User talk:Victoriaearle

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I fixed it for you (DPL bot always says it is OK to remove the message, but every time you do so a bit of his tiny metal heart breaks). Belle (talk) 11:01, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi Belle, thanks for fixing! I'm ok w/ keeping DPL bot's msg here. Victoria (tk) 14:52, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
You can remove it without feeling guilty (or can you?) Belle (talk) 15:37, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Nah, now that there are comments below, I won't remove. Thanks again for the fix - I was running out of steam there and so it was inevitable that I'd make a mistake. Thank god for bots and friendly talk page stalkers. Victoria (tk) 15:42, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
BUT WHICH AM I? BZT. BELLEBOT. BZT. NO, NOT BELLEBOT, Belle (talk) 16:25, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Very fancy formatting! I meant friendly tps, of course! Btw - mentioned you on Gerda's page, fwiw. And also fwiw, I'll be fading in and out for the next month. Partially because I'll be traveling and haven't decided whether to go off-line completely while I'm gone, and also, b/c well, none of these wars sit well with me, so I'm off to find a good shield and armour. Victoria (tk) 15:20, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
I copied the formatting not really knowing what it did (as you can see by my use of caps when it puts everything in caps anyway! Dumb Belle). Off to look at Gerda's page now to see how my name has been abused. Don't go offline completely; everybody is so business-like here; I like to have a chat; true, you going off line wouldn't stop me chatting but it would be a bit one-sided. (I like that Murasaki Diary page, pretty pictures). Belle (talk) 15:49, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
Apologies for the two day reply - I feel like I'm running in and out these days (well, I am, sorta). I'll try to stay online; plans are changing daily, hourly, so at the moment I haven't a clue what I'm doing when! Yes, I agree - we're all too business-like and it's not a lot of fun. Time for change! Thanks re Lady Murasaki - I'm going through a dusting off phase. It's a pretty article but needs a ton of work still! Take care. Victoria (tk) 00:47, 26 July 2014 (UTC)


Thanks for your comment at a place where I don't want to show up, as involved. You saw "this", but please mind the sequence: I thanked for an earlier comment (in the diffs provided, in Andy's section, not mine) of a user with a clear view. That doesn't make him involved. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Against my better judgement I took the risk to post there, knowing that I'm on my way out to the door and probably won't get back here for a few days. I fully expected to be called a liar - it's happened every time and always obfuscates the issue. I'd like to see peace. I'd like to see all of this stop. But what I'd like doesn't hold a lot of weight. Anyway, thanks for stopping by and setting me right. Again. Victoria (tk) 15:42, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Please fill out your JSTOR email[edit]

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I was wondering if you would ever be interested in reviewing Female genital mutilation. I'm preparing it for peer review, possibly with a view to taking it to FAC later in the year (or even next year). I did start a peer review page yesterday, but closed it when I realized how much I needed JSTOR. I'll reopen when that's restored.

In the meantime, any input would be extremely helpful, even if it's only sporadic or about one particular issue/section. There's no rush; it's a long-term project. And of course feel free to ignore. It's not exactly a relaxing read!

