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Proposed deletion of Jaswinder Bhalla[edit]

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Invite to WikiConference India 2011[edit]

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Hi Vigyani,

The First WikiConference India is being organized in Mumbai and will take place on 18-20 November 2011.
You can see our Official website, the Facebook event and our Scholarship form.

But the activities start now with the 100 day long WikiOutreach.

As you are part of WikiProject India community we invite you to be there for conference and share your experience. Thank you for your contributions.

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Indian Collaboration of the Month[edit]

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This month, Anil Kumble has been the article chosen for GA/FA of the month. And you being a fan of Indian Cricket team, I invite to you to join this collaboration and contribute in making Anil Kumble a good article. -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 10:43, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

About Golden Bails Award and Bronze Bails Award[edit]

Hi Vigyani!

  • I think I started both articles. The merge is fine by me. I think the article should now be moved to ICC Umpire Awards or something along those lines, as the "Golden Bails" is one of three awards the ICC makes to umpires.
  • On a related note, I've tried to find anything about the second-tier "Silver Bails Award" in reliable references, and completely failed.

Your thoughts about these matters? Peter aka "World's worst right-arm leg-spinner" aka --Shirt58 (talk) 09:35, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

yeah.. moving the article is ICC Umpire Awards is better. Infact I was also thinking to do so. But I thought to do some research and find out what other umpiring awards exist, before making such article. So for time being I let the article be kept named as Golden Bails Award. I will try to find out if any umpire has got Silver Award. Vigyani (talk) 10:06, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

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I have recently joined wikipedia in Punjabi language and I saw that lot of Wikipedia rules related articles have so far written, which indicates that there not many active editors on that Punjabi Wikipedia . As a new user on pb.wikipedia.org, can I create those articles. Vigyani (talk) 05:01, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

You are welcome to create as many articles on the pb.wikipedia as long as they meet the notability guidelines on the pb.wikipedia. Some of the English Wikipedia guidelines will be different than that of the Punjabi one. Mkdwtalk 06:51, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Indic scripts[edit]

Hi, please can you try to avoid adding Indic scripts, such as Punjabi, to articles on English Wikipedia. There is a consensus that they generally cause problems - see WP:INDICSCRIPT. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 12:56, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

yeah sure.. I was not aware of this. But then Hindi is okay? And I saw regional script used in many articles .--Vigyani (talk) 14:07, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Hindi is not ok, nor Devangari or any other Indic script. There is an exception of sorts for films, if I remember correctly, and there is uncertainty regarding placenames but the safe bet is not to add the stuff. Although the guidance has been around for some time, there are of course many articles that already contained scripts and have not been cleaned up. I don't think anyone is in a particular rush to do so - things just get fixed as and when they are noticed. Hope this helps. - Sitush (talk) 14:15, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Re: Request Assessment[edit]

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Welcome[edit]

Welcome to Wikiproject IPL! Hope you enjoy editing and contribute to the project! Thanks! TheStrikeΣagle 07:09, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

April 2013[edit]

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. In your recent edit to Punjab Legislative Assembly, you added links to an article which did not add content or meaning, or repeated the same link several times throughout the article. Please see Wikipedia's guideline on links to avoid overlinking. Thank you. Gsingh (talk) 11:20, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I just checked and saw that i had made 3 links to same article. I was not aware about over linking --Vigyani (talk) 11:28, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
No problem, I figured you probably didn't know. Also, please don't add anyone who wasn't royalty before 1971 to that category. It is for historical use. No person who "succeeded" after 1971 is considered royalty, they are termed pretenders, this would include Amarinder Singh and others "inherited" their predecessors throne after 1971. Gsingh (talk) 11:32, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
hmmm--Vigyani (talk) 11:33, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
please read pretender, pretty much explains what I'm trying to say. All Indian monarchies were abolished when they decided to accede to India from 1947-49, except Sikkim which did so in the 70s. And any payments from the government stopped in 71' with the passage of the 26th amendment, which I'm sure you know already. But good job on improving all these articles! Gsingh (talk) 11:39, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
thanks for the info. I understood your point earlier also. I was aware that Capt. Amarinder was listed as pretenders, but I didn't know it was different from Roylity. I have also expanded/created articles related to other punjab politicians. Will you look at those also.--Vigyani (talk) 11:45, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Ajit Ranade[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Ajit Ranade[edit]

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Deletion of Harlan Goldstein[edit]

Hi Vigyani, learnt that you've deleted my page since it violates G11 rule. Would you mind letting me know which part of the page makes you think it is advertising or promotional? Thanks in advance! Echo0126 (talk) 10:08, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Don't bother, I've already replied.Deb (talk) 10:20, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
thanks Deb --Vigyani (talk) 10:25, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Tung Chun[edit]

It's very difficult - in this case the article had been substantially changed at the second attempt, but it was still inappropriate. I did block someone recently for recreating the same page repeatedly, but other than that it's difficult to stop them. In many cases, I believe such users don't have much English and don't even understand the warnings. Deb (talk) 10:41, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Freeing Hong Kong[edit]

It's obviously promotional and highly likely to be a COI. I've deleted it again and warned them all about our guidelines on advertising. The only independent reference they gave wasn't actually for this game but for another, similar one with a different name! Deb (talk) 17:04, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

== Speedy deletion normation of Golden Balls

Sorry I taged your video because it was not long enough


Greg Davidson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greg Davidson (talkcontribs) 18:23, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Ayrshire Wikipedia[edit]

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can you point out to the articles you are talking about. --Vigyani (talk) 22:40, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Automatic and Controlled Processes[edit]

Hey Vigyani,

Thank you for your response. I am in the process of editing the page in order to make it more user friendly. I am curious about what stood out most about being too technical when you read it?

Adam Ryason (talk) 18:41, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

can you provided a link to the article in question.--Vigyani (talk) 22:31, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Automatic and Controlled Processes (ACP) — Preceding unsigned comment added by A ryason (talkcontribs) 20:00, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

TechArmy[edit]

Hi Vigyani,

I thank you for your response. There were multiple reasons and objections behind deletion of TechArmy. This included advertising, promotion, vandalism and also related to repeated creation. Some of them were raised by you. I removed all objections related to advertising, promotion and vandalism - rasied by you.

Also, disruptive editing was not intentional but only an outcome of repeated changes (in lesser time). I would like to re-instate the page with your support and also through administrator. Kindly provide some pointers or let me know how to proceed. This page only contains section that can be classified as corporate information regarding 'TechArmy', a software company that was registered in Gurgaon, India. It has closed operations since 30-March-2012. This information is mostly a search term for many people and hence is very relevant matter for search engines, encyclopedias and wikis. Please clarify and provide the right direction ahead.

