User talk:Vahram Mekhitarian

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Welcome! Vahram Mekhitarian (talk) 04:32, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

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Reverting[edit]

Vahram Mekhitarian edit reverting is not good solution of this problem. During the disscussion at AfD we agreed that most of text that you have added in this article is only your original researches and not directly related to the topic of the article, and it has been explained then content removed. So, if you disagree with it you can bring your antiarguments at disscussion. But you still don't bring any argument at discusion and only blaming me in vandalism and reverting the edits of other users.--Δαβίδ (talk) 19:44, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Galleries[edit]

Sorry, but that's just a mess. See WP:GALLERY "Wikipedia is not an image repository. A gallery is not a tool to shoehorn images into an article, and a gallery consisting of an indiscriminate collection of images of the article subject should generally either be improved in accordance with the above paragraph or moved to Wikimedia Commons." That just seems to be a far too large collection of images you think are somehow related. Many of them are swastikas - why are they there? It should only have a handful that illustrate the symbol in different ways. Please don't keep trying to force this on the article.

On another point, the website "Welcome to People Of Ar! with a "Petition for Return of the Goddess" doesn't come near meeting our criteria for reliable sources at WP:RS. Dougweller (talk) 15:54, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

September 2013[edit]

Hello Vahram Mekhitarian, and welcome to Wikipedia. Your addition to Armenian Eternity sign has had to be removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.

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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Note - you cannot restore this material unless you can show that it is clearly not a copyright violation and that the source meets our criteria at WP:RS. Dougweller (talk) 16:19, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

You seem to be ok on the copyvio issue, no comment on the rest though. Dougweller (talk) 11:58, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
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I've reverted you for the same reason as before, copyvio. If you replace this I will take you to ANI to be blocked. Dougweller (talk) 20:56, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
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During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.  Mark Arsten (talk) 20:59, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Please don't continue to repeatedly re-add the same content, or you will likely be blocked again. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:22, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Stop reverting edits![edit]

Vahram Mekhitarian, stop reverting edits and readding the same text again. There is already been discussion at AfD, and at other wiki projects.--Δαβίδ (talk) 19:10, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

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Unblock[edit]

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Request reason:

Δαβίδ is IP vandal, you can see this look at the history page of the files

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Armenian_Eternity_Sign_Regular.png&action=history

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Azg_Handes_1908_17_1_Ezekian_Swastika.pdf&action=history

my talk page

commons:User_talk:Vahram_Mekhitarian#IP_vandalism

and history of page

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_Eternity_sign&action=history

He is only concerned with the fact that in every way prevents the creation of articles on "Armenian Eternity sign" (Arevahach) in English, Russian, Armenian and other wikis. Therefore, puts on the removal of files from the Commons:Category:Armenian Eternity Sign, remove content of Armenian Eternity sign article. The editors of these articles are well aware of this vandal.

You are already the third administrator, he is trying to deceive and to block me. It is necessary to block the vandal who only removes article, playing to the rules of Wikipedia - WP:Gaming the system.

Vahram Mekhitarian (talk) 21:36, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

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Copyvio again[edit]

From [1]. And I can find no source saying this originated from the swastika. That's possible, but where's the source? Dougweller (talk) 12:19, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

For Your comment.
  1. Yerevanci edited of the origin of the Indian swastika is not correct. I fixed this part and you can see part about the origin of the sign of eternity from the first editions of the article's (Gallery). This sign originated by itself and is a part of of the culture of the swastika , which was in the ancient Middle East, and where originated the Armenian nation . There are swastikas on the stones and swastikas in cultural heritage Hittites ( Hittites swastika - SS).
  2. In the future, i will be create the article " The swastika in the Armenian culture", a small part of which will be described in the article "Swastika". The materials for this article to be preparing (see category commons:Category:Swastikas in Armenian culture) . In sense, what is possible unification with the "swastika". The concept of the swastika in the Armenian culture (and in the culture of Hittites - SS ), and the concept of the swastika in the article " swastika " different, and merge them is not possible.
  3. I do not often reacted and slowly worked, because I do not speak in English so well and Im new user (from May). And the other hand, the user Δαβίδ periodically remove the contents of the article, and we can't effectively discuss this article.
Vahram Mekhitarian (talk) 13:49, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your detailed reply. As I said at WP:RSN, we have no source that connects the swastika with the eternity sign. The ISO working document is a reliable source for an ISO working document but not for history, and even it doesn't say that the eternity sign descended from the swastika. Hopefully you already understand this, but the Hittites aren't part of Armenian culture. Dougweller (talk) 15:37, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
I understand that I need a reference to what that academic work. But the difficulty in language - in Armenian lot of them, but I want to find a decent book in English. After 1-2 days the link will appear.
Yes, of course, the Hittites aren't part of Armenian culture. but part of the Hittites culture moved to the Armenian culture and the culture of other nations in the region (as sample, decoration of carpets).. Vahram Mekhitarian (talk) 16:27, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Հավերժության նշանի և սվաստիկայի միջև կապը[edit]

Move to hy:Մասնակցի քննարկում:Vahram Mekhitarian#Հավերժության նշանի և սվաստիկայի միջև կապը

October 2013[edit]

Information icon Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Armenian Eternity sign, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Dougweller (talk) 20:52, 5 October 2013 (UTC) OK! Vahram Mekhitarian (talk)

Sign itself is not Armenian and originated from a swastika in this form. It is used by many people, and in Armenia is used as a Eternity sign. Vahram Mekhitarian (talk) 21:27, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
You still need to stop removing citation requests. Have you even read WP:RS? Please do, and explain on the article talk page how the unicode proposal is an RS for history. Dougweller (talk) 05:52, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
I do not removed citation, citation removed Yerevanci (see page history. Vahram Mekhitarian (talk) 08:32, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
I was referring to your removal of it at [2]. Dougweller (talk) 10:13, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
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Your recent editing history at Armenian Eternity sign shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Please note, content can be removed during the AfD, what can't be done is blanking the article Dougweller (talk) 17:31, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

I do not know what to do and how to proceed with these wars. This page is under discussion at the Institute of Standards and the Government of Armenia. But we can not discuss any version of the page, because it changes all the time and looks contradictory. If possible, lock the page in my last edition for two weeks, until the end debate in Armenia. Vahram Mekhitarian (talk) 17:52, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Armenian Eternity sign[edit]

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Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion[edit]

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of two weeks for edit warring, as you did at Armenian Eternity sign. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

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Warning[edit]

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Your recent editing history at Armenian Eternity sign shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. --Երևանցի talk 04:10, 24 October 2013 (UTC)