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User:Vejvančický
cs Mateřským jazykem tohoto uživatele je čeština.
en-3 This user can contribute with an advanced level of English.

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Portal: Anniversaries[edit]

Hi Tonda. I finally finished the anniversaries section for the Portal page – Portal:Czech Republic/Selected anniversaries. Please let me know if you think I have missed anything! Thanks, C679 18:03, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Cloudz, the selection is great, I would add i.e. deaths of Jan Hus and Jan Palach as important milestones in the Czech history (I guess I wrote about it previously) or maybe Saints Cyril and Methodius Day (on 5th July), but generally I think you did great work on the list. Thank you. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 08:59, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

No big deal[edit]

Sorry to hear of you giving up your sysop bit. I would like to suggest that you might eventually reconsider since adminship shouldn't be a big deal (back in the day we used to say it was no big deal) and a lot of good could come of us adopting this approach again rather than thinking of it as an elevated status. The actions of one sysop shouldn't discourage us from being sysops any more than the actions of one editor should discourage us from being editors. But if you don't want to, that's no big deal. pozdravem, – filelakeshoe (t / c) 15:48, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Not a big deal, filelakeshoe. What authority (if any) does being an administrator give you? What does being an administrator mean to you?, someone asked me during my own RfA in 2010. Authority? This is not a good way to acquire more authority. The adminship requires big responsibility and honesty, I responded. When I see the standard compromised with the silent approval of others, it becomes a worthless badge to me, and I don't want to wear it anymore. I can do the same things as I did before, so not a big deal :) It is just me and my own understanding of responsibility and honesty. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 06:17, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Milan Kundera[edit]

Regarding the reference in the Milan Kundera article, it would be nice if only there was, at least, a reference with a title. I thought Wikipedia only accepts those as standard. Luna Edelweiss (talk) 10:00, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

I think that the title of the book is Agnes's Final Afternoon: An Essay on the Work of Milan Kundera, I own a copy. The French edition was published in 2003, see fr:François_Ricard#Ouvrages. Yes, the title should be mentioned in the reference, but many people create Wikipedia with varied competence and I guess the author of this contribution forgot or omitted to add the title. But s/he left us at least a hint, which is better than {{citation needed}}. I'll try to find the passage and fix the citation. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 10:14, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, Vejvančický! Luna Edelweiss (talk) 15:47, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

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Redirect page[edit]

Hello,

Please redirect Achraf Baznani to Achraf Baznani (photographer) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maromania (talkcontribs) 21:30, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Why me? You can do it yourself by adding #REDIRECT [[Achraf Baznani (photographer)]] to Achraf Baznani. But I'll do that if you explain why do you want me to do it. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 12:50, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Newbie: Hogarthianista[edit]

Thanks for the welcome. Very grateful for the pages you left links to. Hogarthianista (talk) 16:02, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Hey Hogarthianista thank you for starting an interesting article :) I see that you have managed to upload the image, great! Let me know if you need any assistance, I'll try to help. Best regards. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 16:07, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Btw, I think that the engraving should be listed in Category:Merry-Joseph Blondel at Commons. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 16:17, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Managed to work out how to list the engraving in Blondel's commons category - eventually. Meanwhile, you've been busy tidying my handiwork (smiley). Thanks once again, especially for the link to Steffansson on the French wiki, I didn't know you could do that! Hogarthianista (talk) 17:01, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Toma etc.[edit]

Nazdar. Pokud se domnívám, že toto přináleží k tomuto, tak mám asi pravdu - ? (k tomu tuctu bloků během 6 měsíců na cswiki jsem se taky dohrabal). Toma byl dnes bloknut na dewiki [1], vzápětí se jistý Bandaska zasadil o jeho odblokování a skončil, páč jsem si toho všiml, stejně; dostal jsem od něj mail, na který jsem odpovědel veřejně tady - to ku tvému vědomí. Čau -jkb- (talk) 22:12, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Jo, myslím že máš pravdu. Ten seznam loutek na en:wiki je zdaleka nekompletní, bloky má ten kluk všude, kam se podíváš - en:wiki, cs:wiki, commons, teď teda taky de:wiki ... S Tomou je těžká řeč, zkoušel jsem mu pomoci, bránil jsem některé jeho užitečné editace a články, ovšem všechno to bylo jen házení hrachu na zeď. Škoda. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 06:46, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

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Reminder (to myself)[edit]

User:Vejvančický/Alejandro Gorrin, http://www.wellingtonphoenix.com/ (on Sunday 12 October 2014 and later).

