User talk:Wikiain

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Scissors John[edit]

I included this. Would you perhaps like to upload your portrait, so we can put a sample of his work in the article. I have one somewhere, but it's rather bland. I wish we had a notable and distinctive pic like Bob Hope or Elvis Presley! Amandajm (talk) 11:46, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. I have corrected my memory in Discussion: I now think that "Scissors" was not on his stand but something he said. The silhouette that I have is very well done and is framed under glass, but it is of myself and my then small daughter and I would rather maintain privacy. His stand had some good ones, including some of famous people - I think one may have been of Richard Burton. A great shame if those are all gone. You might put a request into Discussion of the article. See also Peter Goers, "Shadows Falls on our Show" (2008) <http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/opinion/shadow-falls-on-our-show/story-e6freafu-1111117346164>, which is exactly how I remember John on our one brief meeting. --Wikiain (talk) 13:18, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
I've just had a look through a box of stuff, and turned up the one he did of my grandmother. She's been dead for forty years, so I don't think she'll complain! Amandajm (talk) 15:36, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Meilleurs vœux ![edit]

Bonne Année 2011 !

Bonne Année 2011 ! --Frania W. (talk) 22:17, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Et meilleurs vœux, également, Frania - de l'Australie!! Feux d'artifice à Sydney--Wikiain (talk) 22:59, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

De l'Australie ??? Mais il y a des feux d'artifice partout !!! Enjoy life... --Frania W. (talk) 00:41, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

re: your message[edit]

Hi Wikiain, I've left a reply to your message on my talk page -- Marek.69 talk 00:07, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Wikiain, I've left you another reply Marek.69 talk 00:24, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Australian Defence Force Rank abbreviations[edit]

You may (or may not) find Talk:List of Companions of the Order of Australia#Australian Defence Force Rank abbreviations of interest. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 02:01, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for "warning" me. If anything comes up that we couldn't possibly resolve without your help, I'll drop you a line here. Meanwhile, thanks for your input - I've found it helpful and useful. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:45, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you on Macquarie Place[edit]

Just to let you know they are currently moving the Lewers fountain with work in progress.Foofbun (talk) 07:03, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

I shall proceed immediately to an inspection via the Paragon. Thank you. --Wikiain (talk) 23:11, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Napoleon[edit]

Hi! Let's examine http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Napoleonic_code&diff=452717051&oldid=452660440

Firstly this is the English Wikipedia so we use names as stated in English. Please do not put an acute accent on "Napoleon" on EN - it's not necessary. Secondly, I understand that his title is "Napoleon I" - But unless there's a possibility that people may be confused, we generally go by the common name. I.E. Napoleon I redirects to "Napoleon" So in Wikipedia articles you don't need his title. Just say "Napoleon" and that's it WhisperToMe (talk) 17:31, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Normally, I'd agree. But to me it looks right to say "Napoléon I" when the same sentence already has "code Napoléon". There seems to be a comfortable transition to the article later having plain "Napoleon". Nobody is likely to be confused. I have, however, removed the outdated redirect need from the link from "Napoléon I" to "Napoleon". --Wikiain (talk) 23:06, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
From my understanding, usually the publication uses the English name even when a variant of the foreign name appears. I.E. "Tōkyō Station is located in Tokyo." ("Tōkyō" is the Hepburn transcription of the name "東京" but in English we say "Tokyo" without the macrons) WhisperToMe (talk) 00:11, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
That example doesn't seem to me to be really comparable. It is a relation between two English transliterations, where most English readers would be unable to read the original at all. I wouldn't die in a ditch to resist unaccented "Napoleon I", but to drop the accent inside a single sentence looks like the writer has made a mistake. Chacun(e) à son goût? --Wikiain (talk) 00:43, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Clarification[edit]

Could I bother you to clarify this edit? How was correcting that link not constructive? Swarm 20:58, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Apologies - I've now undone my change. I had thought that you had just duplicated "American", but in the cold light of morning "Americans" is the same sort of thing as "British people". --Wikiain (talk) 02:11, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

R (Bancoult) v Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs (No 2)[edit]

