User talk:Venustar84

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May 2014[edit]

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Yarrow, British Columbia. You have been warned multiple times not to remove redlinks without explanation. Please stop doing this. SpinningSpark 19:17, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Over-linking[edit]

I saw your note to Vsmith asking for him to be your mentor, and his reply. Then I saw the notice on your Talk page. I also looked at your recent edits to Yarrow, British Columbia. I am not qualified to be a mentor since I am fairly new to editing myself and I mostly concern myself with finding and correcting errors in sentence structure, punctuation, etc. However, I saw one thing that I can mention. In that article on Yarrow, you added some links to words such as "hay" and "corn". If you read WP:OVERLINK, you will see that links are not necessary for words that an average reader would know. Links are to be added for words that are essential to understanding the article -- usually unusual words, names, and place names. Before you continue searching for a mentor, why don't you spend some time going through the Wikipedia Manual of Style WP:MOS, the article on reliable sources, WP:RS, and the article on original research (which is not acceptable in WP articles), WP:OR. There's also WP:BEG, an introduction to editing. After you have read all of those articles, then you can search for a mentor. You might ask for help finding a mentor by putting {{helpme}} and then your question on your talk page. (Put a short heading in the heading subject/headline space.) In fact, you can ask for help that way any time you are not sure about something.

Regarding red links, leave them alone, because (1) the item probably belongs in the article, and (2) the reason why there is a red link is that there is no WP article on that person, thing, or place, and (3) if someone sees the red link, and is interested in that topic, he/she might decide to write a new article, which would greatly add to WP as a whole.

If you need any help formulating a sentence or organizing a paragraph, I'd be glad to help. Good luck! CorinneSD (talk) 20:29, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

(Do you see how I indented one space from the left margin here, using a colon?)
Ok I won't touch the red links. You seem to be somewhat supportive. Are people angry with me n Wikipedia? Venustar84 (talk) 20:38, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
(I moved your reply to your Talk page. You had placed it on my User page. Normally, editors do not add to, change, or remove anything from, other editors' User pages. Comments, or replies to comments, can go on either editor's Talk page (you'll see the two tabs at the top of the page) -- or, of course, on the Talk page of an article. Some editors prefer to reply to comments on the other editor's Talk page. Other editors prefer to reply right below the comment to which they are replying; if it's on the same, or a related, topic, you don't have to start a new section -- just indent one space from the left margin more than the previous comment, using the colon (:). (I could have moved your reply to my Talk page, but I thought we might as well continue here.)
Well, I don't know what has transpired before today. There are editing guidelines that you can learn (I told you about those), and there are customs, or mores (pronounced MORE ays), which take time to learn -- for example, where to respond to comments, as I explained above, and how to express your ideas, suggestions, and opinions (be courteous, disagree respectfully, suggest alternatives, know when to defer to a more knowledgeable or experienced editor, avoiding edit warring (undoing another editor's edit more than once or twice -- Editor A makes an edit, Editor B undoes that edit, A makes the same edit again, undone, same edit third time, undone a third time) will get one or both editors in trouble), etc.). Also, if an experienced editor or administrator ("admin") tells you something, for example, not to do something, you need to pay attention and follow it. If you keep doing the same thing as you were doing, some of them might get annoyed. Don't forget, you can always ask questions if there's something you don't understand, and someone will answer your question. Also, I have noticed that some editors (and administrators) are more stern and serious than others -- just the same as in any group of ordinary people -- so follow instructions and warnings --- don't take them too personally -- they are corrections, and you can learn from them. With time, you can become an experienced editor, too. One way to learn is to read exchanges on articles' (and editors') Talk pages. You can see what kinds of questions people ask and what the answers are, and what happens when there is a disagreement, how editors supply sources (references) to back up their arguments, etc. It's very interesting. Also, you will find editors with whom you share an interest in a topic, and you can edit articles on those topics together. You will find editors whom you find helpful and others whom you do not find helpful. You can turn to the helpful editors when you have a question. CorinneSD (talk) 21:24, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
One other thing: if you are reading an article and see something that you think does not belong there, until you are more experienced and really know what belongs in an article and what does not, you can start a discussion or ask a question on the Talk page of the article, and just wait a while to see if someone responds. In that comment, be sure to say exactly what place in the article you are referring to. If no one responds in a few days, or a week, then you can look for a knowledgeable editor to ask the same question. Generally, do not remove material from an article without giving a very good reason or explanation. CorinneSD (talk) 21:28, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
Another way to find a mentor is through the Adopt-a -user program, either by looking through the list of prospective mentors, or by placing the template {{subst:dated adoptme}} on your user page. G S Palmer (talk) 21:42, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Use of multiple accounts[edit]

As per the sockpuppetry investigation opened about your accounts, it has been determined that you have been misusing multiple accounts. Since you commented on that investigation that you wish to continue using this account, all of the other accounts that were found have been blocked from editing. Please use only this account, going forward.