Hello Vejvancicky[edit]

Hi there thank you for reviewing my site. This article is a neighborhood association it is not a neighborhood. It is an association that represents a neighborhood it is an organization recognized by the city of Sacramento. The other website is the physical location of the neighborhood.

For example Hollywood is a location/neighborhood. The "Hollywood neighborhood association" is an organization.

The article is one of many neighborhood associations in the United states Located on wiki.

Thanks :D Espada12 (talk) 08:16, 4 October 2014 (UTC)Espada12

Hi Espada. I don't confuse neighborhood associations with neighborhoods. I question the notability of the association, as I explained on the talk page of your article. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 08:23, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello[edit]

Ah I see what you are saying, I get it now :) Ok as far merging I think the organization is probably better suited for it's own article primarily because not only is it a government recognized neighborhood association recognized for a neighborhood in the Capital of California which cites the neighborhoods information and citation here:

1. City of Sacramento

2. but it is also featured in a press publication called the Valley Community Newspapers which covers several neighborhoods in Sacramento. It has a very wide circulation.

3. There is of course course references on their website here Tahoe Park Association

There are many other neighborhood associations on wiki as well they have less citations from independent sources are listed under Category:Neighborhood organizations see:

Nokomis East Neighborhood Association

I haven't finished posting there is more info I will be putting up. I am just taking a breathier. It is a new association however they have been very prodigious and are getting a great deal of press attention.

It meets the criteria under "significant or demonstrable effects on culture, society, entertainment, athletics, economies, history, literature, science, or education."

listed under Wikipedia:Notability (web) the association is culturally significant as it is also the first neighborhood association in the neighborhood focused on historical preservation in the Capital of California.

It appears to best served as an independent article under Criteria

The content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself. This criterion includes reliable published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, television documentaries, websites, and published reports by consumer watchdog organizations[4

It is the subject of the association website, Government website, "Valcomnews web" and "Valcom newspaper".

while I understand this is just a rule of thumb either way meeting these criteria is not an absolute guarantee for having an article even meeting these requirements and is pretty flexible. It is a new article I am still working on improving it in fact there is going to be another press article on the site very soon. It is definitely a growing article..

However all that said I am open to more suggestions and input I would be more than happy to comply and add whatever would improve it as an independent article.

Thanks again :)Espada12 (talk) 10:02, 4 October 2014 (UTC)Espada12

As you correctly quote here, the criteria require "multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself". I can see only one independent source which briefly mentions the organization - a local newspaper. The Sacramento official website has a directory of many neighborhood services, not all of them are notable in Wikipedia's sense. Their official website is not an independent source. It is not enough for a stand alone article, in my opinion. But I suggested merging with the article about the park, not deletion. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 10:20, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Vejvančický. Given a recent editing dispute on the Tahoe Park, Sacramento, California page, the following information may be helpful when attempting to determine how to proceed:
  • On 3 October 2014 at 14:52 (UTC), a Wikipedia administrator blocked the account User:TahoePark_preservation.
  • During the history of the account, the only contributions made by User:TahoePark_preservation were to the Tahoe Park article. Many of the contributions made were promotional editing on behalf of an organization called "Tahoe Park Association" or "TPA" for short.
  • In blocking the account, the admin provided the account's user with Wikipedia's conflict of interest guideline, and notified the user that "promotional editing is not acceptable regardless of the username you choose".
  • Six hours later, at 20:43 (UTC) on 3 October 2014 at 20:43, a new account--User:Espada12--posted the first of many contributions to the Tahoe Park page and/or talk pages regarding the TPA organization.
  • Another contributions that User:Espada12 made was the Tahoe Park Association article being discussed here.
Now I see here that you have tagged that new article, citing notability issues.
It appears to me that the two user accounts mentioned above were created by the same user. I am seriously concerned that this user wishes to continue dedicating their time to making contributions focused on promotion, as well as contributions that have issues with undue weight, recentism, and the principle that Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Until the TPA organization can produce independently corroborated evidence that the organization has realized its ideals in a way that has produced tangible results for the neighborhood and its residents, it seems that the contributions that this user wishes to make are best suited for the organization's website, not Wikipedia. Please advise; thank you. -- Sirrebral (talk) 11:24, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
@Sirrebral: It came to my mind that someone from the TPA is behind this account, but usually I review usefulness of the content separately, so I didn't investigate closer. There's clearly a connection between the accounts, conflict of interest and general misunderstanding of the purposes of this project are other issues - thanks for watching and notifying me. What do you think about my proposal (Talk:Tahoe Park Association). Is the organization worthy of mentioning here? --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 11:49, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
@Vejvančický: I have no problem with your proposal, but as you suggest, the key is that TPA must be able to demonstrate that it has done something "worthy of mentioning". To date, the organization, which is very newly formed, has yet to produce any proof that it is more than ideals and concerns; it has not been able to provide any verifiable evidence that public policy has been influenced as a result of its efforts. In a nutshell, the organization is in its infancy, but it seems to wish to promote itself as something greater than its current state. As a resident who stays abreast of neighborhood issues, I look forward to the day that this might occur, but I've seen absolutely no evidence of it thus far. -- Sirrebral (talk) 12:12, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
The article should be nominated for deletion or redirected to Tahoe_Park,_Sacramento,_California#1990.27s_to_Present, as there is a mention about them. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 12:30, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello Vejvancicky[edit]