Thanks, Sumith.

Sumith Puri

Hi.. Sumith. Thanks for the message. In this case of TechArmy, I believe you were the founder of that company. So as a rule you can not write an article on TechArmy due to obvious conflict of interest. We also do not write or edit articles about the organisations we work in. Also apart from the reasons of advertising or promotion, there should be enough notability for the company or say, company should be famous enough. If the company "TechArmy" is actually famous, I believe someone else will create an article about it. If I search about TechArmy in google, it shows some organization in USA and if I add Gurgaon, then I get result about your company, which in my point of view are not enough notable. However different editor have different view. But all in all, since you were the founder of that company, you can not in any capacity take part in the article about TechArmy (even if someone else creates it). New editors like you are always welcomed and are an important assets for wikipedia. I suggest you give your valuable time to lots of other article of your interest.
Regarding disruptive editing, what you were doing was removing the "speedy deletion tag". Only an admin of wikipedia can not remove that tag. Even once placed, I also can not remove the tag, as I am just an editor like you and not an admin. You can improve the article, but not remove the tag.
I hope I answer your questions and sincerely hope that you keep on contributing to wikipedia. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask. --Vigyani (talk) 09:38, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Theatre catwalk[edit]

I made it into a redirect per WP:REDIRECT. Mkdwtalk 00:08, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

yeah, i noticed latter. probably we made changes at same time, so the deletion tag got placed on redirect page. I tried to undo it, but again you did the same at same time. :) --Vigyani (talk) 00:11, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Pages in foreign languages[edit]

Hi. Thanks for patrolling new pages, but "not English" is not a valid reason for speedy deletion (see WP:CSD#Non-criteria, a list which is worth reading). Sometimes (though not often) a page in another language is worth translating, and there is a page at WP:PNT where possibles can be listed. Often, as with Nixe man just now, it's clear than a speedy criterion like {{db-band}} applies. Google translate will often tell you the language, if you don't know it, and may provide enough of a translation to decide whether a speedy is appropriate. The way to deal with foreign articles is explained at WP:NPP#Dealing with foreign language new pages. Also, there is a useful set of templates, many of them bilingual like {{contrib-fr1}}, listed at WP:PNT/T, which can be used to point the foreign contributor to his home Wikipedia. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:47, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

thanks..--Vigyani (talk) 22:36, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for talking and useful advices to me ..Some of the figures that their red mark are very important figures like Saad Eddin Wahba in Egypt and their CV in Arabic and wiki ..But I did not find walking their interpreter in a wiki in English, but a few of them.Thank you heavily on your beautiful illustration style and advice me --الفارس الذهبي (talk) 11:14, 15 April 2013 (UTC)--الفارس الذهبي (talk) 11:14, 15 April 2013 (UTC)--الفارس الذهبي (talk) 11:14, 15 April 2013 (UTC)--الفارس الذهبي (talk) 11:14, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

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Speedy Deletion of Dr.Uday Krishna Myneni[edit]

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I've come to the notice that you've been objecting the creation of article called 'Dr.Uday Krishna Myneni'. It shows : This article may meet Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion as an article about a real person that does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject. Note that this applies to an article about the person him/herself, not about his/her books, albums, software, etc. See CSD A7.

It would be a great help if you provide me the points that conflict this particular article to be a legal and objection-free wikipedia article. I shall correct them as soon as possible.

Thank you

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Hi.. Thanks for your query. The article you created is about a doctor. So I suggest you read Wikipedia:Notability (doctors)--Vigyani (talk) 06:43, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Re aboriginal centre for the performing arts[edit]

Dear sir / madam,


This a non profit government sponsored educational instrument just like any other on Wikipedia. This is no different to any other arts school in Australia except this is for aboriginal people. If this is deleted then so must every university and arts college. Please justify......


Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djagavfonmrd (talkcontribs) 07:10, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Dear Djagavfonmrd, yes I understand that ACPA is a not profit organisation. But despite that the way you have written the article, it appears as promotional. Please understand that not all promotion is for profit. You may not want to make any profit, but you are still you are promoting ACPA. You may be doing it with a good intention but please understand that wikipedia articles are to be written in a neutral way. I will suggest you to read WP:NOTPROMOTION. --Vigyani (talk) 07:19, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Dear sir. - many thanks for the reply is there any way that someone could edit. What I have written and see what it is they object to? I used the western Australian academy of perfroming arts as a template and there is. Nothing here which makes any more claims than they do. This is to represent the underprivileged.

Out you put it back up if possible and change what you object to???


Kind regards from Australia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djagavfonmrd (talkcontribs) 07:29, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


Re Guarantor Loan[edit]

Hi Vigyani,

I replied on the article discussion page for Guarantor loan, but thought I'd also reply here.

The article created today covers a distinct, standalone market in the UK finance industry, Unsecured Guarantor Loans. I actually think it's worth editing the article title to "unsecured guarantor loan", to make that clear.

The Loan guarantee covers the subject of the act of guaranteeing agreements (mortgages, which are secured loans), but not the unsecured guarantor loan industry, which is totally separate, regulated by a different regulatory body (OFT, not FSA)

I strongly feel that the subject is very different to the loan guarantee article.

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flingsby (talkcontribs) 10:56, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi..Flingsboy.. Replying on the Article talk page was sufficient. Anyhow thanks for posting here. I'll read more about this. Anyhow decision to keep/delete will be taken by an admin. --Vigyani (talk) 11:02, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Mark Osler[edit]

Hello Vigyani, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Mark Osler, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Whilst not all professors are notable, deleting the non-notable ones should be done at AFD not by speedy deletion as being a Professor is a credible assertion of importance. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. ϢereSpielChequers 06:37, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

thanks for informing...--Vigyani (talk) 07:21, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

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User rights[edit]

Hi Vigyani, have you thought about requesting the rollback and/or reviewer permissions? Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 07:47, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi.. I have requested for reviewer permissions. And I was thinking to apply for rollback too. I'll be happy to have these permissions but I was not sure, weather I am eligible as of now for these rights. I was using TW since quite some time and that had made rollback easier. --Vigyani (talk) 09:26, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: TransLattice[edit]