Hey; re your edit here, I see no problem with including a redlink in that form. Wikipedia was built on the things, and it might be an idea to give the guy time to write such an article before deciding it wasn't needed. Ironholds (talk) 03:44, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Ironholds. I've now looked at Help:Link and see that it says "If a red link is clicked, the user is taken to a page where it is possible to create a page under the redlinked title." In this instance, writing a new page would not be a simple task and I can think of arguments why all of the Bancoult litigation should be together. But I appreciate your judgement. --Wikiain (talk) 04:39, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
I do plan to get round to writing an article for the first Bancoult case at some point. Just a bit busy atm Quickbeam44 (talk) 23:47, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Looking forward to it! I hadn't meant to suggest that it wasn't needed. --Wikiain (talk) 02:47, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Digest (Roman law).[edit]

Hi Wikiain, in the edit summary you wrote "Not usually italicised", but I've followed other examples like this one. Could you please explain me the difference or redirect me where I can read and learn the rule to be used in such cases? Thanks a lot. --Mauro Lanari (talk) 23:17, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi Mauro. Scholars of Roman law usually do not italicise the titles of Justinian's works: e.g. HF Jolowicz and Barry Nicholas, Historical Introduction to Roman Law (3rd edn 1972); JAC Thomas, Textbook of Roman Law (1976). However, 'Digest' is italicised in Alan Watson's preface to his translation of it (paperback edn). It appears to me that a reason why it is usually not italicised would be that it is usually written along with its Latin name 'Digesta' and other expressions in Latin, which are almost always italicised. To italicise both could confuse the eye. I'd follow that for this article. Whichever way we go, of course we should be consistent throughout the article and in other articles on Justinian's works - and the same for articles on similar works such as the Theodosian Code. The situation of frequently citing in both English and Latin might not arise so often for a literary work, such as that of Pliny. --Wikiain (talk) 00:19, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
I apologize, professor, I was forgetting to thank you for the beautiful and personalized lesson. --Mauro Lanari (talk) 20:40, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
My pleasure, Mauro --Wikiain (talk) 01:45, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Puisne[edit]

Hi wikiain, thanks for pointing that out. I was trying to make the lead section consistent with later usage in the article where the term was used with no explanation. Have now removed it throughout. Melcous (talk) 00:32, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

No worries - and thanks for the other changes. --Wikiain (talk) 21:30, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Manual of style- Indigenous Austalians[edit]

Thansk for pointing out the discussion over at the manual of style page. I was inclined to make some corrections on that, where i see the uncapitalised "indigenous"- so glad i dodged that one! (Just a little shocked that there was any discussion to be had- seems pretty common to capitalise wherever i see it).WotherspoonSmith (talk) 13:33, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Me too! I've asked barnstarred User_talk:Shiftchange if has any ideas about putting this back on track. Thanks. Wikiain (talk) 17:33, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Macquarie University logo 2014.png[edit]

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Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 18:32, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Stefan2, but it swiftly ceased to be an orphan. I uploaded it in order to put it into the article Macquarie University, where it appears at the bottom of the infobox and is mentioned in section 1.1. "Arms". Wikiain (talk) 06:33, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Memorial[edit]