Sirrebral has been dogging me since I made changes to their website which was self promotional and did not have the proper citations. This is some thinly veiled attempt to say I represent the org when I don't I am just posting the information about the org the same as other posters have posted about associations have. They do not like any edit made to their paragraph about TPNA which I am guessing is the association they represent. Again Self promotional.

This is a continued attack on a new article I created to get back at me from posting to the Tahoe Park website about TPA is ludicrous. Now he is calling for it's deletion. This is clearly a vengeful act by Sirrebral. I have not bothered to deal with them at this point as they are very aggressive and are guilty of disruptive editing, they have shown a lack of website citations on their own page that can be opened to verify their content is valid. The reader has to pay an outside website when you click on their links to citations.

There is no way to know whether anything they are writing is true because of this. I indicated to an admin I would have no problem with them putting up their TPNA info at all provided it had the proper website verification so that people could see the article at the website they were referencing and not just making it up and tacking on a citation randomly about Tahoe Park.

Now they are coming on here to further their case my trying to get rid of my article? This user needs to be banned Unbelievable. So basically no one can touch his TPNA paragraph even if the citations are not viewable?? Again disruptive editing

On a side not thank you for the invite .. I will look into it. My article I just created is a new article but will grow I just haven't put everything in their yet. I really look forward to your help in helping it grow. I get what you are saying about independent websites now as far as notability. Also the local newspaper covered the organization and most of the info was regarding the walk audit which was talked about to help residents, seniors, children and the disabled. Which was covered in the article. Also since most of our seniors are from Russia and do not speak English this organization is key to representing a huge population that had an extra hurdle regarding reporting safety conditions and traffic. That is what the entire article was about and what TPA was doing to improve conditions as an association under history and actions. Please Vejvancicky, do not nominate this for deletion I just put this up. Clearly you can see this is a vengeful user who uses Disruptive editing to remove anything they do not like and is representing TPNA. It is the only area they refuse to validly cite or edit and they are located in Sacramento.

Clearly Sirrebral represents TPNA which is another neighborhood association and that is something they are accusing me of ? ..they live in Sacramento as they have stated in other areas and refuse to allow editing to anything that affects "that TPNA paragraph" which can not be verified which adds further suspicion to their identity. I am now give Sirrebral (cerebral) fair warning to stop. Please do not let this user who does not even obey the guidelines of wiki to bully anything of anyone they feel like by citing conflict of interests. If that is the case perhaps their article should be taken down for the same Espada12 (talk) 22:09, 4 October 2014 (UTC)Espada12

@Espada12: Please don't talk about attacks, vengeful acts and bans of your opponents and focus on content. From what I've seen at Talk:Tahoe Park, Sacramento, California, User:Sirrebral discusses in a calm and non-confrontational manner and I believe s/he is open to suggestions and improvements if they comply with the Wikipedia's editing standards and requirements. Please, try to respond in the same way. While I've found some sources about the TPNA, see for example [2], [3] or [4], I can't say the same about the TPA - the only independent source is the mention in the Valcomnews. So there is a difference. Personally I think that TPA could be mentioned in the Tahoe Park article as another organization active in the neighborhood, it would make no harm and provide a broader information to our readers. But I still don't think there's enough material about TPA to warrant a stand alone article. On a side note ... I think that your organizations should collaborate to contribute to the prosperity of your beautiful neighborhood instead of fighting stupid battles on Internet/Wikipedia. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 08:58, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Alexander Malcolm[edit]