Hello Vigyani. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of TransLattice, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: That's not really at g11 levels of spam. Tag it as an advert if you want, but it's not deletably bad. Thank you. GedUK  21:02, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Ged, Thank you for letting me know. I had also bit of difficulty in deciding whether to tag it for G11 or not. But due to its adv like reading and its history (on 16th april it was tagged g11 by me and deleted) I tagged it, with the understanding that an admin must be able to access previous version and can make a better decision. --Vigyani (talk) 22:08, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
G11 is one of those open to interpretation ones. Some admins might have deleted it, but I don't think most would. No problem on the feedback :) GedUK  11:33, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Stormfront (website)[edit]

I don't think that was a good faith edit you reverted. If you look at the article history you'll see a lot of vandalism from 166.205.68.* yesterday. I think it's an IP-hopping vandal. I'm going to warn it, anyway, and thought I'd let you know.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 03:10, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi.. Thanks for informing me. :) . I did not check the page history of the article and only checked the content (i reverted)... --Vigyani (talk) 03:13, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Reverting good-faith edits[edit]

Make sure you have selected the "good-faith" option when reverting mistakes. This would not be considered vandalism. Regards. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 17:07, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

thanks for informing. I'll take care.--Vigyani (talk) 17:13, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks Andrew and thanks Strike Eagle. But it is the commendable job of developing STiki by you Andrew, which has made fighting Vandalism easy. I went through your main paper on Stiki yesterday. Very impressed I am. --Vigyani (talk) 11:48, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
I placed the welcome to stiki notice in your talk just 4 days ago and now the 1000! Good work! But be careful about distinguishing between vandalism and good-faith edits as Marcus pointed above.. Cheers, TheStrikeΣagle 12:00, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Yes, thanks. --Vigyani (talk) 12:02, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks Beeblebrox. :) --Vigyani (talk) 17:57, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Bodu Bala Sena[edit]

The social media external links you removed from the above article has been re-inserted (by someone else). If there is a good reason why they shouldn't be included I shall remove them.--obi2canibetalk contr 15:04, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

I had removed them with the impression that social media links are not used in WP. Another reason is these are not verified accounts. They may be possibly created by someone else or by BBS, we do not know.--Vigyani (talk) 15:09, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
WP:LINKSTOAVOID states that social media links are only allowed if they are an official page of the article's subject. It's difficult to say if those on BBS are official or not. If you want to remove them, go ahead.--obi2canibetalk contr 20:07, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
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Seanharger Block[edit]

Hi. I noticed that on two occasions, you expressed disapproval of the block of the user Seanharger. My main point is that he absolutley had reasons to be blocked, it's not an out-of-the-blue thing. Here are some things to consider:

  • 1. He had been gently reminded before about personal attacks, and indeed gently warned.
  • 2. Sockpuppettry is always a big no-no, no matter what (even if it is just logging out, but it still counts).
  • 3. It wasn't me who even requested a block in the first place. The user Alex2564 actually gave the AIV report of Sean and he ended up blocked. However, I had questions about a report to ANI or AIV, too, due to his behavior.
  • 4. Majority of his personal attacks were on talk pages [especially his], so losing his own talk page is another step to prevent him from attacking someone.
  • 5. It may have been harsh, but he did some harsh things, and was harsh himself, so having some humor like that is OK, its not a P.A.

I can bring up an ANI discussion/community vote about what others think. I'll get an admin to start something up (like a vote) to see if the community supports or does not support an indef block of him. Cheers! Face-smile.svg WorldTraveller101Did I mess up? 10:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

You didn't need to reply me here. You could have just mentioned at admin's talk page. I have only disapproved at one occasion. I can not see your gentle warning (please provide link if you have done). I can only see 'I must let you know that you will not be spending a single second of your life editing Wikipedia ever again'. Does even getting blocked once means that person should not edit WP again? Talk page is blocked only if the abuse continues. But that user has not edited even once after getting blocked. Whatever you call humour is certainly not humour. That way, he could also pass his statements as humour. --Vigyani (talk) 10:17, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
I am not the only person to make this statement (first of all). Second, that is supposed to mean [I'll change it] "chill out and take a while off and if you can't cool off, enjoy real life and possibly try to come back." Does that make more sense? Thanks. Face-smile.svg WorldTraveller101Did I mess up? 11:24, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
An attack is an attack. Some of your statements doesn't make much sense to me anyhow.--Vigyani (talk) 13:58, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

About Sajjan Kumar[edit]

Ive added citations. please expand on why you removed the material? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soniadakota (talkcontribs) 15:20, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

I have replied on your talk page. So reply me there on your talk page. For the next time you post message on anyone's talk page. Do it at bottom. The new message at the top can be ignored. --Vigyani (talk) 15:31, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Kabbabish[edit]

Hi I am a Tunisian Kabbabish so im fully aware of my heritage, thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.19.171.171 (talk) 20:04, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi.. It is good that you are fully aware of your heritage, but on Wikipedia, we always need a published source to verify the information we add. So if you can find such a source, please feel free to add it again.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 02:44, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: Sewersam[edit]

Hello Vigyani, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Sewersam, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The reason given is not a valid speedy deletion criterion. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Legoktm (talk) 00:42, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello Legoktm, I did a google search about the Sewersam and couln't find any sources to verify the information. So I nominated it for deletion. Since it is a possible new piece of software and I was not sure if any of the standard templates apply so I used a custom template. Is it only declined because of the nomination criteria or you think it is notable enough. I have been patrolling pages for about more then a month and I have observed that sometime admin while deleting the page add additional criteria or use a related different criteria. Yesterday also this page had appeared under the name SewerSAM, and was nominated (by me) for G11 as the tone was promotional. Today it was not promotional, so I did google search to verify. Also note that the main editor of the article may have a COI. Btw congrats for a successful RfA :). --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 01:56, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

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Counting systems[edit]

