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Please comment on Talk:Miroslav Klose[edit]

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Inquiring about the Counter Vandalism Unit[edit]

Hi there! I'm interested in joining the Counter Vandalism Unit. What exactly is the training program? How are the students taught? Writing Enthusiast (talk) 03:12, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Writing Enthusiast!
Fighting vandalism is a never-ending task here on Wikipedia, and I appreciate your interest in participating in that effort! You can have a look over the program by visiting Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit/Academy, and as you'll see the key is to connect with one of the mentors there. You can find a list of those as well as the syllabus for what's expected.
The training itself involves a variety of activities, including becoming very familiar with the relevant WP policies and demonstrating that you can differentiate between good faith edits and vandalism. You should work with your mentor to review the policies, examine some historical edits to identify and rationalize their type and have your edits reviewed as part of your "graduation".
In looking at your user page, I can tell you have experience in editing a wiki, but only a few hundred edits on WP itself. While the technical know-how for editing a wiki will come in handy, the most important part is ensuring you have a good handle on the policies. When you fight vandalism effectively, you'll build up your edit count significantly and show the admin overlords that you can be trusted with rollback privileges, which makes some of the anti-vandalism tools (e.g. Stiki available to you. Completing the anti-vandalism curriculum helps build their confidence in your abilities as well.
Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions or if I can help. Thanks again for your interest. Vertium When all is said and done 13:19, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
I just finished reading the academy page. How long does this program last? Are there "lessons", or just is it just editing experience? Writing Enthusiast (talk) 15:59, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
It's a bit of both. If I were working with you on it, I have a variety of historical edits that I present to you and have you review (in diff format) and give me your assessment of whether the reversion done was for a good faith edit (some of which are fine and some of which violate some policy) or vandalism Additionally, there's a period of time where you'll make reversions (which you may already be doing) and I'd review them and offer commentary or feedback. The duration depends entirely on the schedule you set with your mentor and the availability each of you has to work on this with each other (as you can imagine, some people have several hours a day they can spend on WP, others hit it as they can). It's much more about the accuracy of the edits than either the number or speed of them. Hope that helps! (I'll presume you're watching my talk page for now, so will not put the Talkback template on your talk page again). Vertium When all is said and done 16:18, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I'm watching your page. I'm interested in this. I do plan to be a long-term editor here. I've been using Lupin lately, so I have a little reversion experience. Writing Enthusiast (talk) 16:36, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Okay, if you want me to help, list yourself as a "current student" next to my name in the Instructor area of CVU and start familiarizing yourself with the key pillar documents for Wiki that you might not yet have read. If you need a list, let me know. Over the weekend, I'll start looking at some of your revert edits. (If I've been too presumptive and you'd rather work with someone else, that's fine too. Just let me know.). Vertium When all is said and done 18:41, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Can I have a list of those documents that you mentioned? I'll add myself soon. Writing Enthusiast (talk) 21:37, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Best place to start is WP:Vandalism. There will be a bunch of links, and the essays at the end are helpful as well, particularly about IPs. I'll start sending things for you to review later today. BTW, I'm in the eastern US timezone, so am typically more active in the early morning and evening hours. Vertium When all is said and done 13:02, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 03 September 2014[edit]

Please comment on Talk:Scientific opinion on climate change[edit]

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Please comment on Talk:Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa[edit]

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Congratulations from STiki![edit]

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The Bronze STiki Barnstar of Merit
Congratulations, Vertium! You're receiving this barnstar of merit because you recently crossed the 5,000 classification threshold using STiki.

We thank you both for your contributions to Wikipedia at-large and your use of the tool.

We hope you continue your ascent up the leaderboard and stay in touch at the talk page. Thank you and keep up the good work! West.andrew.g (developer) and Ugog Nizdast (talk) 10:01, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Cornell?[edit]

I'm new to Wikipedia, and obviously a proud Cornellian. What did I do wrong with my edits of the Cornell musical activities? Please advise.

Missathena (talk) 18:18, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to Wikipedia. Being a Cornellian is certainly a very valid source of pride, and the content you added would probably be quite informative to any reader of the article. It would be better entered if you could cite a reliable source for the information. This could be an article from a newspaper or though not truly independent, even a website from the college would be better than just no citation at all. It's particularly important since you added text into the middle of a paragraph that had a citation and that citation doesn't support the information you added. If you can find a source to cite, your content would be very welcome. If you need help in adding the reference, let me know and I'll be happy to help. Vertium When all is said and done 23:58, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
When I began I read about references, and though I could use the Cornellian yearbook and the Cornell website those may not be allowed as not being third party, and so not "reliable." Can you help. Then I can get an idea of what is "allowed." I think my additions are as you said worthwhile. I also want to add bios about some important Cornell grads I knew from musical activities not currently in the encyclopedia. Thanks for your help.

Missathena (talk) 15:11, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Sure, I did some web searches and found an article in the Ithaca Times that supported the fact of the symphony and there's a Wikipedia article on the Cornell Glee Club (which has subsections on both The Sherwoods and Cayuga Waiters, so I linked those references to that article. I used the University's website to support a few of the others. As I mentioned, they're not the best references, but they do support it and should be sufficient for this content.
When adding alumni, it will best if they already have an article about them on Wikipedia - as that will presume notability. If they don't, please refer to WP:GNG to ensure that they pass the notability guidelines before adding them. If they are notable and don't have a wiki page on them, please consider creating an article about them. Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help. Vertium When all is said and done 21:13, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Sigmund Freud[edit]

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The Signpost: 10 September 2014[edit]

Not sure what's going on[edit]

I received a message that you had reverted my edit which in turn was removing vandalism. It seems another editor's addition got caught in the middle; however, of the four genres listed, neither seemed to have a citation, so rather than removing all four, I let the insertion prevail. So I'm not sure that either one of us has done the right thing here. Thoughts? Samsara (FA  FP) 00:46, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, there were two other edits, one that created an illegal move and one that reverted that plus yours that was adding the shoegazing addition. I'm not a music expert by any stretch, but the article doesn't mention this style of music at all, so I would suggest some reliable source to evidence that music style. If you want to put it in, I won't revert again. Thanks. Vertium When all is said and done 00:51, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
I have no expertise either, and like I said, the insertion didn't come from me, it came from an earlier edit that was omitted in the revert, but that's probably cleared up now. It was just that when I text-searched the article, none of those genres are actually mentioned in the main text, so as far as this naive reader is concerned, it's all equally unreliable, and it looks to me like the removal relied on the "expertise" of a vandal, so maybe not the best lead to follow. Cheers, Samsara (FA  FP) 01:14, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Notability of Youtubers[edit]

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The Signpost: 17 September 2014[edit]

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