Thank you for your comment about Alexander Malcolm. Grove has 25 December 1685. There is a source cited there, M. Lloyd, Alexander Malcolm, writer on Mathematics and Music, Scottish Notes and Queries, 3rd ser., vi (1926), 234-6, which I don't have access to. I assume this is where the dates comes from. I will see if I can chase up a copy. Clearly there is more that might be said about Malcolm. For example, Kassler cites John Hawkins (1776) (1963 ed) ii, pp 838-841, as well as several modern dissertations on music theory which I don't have access to. Kind regards Apwoolrich (talk) 15:33, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Well, I would trust Grove. Thanks for your expert explanation and work. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 15:37, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
I've added note to the article explaining about the discrepancy. Apwoolrich (talk) 16:02, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Noticed. Excellent. Interesting to see another example of the connection between math and music in Baroque era. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 16:08, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
If you look at my user page you will find drafts of some work I am doing listing the music articles Charles Burney wrote for Rees's Cyclopaedia. The articles on the mathematics of music were written by the polymath John Farey Sr. In the past I have written and published about his son, John Farey, jr. Farey jr also drew many of the plates in Rees. The biographies are complete and I am half way through Wikifying the general articles. Once that is done and I have written the introductions I will post them on WP -- some time early next year, I guess. All modern writers about Burney, Percy Scholes, Roger Lonsdale, etc have commented about the music articles in Rees, but nobody has ever published a listing. Now I have retired and have some spare time I thought it was a worth-while project. Now that Rees has been fully digitised, its not very hard to find them. For my own amusement, I have been finding performances of the music Burney would known on YouTube and there discovered your compatriot Jan Dismas Zelenka, and the incomparable performances by Vaclav Luks and Collegium 1704. Kind regards Apwoolrich (talk) 17:20, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Apwoolrich: Inspired by your post, I found in my library the Czech translation of Burney's travel journals (published here in 1966) and re-read the passages related to his encounters with the Bohemian musicians and lands. He has a lot of praise for Czech music education, which is even today on a very good level (!), but he criticised the costliness, the countryside and the weather :) There's only a brief mention about Zelenka. He writes a lot about the wasted talent of Jan Křtitel Vaňhal and his review of Romeo and Juliet performed during his visit in Vienna is funny and merciless ... Of course I know Václav Luks and his Collegium - Mr Luks is a fantastic musician with experience from the Akademie für Alte Musik Berlin, one of the best ensembles performing "old music" I know. The YouTube Te Deum by Zelenka is a top performance! ... I wish you good luck with your work on Rees, don't hesitate to ask me if you need any help (I admit that I doubt an expert such as you will need my help :)) With my best wishes. Antonín Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 06:35, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Myslivecek Il Bellerofonte[edit]

Hey there! Would you please post a link to where the actual libretto actually is to be found. I need to buy it if possible. I bought the CD set a while ago but the insert was missing. I don't need to buy another copy of the CDs but I'm willing to buy the insert o libretto of the opera. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.123.244.18 (talk) 15:55, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Hey, the score/libretto is available through Dilia Agency, you can contact them here. I'm afraid it is the only way how to obtain it, there are not many recordings or published scores of the opera (actually, there aren't any other available scores, from what I've found, only this aria). The image I uploaded is a scan of the front page from an old book, and the score/libretto wasn't complete in the book. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 14:58, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

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Ladislav Grosman[edit]

Greetings. Any chance of translating this from Czech wiki and expanding? Saw The Shop on Main Street earlier, an absolute masterpiece.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:56, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Yes, there's probably a lot of articles like that on other wikis. I'll try to reword the article, shortly, just finishing watching The Seventh Victim!♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:42, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Can you find more on Miroslav Cikán, probably best to use the Czech database source!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:02, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Ivo Svoboda[edit]

