User talk:Vindheim

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Hello, Vindheim, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  --Khoikhoi 19:58, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Norwegian and/or living in Norway?[edit]

Hi, I took the chance of including you in our category, based on your recent edit indication an intimate knowledge of Heimdal (Tillerbyen). Feel free to remove the category tag I placed on your user page if you want too, of course. Welcome! --Wernher 23:18, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes indeed I am a Norwegian and I libe near heimdal in the city of Trondheim.
Check my Norwegian wikipage

--Vindheim 23:36, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the message out of the blue. After about six months of out of the blue messages i finally figured out that Werners talk link was piping to my talk page. The fact that Wernher was the only other user to comment on your page has helped me to finally figure out this mystery. Thanks for your help ;-) David D. (Talk) 23:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

glad to be of assistance
--Vindheim 14:48, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Proper removal ov vandalism[edit]

Welcome to wikipedia! Regarding Mustafa Barzani article vandalism.

A proper way do fix vandalism is as follows:

  • click "history"
  • Look at several most recent contributions by suspicious authors (IP addresses or editors whose names are red links). It is not uncommon that vandals flock and some innocent inexperienced editors fix manually 1-2 most evident corruptions of the text.
  • Click at the last non-corrupted version
  • Click "edit" and save this version
  • Optionally reinsert edits by following editors who didn't notice or incorrectly fixed vandalism (like I just did with Mustafa Barzani).

Thank you for your contributions to wikipedia. Mukadderat 19:10, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

The vandalism I removed had replaced the whole article with a "funny" påicture. I repalced the text from the previous version, I believe. --Vindheim 10:05, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Vindheim. Thank you for your comment on the Kurdish people. I will appreciate if you help by that matter. Most of the authorative existing sources support us including wikipedia policy. Xebat Talk + 01:56, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Mustafa barzani.jpeg[edit]


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Please do not upload copyrighted images to commons --Cat out 19:25, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

The images I have uploaded have had their copyright situation checked. Some are from the KRG websise. I contacted the webmaster, asking specifically if the image scould be used in Wikipedia, and received the reply "if you mention the source then you can publish any pictures of website". I a have also uploaded a map of Iraqi kurdistan, which is from the ICG website, [[1]] which states:
Copyright notice.
Unless otherwise specifically stated, the material on this site was created, authored, and/or prepared by the International Crisis Group ("Crisis Group", formerly "ICG") and Crisis Group is the copyright owner of such materials. Unless otherwise specifically stated, no claim to copyright is being asserted by Crisis Group and material on this website may be freely used as in the public domain. Crisis Group encourages you to copy and distribute the Crisis Group copyrighted materials and documents found on this site (the “Crisis Group Materials”). In that regard, so long as you credit Crisis Group as the source and so long as you comply with the other terms and conditions in this notice, no permission is required to use, reproduce, copy, modify or download any of the Crisis Group Materials.
So what is the problem ?--Vindheim 20:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Could you look?[edit]

Please visit Triumf Internett. Is it notable enough for an article? Moriori 04:03, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Please avoid personal attacks[edit]

Personal attacks and imputations of personal motives are unhelpful. We are trying to cooperate on an encyclopedia, not make each other's lives unpleasant. Please consider this. Statements like "It looks as if you are ...", "...because you disagree...", "This article is not your personal playground" and threats like "Do that again and I'll..." are personal judgments and attacks. All of these occur in but a single posting of yours (Talk:Rudolf Steiner). Hgilbert 00:39, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps you can clarify what you see as a solution to the neutrality issue. I have offered two possibilities and you haven't responded to this. At the moment it appears that what you consider "neutral" is only including one point of view. Hgilbert 12:49, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I have reformulated some of the disputed passages and removed the tag. --Vindheim 19:34, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Steiner and the Theosophical Society[edit]

I appreciate that you would like to have a full picture of the Theosophical Society's point of view included in this article. It is a complex issue, however, and Wikipedia articles are meant to be relatively concise, with complex issues dealt with in summary and sub-articles allowing for fuller treatments. I don't believe we can do justice to both parties' points of view in this article; it is a relatively small part of Steiner's complete biography, and the part of his life between 1912-1925 is currently underrepresented. I hope that you can see the sense of having a full treatment in the sub-article, and a non-contentious summary in the main article, with neither point of view as to the blame for the break presented - simply that there was a break over the issues.

