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English English: Hello and welcome to my talk page on the English Wikipedia. I also have talk pages on the Meta Wikipedia (for templates and interwiki) and Wikimedia Commons (for images and internationalization) that I check less often. You should e-mail me if your issue is time sensitive or private. I also occasionally read my talk pages on the English Wikibooks, Spanish Wikipedia, German Wikipedia, French Wikipedia, and other projects. You may leave me a message at any of the sites if there is no hurry.

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[edit] Talkback

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Hello, Willscrlt. You have new messages at Kudpung's talk page.
Message added 16:36, 26 November 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Sorry about the broken link - I'd really appreciate if you could take a look. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:47, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Hand Grenade (cocktail)

Several years ago you removed a PROD from Hand grenade (drink), and on the talk page you elaborated that there was a general effort to improve cocktail articles and that the article would be deleted if it could not be improved. I just came across it and it doesn't have a singled 3rd party source, or even a useful source of any kind. Could you take another look at it and do whatever is necessary to bring it up to Wikipedia standards or to delete it?   Will Beback  talk  01:27, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

YesY Done. Better now? I'd forgotten all about that cocktail. I've pretty much stopped editing any Mixed Drinks/Cocktails articles. For the most part, I'm just too busy with school to spare the time on Wikipedia. However, I hate to leave things undone, so I was happy to flesh out that article a bit more. The court ruling (which is public domain text as far as I could tell from this Website) was quite helpful, because it gave a lot of good background and historical information. It was a little difficult to write an article about a subject that is so closely tied to a single company without it sounding like an advertisement. I tried to keep it as neutral and factual as possible, and I left out quite a bit of the fluffier marketing hype that managed to get included in the ruling. Let me know what you think of it.
On a more personal note, nice to hear from you again. Hope you are doing well. :-) --Will
Much better! That's a real article. Thanks for taking time away from school to attend to this important article. ;)   Will Beback  talk  07:38, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Examiner.com is almost never a good source. It has no editorial review: once one is established as a contributor one can write anything and get paid for each visit. That's why it's blocked. I can't see what URL you're trying for. You can leave off the "http" part and then it'd be allowable. But I doubt it's usable whatever it is. If the article is written by a published expert in the field then it could be at least referenced if not linked. Not to worry, even without it the article is much better- well beyond the threshold for keeping. Thanks again for giving this topic it's due attention. (I get queazy just reading the recipe!)   Will Beback  talk  08:19, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

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[edit] Category disabling

{{helpme}} Hi Willscrlt, i'm asking for your help because you seem to know a lot about these things: Is there a way of disabling all categories on a given page? I've been looking around and couldn't find an answer. Cheers, benzband (talk) 13:55, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Benzband, I've deactivated the "help me" template because you've directed this question at a specific user. {{helpme}} is intended to be used on one's own talk page to attract people willing to help, not on someone else's talk page when directing a question to them. --Chris (talk) 14:23, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for doing that. However, i put the tag because if any other users can provide help, i'd be grateful to them too. benzband (talk) 14:30, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Well, the only thing I can think of would be to surround the categories you want to disable with HTML comment tags: <!-- -->. Is there a reason you can't just delete those categories? What is the use-case here? --Chris (talk) 14:34, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
The problem is when the categories are transcluded through templates. Say, you want to use these templates but no categories to appear on the page; when the templates don't have a nocategories= parameter or the like. benzband (talk) 15:10, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Short of a template argument (or placing the categories in a <noinclude> block) I don't believe this is possible. --Chris (talk) 17:35, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
I see. Thanks again for the help ~ benzband (talk) 10:07, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Benzband. I believe that Chris is correct, though I have been out of the loop in template development for over a year. As far as I know, there's not really anyway to do that on a page-wide basis. That is the reason why the category suppression feature was created in the first place. If I were going to try to shut off all the auto-generated categories on a given page, the first thing I would do is try to add the appropriate attributes to the template as described in WP:CATSUP. I think there is now one preferred method, so I'd start with that. Then, for any templates that do not follow that standard, you could try some of the older/alternative attributes and see if that shuts them off. Also, check the documentation for the various templates to see if they mention it as a feature. If not, you could follow the WP:CATSUP instructions to add that feature to the templates, and that would benefit the entire wiki. I'm sorry that there's not a better/easier solution that I can think of. If you run into some real snafus with a template, you can leave me a message, and I will try to help you. I'm a fulltime student, so my time is very limited, but I always try to help those who ask for it. :-) Good luck! —Willscrlt “Talk” ) 05:12, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you for your advice. I suppose i'll do like you said about the parameters whenever possible. And best of luck with your studies! :) - benzband (talk) 10:09, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Pisco Sour

I noticed your comment on the article and would like to notify you that I have made some massive improvements to it. You can check them out at Pisco Sour. Given your expertise on the subject of cocktails (and my lack of it), I would appreciate any suggestions you may have towards further improving the article. I would like to at least take it into GA-status; if you could review it that would even be better. Thank you.--MarshalN20 | Talk 04:00, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Wow! That was an awesome job. :-) It makes me so happy to see an article that I worked on improve that much. Thank you. I do not have time to read the entire article (tons of homework that I am trying to plow through--only here right now because I am doing research), but I did skim it. The main problem I see with the article right now is a serious lack of inline citations, especially concerning the Peru/Chile status. For example, you state the the drink originated in Peru, but there is not one citation next to that claim. My experience with the article tells me that will be mercilessly edited and re-edited back and forth based on the nationality of the author. (My earlier research agrees with your statement, so there may be some inline references lurking in the history of the article back in 2007 that you can use.) Seriously, 10 different inline references scattered throughout the paragraphs may seem excessive, but the claims and counter-claims (usually unsubstantiated) by both sides can get really annoying. The more citations, the less likely someone is to dispute that (though they may well wipe out all of the citations they don't like contrary to NPOV and other policies here). As to my own expertise, it's really very limited. I just cleaned up and organized pretty much all the mixed drink and related articles here on Wikipedia. It was quite an education, but it's all book learning. I have very little practical experience in the topic. I will look at it again when I have more time (probably after this weekend). Feel free to ping me here again if you don't hear back from me. Once again, thanks! —Willscrlt “Talk” ) 09:13, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
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