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Thanks to all of you for the interesting conversations that occur here. We are here to build an encyclopedia, so let's discuss how to improve as many of the 4,858,403 articles on Wikipedia as we can. Tips from Wikipedians on how to edit better, and on where to find resources for sourcing better edits, are always appreciated. I see other user talk pages have announcements about where each editor will reply to posts. Usually I will reply to your comments to me, posted here, right here on this page. I'll do my best to learn to follow to where you want me to read your posts, and where to reply to them, if you have a differing preference.

Please see my how I edit page for a detailed discussion of my approach to editing Wikipedia. Note that I am rigid and inflexible in respecting the core Wikipedia content guideline of respecting reliable secondary sources, so I read actual books and review articles rather than blogs or fringe websites when searching for information for updating Wikipedia articles. Experience has taught me that it is pointless to prefer the world of blogs for information in an era when academic libraries are woefully neglected. Professional academic librarians (who are severely underpaid, in my opinion) are well qualified to advise you on what sources are reliable and what sources are laughable in the opinion of thorough, thoughtful scholars. Ask a professional reference librarian at an academic library for advice on what sources are reliable and mainstream. The librarian will be glad to help. (And, yes, anyone who answers questions like this should be paid more to answer the questions than is usually the case.)

Please note. Somehow some editor has been disregarding the immediately preceding paragraph here, so let me be especially clear. I happen to work on pages that are subject to active arbitration remedies, and the related ArbCom case included site bans for some editors who have returned to Wikipedia as puppets. I cannot always be sure that comments posted to this page are posted by someone who had nothing to do with the case that triggered those remedies. Therefore I will make full use of my right to remove comments from my own user pages. "The removal of material from a user page is normally taken to mean that the user has read and is aware of its contents. There is no need to keep them on display and usually users should not be forced to do so." I have the right to clean up my own user talk page and will do so. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, we may as well remember that it's always hunting season for that kind of duck.

Elsevier access[edit]

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Thank you. I have just been responding to the email message. Best wishes for much improvement in Wikipedia this year as more Wikipedians have access to Wikipedia Library resources. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 00:25, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 9[edit]

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Issue 9, November-December 2014
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  • New donations, including real-paper-and-everything books, e-books, science journal databases, and more
  • New TWL coordinators, conference news, a new open-access journal database, summary of library-related WMF grants, and more
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Top 10,000 pages on Wikipedia 2014 list[edit]

The editor who compiles the weekly top 5,000 articles list, @West.andrew.g:, has just finished putting together his second annual top 10,000 articles list for 2014. That's a very useful overview of what most readers read most often on Wikipedia. I see that the article IQ classification, which I found reliable sources for, fixed and expanded after years of edit-warring, nominated for featuring on the main page Did you know? section, and developed into a good article, has now enjoyed more than a million page views in the last year, making me eligible for the Million Award. Cool. I'd like to continue improving that article, and hope in 2015 to bring some other articles with lots of page views at least up to good article or even featured article quality. Just about every one of the 4,858,403 articles on Wikipedia still needs a lot of work, and I look forward to working with all of you, my fellow Wikipedians, in the new year to identify high-page-view articles and sources for improving those articles in a spirit of collaboration as we build an encyclopedia. What are some of your favorite articles that appear on the top 10,000 list for 2014? -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 16:54, 21 January 2015 (UTC)


Hi. I wanted to update you on the status of your Elsevier account. I sent the first list to Elsevier on 12 January. Elsevier reports that they will be e-mailing applicants next week with an access code, which will start your use of the resource. I appreciate your patience with this process. Feel free to contact me with any feedback or questions you have about Elsevier access. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:54, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your thorough communication. I figured that a big business corporation like Elsevier had a lot of internal bureaucracy that would be less speedy than you have been. Keep up the good work. See you on the wiki. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 22:18, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Adam Matthew[edit]

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Rejuvenation Research[edit]

Have a look at the history of that article... That journal has been manipulating its impact factor for years. For some reason, Thomson Reuters is tolerating it. Before believing anything published in nit, I'd want to see a more reliable source... Having said this, I guess that this meets WP's RS guidelines... --Randykitty (talk) 21:41, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

I looked up that journal through the library resources available to me here to check another Wikipedia article a while ago. I agree with you that Rejuvenation Research has publication practices far below those of other journals on related topics. I think that at a minimum, GRG should not be using Wikipedia as essentially a group blog to puff its latest preliminary findings. Anything to be said about centenarians on Wikipedia had better be sourced to an independent, published source. Always glad to hear from you; keep up the good work. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 22:26, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia email re signup[edit]

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Thank you, yes, I've already done the sign-up steps. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 01:55, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 10[edit]

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Issue 10, January-February 2015
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  • New donations - ProjectMUSE, Dynamed, Royal Pharmaceutical Society, and Women Writers Online
  • New TWL coordinator, conference news, and a new guide and template for archivists
  • TWL moves into the new Community Engagement department at the WMF, quarterly review

