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Hey Wes. Just to let you know, Eliias recorded a new song earlier this year. It has this line, Let the fire inside you grow. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RebeccaTheAwesomeXD (talkcontribs) 16:57, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

@RebeccaTheAwesomeXD: is there a source to verify this fact? Articles must have sources to verify what we write, otherwise it violates all the policies and we end up being blocked from editing. Is that what you really want, for you to be banned from editing for violating the rules? And when you post on someone's talk page, please remember to start a new topic at the bottom of a talk page. There really is a lot about Wikipedia that you still need to learn about, the number of errors and mistakes you are making are unbelievable. Wes Mouse 12:38, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
@Wesley Mouse: You don't get it! He recorded a new song back in February! He even announced that he would present the new song, as he tweeted back in April: "New song after the goddamn puberty!" And just to be honest, I don't wanna be banned from editing. I'm trying everything I can to keep Eliias' discography increasing with the new song. RebeccaTheAwesomeXD (talk) 00:38, 19 October 2014 (UTC)RebeccaTheAwesomeXD
@RebeccaTheAwesomeXD: Do not add this song to Eliias's discography without providing a source. What you're doing is using original research which is not allowed on Wikipedia. You say you don't want to be blocked from editing but it seems you're doing everything you can to be blocked. Please stop. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 11:37, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
Hey Wes. I'm only saying this because I feel like it - please, do not delete Eliias' new song, "Let the Fire," from his discography. I think that's the title of it, since it has this line: Let the fire inside you grow. I shall repeat again - don't delete Eliias' new song from his discography.RebeccaTheAwesomeXD (talk) 00:24, 19 October 2014 (UTC)RebeccaTheAwesomeXD
@RebeccaTheAwesomeXD: I don't take kindly to being threatened in the way you have done so above. And another thing Rebecca, you are violating the biggest rule of them all on Wikipedia. You say Eliias recorded a song in February and you also state it is on YouTube. I have search YouTube and there are no new songs by him. I have even checked his official SoundCloud profile and again no new songs by him. And if there is a song with the line "Let the fire inside you grow", we cannot assume that the song title will be called "Let the Fire" unless there is sourced evidence to back up this fact. What you are doing is original research and not only that you are claiming something without even verifying it. Wes Mouse 13:22, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
@Wesley Mouse:I'm sorry Wes. Maybe I should wait until Eliias releases a new single :-) RebeccaTheAwesomeXD (talk) 16:34, 19 October 2014 (UTC)RebeccaTheAwesomeXD
@RebeccaTheAwesomeXD: it would be sensible to wait, yes. If we guess a song title and then later it is proven to be a different name, then we have effectively reported a false fact. We have to remember that the artists and their management check the internet regularly, including Wikipedia - and if they see that we've reported something wrong then they are likely to get upset and seek legal action. That is what we have to avoid when adding content to articles. Always remember the five core rules to Wikipedia. Make sure that anything we write can be easily cited using only reliable sources so that we are ultimately verifying our content, without breaking the original research rule. And when dealing with articles of living people - we need to make sure that we are very strict with the rules, in order to prevent them taking legal action against A) WIkipedia, and B) the editor who wrote it. I hope this helps, Rebecca. IF ever you have doubt, then send post a message on the project talk page and someone will be able to advise you. Doing this will also prevent you from wandering into trouble and receiving blocking sanction for making a simple mistake. Wes Mouse 16:44, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

OGAE 2014[edit]

Hey Wes, I've noticed someone has been adding points on the OGAE Second Chance Contest 2014 but there's no sources provided and I haven't seen any Eurovision websites report on it. What do you think I should do about this? { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 13:47, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Hmm I hadn't noticed that. If there are no sources, then I suppose the scores should be removed. Wes Mouse 13:48, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the advice. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 13:49, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
@Jjj1238: the results are in, I've just spent the last 90 minutes adding all the results into a scoreboard table and then got an (edit conflict) showing you'd already done it. Lol. Wes Mouse 21:48, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
Haha, sorry Wes, I just undid the edit I made deleting the table :P { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 22:04, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Re: Project Eurovision templates[edit]

Like this?

