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Researcher's Barnstar

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I am both pleased and honored to present you with the Researcher's Barnstar in appreciation for your work in finding sources and improving the article on the 1967 film Adhey Kangal. Excellent work! Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 08:55, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! Really appreciate the honour. Vensatry (Ping me) 10:08, 28 July 2012 (UTC)


A metropolitan area should have a minimum population of 4 million.

— -Vensatry on TfD

On TfD you have said the above statement, Can you please point me to the source where this comes from ? thanks--DBigXray 14:05, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

The article itself. Vensatry (Ping me) 15:05, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
Which article says that "A metropolitan area should have a minimum population of 4 million."? --DBigXray 15:11, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
List of most populous metropolitan areas in India Vensatry (Ping me) 15:22, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
I had a look at the above article and the sources also, the sources do not say that 4 million is the criteria for identification of a "metropolitan" city, please correct me if i am missing something.--DBigXray 15:27, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
I think you missed the second para of The Hindu article. Vensatry (Ping me) 15:34, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

But if only the Ahmedabad Municipal Corporation area is to be taken into account, the city's population at 35 lakhs falls below the qualifying mark of four millions to be recognised as a mega city.


This says mega city, i dont think it means a Metropolitan city, seems like WP:SYNTHESIS ?? --DBigXray 15:44, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

What's a Mega city then? You might find a discussion in the talk page of the article. If Muzaffarnagar is a metropolitan area, hundreds of areas in India can be designated as metros. Vensatry (Ping me) 15:50, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
I am not trying to support Cents here, I am trying to get a consensus for the template, so first we need to decide what a metroploitan city is, lets find some sources for that first.--DBigXray 15:53, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
Moved to Template talk:Largest Metropolitan Areas of Uttar Pradesh: Please join there for a wider discussion --DBigXray 10:26, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

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List of international cricket centuries by Inzamam-ul-Haq

Hi, any chance you could have a look at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of international cricket centuries by Inzamam-ul-Haq/archive1. Zia Khan 00:30, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

It will be reviewed by myself and some others in due course of time. Vensatry (Ping me) 05:46, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

names are the need of the hour

The name of 15 films cannot be called trivia. its a unchalleneged record. so giving out the names of 15 films does not amount to good faith edits or trivia!!Onceshook1 (talk) 18:27, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Please take a few moments to think before you edit. Please keep the encyclopefia's readers in mind - they won't go to the talk page to check. What the editors know is irrelevant; we edit with the public in mind, not other editors. Reference was provided as to which were those 15 films.Thank you. So just revert it back.Onceshook1 (talk) 18:33, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Please read WP:NPOV and WP:UNDUE. Vensatry (Ping me) 10:59, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

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Wikiproject Tamil Nadu articles which need to be featured

I've prepared a list of Wikiproject Tamil Nadu articles which need to be improved to FA-status, either due to the subject quality or cultural and historical significance.

  1. Chennai (currently B)
  2. Coimbatore (currently B)
  3. Madurai (currently C)
  4. Tiruchirappalli (currently GA)
  5. Thanjavur (currently Start)
  1. Karikala Chola
  2. Senguttuvan
  3. Narasimhavarman I
  4. Raja Raja Chola I
  5. Rajendra Chola I
  6. Thiruvalluvar
  7. Serfoji II
  8. Subramanya Bharathy
  9. M. K. Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
  10. Sivaji Ganesan
  11. M. G. Ramachandran
  12. Kamal Haasan
  13. Rajinikanth
  14. C. Rajagopalachari
  15. Periyar E. V. Ramasami
  16. K. Kamaraj
  17. C. N. Annadurai
  18. M. Karunanidhi
  19. J. Jayalalithaa
  20. Mani Ratnam
  21. K. Balachander
  22. Ilayaraja
  23. A. R. Rahman
  1. Chola Dynasty (currently FA)
  2. Chera Dynasty
  3. Pandya Dynasty
  4. Pallavas

-RaviMy Tea Kadai 05:28, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Did you notify WP:INTN. Also why Tamil Nadu is not listed? Vensatry (Ping me) 09:13, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Sorry I left TN out. Anyway getting Tamil Nadu to FA status is going to be difficult. I've found it extremely tough with city articles; imagine how tough would state articles be.-RaviMy Tea Kadai 10:37, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Kalathur Kannamma

How is the article on Kamal Hassan's debut film Kalathur Kannamma? If there is any clarity in it, all thanks to me for developing such a valuable article. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:19, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Excellent work! Vensatry (Ping me) 19:12, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

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Krithika (writer)

Hey what can I do? You asked me to copy-edit the article and I removed some bad prose and repetitive stuff.-RaviMy Tea Kadai 10:35, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm the article is currently a DYK nominee. So can you expand it so that it reaches the minimum count. Vensatry (Ping me) 14:47, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Excellent work! Vensatry (Ping me) 17:45, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Congrats!I think the article has passed DYK-nom now.-RaviMy Tea Kadai 01:45, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

are translations necessary?