You really did open my eyes with the "12 on one hand" explanation for counting and I am very grateful for that. Working on the same principle, that means someone can count to 60 using two hands: one to get to 12 and then the other to count the 12's five times over. It is genius and, oddly, fits in with the old-style British currency system. Of course, 12-counting gives more divisors (therefore, arguably more "useful") than decimal counting and this still now occasionally is an issue raised in the UK regarding the change of currency made here in the early 1970s. I just wonder if the system you mention originated back in the days of the Raj. Regardless, it is fascinating to an idiot like me and I am already telling everyone I know about it. Thanks very much. - Sitush (talk) 00:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

wow.. thats great, I never wondered about its history. May I should also tell about this discussion to few persons I know . :p --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 00:53, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Whoops, working on the same principle could get you much higher than 60, but it would involve some more detailed mental arithmetic. You could do the 12 on one hand and then start over, ticking off metacarpal etc on the other ... but you'd have to think a bit more. What would that give? 144 + the "spare" thumb = 156? My brain is frying up! - Sitush (talk) 00:55, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
a quick thought, is there any remote possibility that 12 hours system has anything to do with it. We have two hands and a day is divided in 2 parts of 12 hours. And your above mentioned 60 indicates toward a possible connection with 60 minutes ?? --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 00:58, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
(more) 12 inchs in a foot, foot/inch is still widely used in india??--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 01:04, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
The old British system (which existed well within my lifetime) is explained here. The Raj was generally not A Good Thing, obviously, but you'll be well-aware that the legacies remain and, surely, at least one of them must be good! Your mention of time also could be relevant. We Brits had a quite bizarre series of measurements (think of cricket pitches and 22 yards being a "chain") but I am really very ignorant about the subject. I am going to raise this with the Great and the Good and see if anyone knows any more, if that is ok with you? You could end up with quite a few responses here and little orange notices popping up like bullets. - Sitush (talk) 01:09, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
no problem... I will appreciate it. Anyway my talk page is very less used talk page as compared to editor with similar WP experience as me. So few message per day will be good :). Yes legacies remain and we Indians today also appreciate the good things done by British such as Railway and maybe more.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 01:16, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
I have asked and we will see what comes of it. Please do also ask around your friends etc: it's not about building an article but rather trying to work something out, so no policies apply. We're not supposed to be a social network but all rules can be bent and, hey, we're not human if we are not social ;) - Sitush (talk) 01:48, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks :)..--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 00:21, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of 5 paragraph essay[edit]

You tagged 5 paragraph essay for speedy deletion using the rationale: "No connection of title with content, and content is not worthy of WP". Please remember that the criteria for speedy deletion are fairly narrowly defined, and this is not one of them. Clearly, this article is not appropriate for Wikipedia, but nomination under the wrong rationale could delay or prevent its deletion (some admins are sticklers for these things). One might argue that the page is a test page, but one must find a valid criterion for speedy, or else choose to PROD the article instead. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:52, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi thanks for the message. It does not appear to be test page, so G2 is not applicable and neither other standard sections. But since article is rather a personal essay or more like some random thoughts of some school kid. So I used a custom message. Maybe PROD could be a better option, but I thought it is clearly inappropriate so why to go through longer PROD process. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 15:00, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
I actually believe it was an attempt by a school student to post his school assignment ("Your assignment is to write a 5 paragraph essay") on Wikipedia. No matter, it has now been redirected to Five paragraph essay, an article on that standard form of school assignment. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:15, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi... I just noticed that the article I nominated for CSD was 5 paragragh essay, possibly an intentional or unintentional missspell of 5 paragraph essay. 5 paragraph essay is a much older REDIRECT page, and 5 paragragh essay has been deleted by Peridon, citing as test page G2 and WP:NOTESSAY. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 03:40, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
'Test page' is a polite way of saying 'non-encyclopaedic crap' at times. (Only for the first article - not usable for subsequent attempts.) Never noticed the spelling - unusual for me, that... Peridon (talk) 19:21, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you![edit]

Erdbeerteller01.jpg I was so mad to give the wrong barnstar, thanks for pointing it out, it has been fixed. Faizan 13:09, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

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Altered speedy deletion rationale: Sinseong-Ri Read Field[edit]

Hello Vigyani. I am just letting you know that I deleted Sinseong-Ri Read Field, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. GedUK  16:01, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for message. Yeah G6 apply directly.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 00:25, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

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Quick Question[edit]

Recently, I noticed that IP 63.92.242.185 is an IP that Jonathan Yip used. However, it has been making constructive edits to airport articles, such as John F. Kennedy International Airport. Does his edits stay as is, or do they need to be reverted and re-added by a non-affiliated user? I'm just wondering, because at WP:BAN, it says all must be reverted, but I don't want to get too involved with the reverts? Thanks, Vigyani. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 01:22, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Per WP:BAN, a banned user should not edit even from IP. But a very clear proof is need that a given IP belongs to a banned user. Usually many editors have divided opinion on these matters. However the policy is to block such IP's. But I do not think that edits will be reverted if they are constructive. Moreover there is difference between a block and ban. In case of a block, editor can not edit anything (and can be from 24 hours to indefinite). In case of banned, user is restricted from certain topics. For example one may be banned from editing article related to say Christianity, but he will be certainly allowed to edit article about say Islam. In the present case, if you are sure that IP belongs to Yip, then I think best course will be to inform AS, and if he agrees he should file a SPI. In such cases, I just keep a close watch, check all the edits and take action only if there is un-costructive edits. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 01:36, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Nope.The IP has been confirmed as one Jonathan YIP used. JY is site-banned indefinitley. Hope this info helps. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 11:43, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
after replying you, I read Yip's sock investigation and found that this IP was blocked as Yip's IP for 6 months. Now if the block is lifted from this IP, there must be some reason. Probably it is assumed that after say a 6 month period, the IP may not belong to Yip. I suggest you to ask this question to an admin. But mention that you are asking only out of curiosity and you do not have any intention to pursue this. Even if it is proved that this is Yip again, I strongly advise you not to take any action and just leave it.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 12:17, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm going to leave it at KoH's talk. Thanks, Vigyani. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 14:12, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
It is a confirmed sock and per WP:BAN, all edits, except for vandalism reversions and mechanics (spelling & grammar) corrections should be reverted (see the thread). Thanks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 18:52, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

CVU courses[edit]

Hi there! do you by chance do any courses for Counter Vandalism training? If so when can I start, if no then sorry if I am bothering you and if there are any users hosting the course could you tell me where to find them. Thanks! JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 15:33, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I have not offered any such course so far. But if you are interested I can prepare one for you. But you may have to wait, as I will first read little bit about it.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 15:38, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Sounds good! Ill be patient. Thanks! JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 15:50, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
ok.. good... I will ping u when I am ready.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 15:52, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Dru yoga[edit]

Hello Vigyani. Working on the Dutch equivalent of Dru yoga, on which I've got my hands full (of sorts), I noted the article over here. And the fact you nominated it for speedy deletion. It wasn't much to begin with and it's getting worse. Just wanted to let you know. Regards, Sander1453 (talk) 11:00, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks for the message. I had nominated Dru yoga for speedy deletion during my NewPagePetrol (NPP), in which several New Page Patroller, check the freshly created pages for obvious errors. Since this article when created had only one line and that also did not put much light on Dru Yoga, so I nominated it for deletion. I myself does not have any idea about Dru Yoga. I nominate several articles, sometime 20 articles for deletion in a day, and I do not usually keep a track of the article, after decision about speedy deletion is taken. But do not worry, thats how WP works, sometime a new page stays poor for a long period of time, before someone really pay attention and make it good.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 13:04, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for the answer. Usually I don't do NewPages, but I do patrol Recent Changes on the Dutch WP. Occasionally I take part in discussions about deletion (normal speed - 14 days discussion time). Nominated for speedy deletion once or twice (speedy=handled by sysop, may take 10 mins to an hour). Btw, the article's not just poor, it's biased. Someone thinks it's a vehicle for discrediting the organisation behind Dru yoga. Sander1453 (talk) 23:50, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