Hi Vejvančický! I made a politician stub since he shares a name with a footballer I was creating a page for, but he seems to have had rather a colourful career. Would you mind checking it for neutrality and obvious omissions? The subject is Ivo Svoboda. Thanks, C679 06:26, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Cloudz. I know the name. A former Finance Minister, he was sentenced for tunneling the Liberta company in the 2000s. I'll check, of course. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 06:45, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Good job and thanks for the collaboration! C679 09:07, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for starting the article and improving Wikipedia, Cloudz. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 09:22, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Seems to be going well. I suppose I could put it forward for DYK if we can get another 400 characters… so if there is anything else you think you could add, that would be great! Thanks, C679 18:50, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Cloudz, I don't think the article is that interesting. Of course, it is expandable, the scandal and his sentencing was discussed extensively by the media, but ... it is now a history, not very friendly to this erring person. The 1990s and the first half of the 2000s was a really dark era of the Czech politics, full of mafias and corruption .. I'd let it sleep instead of featuring it on the main page. ... but do as you wish :) --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 10:25, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
You're right, of course. Not very easily to write a balanced article due to the nature of the reports on this individual. Will leave it alone! Thanks, C679 15:09, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. He spent years of his life in prison for his wrongdoings. That's enough punishment for a man. I don't want to participate in publicizing this kind of stuff via DYK. I'm sure we can produce better material :) --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 08:22, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

"Personal animosity"[edit]

I have been involved in several disputes with TParis and I have watched his contributions quite closely. I have also criticized his behavior in some incidents, and supported him in others. In all this time, I have never seen him display any "personal animosity" to me or anyone else. I think you should retract that statement. Viriditas (talk) 06:20, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

User:TParis and I have different perspectives on this and I respect his opinion. However, after I've checked NA's first RfA and the interaction of TParis and NA on personal talk pages I think even more that there is personal animosity between those editors and I also think that at the ongoing RfA TParis lets speak his personal aversion against NA's style of editing rather than facts and evidence. But it is allowed and it is human. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 08:47, 16 November 2014 (UTC)


A request[edit]

Vej, good morning. I feel you somehow bear a grudge against me that is mistakenly held. My request to you is, please stop! Your post at Jimbo's talk page, where you write "Btw, you don't work for Mr. Chaudhuri anymore? I mean, you don't manipulate those articles since it was exposed in your editor review and in other places " is not at all civil, in my opinion, and is a personal attack, apart from alluding to falsities. My request to you is, please redact the statement and the personal attack at the soonest. Wifione Message 14:40, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

I've seen a lot of your "work" (many examples of your manipulation and subsequent super civil prevarication/obstruction) to be sure that I'm not mistaken, so I won't redact anything. The rest is at Wikipedia:Editor review/Wifione. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 09:36, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, I've volunteered for this evening's noticeboard review. Rather than wade through the long history of this dispute, I think it is much simpler and kinder to just ask you to please not speak about Wifione again on Wikipedia, neither directly by name, nor indirectly by insinuation, except: (1) if you want to file a request for arbitration to desysop or ban him, or (2) if you want reconcile and want to make peace (improbable, but theoretically possible). If any other type of statements are made, this mess will be dumped on the new arbitration committee as part of their initiation ritual, and they will get to sort it out. I have definitely not determined the merits of your accusations; I don't want to spend that much time and I'm not a one-man arbitration committee (though some of my hecklers tease me that I am). If your accusations are correct, you need to request arbitration, because the evidence is too long for the usual assembly of editors at ANI to investigate thoroughly. If you don't want to pursue arbitration, and you still don't like Wifione, then you should shun him. Just pretend that he doesn't exist. Thank you very much. Jehochman Talk 05:58, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
Hello Jehochman. I'll follow your suggestion ad (1). It's not that I don't like Wifione or anyone, I don't like wrongdoing and manipulation and I can't pretend that it doesn't exist when I see it. I'm also well aware that it is just my opinion. I'm sorry for my late reply. I'm terribly busy at the moment, which I realize is a bad excuse. Thank you for your advice. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 08:02, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. I should add that if you want to prepare evidence in a temporary page before filing for arbitration that is certainly a fair activity. Such a page needs to be put to use within a finite time. If you keep it around too long somebody might complain. You also might want to contact DGG and Mastcell or others and get the to review your material before filing a case. Jehochman Talk 12:58, 14 December 2014 (UTC)