tried to narrate as best as I could, documenting my statements. There are quotes for his back problems, but my verifiable quotes and information regarding his accomplishments is being rejected. I do not understand fully, but would like to learn to do it correctly. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maryphillips1952 (talkcontribs) 23:51, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

I forgot to sign my last message. I would like to work with you to have the best biography possible. I apologize again for my ignorance.Maryphillips1952 (talk) 23:53, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I did not intend to offend anyone with Gutierrez' biography edits. I am new to Wiki. I am willing to work as a team to make the biography the best it can be. I mirrowed many biographies written on WIKI and documented the statements to be more objective. Perhaps we can rewrite some of the edits I made as a team and work towards a common goal. My goal was to document his life, work, and accomplishments. The current website does not reflect his work, his discography, and many of the documented awards he received. I would like to know how to best proceed as part of a team to make the biography the best it can be. Thank you for your help. It is appreciated. --Maryphillips1952 (talk) 01:38, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Hello, Sorry, about any inconvenience I may have caused. My intentions was to have the best biography possible for mr. Gutierrez' work and legacy. I have incorporated suggestions and made on the Talk page. I also added recent changes for the team. Please feel free to contact me at maryphillips52@yahoo.com. I will be glad to work with everyone. I sincerely want Mr. Gutierrez' biography to reflect his artistry. Thank you for your help. --Maryphillips1952 (talk) 17:27, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
It's best to keep all communications "on-wiki". As you have engaged with other users on the talk page, any issues will be resolved there. I will add however that the Wikipedia article does not exist to "reflect his artistry", it is supposed to be an objective (as far as possible) description based on what has already been said about him in reliable sources. – ukexpat (talk) 18:58, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your help

Hello: I am sorry to have caused such problems. I sincerely want to be a contributor to Mr. Gutierrez' wiki. In my mind anyone or anything written about on wiki leaves a legacy for mankind. This was my intention. Again, I apologize if I have offended editors with inappropriate word usage. I welcome any mentoring. I have signed up as suggested. --Maryphillips1952 (talk) 17:46, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

I aplologize for any problems or incovenience I may have caused. I am new to wiki and welcome your help and suggestions. I am unfamiliar with the proper terminology. My intention for using the word artistry was to document his life, work, and achievements. My intention for using the word legacy is that I feel anything written on wikipedia today leaves a legacy for mankind. I understand the responsibility you have and respect the sincere editing work you do. Please accept my sincere apologies. I will work hard to meet all your standards. Maryphillips1952 (talk) 18:12, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

OK you can stop apologizing. Just work with other editors on the article's talk page and all will be well.

Thanks for your input at BLPN. I would like to remove the redirect and create a new article as you suggested. The official name of the company is [Paulson & Co. Inc.] Do you think I should create a new article and then change the [Paulson & Co.] to redirect to the new article [Paulson & Co. Inc.] or just use the existing article title: [Paulson & Co.]? Any suggestions? Cheers! --KeithbobTalk 16:08, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

For Wikipedia purposes the title of the article about the company would be Paulson & Co. (we don't use "Inc" etc unless needed for disambiguation purposes, see WP:NCCORP). So, as I mentioned at the Help Desk, you wold edit that page to remove the redirect code and add your text. I would advise that before you do that, you create the article as a draft in your userspace first, at User:Keithbob/Paulson & Co. for example, so that you can work on it at your own pace and then have it reviewed by other users before you copy and paste it into Paulson & Co.. If you use the article wizard, it has the option to create a draft in user space. Also, before you start, take a look at WP:BIO, WP:BFAQ and WP:RS. If you need any help, please do not hesitate to ask. – ukexpat (talk) 16:28, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks UK, for the info about [Inc} in the title. I think I'm good to go now. --KeithbobTalk 16:31, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

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Deleted Talk Page

Hello,

My talk page with the link to Horacio Gutierrez' website has been deleted. There was quite a bit of discussion and notes on the page. I placed information on Mr. Gutierrez' website per discussions and suggestions of editors on the Talk Page. I fear all my entries will be deleted again if the Talk page is gone. I need your help. I do not want to do anything wrong and want to contribute. I don't know what to do. Can you please help me?--98.178.187.55 (talk) 15:20, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you Ukexpat with your help on Mr. Gutierrez' biography. I really appreciate it. I liked your headings, especially the Television. I was able to easily insert his performaces. Best, Mary --Maryphillips1952 (talk) 20:50, 1 July 2011 (UTC)