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Biography[edit]

The biography has been created, click on the link on my talk page or visit my user page for more info about me. Thanks JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 00:49, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Um... I read the article(s) and I put in the Yes check.svg Done symbol, we can continue whenever you are ready. Cheers JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 20:51, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

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How to nominate an image copied from internet and uploaded on commons as "own work" for deletion. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 11:32, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

You may wish to see their speedy deletions.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 13:05, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

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A cookie for you![edit]

Choco chip cookie.png Thanx for your message, sorry, it was my first article! I just did the necessary! Thanks a lot! Malice2013 (talk) 13:44, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks :) --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 13:54, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

A beer for you![edit]

Export hell seidel steiner.png For your help in Sholay. Dwaipayan (talk) 15:21, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks :). I am trying to learn FA/GA processes. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 15:23, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Great, we need more India-related editors in FAC (there are many in GA regularly). FAC process is significantly more stringent than GA, and the most difficult part for us, Indian editors, is writing a good tight prose. Have you proposed any article for GA so far?--Dwaipayan (talk) 20:15, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
No, I have not proposed any GA. I became active in Feb 2013 and mostly have been focusing on creating new articles or expanding notable stubs. I think I will continue to do so as of now. Since your Tripura nominations, I have been studying FA process and I hope I can to help a bit during each nomination.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 22:29, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Absolutely, that will be of great help. Your processing of Sholay in word processor was very helpful. Hyderabad, India is also in FAC currently. Although I have been involved in that article, I have not been really able to go over it lately. If you have time, you may be interested to run it on iWork.--Dwaipayan (talk) 13:37, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
I have scanned it and corrected few spells. Some of the words appears to be from Indian english, with no direct British english substitute.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 18:31, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. Now, Priyanka Chopra is in FAC! Can you do yet another scan?--Dwaipayan (talk) 23:58, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Partial editing[edit]

U said every truth need not be here. Also, its not other name for Aishwarya like Jiah Khan was the other name for Nafeesa Khan. Just accept the reality even if u find it hard to digest that Abhishek's wife is much much more successful than him. (talk) 18:56, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

How does it matter to me, which is more famous? In case of Aishwarya, probably I don't need to revert your edit, as the article is already titled with that name i.e. with Bachchan surname. In case of Abhishek, the statement you are adding is unsourced. Kindly read WP:POV.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 13:33, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

The page is titled Aishwarya Rai. Dear Vigyani, yourself being a woman, why are you being so supposrtive of such things. Wikipedia is full of sentences without proofs. In fact, it does not require a proof that Aishwarya Rai is known worldwide, unlike Abhishek. Although social websites are not the only proofs, but if you simply try checking them out, Aishwarya has more foreign fan following than Indians, while Abhishek even hardly has such a page! Dear Vigyani, just let the truth be, without thinking whether which truth is required and which not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aish.ego (talkcontribs) 13:39, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

See the page title is Aishwarya Rai Bachchan. It is bit amusing to me, and I will like to know, how do you know that I am woman. Plus how does it matter whether I am woman or man. We edit WP based upon facts, not our gender. WP needs proof for everything. If there is some statement, which is there without proof, it can be removed. I know that Aishwariya is very famous, much more then Abhishek, no doubt about that. But as I previously mention, the statement you adding is unsourced and not from a neutral point of view. And to show also that Ashwariya is very famous it needs proofs, which are anyhow already present. Also pages on social networking websites are not considered reliable source on WP. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 13:49, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Vigyani doesnt sound a guy to me. It matters if u r a man or woman coz certain men have the male ego n cant stand men appear inferior to their women. Now u wnt me to add sources to the first line of thhis actor's article to prove he is not as famos as his wife?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aish.ego (talkcontribs) 13:55, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

do you know what Vigyani means? On the matter of ego, please read WP:AGF. In short we assume that everyone edits without any bias as you are assuming. Yes, source will required for your statement but still I think it is a POV statement. First you kindly read about WP:AGF and WP:POV. I am going to sleep now (I live in UTC+9 timezone) and will check your further messages in the morning.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 14:18, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

The following sentences have no proof either..Although highly regarded for her acting abilities, Jolie's films to date had often not appealed to a wide audience (angelina jolie) Sonam kapoor -She is known as a fashionista; she has been getting various accolades for her unique sense of style rather than her films. is this sentence not letting her down. The pages that say abhishek lags behind are available on google.Search this on google-Aishwarya more popular than abhishek. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aish.ego (talkcontribs) 16:25, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

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I used it to create an article, thanx for ur editMurrallli (talk) 15:06, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi.. Okay, you could have better done it from 2011 world cup, as poonam was was still related in some way. Otherwise you just need to type the new article name in searchbox and wikipedia will prompt you to create a new page. Plus you can always use your sandbox to create redlinks.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 15:11, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

CVUA[edit]

Did you forget? Face-smile.svg --PrabashWhat? 00:41, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

I was kind of busy and couldn't get into the mood much. Will try to check it today before night.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 01:15, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Its okay take as much time as you want. --PrabashWhat? 01:21, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Pappu[edit]

Is this ok or is it also a blp violation. It isn't referenced. --regentspark (comment) 13:25, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

IMO it is a violation. This Pappu thing has been added into article Rahul Gandhi also today by Neo (with references). I was thinking to discuss at WT:IN. It is true that he has been called Pappu by few people in last couple of months, but it is not his nickname, as a general use. If we go by that trend, we may then need to add Feku for Modi--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 13:54, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
I am moving it to WT:IN--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 13:55, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Good idea. I'll take a look.--regentspark (comment) 14:17, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Amrinder Gill[edit]

Kindly add the latest movies like Tu mera 22 and the role of Inspector harnek singh in the movie that was appreciated according to the format stated.

