User talk:Winkelvi

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Here in Wikipedia, I go by "Winkelvi". I enjoy patrolling the "Recent changes" page, looking for vandalism by IP addresses. As a reviewer, I'm also often reviewing and then either accepting or rejecting pending changes. While I try to be accurate with the reverts I make and the subsequent warnings I leave on talk pages, I am only human and will make mistakes from time to time. If you're here because of an editing issue or a revert I've made to one or more of your edits and you feel I've made an error, please leave me a civil message on my talk page If you want to talk about article edits, it's really best to do so at the article's talk page. If you do so, and your comments regard changes I've made there, please ping me.

When you leave a message on my talk page and a response from me is appropriate, I will reply to you here, not on your talk page. Having half a conversation on a talk page and going back and forth between pages is unnecessarily confusing and a pain in the ass.

If you're here to whine, complain, or express anger, please go elsewhere. Any whining, complaining, angry posts will be deleted rather than responded to.

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If you've had any kind of issue or misunderstanding in your dealings with me, there is an excellent article/essay on Wikipedia editors with Asperger's found here that might help.

The Signpost: 03 December 2014[edit]

Helen Hooven Santmyer, age at death 90[edit]

Earlier today I changed the age of Helen Hooven Santmyer at the time of her death. In the box at the top of the article, it said that she was 90 at the time of death. That agrees with the date of birth and death given in the box in the article. In the article in the "death" section, the text says she was 88 at the time of death. This age does not agree with the dates of birth and death or the part of the article that says she became a best seller at the age of 88, two years before her death. Therefore I tried to change the text. Then I got your message that you had rejected my correction. Perhaps the box needs correction, although it seems to go with my recollection of this author. One or the other has to be incorrect: please reconsider and correct the article so that it does not contain contradictions.

Plainreader (talk) 03:36, 7 December 2014 (UTC)plainreader

You are correct, Plainreader. I have changed it back to age 90. Thanks. -- WV 08:15, 7 December 2014 (UTC)


Hi Winkelvi! I can respect your final decision on the Play album page by Moby. However, there is a host of credible critical sources and reviews for the album, as well as some background sources. What more is neccesary? Kind regards, KL13 (Kingslove2013 (talk) 15:57, 7 December 2014 (UTC)).

As the template states, more references are needed. -- WV 15:58, 7 December 2014 (UTC)


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Casting aspersions[edit]

You posted a long comment on AN/I making all sorts of accusations and assertions, but without providing any diffs or links as evidence.[1] It would be good practice to refactor your remarks to either include evidence, or to strike out whatever statements about other editors you don't care to support with evidence. Following this guidance will help keep yourself from being sanctioned. Additionally, don't ever make statements, as you did here[2], that could be interpreted as creating a hostile environment for women, young editors or other demographics. You could have been blocked for that edit, but you are getting off the hook because it's stale. I suggest you go strike it out. Thank you. Jehochman Talk 15:33, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Jehochman, I have absolutely no idea what you are referring to specifically in regard to creating a hostile environment for women...or other demographics. I think you mean the "be an adult" comment in regard to offending children, but the rest? I'm clueless as to what I said that would do what you say it would do. As far as adding diffs, etc., I did ask to be allowed time to do that. But, honestly, I'm not interested in seeing sanctions made, I guess diffs could be counterproductive in that area. In that case, what do you suggest? Strikeouts? Thanks. -- WV 16:10, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