It is interesting that there was silence in the Hall during the flypast. I was outside under the sun and the sound was heard in the middle of Jerusalem, drowning it out. I looked up into a bright blue sky and saw the unexpected planes flying beyond the spires of the cathedral and beyond the purple haze of jacarandas in full bloom. It scattered the birds which flew out of the plane trees and away in their own formation just as the "missing man" peeled off. It was extremely moving. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 05:32, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Whiteghost. In the recording on ABC iView, there is a gap between "Jerusalem" and the flypast and the flypast is silent - which is what I remember. The "missing man" peeling off in silence was very moving. However, I've removed the reference to silence, because on reflection it did seem unlikely that four jets flying fairly low would be silent, rather that their noise did not penetrate the hall (good soundproofing!). I would guess that, as is common with live broadcasts, there was a precautionary delay of a few seconds - resulting in an overlap experienced by someone outside. That the birds flew off in their own formation is beautiful. The press haven't made anything of William Barton's solo - it was amazing and the hall reverberated. It reminded me of Jimi Hendrix's reported but unrecorded tribute to Martin Luther King Jr. In case you're wondering, I was in the hall not as a dignitary but as a ticketed member of the public - stating in my application that I teach constitutional law may have been an advantage. Wikiain (talk) 23:30, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I suppose there was a delay but I hadn't expected the flypast so the effect was all the more powerful. Apparently, there was silence and noise as well as the great hymn all at once. Appropriately complex! I was pleased that the flypast was added to the article - I couldn't because I had no information about the event or the planes. It needs a reference though. Do you have one? Also, I think that Whitlam's goals for his program should be added because not only are they are textbook quality business goals, but after thinking them through over a long period, they drove his actions and he was so committed to them that he wanted them mentioned in the memorial. What do you think? By the way, the person standing next to me had come from Dural, and another I spoke to had come from Braidwood, via Goulburn, having got up at 0300 to attend. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 00:43, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
I've given the flypast a ref - it was announced in small print on the back of the programme and I missed it, so the extra event was a pleasant surprise to me too and I think to many others inside. You can see that page among the letters in yesterday's SMH. One of the letters sets out graphically the annoyance of someone who came without a ticket. I've read of people being turned away who had come from very far, even Perth. Those of us queuing with a "ticket" were aware that others were upset at being refused, who it seemed did have a "ticket". Perhaps they thought that the email acknowledging their application was sufficient. It read:
Thank you for your email regarding the State Memorial Service for the Honourable Edward Gough Whitlam AC QC.
We are responding on behalf of the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet.
A State Memorial Service for the Honourable Edward Gough Whitlam will be held on Wednesday 5 November 2014 at the Sydney Town Hall, commencing at 11 am. Guests attending this service should be seated by 10 am. The Memorial Service will be broadcast on ABC TV.
If you are seeking information regarding attendance can you please provide the following information;
Full name and title
Telephone contact details
Association with Mr Whitlam and his family e.g. former colleague, friend, member of the public
Alternatively you can phone 1800 146 713 between 7.00 am and 7.00 pm from Saturday 25 October until Friday 31 October 2014.
I wrote back with those details, was phoned to check me out, and then received an email beginning:
I am pleased to advise that seating within the Sydney Town Hall will be available for you at the State Memorial Service for the Honourable Edward Gough Whitlam AC QC on Wednesday, November 5th.
It went on to advise bringing a copy of it and photo ID - and that was my successful "ticket". I don't think we need to include these difficulties in the article, but this is one reason why I have specified in a ref that DPMC was responsible for the arrangements. That included seating Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd side by side.
Whitlam's goals were covered extensively by speakers, as you will recall, especially in a long list of them from Noel Pearson. Perhaps we can leave that to be assumed and, if desired, followed up by reading the published transcripts. Otherwise there would be duplication of earlier material. Wikiain (talk) 02:29, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
Good point re the goals being listed in the eulogies. That was what brought them to my attention. For encyclopaedic value, it is very good that we now have links to them. I agree that seating problems are not relevant for the article. For the sake of balance, noting the high level of interest, as has been done, is all that is needed.
I wouldn't have expected that everyone could get in to the Hall and I thought that the screening arrangements outside were excellent. I assume that were installed when they realised the numbers. On the other hand, perhaps this was just the ABC doing a good job quite independently. Any fault seems to lie in DPMC not following up and advising the "ticketed" people that there were more "tickets" issued than places available so that they could plan to watch from outside, where one's attendance still registered respect for the man. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 03:10, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
Amen to all of that. They also got very, very lucky with the weather - you'll remember the storm around 3.40-50. Wikiain (talk) 03:49, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
Oooh! Well done with that photo. Excellent! I added some categories. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 21:13, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

A draft that needs help[edit]

Hi Wikiain,

There is a draft on the Bail Act 2013 that was developed following the 2014 Sydney hostage crisis. Its author is trying to get it up to publishing standard. I realise this is not specifically your area, but if you had some time, you might be able to check its readiness and perhaps improve it a bit. Cheers, Whiteghost.ink (talk) 02:20, 27 December 2014 (UTC)