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ok--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 14:58, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
Tu mera 22 is already there, Inspected Harnek singh is movie or his character name? He was not a inspected in Tu mera 22 mein tera 22, because I have seen the movie.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 15:02, 21 June 2013 (UTC)


Inspector Harnek Singh was a special character played by Amrinder Gill in Tu Mera 22 Main Tera 22. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wolf2009 (talkcontribs) 16:22, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 16:27, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hey u want is the problem with you...I am a DIT official... I am changing and trying to improve this section.... You are requested not to mess with it... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.98.218.150 (talk) 08:25, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi, you are adding highly promotional material into the article. In simple words, you are writing the article as if it is your own website. Wikipedia articles are written from a neutral 3rd person point of view. So thats why I am removing your additions. Please read WP:COI, if you want to add any information then please request it at the article talk page.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 08:29, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

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Word processor scan for Rani Mukerji[edit]

Hi! Perhaps you have noticed that Rani Mukerji is in fac. Can you please, once again, run the word processor scanning (that you did for other fac articles earlier)? Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:37, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

I knew about Rani Mukerji in FAC and had done a scan few days back, but didn't find anything. However I assumed Indian english spellings to be same as British english. Lots of article I find these days are tagged with Indian english, but I couldn't find any extensive word list or dictionary. Do you know any such source.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 16:44, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the scan. Well, Indian English is an ill-defined entity. Ideally, articles should not be tagged with Indian English template, and use British English consistently. The problem of the blurry definition of Indian English was previously discussed in Indian notice board talk page, and the outcome of such discussion was nothing solid. The safest way is to follow British English.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:14, 4 July 2013 (UTC)


stop following me[edit]

ARe you junior bachchan's PA?? Evrytym u revert my edits, kindly explain aish.ego (talk) 10:14, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

1. Your edit had broken the syntax of the article. This is not your mistake. You tried to use visual editor, and I think that inserted some weird code in the article. You can go to history and look at the version you created and will see what I am talking about. So this was the reason I reverted.
2. I will ask you to be civil with other editor. I have given you some useful advice previously also. Accusing other editors like you do me is not good and you maybe blocked for continuing this kind of behavior. I am not reporting your behavior anywhere with the hope that your understand what I am saying.
3. I am not following you, the page you edit is on my watch list. Several regular editor watch hundreds or sometime thousands of pages, which alert us when anyone makes an edit.
4. There is another problem with you. You carry a bias against males. Putting Aishwariya's name behind Abhishek is both silly and childish (although this is not the reason I reverted). Which makes me wonder, if you are some 12-13 year old girl. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 10:50, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Haha, no I am a 21 year old writer, and my first book is soon going to be published. Moreover vigyani m sure you will change your last name after marriage if u haven't yet. I know now u wil say OMG ! She talks personal!! How dare. I have added reerences this time by the way. C U aish.ego (talk) 10:56, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Did you pay attention to what I mentioned above, point number 2 and 4? --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 11:06, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
You noticed my reply is complete. That i have references, and that i am 21, and that i know u will find it a personal message :D Thanks vigyani aish.ego (talk) 11:11, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I did not had problem with your edit as such. So no need to talk about references. But other editors may have problem with your latest edits, so someone could revert those changes. What I want is to you to pay attention to WP:NPA and WP:NPOV. Please read these two articles.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 11:18, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Yeah sure... will sort of read them..Hey tell me what problem can one have wid dez edits now?? aish.ego (talk) 11:23, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Yes, please read those carefully if you are really interested in continuing on Wikipedia. It is for your own good. Also please WP:AGF. I know it may be bit of work for you but please read them. Maybe first just read the introduction of each article. That won't take much time. Now about your edit. You have mentioned that Abhishek is not considered a successful actor and cited a blog. Before you think that blog is on timesofindia website, a blog is blog and rarely used as a source. In the present case it is more like a opinion of the author and there also the very first line of the blog does not support your edit. The author of the blog terms him as successful but underachiever. Now I have paid more attention to your this edit, so I think myself will go ahead and revert it. So if want to change it or want to added some other reference, you do it soon.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 11:40, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Oh sure, very soon dearo.. dere isn't a shortcoming of suchlikes , will notify u asap, right now got much better works aish.ego (talk) 11:52, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

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Allegation of Mumbai Attack[edit]

Hi Vigyani, i noticed that you deleted my contribution for citing the allegation of involvement of Indian Government involvement in commanding the attack and killing of innocent people. i provided the source from Indian daily newspaper "Times of India". Can you please advice what was wrong in my contribution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ali aff (talkcontribs) 07:47, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi, your edit has two aspects.
1) The TOI references says "a former home ministry officer has alleged that a member of the CBI-SIT team had accused incumbent governments of "orchestrating" the terror attack on Parliament and the 26/11 carnage in Mumbai" So it is A alleging that B had accused. Usually allegations are not to be included in the article until they received a wide spread media coverage. Which is not the case. Plus it is an allegation about allegation. Which makes it more like a fringe theory.
2) You had something about Indian government propaganda which I fail to see in the reference.
Now, if you came here to discuss with me then you should have not gone on article and made that change your self again. This is called edit warring WP:EW, and is not permitted. The best course for you is to open a thread at talk page of the article and present your point of view there. Other concerned editors will also pitch in and a consensus can be formed about what to keep and what no to.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 07:57, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello Vigyani - We have now discussed the matter extensively on article's talk page., Has it reached the conclusion, can we add my contribution to the article?--Ali aff (talk) 16:19, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi, no conclusion doesn't mean that it can be added. What we need is more eyes on it. Can you leave its link at WT:IN so that other editors can have look. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 23:10, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I had not made Sitala Mata[edit]

I had not created the page Sitala Mata I had just corrected spelling — Preceding unsigned comment added by Venkatsaikrishnakumar (talkcontribs) 16:48, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Sitala Mata material copied issue[edit]

If that is so firsts we have to in Wikipedia the accutul spell is Shitala as was created by Kanatonian (talk | contribs)‎ in 20 April 2006‎ at 14:28, . . (1,170 bytes) (+1,170)‎ . . (Created Article) (thank) u can see in http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shitala&offset=20100123211239&limit=500&action=history and i had saw a wrong spell as Sitala Mata and i had edited it same material in both pages and after that i had edited spell. Even today by opening the link Sitala Mata Shitala is opening in Wikipedia. and as per the comment contents of Sitala Mata, and it appears to include material copied directly from http://tourism-independent-india.blogspot.com/2011/03/shitala-mata-hindu-goddess-widely.html. u can see that this page is created in 2011 where as in Wikipedia this is begin existed from 20 April 2006‎. for more information you can check that in http://wschange.com/. And more or less i had completely observed the link http://tourism-independent-india.blogspot.com/2011/03/shitala-mata-hindu-goddess-widely.html i had not saw any where about the copy rights so it is clear that the owner of site had not did any copy rights and he had taken material from Wikipedia and change spelling if your are interested please contact owner of the owner of the http://tourism-independent-india.blogspot.com/2011/03/shitala-mata-hindu-goddess-widely.html and Kanatonian (talk | contribs) do-not involve me in this issue — Preceding unsigned comment added by Venkatsaikrishnakumar (talkcontribs) 04:18, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Oops![edit]