Note that if a fuller treatment returns, with the T.S. POV represented, Besant's false claims about Steiner's relationship to Jesuitism, which were printed in T.S. journals at the time and caused a great disturbance to Steiner himself, will also have to be presented. Then we're back to a situation where the section is too long for the general article. Hgilbert 20:26, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Steiner's exclusion of a religious group (The Order of the Star in the East) from the German Section was a blatant and intended breach of TS bylaws. The leadership of the TS was therefore forced to withdraw the charter of the German Section. Omitting this fact is grossly misleading, adding to the anthroposphical bias in the rest of article. --Vindheim 10:52, 30 August 2006 (UTC)


Not sure why you keep trying to qualify Theosophy in ascended master. Blavatski invented Theosophy and coined the word. There is no need to qualify it with "neo-" or "Madame Blavatski's". —Hanuman Das 12:25, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I put a note on the talk page for ascended master. My point being that Blavatsky's masters were not "ascended", but very much human. The "ascended" part came in later versions of theosophy. --Vindheim 12:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)


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race and anthroposophy[edit]

I appreciate your adding the comment about there being no evidence of racism in anthroposophical institutions, but there have been issues (such as the ethnography class in Dutch Waldorf schools, and the views of some individual anthroposophists - a few of whom have been thrown out of the Society over this) where questions have been raised, and I don't think there is any way of verifying what I too hope is true. Perhaps you can cite some source that supports a similar statement, however - I will also look for something of the kind. The Dutch government investigation of the ethnography issue pointed out that there was no suspicion whatsoever of racism in the Dutch schools, for example. Hgilbert 15:41, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Iraqi Kurdistan[edit]

Why did you revert me? Iraqi Kurdistan as it is is a part of the federal body of Iraq. We certainly do not put {{North America}} on Michigan. --Cat out 14:26, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I see no reason not to define Michigan as part of America, and - even more to the point - I see good reason to define Quebec as a distinct political entity within North America and not only as part of Canada. --Vindheim 16:07, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
How about individual counties, cities, and other regions? It is highly redundent to do so and against established concensus on the usage of these templates.
You are welcome to define Iraqi kurdistan as a part of Middle east and asia or Michigan as a part of North America but you can do that with a simple sentence without using the template.
If it is not linked on the table it really should not be used.
--Cat out 16:12, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Cool Cat is right you know. Those templates are only for country related articles. Perhaps you should discuss this on the talk page of the article. Please do not revert valid changes made by other editors, and if you wish to make major changes to the article, discuss them on the talk pages beforehand. — Nearly Headless Nick {L} 16:26, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Copyright problems with Image:Erbil castle.jpeg[edit]

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Copyright problems with Image:Gas victim.jpeg[edit]

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Copyright problems with Image:Mustafa barzani.jpeg[edit]

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Request for Mediation: Ascended master[edit]

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There is a current request for arbitration relating to the articles Waldorf education, Anthroposophy, Rudolf Steiner and Rudolf Steiner's views on race and ethnicity. Hgilbert 01:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


Hi Vindheim, I noticed your edit to Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration and I wanted to let you know that only Arbitrators (that is, users appointed by User:Jimbo Wales to the Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee) are allowed to vote on cases listed on RFAR. It's really not a huge deal, I've already reverted it, but I wanted to let you know so you would know for future reference. If you have any questions, please feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. Essjay (Talk) 05:54, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Waldorf education[edit]


An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Waldorf education. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Waldorf education/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Waldorf education/Workshop.