Please remember that you were subjected to the following restrictions back in 2011 in order to avoid a block:

You are banned from creating categories.

You are topic banned from creating articles in mainspace.

While this is not an official community-sanctioned topic ban, please be aware that any violation of Wikipedia policy in those two topic areas may result in a block from editing, with little or no future warning. —Darkwind (talk) 07:41, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

I'm taking a short break for Wikipedia for everyone's best interests== I think a break for about a week or 2 would be in Wikipedia's best interest. Plus I have alot of sports I'm doing lately. Venustar84 (talk) 20:46, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

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Violation of topic ban[edit]

Darkwind made it quite clear to you that you are banned from creating articles and categories: however, a quick look at your contributions shows that you are clearly in violation of that ban. Please stop before you get yourself blocked. G S Palmer (talkcontribs) 14:24, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Mentor[edit]

Thanks for the request but recently my time on the project has become very limited. Perhaps you could make such a request at the Help Desk. μηδείς (talk) 15:32, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Venustar84, I noticed your comment on User talk:CaroleHenson, whom I helped out when she was starting on Wikipedia. it looks like you have had quite a lot of difficulties with your edits here. I really would suggest that you avoid categories altogether for at least a few weeks and, of course, comply with your topic bans. If you do comply and you do demonstrate ability and willingness to learn in other areas then the chances are that those bans can eventually be overturned. What sort of things would interest you? - Sitush (talk) 14:16, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Yes, it looks like you posted the mentor message to a lot of user talk pages. It seems like you're desperately in need of help. Let me tell you, get some rest, don't worry. And for the Health Issues, I suggest you to relax, not edit until your health issues are resolved. Don't stress yourself out. Cheers, TheQ Editor (Talk) 14:38, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Well, I'd be willing to help now if we could determine what Venustar wants to do. Some mental health issues are irresolvable but not necessarily a bar to editing. For example, we have perfectly good contributors here who are bipolar and, although I'm unsure whether it is strictly classified as a mental health condition, we have people with Aspergers etc. Sure, there are times when all of us need to walk away, have a cup of tea and generally reflect on things, especially if there has been some sort of disagreement, but I wouldn't want to put someone off completely without a very good reason. The topic bans are (or, at least, should be) preventative rather than punitive: they exist to protect the integrity of the Wikipedia project rather than to punish Venustar. - Sitush (talk) 14:51, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
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I agree with Sitush - an incredibly great mentor - both in terms of finding a way to operate on Wikipedia that is not taxing and is enjoyable - and not doing the things that threaten a ban.
Your outreach to others speaks volumes about your intentions. If I can help, I would be happy to do so, too.--CaroleHenson (talk) 20:01, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Got your note on my talk page, thanks, and I'm going to bring @Tito Dutta, CaroleHenson: in here. It looks like you've got yourself three people willing to pitch in with help. I'm in the UK and Tito is in India. I'll let Carole decide if she wants to tell you her whereabouts or not but let's say that with the various time differences you've pretty much got 24-hour mentorship! OK, there will be some occasions when none of us are around but it is not bad going.
I'm proposing that we set up a page at User:Venustar84/mentorship and we deal with everything there. If all the conversations between the four of us are in one place then it will be much easier to handle, and doing it away from this talk page proper will hopefully reduce any tensions. Is everyone happy with that idea? I am off out now because I feel the need to celebrate the very kind words about me from Carole and Tito (well, that's my exuse and I'm sticking to it) but if everyone is happy then one of those two could create it for you and put a link either here or on your userpage so that it is easy for you to find in the weeks to come. - Sitush (talk) 21:04, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Great idea! Yes, I support that - and I am in the United States. I am happy to set up the page, or you can start by clicking on the WP:Red link.--CaroleHenson (talk) 21:11, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
==Thank you==