{{Escyr|2014|j=Junior}} 2014
{{Escyr|2007|d=Dance}} 2007
{{Escyr|2014|y=Young Musicians}} 2014
{{Escyr|2013|y=Young Dancers}} 2013
-- [[ axg //  ]] 20:40, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
Yes, something like that. Although the JESC and EDC ones seem to want to direct to "Junior Eurovision young Song Contest" and "Eurovision young Dance Contest" respectively. I'm guessing the musicians and dancers versions are using Latin "Y" and Greek "Υ" (Upsilon)? Wes Mouse 20:45, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
I added extra code after the above message, which ruined it, should work now though. Latin Y is used. -- [[ axg //  ]] 20:48, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
Awesome, they look cool. I've been working alongside Fort esc in bringing the Young Musician and Young Dancer articles up to project standards and expanding their subject matter too - so these new template codes will be so much help and useful. Are there any others you're aware of, that may benefit from this same restructuring? Wes Mouse 20:52, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
A ha that error I made before, I fixed, so no need for 'Young', so all that's needed is:
{{Escyr|2014|y=Musicians}} 2014
{{Escyr|2013|y=Dancers}} 2013

-- [[ axg //  ]] 20:57, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

They look brilliant, AxG - you are definitely a superstar. I'm not sure how it would work for {{Esc}} and {{Esccnty}} - or if it is even possible. Wes Mouse 22:13, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
{{Esccnty}} has been done, however, with it already using "y=" for the year, I've put the Dancers and Musicians code as "x=". Do you think {{Escyr}} should also use "x=" for ease of use across the templates, or stick with "y="? As for {{Esc}}, that may take some more time. -- [[ axg //  ]] 22:43, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
"x=" sounds better. Or would "e=" (as in Eurovision) be more use? X might get people thinking Eurovision has become X-Factor lol. Wes Mouse 22:46, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - Issue 42[edit]

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Issue 42

Repeated policy breaking and several other issues are causing great concerns within the project.
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Why did you initially reverted my edits on the Newsletter? --Gce (talk) 11:49, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Because the newsletter must only be edited by members of the Newsletter Coordinating team. You added a list of new articles to be created without taking some factors into account the checks that are done before they get included in a newsletter publication - for example, all potential new articles get checked for general notability guideline criteria, and then a random selection of them becomes published in the newsletter. Also the newsletter itself was not due for publication until the 31 October. Your premature editing caused the publication to be brought forward one week sooner.   Wes Mouse | chat  13:20, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Eurovision Song Contest 2015[edit]

Hey Wes it's ConnorGeorge I've got your comment you left me and would like to argue if your saying that JESC2014 can't be on there because it's 2014 and not 2015 then way if Congratulations 50 years of Eurovision on there when it was in 2005 and not 2015 I've not edited it because I would like you to take a look at it before either me or you edit that out. Keep up the good editing, Connor :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ConnorGeorge (talkcontribs) 18:57, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

I think you are getting confused Connor. OK it might be 2014 now, but the Eurovision 2015 article is about a contest happening next year, so any see also links should be regarding to events happening next year. This year (2014) should only be added to contest articles for 2014. That's why I removed it, because you added a link for 2014 to an article for 2015. I thought I had also removed the link for the Congratulations 50 Years contest as that is specific to 2005 and should only be in the "see also" section of Eurovision Song Contest 2005. Also please remember when creating new new discussions that they are placed at the bottom of any talk page and that you sign your comments by typing four tildes (~~~~).   Wes Mouse | chat  19:03, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Sorry mate I haven't been doing this too long and I totally agree with you and get where your coming from. Thanks again Connor :-) ConnorGeorge (talk) 19:28, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Not to worry, I've removed the link from the 2015 article - thank you for making me aware of it though, as it would have been missed.   Wes Mouse | chat  19:40, 21 October 2014 (UTC)