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English language[edit]

Hi. I don't have any sources regarding the spread of the language. Having said that much of it is self evident. England --> British isles --> British Empire --> Post WWII Americsn film/tv. The US becoming a superpower post WWII is not particularly relevant in that that specifically has nothing to do with the further spread of English, rather it was the proliferation of American film/tv to non Eng speaking nations. How it was summed up in the para was accurate. Bascially all that is needed is a source that mentions US film and television. — Carlos Rojas77 (talk) 13:01, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

I prefer to follow the sources to what they say (and there are some great sources on the spread of English already cited in the article) rather than to reach a conclusion first, and then look for a source to back up my conclusion. Anyway, I welcome you to dig into the sources for that interesting article, which indeed do mention American film and television but also many other factors in the worldwide spread of English. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 13:29, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Formal mediation has been requested[edit]

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Note from new Wikipedian[edit]

Thanks for your note! I am a newcomer to Wikipedia (having participated in a very basic intro to wiki editing workshop yesterday). I must confess to being a bit intimidated, but when I started reading the entries for my field (behavior genetics - as you can see by my username, I decided to goDrdanielledick (talk) 11:14, 25 March 2015 (UTC) with transparency), I could see how they could benefit from having someone who is centrally connected to this area work on them (and recruit others in my field to work on them). Thank you for the work that you have done on these pages! And thank you in advance for you patience as I slowly learn wiki etiquette and procedures and attempt to get some other individuals to work with me on the behavioral genetics pages.

Welcome aboard. Years ago, in a different context, I learned a slogan of marathon runners: start slow and ease up. That's a good approach for plunging into editing Wikipedia. There are a lot of articles needing a lot of loving care and scholarly attention in the scope of your research and scholarship, so I'm delighted to see you here. Feel free to stop by this user talk page of mine any time with questions about the editing culture here (rather bizarre, but entrenched) and Wikipedia policies and procedures. I know of some professional colleagues of your who are also developing more interest in fixing Wikipedia, so I am hopeful for much improvement in the BG-related articles. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 12:31, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Food for thought on human communication[edit]

A link from Finland on human communication that I learned about from a Canadian scholar who recommended the work of the scholar commented about at the link. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 23:12, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Phonetics and phonology[edit]

Thanks for your message, and your encouragement. I'm keen to contribute, but I'm afraid I sometimes strike the wrong note or come up with inappropriate material - however, I'll keep trying. My big ambition is to try to get some fellow-phoneticians to join me in contributing their expertise, and I've been raising issues about WP coverage that I think are interesting in a little blog that's read by people in the phonetics community, but so far I have not had much luck. RoachPeter (talk) 17:13, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

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"Wikipedia vs Quackery – Standards vs Chaos" article online[edit]

I see a group-edited blog about evaluating medical evidence, Science-Based Medicine, has published an article today, "Wikipedia vs Quackery – Standards vs Chaos," quoting experienced an experienced Wikipedian's essay for the statement, "It may be that there are certain parties which dispute the consensus view. It is up to the editors of articles to determine, through careful examination of the sources, how notable the views of these parties are and whether they are relevant to articles on scientific matters. It is important to note that in forming its consensus it is the members of a particular scientific discipline who determine what is scientific and what is questionable science or pseudoscience. Public opinion or promoters of what is considered pseudoscience by the scientific consensus hold no sway in that determination." We'll see how that goes. I certainly hope that every Wikipedia article I read, and especially the Wikipedia articles that I edit, are edited on that basis at all times. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 19:21, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

A new reference tool[edit]

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Rockefeller Foundation eugenics[edit]

You said you removed my edit that suggested this was a claim not a proven fact, But it looks like it is still up there to me. Maybe my internet connection is slow. With a claim like that, since it is potentially slanderous against the Rockefeller Foundation, isn't it better to err on the side of caution than to assume it to be a fact? Especially when the only source given is a very controversial one.--PaulBustion88 (talk) 18:43, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

I didn't say anything about doing anything to the current state of editing the article on the article talk page. (Oh, maybe you are referring to the partly automated message on your user talk page that I put there, which includes default text that is sometimes inappropriate for giving a general notice to an editor.) I'm still looking up sources. I am sure that there is more than one author who has written about the issue you mention. You really need to learn how to read more carefully, for your own sake. Reading more widely in better sources will help you have a happier, more peaceful life. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 21:00, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

English language - Malta[edit]

Hi WeijiBaikeBianji, thanks for leaving me a message. I had a look at the source you suggested and I can see that the text in the article matches that source. I don't have a strong feeling about this but the Maltese Constitution article 5 section 2 states that English is an official language in Malta so it seems as if the Eurobarometer poll is in error. Also I don't think English is actually legally official in the UK so Eurobarometer is in error there too.