Thank you. I will gladly accept your help. Please just call me Kristine ok? I answer to my first name in a heartbeat. I live in Canada by the way. Venustar84 (talk) 00:27, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Kristine, is there something in particular that you'd like to start with?
I took the liberty of starting the User:Venustar84/mentorship page to start tackling any issues or questions that you may have.--CaroleHenson (talk) 01:45, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
Well, what about deciding if the category Category:Welsh_people_of_Barbadian_descent should exist for the article about June_and_Jennifer_Gibbons who are twins in wales UK who committed crimes?
Hi, I replied at User:Venustar84/mentorship.--CaroleHenson (talk) 02:29, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Mentor TD[edit]

Re: Yes, I may try to help you. Let me know what kind of service I can provide. --TitoDutta 14:18, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

  • I can see Sitush has already posted here. He may be an excellent mentor too. --TitoDutta 14:20, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Ya, that is fine. Please ask me if you have doubt about adding/creating categories. Thank you. --TitoDutta 16:03, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
  • As you have wished to be called by your first name, I was thinking, in case you want to change your username, you may try here: Wikipedia:Changing username. I am not sure if your first name will be available. Also, if your real full name is very uncommon (like mine), using real full name might bring harassment and threats later. I keep on getting legal/death threats etc. Thankfully no one has chased to my residence still. So, I am still using my real full name. --TitoDutta 16:07, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Hi, if you kindly have a look at the categories of this page User:Titodutta, you may find some information. Thank you. --TitoDutta 18:52, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Well Kristine what Tito said is right. But my suggestion would be different. First of all I would like to say that if you have a severe mental condition then don't use wikipedia. It can cause a severe damage to your mental condition. But if you think that it's okay then I'll advice you to roam around on other arenas like fixing typos, fixing errors etc. for some days or until your full recovery. And in the meantime don't do any edits which can be controversial. After your recovery again start doing normal edits. I'm saying from personal experience of mine (which caused in 2013) and I know how difficult it is to stay away from wiki. So I followed this method and it took me 1 month to become "normal" to wiki. Thanks to God that my mental issue wasn't severe but I became somewhat depressed with the behavior of some user.
But use this method if you think that you can "manage". Otherwise please comeback after your recovery cause you will live the real life not wiki life and real life is the most valuable thing we have. If you are thinking about continue your contribution then don't think much. We have very friendly, good and helpful editors here who can help you. So cheers and be happy in real life. Face-smile.svg --Pratyya (Hello!) 05:14, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
It's not to serve. I'll what I can like type, that should of thing and I'll ask permission with categories. One day at a time. Venustar84 (talk) 06:59, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

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Adoption[edit]

Hi Venustar84, I saw that you are looking to be adopted in the WP:Adopt-a-user program, and I am more than willing to take on the task. If you would like me to become your adopter, please respond on this page. Looking forward to learning with you! ~ Anastasia [Missionedit] (talk) 02:41, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Great, Kristine :) Your adoption classroom is at User:Missionedit/Adoption/Venustar84; this is where we'll do lessons and you can ask all the questions you want. Some questions are waiting for you there to get the ball rolling. We can pick up where you and CarolHenson left off, if you like.
I would recommend putting the classroom on your watchlist to see when I post new lessons and respond to your posts. If you don't how to put a page on your watchlist, it's easy! Just go to the page you want to add to your watchlist and click on the little star near the top of the page next to the "View history" button. The star will turn blue, and voilà! the page is added to your watchlist. If you want to take the page off your watchlist, just click the star again. To access your watchlist on Wikipedia at any time, click the "Watchlist" button at the top of the page, between the "Beta" and "Contributions" buttons. ~ Anastasia [Missionedit] (talk) 19:13, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
Yes, and Kristine, I am happy to help out, too. I just became a little confused about the help you're looking for. If there's something that you want to tackle from the User:Venustar84/mentorship page (which involved great input from Sitush)?
It would just be helpful to better understand the type of help you're looking for from me - and I'll be happy to assist. Thanks!--CaroleHenson (talk) 21:54, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Chat group idea...[edit]

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Hi Kristine, I have thought of creating a discussion group for new users to have a chance to share thoughts about what they're doing on Wikipedia, ask questions, share tips, and get connected. It can sometimes be hard to connect with others, and this might be a way to stay in touch.