I find them very useful, u know how i mean. bcoz this is english wikipedia and foreign words should not be used, until they have translations. but i dont see why User:secret of success keeps removing them. if he ever said "as per a recent consensus", i say the consensus is totally dumb and they cannot overpower WP:Translation. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:38, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)I can understand the frustration of few users to this consensus on WP:INDIC but the fight was basically on what language to choose and how many language to choose for translation, As we have many editors in india who are furiously sensitive about linguistic issues . By the way I am neutral on this --DBigXray 12:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
When I say translation, I don't mean transliteration. I mean the English meaning of foreign word, Eg: Mere Sapnon ki Rani ("The Queen of my Dreams"). Indic scripts can be removed, but English translations never should. Kailash29792 (talk) 13:56, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying, I dont think there is any consensus for such a thing. Its wrong if he is actually doing that, please discuss with him, and ask him to give you the links for such a consensus (if it really exists) --DBigXray 14:23, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
As far as my knowledge goes, the consensus was only to remove the scripts. Vensatry (Ping me) 16:41, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion declined: Geetaanjali

Hello Vensatry, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Geetaanjali, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: It looks like the move might be controversial - please file a requested move. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. — Mr. Stradivarius (have a chat) 15:25, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

P. C. Sreeram

The Madras Presidency was one of the many provinces of India. The provincial system of administration (which had existed throughout British rule) was dissolved as per the Constitution of India which came into effect on 26 January 1950 and was replaced by states. See this. Initially, there were three kinds of states - the old presidencies of Madras, Bombay and Bengal which were headed by Governors became Part-A states while smaller provinces which were under Chief Commissioners and princely states under Rajpramukhs were classed as Part-B states. There were also a few provinces like Coorg which became Part-C states -RaviMy Tea Kadai 13:37, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

I also found someone claiming in some blog that P. C. Sreeram was a descendant of a P. R. Sundaram Iyer, a well-known early 20th century lawyer. But in the absence of conclusive and reliable proof, I would not advise you to add it.-RaviMy Tea Kadai 13:43, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

It might be true as well; I've read somewhere that Sreeram belongs to the Palghat Iyer community. Vensatry (Ping me) 08:38, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

On List of state and union territory capitals in India

I have restructured the reference style, using efn. Also, have added some citations. You can continue to work on it, and add references as appropriate. Hope we'll save the featured status of the list. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 21:30, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Well done! The lead needs a bit of expansion. Vensatry (Ping me) 08:36, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Triple Crown of Imperialness....

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DYK for Krithika (writer)

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Update on list of capitals FLC

The lead was restructured. How does it look to you?

I corrected some errors in the references that you added (formatting errors). I removed two references. The book from UpKaar Prakashan lacks any id, such as ISBN, and ideally should be replaced by better source. I removed that. Also I removed the Webster reference because that Lahore is in Pakistan does not need reference.

Now, the Upkaar Prakashan book supported the Tamil Nadu explanatory note. We can try to find some other reference for it.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:01, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. I've not worked with the "Sfn" format previously. Vensatry (Ping me) 10:23, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
That's ok, I am also in the process of learning this method well. For the peculiar need of references in this list, I found sfn and efn would be the most appropriate method. The good thing is in the FLC page, the editor has told that s/he has no more problem! Looks like we have saved the list.--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:47, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Saw that. Cheers! Vensatry (Ping me) 16:08, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/2012 Indian Premier League spot fixing case

Hey. This nomination needs approval after proposing over 7 alternatives for the hook. Please check it out when you have a chance. Thanks in advance. Khyati Gupta (talk) 04:54, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

WP Chennai CoM

Your opinion is requested in this discussion. --Anbu121 (talk me) 19:51, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Is the project really active now. Vensatry (Ping me) 08:01, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for P. C. Sreeram

