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Diagram on 'Countries of the United Kingdom'[edit]

A Venn diagram explaining the terminology of the British Isles in visual form

Hi Wdcf, it's been suggested that we close [[Talk:Countries_of_the_United_Kingdom#Suggest_we_close the discussion on 'Countries of the United Kingdom']] with the conclusion that the diagram and link relating to British Isles was inappropriate for that article anyway. (A new RFC/discussion will open elsewhere on the question of the Channel Islands.)

Are you OK with removing the diagram again (on that article)? --rannṗáirtí anaiṫnid (coṁrá) 10:29, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I was rather hoping, after observing the discussions that sprang up this last few days, that the modifications to the Venn diagram would satisfy all. Maybe the image is not appropriate on the "Countries of the United Kingdom" page - but I do think it should go somewhere. I am a great believer in Picture = 10^3 words, to me the information conveyed in the Venn diagram is much easier to digest in that format than it would be a a continuous piece of prose. Hence, I do hope the Venn can be found a home somewhere... Wdcf (talk) 12:47, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
It's that page I mean. Discussion of the Channel Islands or otherwise can be moved elsewhere. It's not pertinent to that article. --rannṗáirtí anaiṫnid (coṁrá) 13:10, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Wdcf, British Isles and Channel Island aside, that article is on an entirely different topic. It is not about the British Isles. There is a map at the top that show the countries on the United Kingdom. --rannṗáirtí anaiṫnid (coṁrá) 11:58, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

RFC on whether the Channel Islands are a part of the British Isles[edit]

Following from a discussion you were a participant in on Talk:Countries of the United Kingdom, a (limited) RFC has been opened inviting comments on whether the Channel Islands should be treated as part of the British Isles on Wikipedia. All views are welcome here. --rannṗáirtí anaiṫnid (coṁrá) 20:32, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

File:Supranational European Bodies-en.png[edit]

A Venn diagram explaining the relationships between European supranational organisations in visual form (English)
A Venn diagram explaining the relationships between European supranational organisations in visual form (Swedish)

Hello, nice work with the Supranational European Bodies.png file! I would like to use it on a non-English wikipedia, but then have to translate the different country names. It is possible to access an editable version (e.g., svg) of this file rather than the png version? --KYN (talk) 14:55, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your praise, I'm glad you find the file so helpful. One of the reasons, besides aesthetics, I used flags is they transcend languages. However, the labels for the different organisations are obviously in English on this version.
Unfortunately, the image does not exist as an .svg file - it was created in Microsoft Word from whence I just export it to a .png file before uploading it. I've had a great deal of trouble getting transparency to work properly in programs such as Inkscape, so hence I've not moved it into an upload-able svg format yet.
For the time-being, if you provide me with the translations of the text "The Council of Europe", "European Economic Area", etc. I can create a png file from that. Which language are you working on? Wdcf (talk) 20:32, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I meant the organisation labels need to be translated. I'm interested in having them translated to Swedish which may be problematic if Word or your keyboard is not capable of supporting Swedish characters. Are you sure they do? --KYN (talk) 21:08, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
I think the "Insert Symbol" feature on Word can stretch to the three extra letters: å, ä and ö. Swedish alphabet Wdcf (talk) 21:56, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Ok, here we go:
  • "The Council of Europe" -> "Europarådet"
  • "European Free Trace Association" -> "Europeiska frihandels\-samman\-slutningen"
  • "European Economic Area" -> "Europeiska ekonomiska samarbets\-området"
  • "European Union" -> "Europeiska unionen"
  • "EU Customs Union" -> "EU:s tullunion"
  • "Eurozone" -> "Euroområdet"
  • "Agreement with EU to mint Euros" -> "Avtal med EU om användning av euro" or "Avtal om användning av euro" if the first is too long
  • "Schengen Area" -> "Schengen\-området"
Thanks! I've included the image here: sv:Europeisk integration. Will try to fix the clickable map later. --KYN (talk) 22:35, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

One more thing about File:Supranational European Bodies-en.png. The only European country that is missing in the figure is Belarus. This country doesn't participate in any of the presented bodies, but the figure would become more complete if Belarus is shown somewhere outside the bodies. If you decide do go along with this idea, please add it also to the Swedish version. --KYN (talk) 09:14, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

This is not a diagram showing all the European nations, it shows all the European Supranational Organisations, and those countries that are members of them. Belarus is not shown because it isn't a member of any of the Supranational Organisations. Wdcf (talk) 23:36, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi again, I just noticed that you have updated the English version with Estonia's inclusion into the Euro zone. Can you please update also the Swedish version of the image? --KYN (talk) 18:40, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Done. To save you the trouble of having to completely re-do the Image Map I have included the coordinates here: User:wdcf/EU_imagemap
Thanks, but there are a few typos now (please refer to the old image or the hyphenations described above):
  • "Europeiska frihandels\-samman\-slutningen" (hyphens are missing)
  • "Europeiska ekonomiska samarbets\-området" (hyphen is missing)
  • "Schengen\-området" (hyphen is missing)
  • "Euroområdet" (ending "et" is missing)
--KYN (talk) 16:24, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Done!Wdcf (talk) 18:51, 7 January 2011 (UTC)


Hi, can You add the Opt-Out countries and the European Exchange Rate countries as well?