My initial thought, but suggestions are welcome, is that I'd start a talk page and those who want to participate - maybe 4 or so people - could "watch" the page and then read and post to the page as desired. Would you be interested in something like that?--CaroleHenson (talk) 09:37, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

It's at User talk:CaroleHenson/Chat group.--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:18, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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Re: Okay[edit]

Ok, that's fine. --TitoDutta 18:18, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

  • Sitush Sir can do it much better than me. You have told "My goal is how to learn Wikipedia in a suitable fashion". I feel, that's a good thought. When I started edited Wikipedia, for first six months or so, I mainly and only edited articled (expanding articles, very fwe articles creation). I have seen few editors, who somehow learn about each and every Wikipedia policy from the very first day. I was dumb enough, and frankly speaking even after six months of my editing, I had no idea what was WP:FA or WP:DYK. I personally feel article expansion and article creation is fantastic way to learn Wikipedia editing. Gradually it teaches everything else. Categorization of articles is an important work here in Wikipedia. I know a couple of users who spend lots of time in categorizing articles properly. I may give you their usernames if you want. Glad to learn that you are interested in this area of Wikipedia. TitoDutta 18:29, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Message[edit]

I left you a message on the adoption page. Take a look when you feel up to it :) ~ Anastasia [Missionedit] (talk) 02:34, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikibreak[edit]

I'm taking a break from Wikipedia for the month of October, but I'll still respond to talk page posts. We can start lessons again when I get back, if you like. Cheerio! ~ Anastasia [Missionedit] (talk) 18:44, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

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"Call me Kristine"[edit]

Hi, I posted a question about renaming your account at User talk:Darkwind, and we can await his/her feedback about that.

In the meantime, one thing that might help is changing your signature like to "Kristine (Venustar84)" which would produce a signature line with this link: [[User:Venustar84|Kristine (Venustar84)]]. You can do that by copying this link into your signature in your preferences ("Preferences" on the top line menu, "User profile" tab (the first tab), and "Signature" section of that page.)--CaroleHenson (talk) 19:16, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Getting input from multiple people[edit]

There's nothing wrong with wanting to get input from multiple people, but rather than asking in multiple places, you can post the question once - in one place - and ask multiple users by adding their user names at the top of the posting, like:

{{u|Sitush}}, {{u|CaroleHenson}} and someone else

and then ask the question.

Asking in multiple places just creates confusion, and it's frustrating for the people that are responding to know that the question is being asked in an isolated fashion in several places. You could post a question for multiple people and then see what the result is... or, if there is someone's judgment than you trust more than others, just ask that person and give them a bit of time to respond.--CaroleHenson (talk) 19:26, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Violation of topic ban yet again[edit]

You are banned from creating categories. Yet you continue to do so here [1] and here [2] you are clearly in violation of that ban. Theroadislong (talk) 20:14, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:People from the Inuvik Region[edit]

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  • What is happening here? When I last saw this category there were 15 or pages, now there is zero article in this category. --TitoDutta 22:17, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
    • Yep, Tito, I saw that earlier, too, and have just been getting clarity about the events lately. Two subcategories were removed which just left 2 people. They key point, though, is that she is banned from creating categories - so they should be deleted. There's already a hierarchy for city/towns.--CaroleHenson (talk) 22:25, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Carole are you and tito upset? Venustar84 (talk) 22:42, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
I'm fine. It sounds like Tito was confused - and I just tried to explain why I did it.--CaroleHenson (talk) 22:44, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Why did it sound "Tito was confused"? --TitoDutta 22:51, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Tito I'm sorry if I made you mad. Creating the category was a dumb idea. Venustar84 (talk) 22:56, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
I didn't get the impression that Tito was mad at you.
Ok, I came up with an idea - how about a list of notable people from the Northwest Territories, by region - with their name, dates of birth/death, occupation? and perhaps community?--CaroleHenson (talk) 23:02, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Tito, I got lost in the order of things, so I'm responding to you down here. I meant confused as to why the category was empty - and why it was tagged for deletion. I didn't mean to imply anything other than that. I get confused when I see stuff like that, so sorry if I was projecting that on to you.--CaroleHenson (talk) 23:24, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
a List for people from Northwest Territories by region sounds perfect! Venustar84 (talk) 04:16, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:People by region in the Northwest Territories[edit]

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a List for people from Northwest Territories by region sounds perfect! Venustar84 (talk) 04:15, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

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Vesuvianite[edit]

Done! For the future, I'd urge you to be a little more careful to avoid possible plagiarism concerns. Text from the 1911 edition of the Britannica should be cited using the {{EB1911}} template or equivalent. Text from newer editions is copyrighted and shouldn't be copied verbatim. Anyway, thanks for improving the article! Melchoir (talk) 18:53, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

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