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List of international cricket centuries by Inzamam-ul-Haq

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Can you please assess Achuthappa Nayak, Raghunatha Nayak, Bangalore Disturbances and R. Ramanathan Chettiar-RaviMy Tea Kadai 02:58, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Vensatry (Ping me) 04:52, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks-RaviMy Tea Kadai 05:04, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

RE:Brabourne FLC

Thanks for the ping, its been a while since Iv been at FLC so I forgot bout that. Iv answered most of your initial comments, I will be pinhinh someone for help with the sortability issue. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 13:33, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Alright, just wanted to inform you since I modified your text. I'll have a look at the article. Vensatry (Ping me) 17:19, 20 August 2012 (UTC)


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Madurai GA nomination

Thanks for the same. I will keep tabs on the review commnets. Ssriram mt (talk) 21:44, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

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{{admin help}} Can admin delete this version. Vensatry (Ping me) 18:49, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. JohnCD (talk) 19:39, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

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The information provided by me is from a reliable source.It is from the updated website of the city corporation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:55, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

The website had earlier copied information from wikipedia. Therefore it's not advisable to use it. The present population figures are provisional results obtained from the census website. Nothing can be more reliable than the census authorities. Vensatry (Ping me) 04:31, 25 August 2012 (UTC)


Any conditions for this article to be elevated to B-class or beyond? Alibabavum 40 Thirudargalum (1956 film)... Kailash29792 (talk) 06:41, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

There is no definite criteria. It needs more references to get a "B". Vensatry (Ping me) 06:45, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

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Priyanka Chopra

Good call on the review. I was considering taking this to GA, since it is the article that I have the most edits on besides GAs. However, though there is not an edit war, there are a lot of fans adding poorly sourced stuff and so on, so I don't know if its really doable right now. Like a full section on music "career" when she has yet to release a song? Really? It seems to happen with many popular stars that you cannot keep the quality level high on their articles. What do you think? BollyJeff | talk 19:44, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

We cannot stop the anons/newbies unless their edits appear to be vandalism. Besides the few points that I listed out there are more issues with the article. You might go for a PR before getting it to GAN. Vensatry (Ping me) 16:06, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Fleeting Beauty

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Polly Umrigar

I'm not quite sure what you mean. I know very little about him, but would be glad to help in any way I can. Were you thinking of GA or FA? Or just an expansion? Sarastro1 (talk) 18:07, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm afraid not. The best I could do would be the newspaper obituaries which are already linked at the end of the article. I've got very little on Indian cricket from the period, I'm sorry to say. I've read snippets of Mihir Bose's history of Indian cricket on Google books, and that looks like a good starting point. It doesn't look like there are any full length biographies on him, which makes life trickier. What do you have so far? Sarastro1 (talk) 18:21, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
I don't have any published material on him. Anyways, I'll try working on it. Vensatry (Ping me) 18:45, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

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List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at Brabourne Stadium

Thanks for your comments, Iv replied on the review page. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 12:45, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Once again, replied on the flc page. Cheers, Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 06:51, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
And again :-) Cheers! Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 08:50, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
hope Iv now covered everything correctly :-) Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 06:34, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

If u like only...

Pls share ur thoughts here if u like... Talk:Billa_II#Post_release ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 17:00, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

At least respond, even if u r not interested... Kailash29792 (talk) 12:34, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
Seems paradoxical for me. Vensatry (Ping me) 18:57, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
Well, articles like Ra.One and Players (film) have it (the former is a GA), so i thought it wud also fit here. Kailash29792 (talk) 19:05, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Madurai GAN

Can I???? The GAN rules say that the GA-review is a one-man evaluation process.-RaviMy Tea Kadai 16:59, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

You can! I've asked for a second opinion. Your suggestions are welcome. Vensatry (Ping me) 18:53, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
I need more time. I'll have a look this weekend.-RaviMy Tea Kadai 17:56, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Alright! When I asked for a second opinion, another reviewer voluntarily came in and posted a few comments. All those are minor issues mostly dealing with MOS compliance. I wanted a comprehensive review on the content and quality of sources being used. Vensatry (Ping me) 02:28, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Chennai Collaboration of the month

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Reply to email

Hello. As of now, I have no clue as to which is the right place to start. I will reply with explicit detail quite soon. Thanks. Secret of success (talk) 12:16, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Sowmya Raoh

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