User talk:Wamaina

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Please Need Help1Wamaina (talk) 19:52, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Welcome![edit]

Hello Wamaina, welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Our intro page contains a lot of helpful material for new users—please check it out! If you need help, visit Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on this page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions.

Since I liked your polite discussion with the deleting admin, and you obviously understand what needs to be done, I restored the deleted page to User:Wamaina/The Village Market. I would also recommend you to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Kenya, or at least ask the people there for advice. — Sebastian 23:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Sebastian for restoring the page to allow me to make the necessary changes. Yes i will join Wikipedia:WikiProject Kenya as I have seen there's so much that needs to be done to make our country known. I will also ask them for advice as I have intentions of being active on these Wikipages. Wamaina (talk) 15:14, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

You asked about where to post the draft for criticism. That's easy: Just ask the friendly folks at Wikipedia:WikiProject Kenya. To actually get it back into article space, it needs to be moved again, as Teratornis explained to me at WP:HD#Help With Deletion. It shouldn't be as hard as what Teratornis described, so you could try it yourself. But if you're not sure how to do it, please drop me a note, I'll be happy to do that for you. — Sebastian 16:50, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

The following was moved from User talk:SebastianHelm so we can keep the conversation together.

Hi Sebastian, First thanks for your help in sorting out a deleted page. I have redone the page and removed any opinionated language by simply stating facts about this mall. I don't want to save it lest it is deleted again. Since the objection was on the tone of the article having too much advertisement i would appreciate if you would help me in determining if my redone article conforms to the sometimes difficult criteria in factual reporting. I tried the Kenyan Wiki paid but most users there, are not regulars and might not respond to my query in reasonable time. Your response will be highly appreciated and looked forward to.Wamaina (talk) 17:20, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't have the time for this now, and I'm not interested in reading an article about a far away shopping mall.
First of all, how do you expect to get a reply if you haven't even asked there yet? Just leave a message on their talk page. Then, please have some patience. It may take a week. In the meantime, I would encourage you to help out where you can. You know, you haven't done anything but that one article; since that is an article with a commercial interest, many people will suspect that you're only here to promote a business that you're associated with. So I recommend you create yourself a good reputation by helping out with Wikipedia:WikiProject_Kenya#Things_you_can_do. — Sebastian 17:47, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Sebastian, sorry for this but not sure how to show it as a link without saving the article. I have saved the redone article in a Wordpad. I am trying to see if i can get a response from one of the users on Wikiproject_Kenya.Wamaina (talk) 17:55, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, we had an edit conflict: You and I were editing at the same time. I think I undestand now what your misunderstanding was; and I'm simply reposting my changed message:
You can just click on the "Save page" button, it will save it to the same location where it is now, at User:Wamaina/The Village Market. Don't be shy! Then you can simply post a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Kenya and ask people to take a look at [[User:Wamaina/The Village Market]]. Then, please have some patience. It may take a week. In the meantime, I would encourage you to help out where you can. You know, you haven't done anything but that one article; since that is an article with a commercial interest, many people will suspect that you're only here to promote a business that you're associated with. So I recommend you create yourself a good reputation by helping out with Wikipedia:WikiProject_Kenya#Things_you_can_do. — Sebastian 18:00, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I was under the impression that the materials and articles were done by special people. However i definitely will start working on some of the things to do that I am familiar with. I am not associated with this business other than trying to make sure all shopping malls are represented in the Wikipedia. There is a lot of information that need to be included and I will do my part from now on.Wamaina (talk) 18:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, since shopping malls are commercial, and Wikipedia is often misused by people for commercial interests, I really would advise you to write on something non-commercial, too. — Sebastian 18:47, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

No canvassing, please![edit]

When I advised you above to write to one or two individual editors when you don't get a reply at the wikiproject, I did not mean that you should spam 3 editors right away. You haven't even posted the message in the wikiproject yet! What you're doing is WP:Canvassing, which in this case is not allowed. Please therefore remove the individual messages and post one message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Kenya instead. — Sebastian 18:47, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


This is all strange to me. I thought i was meant to ask any of the users for help. Sorry be patient with me and I'll get the habg of things. I will delete all the requests. I have already referenced an article and linked it internally. Wamaina (talk) 19:42, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I have referenced an article on the 9th parliament in Kenya plus linked it internally. This is my first time at this and i will devote a bit of my online time to making a difference in the pages that need work done to them. I posted to the proper place and deleted all the messages to editors.Wamaina (talk) 20:02, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Great, thank you. I know, it's often hard for new users here. I was being a bit impatient for reasons that have nothing to do with you, and I apologize for that. — Sebastian 20:26, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I can understand it must be difficult being an editor. Thanks and apology accepted. You see for me being online I always learn something new and I really devour everything. Thanks for being there for me and the rest of all of us. Wamaina (talk) 20:35, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I joined a long time ago, so don't know how difficult it is for people who are joining now. I can imagine it is more difficult, since we have experienced so much abuse that people have become very suspicious, especially when new editors start with articles related to businesses. I hope that you find a supportive community in the Kenya project, who can help you over such hurdles. — Sebastian 21:26, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I have been wondering how many editors are there in the Kenya project. Looking from the page i believe very few are active the way i see other Wiki pages. Somehow what happens if nobody answers ones comments?Wamaina (talk) 15:58, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with that particular project, but it seems to have gained some recent members, so it looks alive to me. It is not unusual for project members to take some time to respond, which is why I recommended waiting a week. But you already got one editor helping you; Cycle~, who is very experienced. You don't need any more. I see that Cycle~ already wrote some things at User talk:Wamaina/The Village Market#Rewrite; you may want to ask Cycle~ if the article can be moved back once you're done addressing these. — Sebastian 16:39, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Further questions[edit]

Mmm How come you get to know of the response so fast! I am yet to even read his comments. Not sure how to navigate through the different sections of the site. Thanks for taking your time to assist me.Wamaina (talk) 18:48, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh, that's easy! I just look at my watchlist. User:Wamaina/The Village Market is on the watchlist, because I created it. I set my preferences so that all pages that I create or edit are automatically added to the watchlist; I recommend you to to the same. Once a page is on your watchlist, you also see any changes to the corresponding talk page, which is how I saw Cycle~'s message there. — Sebastian 19:04, 3 March 2009 (UTC)


It has been a long time and wanted to add more articles on Kenya.Wamaina (talk) 17:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

would love your collaboration[edit]

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