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Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can[edit]

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Waldorf education[edit]

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Reopening of arbitration[edit]

I have reopened the arbitration case concerning this article for review Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Waldorf education/Review. Fred Bauder 15:11, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

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I was hoping I could get some input from you, about the proposed mergerof Wikipedia:WikiProject Terrorism and counter-terrorism with Wikiproject:Terrorism. It seems there's a lot of overlap between the two projects, and if we spent a few days merging the lists of articles, sharing ideas and collaborating on improving the same articles which both projects are focused on improving...we could really make some headway. Whether you're in favour, or against, the idea of a merger - I'd appreciate some feedback regardless. Much thanks. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 21:45, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Academic Views of Theosophy[edit]

I agree with you completely that "it is essential that the main academic consenus views be presented fairly" regarding Theosophy. But such subjective statements such as the "main academic consenus" is thus and such, without giving a source, makes the statement "Original Research" WP:OR. Arion (talk) 20:13, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Kurdistan Workers Party[edit]

Hello; I reverted your edits in Kurdistan workers party. I did so, because adding unsourced info in such controversial articles should be avoided. Erasing the sourced info is another no-no. Plus I noticed that your version described "Kurdistan workers party" as an "armed resistance", which is at least as POV as Terrorist (One's terorist is other one's freedom fighter). So it didn't qualify for WP:WTA As long as you take these points into considiration, your edits are always welcome, and your contribution is appriciated. Regards, Kerem Özcan (talk) 12:13, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello again;
I am not willing by any-means to get in an edit war, and I am not going to do that. I just want to mention that I am by no means a nationalist or anything near that. I condemn the oppression of Kurdish population and culture in Turkey, and also recognize the right of the self determination of Kurdish people (If that means a seperate Kurdistan, so be it). However you should know that Öcalan's PKK, or Kurdistan Workers Party, is by no means a mythical-freedomfighting organization like Che's guerillas. They have been involved in drug and human trafficing, extorsion, attacks against civilians and Kurdish bussinessmen who don't support them, you name it... Of course this doesn't whitewash the oppression by the Turkish government or the army, but also no need to praise PKK.
Also as you can see from the last elections, the Kurdish party that is allegedly connected with PKK, didn't get the support it expected. Many Kurds voted in favor of AKP, for a diplomatic solution rather than guerilla fighting.
I'll revert your version, which btw apart from typos, has many WP:OR problems, once more. As I said before, I'll by no means get into an edit war, but I think you should think about it in the light of what I've written.
Regards, Kerem Özcan (talk) 11:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Problem edit in Massoud Barzani[edit]

I have reverted your edits in [[:Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons}}, which incuded deletion of sourced material, which could be considered vandalism, and addition of unsourced material derogatory to Mr. Barzani's family, which is covered by Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. -- Donald Albury 16:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


You mean PKK article in Indonesian wikipedia? I hv edited it anyway, removed the "terorist". Thanks for reminding Mimihitam (talk) 13:01, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikiproject Terrorism Newsletter[edit]

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Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 05:29, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


Let me explain you. Word of Kurdistan is only use by USA and Kurds to describe a region in Mesopotamia. There isn't a country called Kurdistan and that flag is only belongs to Iraqi Kurdistan. Turkey, Syria and Iran are not part of Kurdistan. Turks and Kurds are not enemies. The PKK's goal has been to create an independent, socialist Kurdish state called Kurdistan in Mesopotamia. Are you a member of PKK??? Because you are trying to divide Turkey. Please stop doing this and never use that flag anywhere except Iraqi Kurdistan. Izmir lee (talk) 15:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

You are accusing me to persecute Kurds! I have lots of Kurdish friends. They aren't bad people. I only against PKK and terrorist Kurds. Because they want to divide Turkey and declare independent Kurdistan! Izmir lee (talk) 15:26, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
You also seem to be against kurds affirming their identity as kurds. Your repeated changes to the page Kurdish people have nothing to do with preventing terrorism, but seem to have a lot to do with affirming Turkish identity. I will request arbitration.--Vindheim (talk) 15:30, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Turks and Kurds have been living together for hundred years. We won't separate our countries! We will live in Turkey brotherly like today! There is no need to Kurdistan! Don't forget this! Izmir lee (talk) 15:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Some people might say that the treatment of Kurds by Turks is not very friendly as of today (understatement). Anyway even the PKK opts for feredalism and not separatism these days. --Vindheim (talk) 15:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Look here! [2], [3] Recent news about Turkish soldiers who killed by PKK on 10th of June 2008! Is it opting federalism?!? Izmir lee (talk) 16:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I did not claim the PKK have renounced armed struggle. I claimed their official goal is no longer an independent Kurdish state. --Vindheim (talk) 17:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC).