If you are really that clueless, then I am afraid I might have to block your account until you figure it out, because your style of communication is not acceptable. Is that the result that you want? In the diff above you said, "Getting your panties in a wad over a request for comments you asked for is not helpful to anyone. " Would you say that to a female colleague who you didn't know very well at work or at school? If it's not appropriate for those environs, it's not appropriate here. Jehochman Talk 16:15, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
Jehochman, I'm not clueless, I have Asperger Syndrome (as is broadcast at the top of this page). People with Aspergers are generally quite intelligent with high-IQs. So, no, not clueless, just asking for specifics (something Aspies need at times to understand what someone is referring to vaguely). -- WV 16:20, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
"Panties in a wad" is a popular colloquialism. How is it offensive to women or children? It's along the same lines as "Don't get your panties in a twist" and "Don't get your underwear in a bunch". There's nothing gender-offensive specific about it. It simply means "Don't take things so seriously". You're the first person I've ever known who thinks it is a slam against women and would be inappropriate for children (kids actually use that phrase, you know). But if you see it as something horrible and gender-offensive, I will strike it out. -- WV 16:25, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
Just don't use it, okay? Trust me on this. If you have difficulties with social cues, and I really don't want to get into any medical conditions because we can't verify or consider them as relevant, please trust others to guide you. Social interaction is a skill that anybody can improve no matter what level they start at. If you were to meet the Queen of England would you use colloquialisms, or would you stick to the most proper English you could? Try to do that on Wikipedia. Jehochman Talk 16:28, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
Jehochman,Asperger Syndrome isn't a "medical condition". Obviously, since you are an administrator, it would be helpful for you bone up on what ASDs are about since a large portion of Wikipedia editors have some form of Autism.
Since the Queen of England isn't a Wikipedia editor and I doubt I will ever meet her much less have a reason to use the above colloquialism in her presence, your analogy is ridiculous. Regardless, I will make a mental note of never using that term here again (which won't be hard, because I don't think I've ever said it here before).
And, would you please answer the question I posed above? One more thing: I can't find the phrase you find offensive at BLPN (where the link you left led). I've done a page search there and it doesn't come up except as referenced repeatedly by the other editor. -- WV 16:34, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
Jehochman, I see now that you redacted the comment yourself. Now I'm really confused. Why would you redact it and then ask me to strike it out or redact it myself? I've been chasing my tail trying to find this comment because you asked me to (doing something I really didn't have time to do this morning) when it no longer exists because you removed it. Why would you not tell me you removed it already? You made it sound urgent, you even threatened me with a block, and so, in response to that threat and your indication of urgency, I've just wasted a considerable amount of time I didn't have. -- WV 17:14, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Sorry, I redacted it for you; "panties in a wad" became "upset", which is literally what you meant. I had meant to tell you but got distracted. You can search the page for "upset". Look, Tenebrae is a lightning rod for you. Your best move is to pretend that an interaction ban is in effect. Don't follow them. Don't respond to them. Don't talk about them, and most certainly, don't revert them. Just pretend they don't exist and go about your editing. If Tenebrae does something wrong, some other editor will probably notice and stop them. Jehochman Talk 17:16, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for the response and the advice. But one thing I'd like clarified: when you say "don't talk about them", are you saying I shouldn't even mention their username if I need to refer to them in the most extreme of circumstances (circumstances spelled out in the policy on IBAN) and if I do, I will face a block or sanction? -- WV 17:33, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
You are not (yet) subject to an IBAN, but certainly you can utilize the exemptions. If for instance, the editor comes here to terrorize you, you can ask me or any administrator for help, or file a report on AN/I. I strongly recommend not using AN/I. It's a place where quick decisions are made, often without thoroughly considering the history and evidence. Jehochman Talk 18:47, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Understood. Thank you for the response. -- WV 19:17, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

My Apologies![edit]

Hello! A few days ago, I contributed an edit to the page Jimmy Fallon. In his birth name, I added Jr. to it. I saw that you deleted it, and I knew I did something wrong. I'm very sorry for that, it was an honest mistake. I thought I could've added Jr. because he was named after his father. Anyways, sorry! SavannahHeartsWiki (talk) 03:22, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

on the Tvtropes Deletions[edit]

I was doing this as a sort of personal experiment for the sake of seeing it on, where you could "listen" to wikipedia edits as they take place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:46, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Those edits were disruptive and against policy. Don't do it again. -- WV 19:51, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 10 December 2014[edit]

My talk page[edit]

No need to template me. - Cwobeel (talk) 22:10, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Such reminders can be helpful for those who keep making particular errors. Especially when violating NPA is involved. -- WV 22:14, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

I don't need your reminders, and I don't welcome your intervention. - Cwobeel (talk) 22:22, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
You could have just deleted the template and let it go at that, instead you chose again to lash out. More unnecessary rudeness from you noted. -- WV 22:24, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 17 December 2014[edit]