These do not constitute a Supranational Organisation, so shouldn't feature on this diagram. Wdcf (talk) 00:35, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

List of translated versions so far...[edit]

Evolution of Malaysia[edit]

Evolution of Malaysia

Nifty idea. I wished that this kind of diagrams existed in text books in my time, so I didn't have to fail History that easily. I'd just like to point out that the spelling for Straights Settlements should be Straits Settlements because they're situated along the Straits of Malacca, and also because there's nothing straight about the settlements. Cheers!CoolCityCat (talk) 05:37, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

This is great work. Except that in 1965, Singapore did not actually secede. It did not want to secede. It was expelled by the Parliament. __earth (Talk) 12:36, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Come to think of it, I largely agree with you - I happen to know that Singapore is the only country to become independent against its own will. But its expulsion did result in it parting from Malaysia. Which leads me to ask if the word 'secede' implies a mutual agreement - if so I'll have to change that word. Wdcf (talk) 13:31, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
I don't believe 'secede' must necessarily be mutual. Many secessionist movements for instance are not mutual in their desire to part ways. In fact, I consulted a dictionary just to be sure and the definition given is" "to withdraw from an organization (as a religious communion or political party or federation)." For some reason, I comprehend 'to withdraw' as something done voluntarily or done on one's own accord. Singapore certainly didn't want to withdraw from the federation. I personally prefer 'expel' because it is more accurate in describing the situation in 1965 because the Parliament voted to expel Singapore. If I remember correctly, that is the word used in the Hansard back in 1965. __earth (Talk) 11:20, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

New entry[edit]

  • Please note that the correct term is actually "separated", due to the legal works (as in a Constitutional amendment requested by Lee Kuan Yew prior to the so called expulsion vote passed in the Malaysian parliament) in the constitution of Malaysia which had allowed states from both British Malaya and North Borneo to join the federation but not to leave it. In historical archives, popular media works and even in excerpts here on Wikipedia, both terms are added to reflect the somewhat confusing situation back then of the events that lead up to the separation of Singapore from the Federation of Malaysia. Part of this can be verified in Lee Kuan Yew#Merger with Malaya, then separation – 1963 to 1965:

Hence, by using the word "expel" it fringes on POV while the word "separate" would be a better candidate per NPOV. Please note that this is also a common occurrence in the article page of Singapore where sneaky attempts by several POV-pushers has been made over time to change from separation to expulsion. Thoughts? --Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 09:34, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Evolution of Northern Rhodesia, Southern Rhodesia and Nyasaland[edit]

Evolution of Northern Rhodesia, Southern Rhodesia and Nyasaland
Thanks for your diagram above that shows the complexity of the development of the CAF territories. There are however a few errors in it:
Only Nyasaland was still a protectorate in 1953 (Northern Rhodesia became a crown colony in 1923 when the south became self-governing) so your label at 1953 should read "These three territories...." not "protectorates".
From 1924 it [ Northern Rhodesia ] was administered by the British government as an official British protectorate.
But still, Southern Rhodesia was not a protectorate, so the text still needs changing.
Southern Rhodesia declared itself independent as Rhodesia in 1965 (not 1964).
Agreed.
Nyasaland became the republic of Malawi in 1963 (not 1964).
The infobox on the Nyasaland page says: Independence from the United Kingdom July 6, 1964
Would you be able to amend these as I think anyone else's attempts would entail removing it?--AssegaiAli (talk) 11:26, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Oops sorry I misread the section in my history of Central Africa about self-government as independence of Malawi. I have just seen that Malawi did not become a republic straight away however. This only occurred 2 years after independence during which time Elizabeth II remained head of state; so 1964 represented only Malawi's appearance not a republic. Thanks--AssegaiAli (talk) 12:53, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Article proposed for deletion[edit]

Hello. I have just proposed Multi-speed Europe for deletion. Please join in the discussion if you care to. Jaque Hammer (talk) 13:34, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

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Chemistry: A Volatile History[edit]

Is this the complete transcript of the voice-over? If so, that would constitute a violation of the BBC's copyright. —Ruud 11:47, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

oh goodness no - it took ages to write that summary! You could probably check this if there are some clips of the episodes on YouTube. Wdcf (talk) 12:13, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
I watched it a few months ago. It just seemed a bit long for a summary ;) —Ruud 12:18, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
But you'll agree it was an amazing series and worthy of a good page of Wikipedia. :-) I do have a summary of the final episode I haven't got around to uploading yet - I just need to check it for spelling, punctuation and grammar. Wdcf (talk) 12:21, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
I started the page on it ;) —Ruud 12:29, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
So you did! Are you aware Jim Al-Kalili has just started a new series on Electricity? Not sure if you'll be able to get BBC iPlayer in Netherlands... Wdcf (talk) 12:36, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
I didn't, thanks for the suggestion. There were some rumours of iPlayer coming to other European countries, but it didn't work last time I tried. Cheers, —Ruud 12:48, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

File:Supranational European Bodies-en.png[edit]

Hello Wdcf. Thank you for this amazing diagram, it is very hepful. I was wondering if you would be able to please update it to move Liechtenstein within the Schengen Area? Liechtenstein implemented the Schengen Agreement as of today (19 December). (Source) Many thanks again! (Connolly15 (talk) 15:29, 19 December 2011 (UTC))

LGBT rights in the EU diagram[edit]

Great diagram!

However, there are three places where the background is black accidentally. Could you fix that? I don't know how.

All the best, Climatophile (talk) 19:37, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Neither do I! I went to a lot of trouble to make this an SVG (Scalable Vector Graphic) so others could update it with an SVG editor. However, I don't know why those black boxes appeared :( Wdcf (talk) 15:29, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
Oh noes. I found this, which might help: Wikipedia:SVG help Climatophile (talk) 09:50, 11 August 2013 (UTC)