I didn't see that it was a blocked user.--Priyankafan (talk) 17:19, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

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Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale[edit]

" The evidence shows that the Sikhs satisfy these tests. They are more than a religious sect, they are almost a race and almost a nation. As a race, the Sikhs share a common colour, and a common physique based on common ancestors from that part of the Punjab which is centred on Amritsar. They fail to qualify as a separate race because in racial origin prior to the inception of Sikhism they cannot be distinguished from other inhabitants of the Punjab. As a nation the Sikhs defeated the Moghuls, and established a kingdom in the Punjab which they lost as a result of the first and second Sikh wars they fail to qualify as a separate nation or as a separate nationality because their kingdom never achieved a sufficient degree of recognition or permanence. The Sikhs qualify as a group defined by ethnic origins because they consitute a separate and distinct community derived from the racial characteristics I have mentioned." Please see these lines in the last paragraph.

According to the House of Lords, though Sikhs qualify the conditions for Race, Nation and Ehtnicity, yet due to circumstances, they can't be called a race or nation/nationality. And only Ethnicity. I hope this shall settle the issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by All accounts taken (talkcontribs) 10:28, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.[edit]

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STiki emergency[edit]

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Delete template changed[edit]

In case you are wondering about my edit on Loight, I changed it to G1 because the youtube link is nonsense about a ceiling fan. I suspect the name is not a real person. EvergreenFir (talk) 04:05, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Probably you are right. Thanks for informing. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 04:08, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
But the page got deleted as A7. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 04:09, 29 August 2013 (UTC)


Operation Blue Star[edit]

Hey Vigyani, fellow editor.

You made some changes to the operation blue star page and removed the following points:

  • Jarnail Singh Bhinderanwale killed.
  • Akal Takht and various other buildings heavily damaged.
  • Military control of the Sikh spiritual and political buildings.
  • Sikh reference library burned by Indian army.
  • Thousands of Sikh pilgrims taken hostage by Indian army and killed.
  • Assassination of Prime Minister Indira Gandhi in October.

Do you disagree with any of these points? Jujhar.pannu (talk) 05:51, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

I disagree with using the term Khala in info box. You should not have changed it while doing other changes. That term was changed previously after lot of discussions. But others points you mentioned here also need discussion as the result section also has been point of discussion. So it will be unfair to edit without seeking others opinion.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 05:55, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Which points do you think are not fair, I am awaiting you reply. Jujhar.pannu (talk) 06:03, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
From the above mentioned points I did not have any specific problem with anyone, but they do represent certain WP:POV. And when some portions of an article are under debate, it is always healthier to first suggest proposed changes at talk page and wait for few days. What, I didn't like was that you made the combatant2 Khalsa from the militants in the same edit. Reply only if you are going to stay civil.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 01:50, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

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Babb not Babbs[edit]

Hi.

Thanks for your non-controversial clean up of the BKWSU topic.

One small point, it should be Lawrence Babb, not Lawrence Babbs.

Babb, Lawrence A. is the author of "Redemptive Encounters. Three Modern Styles in the Hindu Tradition", "Glancing: Visual Interaction in Hinduism", and others. See: [1].

Thank you. --Januarythe18th (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:28, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. At first instance it was Babbs, so I assumed Babbs. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 04:21, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

POV, really?[edit]

If u think putting a statement under the right section is POV let me tell u u r really irritating me now.. I had written a piece of info in shah rukh's page n a mindful editor put it in the right section and deleted it from the intro..so i had no problem with it.. aish.ego (talk) 09:06, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

May I know which edit you are talking about? And if you are getting irritating then let me tell you, that I have been actually ignoring your rude behavior. So you better mend your behavior before you come to my talk page again.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 09:34, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

New rules in two months?[edit]

Hi AB's PA.. the last time i showed u this edit, u very kindly agreed to it, that the statement n the proof just match. So some new arguement u have now for defending n proving that Abhishek Bachchan is the star now in bollywood, n not srk, aamir, salman, akshay, ajay, saif, hritik, blah blah blahhhhh aish.ego (talk) 08:40, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

You said it's not civil!! helo, it's just that while I give words to my actions, u silently irritate me by your actions. So i think u didn't explain to me what I asked. Please do. aish.ego (talk) 08:46, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
As I had mentioned in my previous interaction with you. You need to be civil while talking with other people. Accusing other editors of PA of some subject is personal attack and harassment. I have now issued you a level one warning for personal attack. If you continue like this you may be blocked from editing.
When you added that statement two months ago, I didn't oppose it. Not that I agreed with that. But you must have seen that a very experience editor removed that line of yours citing it as "non-encyclopediac". So I only mention that you should discuss with him before re-adding.
Now I remind you again to be civil. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 08:49, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Don't explain to me girl, what being civil is, had i been devoting my time to irritate u, i would have been shot by now. Now I don't know what "agreeing" means in your dictionary, but u kindly said "that's better" on that statement i added. What do you mean by non encyclopedic, aish.ego (talk) 08:54, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Use of capital letters is considered shouting. So please do not shout and read WP:CIVIL. I will discuss about the content only if you agree to be civil. Also do not presume my gender. Find out who removed that line before you re-added and discuss with them or invite them to article talk page. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 09:15, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
ok then i rewrite it in small letters "u want me to research on around ten articles n show u some similar non encyclopedic statement5s??" how to send a link from one talk page to another?? i want to show u what uncivilised comment means aish.ego (talk) 09:40, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
If you think that there is non encyclopedic content in any article, then please go ahead and remove it. To send a link to anywhere you have to copy it from the address bar and paste it wherever you want. I noticed that you are being rude to other editors too. Better mend your behavior if you want to stay on wiki.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 12:13, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Well, I think m much better because ur reaction would have been much worse than my "no reaction" when someone dropped an F-bomb twice while talking to me. U r telling me that i am being rude, i can only laugh at it because here is the link where someone talks to me in a way that could make someone fragile create a havoc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Onorem , also see other editors also seem to talk rudely to this editor, using words like 'arsehole,' so i warn u to warn me again on grounds of being rude, coz if i come down to explaining how u r examining my tolerance, its nt going to be very sweet, aish.ego (talk) 05:04, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Someone else's rude behavior doesn't give you the license to be rude with me or any other editor. If you behave rudely or make personal attacks you will be of course warned, wether you like it or not. Whatever I am doing, I am doing by staying within the Wiki policies. If that appears to be an examination of tolerance for you. I suggest you find some other website to push your POV.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 01:25, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
Knock knock, verfiable statements are not POV

