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Punctuation goes outside quotation marks
- I do not know how else to reply to your email or the comment above, so I'm posting my reply here.
- GRuban says that putting punctuation inside quotation marks "isn't our style here." Has Wikipedia adopted the punctuation-outside-the-quotes style across the board? (I have not noticed that sort of consistency in the articles I read at Wikipedia. In fact, in many articles the placing of punctuation marks with quotation marks seems to be inconsistent.)
- But in standard American usage, placement of quotation marks is in most cases outside the punctuation. E.g.: http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp
- I realize (realise) though that British usage and Americans usage differ to some extent, but even in British usage the period is not always placed outside the quotation mark.
- Thanks for your help, and your response! Yes, we do have 3.7 million articles, and a huge number of users, many of which are new, and of course each came in with their own writing style. But we do have a Wikipedia:Manual of Style that tries to unify the style used in Wikipedia. Especially if you want to try to fix style issues, it's worth reading over. Part of it is that link I pointed you to, MOS:LQ, that specifically states the quotation/punctuation rules we try to follow here. --GRuban (talk) 12:02, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Accusation of copyright violation
Issue 2: I've been accused of submitting copyright protected material without permission, but I have not been adding such information to articles that I have edited. I'm being warned that I may be blocked from editing Wikipedia articles because of some unspecified "violation" the nature of which I can't remember or imagine.
If someone is accusing me of an improper submission, I should be told specifically what that submission was.
- I can't figure out this one either. You may want to ask User talk:Smashville. But it was 2 years ago, though, maybe he doesn't remember either. --GRuban (talk) 12:24, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
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- It appears to me that Smashville made a mistake. There is no page edited by both of you in the period since you started editing until he wrote the message above. I agree that any such accusations should be specific. --Lambiam 10:36, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
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Simon & Garfunkel
Your edits on Simon & Garfunkel are being reverted as a) they are clearly your point of view and unsourced. If you wish to add that Paul Simon is so noteworthy as a guitarist, you will need to add a reliable source that says this. If you wish to add this information, the onus is on you to do this. Unsourced information may be removed at any time. Further, using an ampersand instead of "and" in text - as opposed to the accepted name "Simon & Garfunkel", where it is fine - does not conform to proper style and is unencyclopedic. Echoedmyron (talk) 19:28, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
To call Simon a guitarist does not imply that he is especially "noteworthy." He obviously is the lead guitarist on most, if not all of his recordings and in live performance. That fact —not an opinion—should not require 'documentation'. But, for the record, Rolling Stone has listed him as one of the top 100 guitarists (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-guitarists-20111123/paul-simon-20111122). I did not cite that when I added "guitarist," because I made no reference to his level of skill. Paul Simon wrote nearly all of his own and Simon & Garfunkel's songs and he plays lead guitar on the ones that have guitar accompaniment. He also sings. Art Garfunkel is a singer who also wrote the poem that's used as the canticle for Scarborough Fair (cited in the Art Garfunkel Wiki page). Garfunkel does not play instruments on their recordings. (WandaRMinstrel (talk) 20:27, 7 August 2014 (UTC))
- Putting that in the lead does exactly that. And requires a source, as other editors have pointed out to you before. Just because you say it does not require documentation does not make it so. You will want to read policies such as WP:LEAD for guidance, from which I quote: "The emphasis given to material in the lead should roughly reflect its importance to the topic, according to reliable, published sources. Apart from trivial basic facts, significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the remainder of the article." If Simon's guitar-playing is important to the subject of the duo as you say it is, it should be covered at length within the body, and also sourced to reliable third-party sources. That Rolling Stone article's relationship to Simon & Garfunkel is tenuous at best, as the only link - aside from Simon himself - is a quote from him about what he did for S&G, making it not a third-party source. The fact that he's all the way down at #93 out of 100 doesn't really matter, although I note that S&G are ranked at 40 by Rolling Stone on their all time greatest bands list () and Garfunkel makes the list of greatest singers at 86 (), which suggests to me that Simon's guitar playing is less important to the duo as a whole, by Rolling Stone's standards. Echoedmyron (talk) 20:17, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
There was no reference cited to document that Simon is a singer either. But, in any case, I DID cite the reference to Simon's being acknowledged as one of the 100 greatest guitarists. Wikipedia's own Paul Simon page begins by identifying him as a "musician, singer and songwriter" (probably because he also plays other instruments such as keyboard too). It is demeaning to call someone just a "singer-songwriter" when he or she also plays lead instruments in concert and on studio recordings; some singer-songwriters do not play instruments in their live performances or on recordings. That is hardly the case with Paul Simon. (WandaRMinstrel (talk) 20:28, 7 August 2014 (UTC))