I've also asked Brian, Doc James and Zad for reviews, and I'm planning to ask Johnuniq. SlimVirgin (talk) 22:16, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I would and thanks for asking. It's not a pleasant read but is an important article, so I'm happy to hear you're thinking about a FAC run for it. My availability is sporadic but let me know when you have another PR opened and I'll place it on watch. I'm hoping to be back to more regular editing in a few weeks if that works for you. Losing Jstor was a shock! An unpleasant shock. Any word on when it'll be restored? Victoria (tk) 00:02, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
That's brilliant, thank you. Anything at all works for me, whenever you can do it, and in whatever small dose you have time for. I'm pinging poor Ocaasi to ask about JSTOR. Jake, sorry, I know we keep asking whether we're there yet! SlimVirgin (talk) 00:33, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
I managed to read a couple of section today, but then RL got in the way, so I'm thinking I'll wait until I have a chunk of time to read from top to bottom and focus - or at least try to focus. Yes, please let me know what you find out about Jstor! I'd saved citations that I hadn't downloaded and was sorry to lose them. Victoria (tk) 23:19, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi, that sounds good. Anything you can manage, whenever it suits. I'll be working on it at User:SlimVirgin/FGM too. Re: JSTOR, I assume we get the saved citations back when the accounts are restored, or at least I hope so! SlimVirgin (talk) 00:48, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
You just caught me as I'm logging out, but I noticed your comments at CS and I'm looking at this sub-page. I'm a little speechless! But I'll have to stay speechless because my WP time is rapidly shrinking (I'm pushing boundaries, but sometimes copyediting is relaxing!). Anyway, thanks for linking to the FGM sandbox. Re Jstor, I can't even log in, so I'm worried I'll have to create a new account and that list of citations is long gone. If I'd known the accts were to be closed, I would have downloaded. Anyway, good luck with everything and I'll be in touch in a few weeks. Victoria (tk) 01:04, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
P.s - before I go, I've copied over the comments I made to the CS page on April 11, [1], to my general sandbox [2], so as not to lose them. I don't have time at the moment, but I believe I suggested following a general-to-specific order in the overview. Will review later. Victoria (tk) 01:21, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Yes, it's an astonishing page, and now a new and apparently unconnected account has arrived to make some of the same edits. Thanks for copying your comments over. Odd that you can't log into JSTOR. It will let me log in, but won't let me do much, including no more saved citations. Best of luck with everything! SlimVirgin (talk) 01:51, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
I ended up making a comment to CS because I'd suggested the reorg for that para and felt bad. I'm not convinced, though, that it'll make much of a difference because the subpage seems to indicate a full rewrite is being planned, plans which should be brought to the talk page. To some extent this reminds me of what happened on the Catholic Church article and all the work Karanacs put into it only to see now all gone. And Karanacs gone too! I suppose the lesson is that writing articles about religion on WP has pitfalls - to make the understatement of the century! Anyway, good luck with everything. Victoria (tk) 16:33, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the comment, and don't feel bad! Your suggestion massively improved that section. I think I need to bring what's happening there to talk. It's the time sink in writing all this up that is so depressing. It's such a farce, trying to create decent articles with all the rubbish going on in the background. SlimVirgin (talk) 18:38, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Maybe when I'm traveling I'll have a bit of time to dig into the talk page and into that subpage, but my sense is that you should probably say something on talk and ask for consensus to form before a rewrite occurs. It is a GA and shouldn't have a wholesale rewrite. I'll peep in when I have time. Wrestling with the Jstor issue right now. I didn't know we'll be creating new accounts. Victoria (tk) 00:26, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
I should do that, you're right. It's the bother of having to search for diffs, the usual time sink, especially when I'd prefer to be fixing FGM, though that's another time sink for similar reasons. SlimVirgin (talk) 00:33, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
I wouldn't worry about doing it quickly. Look at this way - at least you're not getting ready to leave on a longish trip only to find out that maybe your Jstor acct will be available to download files (while traveling?) for some unspecified period of time. Basically I've lost that research and will have to restart when I get back. Victoria (tk) 00:41, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
That's a huge nuisance for you! I really hope we can just have the original accounts. Remember to make a list of the articles. You can copy-paste the titles (I assume). SlimVirgin (talk) 01:03, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
Victoria, JSTOR is back up, and the good news is that we are going to keep the original accounts. Ocaasi requested an extension until the new deal is made, then the new arrangement will continue with the old accounts, so saved citations will be accessible. It's great to have it back. SlimVirgin (talk) 00:32, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Thanks for the follow up, I popped in and haven't had time to go through my entire watchlist (won't have time) so this is one less thing I have to run down. Huge thanks to Ocaasi for arranging! Also, I've just made a longish post to CS. That situation is bothering me a bit but it's outside of the less contentious humanties areas I tend to frequent. I did find the Voorhees source and will send it to you. I suggested there that maybe the page needs more eyes: I'm thinking (and pinging here) about editors such as Nishidani, Johnuniq, Alf.laylah.wa.laylah - all of whom I respect for their abilities in terms of evaluating sources. I wasn't entirely clued into the fact that a paid academic is proposing the rewrite, which is the reason I think we need more eyes. These are situations that, in my view, are undermining the project - but I have lots of opinions! Anyway, good luck. You suddenly have a lot of irons in the fire. Victoria (tk) 17:13, 30 July 2014 (UTC)


Thanks for the copyedits, the inlines and the comment at FAC. You know the way you become blind to otherwise obvious confusions? That :) Hope all is well otherwise. The dairy is coming along nicely. Ceoil (talk) 17:46, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome! Re shaved vs. plucked, I decided that's symptomatic of knowing too much about 15/16th high fashions and not really important to the lay reader. But we wouldn't want anyone to think those poor women suffered from overgrown forehead stubble!
The Murasaki page needs work and tidying is a good diversion, but until I actually read the diary I won't get it finished. Tks, though, for nice words. Hope all is well w/ you too! Btw- forgot to mention that the ENA sandbox underwent a spring (summer?) cleaning and there's stuff there that I think can easily be planted into other subarticles, so feel free to dip in there. fwiw. Victoria (tk) 19:46, 27 July 2014 (UTC)


If you ever do get around to writing A Farewell to Arms, I'd love to help you with the project. As ghastly as that book is, it's among my favorites. ceranthor 04:15, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Ceranthor, thanks so much for stopping by and offering. I'll be out for a few weeks but it is a project that's been bubbling up and I'd dearly love to get to. The biggest issue is that a enormous number of sources need to be read and books ordered from ILL, so it can only happen when I have a dedicated chunk of time. Late August might be possible unless I get sidetracked. Once I get going there, I'll be working fairly fast so it'll be noticeable and feel free to jump in. If I don't get going there this summer, pls ping me again. Victoria (tk) 17:13, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
No rush at all... I'll be busy with classes anyway this fall, so we can get to it whenever's best for you. ceranthor 17:17, 30 July 2014 (UTC)