Interview with Åse Kleveland[edit]

The English Wikinews is going to be organizing an interview with the former Norwegian Culture Minister Åse Kleveland. She was also the head of the Swedish Film Institute and is now the chairwoman of the Norwegian Humanist Association. I am asking Wikipedians from all of the Scandinavian languages to contribute questions to her upcoming interview with Wikinews in Oslo. The page is here; please leave questions there and comments to me either on my en.wikinews talk page or my en.wikipedia talk page. Thank you very much! Mike H. Fierce! 02:08, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


Please show me which part of this article you based your claim that most of the 37,000 deaths can be attributed to Turks. --Adoniscik(t, c) 16:26, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to be quick on the trigger! I looked at page 420 of McDowall (your citation) and it still contradicts your assertion: "During the next decade [the PKK's] activities resulted in the death of an estimated 11,000 people, and showed no signs of abating." I presume you calculated the difference between 37,000 and 11,000 and concluded that Turks did most of the killing? If this is the reasoning, it is fallacious because the precise period over which the casualties were calculated is not given, and we do not know whether the sources obtained their statistics from the same source (in order to compare apples to apples). If your reasoning is different, please do explain. In any case, we can work in that reference. Thanks. --Adoniscik(t, c) 16:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikimania 2010 could be coming to Stockholm![edit]

I'm leaving you a note as you may be interested in this opportunity.

People from all six Nordic Wiki-communities (sv, no, nn, fi, da and is) are coordinating a bid for Wikimania 2010 in Stockholm. I'm sending you a message to let you know that this is occurring, and over the next few months we're looking for community support to make sure this happens! See the bid page on meta and if you like such an idea, please sign the "supporters" list at the bottom. Tack (or takk), and have a wonderful day! Mike H. Fierce! 11:13, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Citation: page number[edit]

Could you include the page number(s) for your latest citation in the Rudolf Steiner article, please? Thanks a bundle, and best wishes. Hgilbert (talk) 11:47, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Emb logo.gif[edit]

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The religion of Barazanis[edit]

Please see User_talk:Joyson_Noel#Mustafa_Barzani. Does this sound right to you?--CreazySuit (talk) 21:27, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Al Qaeda[edit]

Would it be possible for you to propose a few sentences with respect to the Sunni background of Al Qaeda, in perhaps the ideology section? Right now the Sunni identifier that you added (albeit sourced) to the lead has no support in the article body, as far as I can tell. Thanks. Switzpaw (talk) 04:18, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Yezidi and their Indian origin[edit]

As per wikipedia's policy the information that I have contributed on the Yezidi page is taken from a Yezidi community web site and referenced. There is not a word of original research. Are you a Yezidi? I am asking as you seem to be a Kurd and many Kurds are Yezidi. Please elaborate on what you have written to me. I have edited the Yezidi page to its previous status. Please can you suggest why the changes I had made were edited? Yogesh Khandke (talk) 14:44, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the blunt question about your identity.
Thanks, unorthodox and unreliable source, a Pinkham I have been told. To me as an Indian the information seems to be easy to believe. I can relate to and find familiar a few Yezidi practices, particularly those which are non-semitic. The civilisation which is now identified as Indian had foot prints from the eastern Pacific shore, into Mongolia and Japan, see Garud and Swastik and into the middle and near east, statues of a man with an elephant head (Ganesha??) have been found in Central America and Europe.
Mithraism the religion of sun worshippers could be related to Mitra one of the names of the sun god the name is invoked in the first pose of Surya Namaskara, please read the link.
I have written to a Yezidi from Egypt wishing to know more about his religion and practices, but perhaps because of his discomfort with English he has not been very enthusiastic about the communication.
The temple at Lalish looks very much like an Indian temple.
What do you infer from your experience with the Yezidi's and Indians? You have been exposed to both of them.
Yogesh Khandke (talk) 06:02, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Terrorism - Welcome Back![edit]

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please discuss on Talk as per WP:BRD. I have opened a thread: Talk:Séralini_affair#New_content_objecting_to_retraction. Jytdog (talk) 12:16, 30 January 2014 (UTC)