Secondly, what's this licence talk all about!! I just showed u ur temperament to small acceptable things, anyway, i leave ur page now, until u try to find something in my edits again, bye aish.ego (talk) 11:08, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for leaving my page. I feel that it is very difficult for me to have a useful conversation with you. So I hereby ban you from my talk page. If you have problem with any of my edit, then discuss it on that article's talk page. So no further editing on talk page for you. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 11:15, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
WOW!! thanks a lot.. thats the best thing u cn do in helping me out, b-byeee, now don't waste a min!! please aish.ego (talk) 11:27, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
banned means no need to answer. Ok. You have already wasted a lot of time of mine.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 11:55, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Correct it[edit]

It was not a wrong reference, among her achievements it was clearly listed. Next time you see any wrong refernce or other shortcoming in a page or edit, please correct it and not simply remove it, Thanks aish.ego (talk) 09:16, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

If you have a weak memory, I have banned you from my talk page. Do not post here.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 09:18, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
THat doesnt give u the previlege to enjoy on my talk page,or have a fun time with my edits dont edit there as well. I dnt love editing here. aish.ego (talk) 09:20, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
I do not edit your talk page, other then technical warnings. And you can not stop me from editing articles of my interest. Now please do not comment further and leave me. Otherwise I will have to start the process of getting you blocked from editing.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 09:25, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank You[edit]

Thanks Vigyani - I will find a reliable source and then repost. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Msseth (talkcontribs) 23:13, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

NextSaagar[edit]

NextSaagar may well be a sock - I've been doing some digging but haven't yet amassed sufficient data to confirm it. - Sitush (talk) 12:16, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Maybe possible!! but looks difficult to me. I went through user contributions at Amitabh Bachchan. Out of 25+ contribution users. Only two users looked close in behavior, but both of them are not blocked .--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 13:25, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Tamra-Tacoma Capital Partners[edit]

The article is pretty much identical, and therefore it's likely the same editor/company has created it. I suggest you take the article to AFD, and take the creator(s) to SPI. GiantSnowman 08:17, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Rick Paul[edit]

I've declined your speedy because the text at the 'source' is actually attributed to Wikipedia. This does happen... Peridon (talk) 11:53, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for informing. I was not aware that it is a previously deleted article.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 14:26, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
If you think it's by the same (blocked or banned) author, go ahead - or whatever else seems to fit... It didn't look very notable, but I didn't check the references. Peridon (talk) 14:36, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
I had come across this during my routine NPP. After your post, I checked the supposed source and saw that it had Wikitags of August 2013, which lead me to believe that it must have been deleted. Just now I checked Deletion log and noticed that it is twice deleted. The present author's only edit is this article creation, so s/he may very well be the blocked or banned editor. I do not know who was the editor in previous case, but I think you can find out.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 14:58, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Virtually the same article - only minor changes. Previously created by 12Zemba, a blocked sock possibly of Aviation geek. Forget the 2006 one - just a bit of vandalism and totally irrelevant. I would say there is quacking... Peridon (talk) 15:47, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm contacting NativeForeigner who handled things. Peridon (talk) 15:52, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion/Dinesh Swamy[edit]

This is my first article which I made for dinesh swamy. The references which are noted are from the advertising news afaqs, campaign India which are online news websites. I have gone through the guidelines and re structured the content. Let me know your thoughts so that I can improvise. Thank you.Prernasw (talk) 16:37, 25 October 2013 (UTC) Prernasw (talk) 16:39, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Kamtapur[edit]

Looking at your recent redirect, would you take a look at this older article and my comments at Talk:Kamtapur? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dougweller (talkcontribs) 06:45, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

My recent redirects are due to User:Surjits12 (now blocked for copyvios). He has a habit of creating multiple duplicate articles with the same or similar content. So I just kept on redirecting his duplicate articles to the first article on that topic. Otherwise I do not have much knowledge of this matter. However I will study this topic and try to help. You can ping on WT:IN--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 08:09, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Copyvio[edit]

Vigyani, what you reverted here and in the next edit was a copyright violation. I've removed it from the history. It's worthwhile googling mass additions of content that appear out of nowhere from new editors; in this case the originals were easily found. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 18:23, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Tendulkar's 200th test match[edit]

Hi! Its the same message at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indian_Premier_League#Tendulkar.27s_200th_test_match and Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Tendulkar.27s_200th_test_match. But i thought i would point it out to you specially if in case you missed it. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 12:26, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

List of CMs[edit]

Vigyani, thanks so much for reverting the overzealous editors at the chief ministers article. Sincerely, indopug 122.172.27.199 (talk) 16:33, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

 :) --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 10:46, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Dominic Russo[edit]

Thanks for moving this back to the user page, but this was an unusual case where it was actually created by User:Poisonious and User:Dominic Russo is not a registered account. I decided to delete it anyway as too promotional for a user page, and left him a note about WP:NOTWEBHOST. This sort of move is a pain, because the user talk pages go, too, and sometimes get lost: I wonder if it could be arranged that main user pages cannot be moved except by admins, or maybe that if a main user page is moved the talk page does not go with it. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:54, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Eskil Dahl[edit]

"Eskil by the way smells really bad. Hw is really cool and likes coconuts." That's not an article that duplicates Coconut, it's just vandalism. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 15:17, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Next time I will mark such articles as Vandalism. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 06:16, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

I added information from a satirical website by mistake in Arvind Kejriwal's page. I sincerely thank you for reverting the edit!!
dhiv talk 11:07, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

 :) ... you are not the first one... several newspapers have also sometime taken satire seriously and republished the news :) --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 12:04, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
On a related note, I was improving the article and found myself in the middle of a revert war with another user while adding the name and age of Kejriwal's children . (Last topic in Talk:Arvind Kejriwal ) I noted that in all featured articles of politicians, the name and age of family members were present and hence I proceeded to do the same. While WP:NOTINHERITED prohibits creating biographies of people who are notable only for being related to notable people, I figured this wouldnt be a problem. I'm quite new to editing, so your valuable feedback is much appreciated. Thanks in advance :D
dhiv talk 12:30, 3 March 2014 (UTC)