I can see you've done tonnes of work on this article and my edit was really just a drive by so I'm completely happy for you to leave the article as it is now or make any change you think appropriate. All the best. Boreas74 Speak Softly 12:51, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

I've been thinking about this too, and I think there is a way to reflect the facts of the matter in language from another part of the source that reflects what other sources say (I'll check those) so that this issue doesn't jump out at other people who know the situation in Malta. I think the error is to refer to "official language" in that context. Thanks for your careful attention to detail; watch for my next edit. See you on the wiki. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 13:35, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 3[edit]

Greetings! For this month's issue...

We have demos!

After a lengthy research and design process, we decided for WikiProject X to focus on two things:

  • A WikiProject workflow that focuses on action items: discussions you can participate in and tasks you can perform to improve the encyclopedia; and
  • An automatically updating WikiProject directory that gives you lists of users participating in the WikiProject and editing in that subject area.

We have a live demonstration of the new WikiProject workflow at WikiProject Women in Technology, a brand new WikiProject that was set up as an adjunct to a related edit-a-thon in Washington, DC. The goal is to surface action items for editors, and we intend on doing that through automatically updated working lists. We are looking into using SuggestBot to generate lists of outstanding tasks, and we are looking into additional options for automatic worklist generation. This takes the burden off of WikiProject editors to generate these worklists, though there is also a "requests" section for Wikipedians to make individual requests. (As of writing, these automated lists are not yet live, so you will see a blank space under "edit articles" on the demo WikiProject. Sorry about that!) I invite you to check out the WikiProject and leave feedback on WikiProject X's talk page.

Once the demo is sufficiently developed, we will be working on a limited deployment on our pilot WikiProjects. We have selected five for the first round of testing based on the highest potential for impact and will scale up from there.

While a re-designed WikiProject experience is much needed, that alone isn't enough. A WikiProject isn't any good if people have no way of discovering it. This is why we are also developing an automatically updated WikiProject directory. This directory will surface project-related metrics, including a count of active WikiProject participants and of active editors in that project's subject area. The purpose of these metrics is to highlight how active the WikiProject is at the given point of time, but also to highlight that project's potential for success. The directory is not yet live but there is a demonstration featuring a sampling of WikiProjects.

Each directory entry will link to a WikiProject description page which automatically list the active WikiProject participants and subject-area article editors. This allows Wikipedians to find each other based on the areas they are interested in, and this information can be used to revive a WikiProject, start a new one, or even for some other purpose. These description pages are not online yet, but they will use this template, if you want to get a feel of what they will look like.

We need volunteers!

WikiProject X is a huge undertaking, and we need volunteers to support our efforts, including testers and coders. Check out our volunteer portal and see what you can do to help us!

As an aside...

Wouldn't it be cool if lists of requested articles could not only be integrated directly with WikiProjects, but also shared between WikiProjects? Well, we got the crazy idea of having experimental software feature Flow deployed (on a totally experimental basis) on the new Article Request Workshop, which seeks to be a place where editors can "workshop" article ideas before they get created. It uses Flow because Flow allows, essentially, section-level categorization, and in the future will allow "sections" (known as "topics" within Flow) to be included across different pages. What this means is that you have a recommendation for a new article tagged by multiple WikiProjects, allowing for the recommendation to appear on lists for each WikiProject. This will facilitate inter-WikiProject collaboration and will help to reduce duplicated work. The Article Request Workshop is not entirely ready yet due to some bugs with Flow, but we hope to integrate it into our pilot WikiProjects at some point.

Harej (talk) 00:57, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

April 25: Information Architecture Summit meetup in Minneapolis[edit]

Thought you might be interested in Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Minnesota#Information Architecture Summit meetup - I know the organizer from participation in various NYC wiki-events.--Pharos (talk) 13:31, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

IA Editathon[edit]

Email me at with yor name and contact info. I will send you details about the event and make sure you can get into the session. I plan to arrive in the early afternoon Friday and would love to find a way to meet before the session. I have a few people who expressed interest incouding Mark and jonathunder. Pharos is also giving me a lot of good ideas. It is nice that I have been able to meet up with him at my local events. Looking forward to it!

Nwhysel (talk) 21:40, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

English in NZ[edit]

The source given [1] says that English is a de facto official language in NZ. Adabow (talk) 19:52, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

I've already checked sources published by the New Zealand government for another article. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 20:28, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
That sources states that it is an official language, not necessarily a de jure official language. Look at a NZ Ministry of Education website: "English, the medium for teaching and learning in most schools, is a de facto official language by virtue of its widespread use." Even see the languages of New Zealand article. Adabow (talk) 20:58, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Agreed that that is a better (and clearer) source. I'll do the article update in a while. I'm still puzzled why previous editors on the list article haven't looked beyond the CIA Factbook for the facts of the matter. Thanks for finding a source that is even more specific on the point at issue than the New Zealand Census documents. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 21:09, 21 April 2015 (UTC)