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Welcome![edit]

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Again, welcome! abakharev 05:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Civility[edit]

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Edit summaries like reverted edits by a nazi sympathizer are unacceptable abakharev 05:20, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Relax[edit]

Calm down! "Nazi Symphatisator"? "Sily"? You will get blocked is that what you want??

"Nazi Sympathizer" was two years ago. -YMB29 (talk) 01:13, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Я тоже Русский, и согласен с тобой! Ну чтобы выжить в Википедии надо искать нетральность. Ну выругаешь ты его, и что? Тебя блокируют нахрен и все, он будет радоваться! Нужно тебе это?? Культурно спорь, даже не с культурными людьми. Это всего лишь Википедия. Спокойнее! Знаешь сколько тут западников которые с радостью заблакируют всех Руских и привратят Википедию в свой агитационный ларек? Ну дашь им причину блокировать тебя! Кому от этого легче станет? Спокойнее! Тебя никто не торопит. Kostan1 (talk) 22:18, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Я знаю, но за "silly" меня не заблокируют. -YMB29 (talk) 01:13, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Please enter the talk page of the article. Kostan1 (talk) 11:52, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I uploaded the new version[edit]

Hope you agree on it. Kostan1 (talk) 11:28, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I owe you an apology[edit]

I'm sorry for taking you as the POV pusher in the article and for speaking to you with rudness. The reverts that Biophys just did, while at the same time you chose the talk page to bring up the points you don't agree with clearly showed me who is the POV pusher. I'm sorry. Kostan1 (talk) 13:43, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry you were not rude. I don't know what we are going to do with Biophys; talking to him is like banging your head against the wall... -YMB29 (talk) 00:44, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Please bring a link saying the NKVD Order No. 00689 lasted only for two years. Kostan1 (talk) 13:59, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I linked the article in my version and on the talk page. NKVD Order No. 00689 changed NKVD Order No. 00486. -YMB29 (talk) 00:44, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

A barnstar (your first?)[edit]

Original Barnstar.png The Original Barnstar
For helping to bring the Human rights in the Soviet Union to an NPOV, for being civil and using the talk page for things you don't agree with, for reverting a user who clearly pushes his NPOV into the nutral version, even though you yourself don't agree with many things in it. In other words, for maturity. Continue to be a great user! Kostan1 (talk) 11:00, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


Thank you. -YMB29 (talk) 04:55, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Let's talk?[edit]

Hi YMB29, maybe we should talk a little instead of edit waring? Is that you who edits in Russian WP as Deerhunter?Biophys (talk) 01:50, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

No it is not me.
If you want to finally talk then I am waiting for you to do so on the article's talk page. -YMB29 (talk) 01:58, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Maybe later. I just wonder: you are doing almost nothing but reverts in a single article for the entire month. Do not you have anything better to do? You apparently came here from Russian WP. So, what are your real interests?Biophys (talk) 02:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
I am not from Russian WP.
Look at what you are doing in that article. I can't add anything to the article because of your senseless reverting. If you can't discuss, then maybe you should stay away instead of always reverting. -YMB29 (talk) 16:17, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps it would be best if we both edited something else. But this is up to you. Regards,Biophys (talk) 18:21, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
For some time maybe, but any future changes or reverts will have to be explained if asked. -YMB29 (talk) 18:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Arbitration case regarding the Eastern European mailing list[edit]

The Arbitration Committee has passed a motion to open a case to investigate allegations surrounding a private Eastern European mailing list. The contents of the motion can be viewed here.

You have been named as one of the parties to this case. Please take note of the explanations given in italics at the top of that section; if you have any further questions about the list of parties, please feel free to contact me on my talk page.

The Committee has explicitly requested that evidence be presented within one week of the case opening; ie. by September 25. Evidence can be presented on the evidence subpage of the case; please ensure that you follow the Committee instructions regarding the responsible and appropriate submission of evidence, as set out in the motion linked previously, should you choose to present evidence.

Please further note that, due to the exceptional nature of this case (insofar as it centers on the alleged contents of a private mailing list), the Committee has decided that the normal workshop format will not be used. The notice near the top of the cases' workshop page provides a detailed explanation of how it will be used in this case.

For the Arbitration Committee,
Daniel (talk) 01:16, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Editing restrictions[edit]

Please be informed that we are both placed under editing restrictions.Biophys (talk) 17:15, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Nope, this is not true. Only members of the secret email list are topic banned. The list of members is here: [1]. You can continue editing. Offliner (talk) 08:55, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know. Looks like Biophys does not want me to edit because he can't revert like he is used to. -YMB29 (talk) 16:45, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Arbcom clerk warning[edit]

You have recently engaged in a series of posts on ArbCom pages which contained highly charged assertions and hence breached the specific guidelines on user conduct handed down by ArbCom concerning the EEML case. You are thus receiving a first and final warning. Any further misconduct will result in a ban from the relevant ArbCom pages until the conclusion of the EEML case (except in direct response to an ArbCom question). Violation of that ban will result in blocking. Manning (talk) 23:29, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Read, read, read....[edit]

You have very certain opinions in the talk page of the Winter War. I see you are interested in Finnish-Russian wars, so I suggest you read some books written of these subjects. It would help as all, as there would be a necessity to explain military history basics. As the Finnish historian Timo Vihavainen said a week ago in an interviews, there is not so much different view of historical event between Finnish and Russian historians. Only some marginal Stalinists (he used the word, I would use some softer title) still dispute with historians. For a start, you could watch television documentry (spoken Russian, with Finnish subtitles) by Russian Televisio Channel in You Tube [2]. It has 10 episodes, total about 1 hour. Peltimikko (talk) 21:22, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

All those who don't share the Finnish view are Stalinists...
Anyway, thanks for the link, but what was the point of this message? I am not the one who is making POVed, uninformed edits or comments. -YMB29 (talk) 00:08, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
I am sorry if I gave impression of that only the Finnish is right. Opening of the Moscow Archieves in the 1990s has generally backed the Finnish view of the Winter War, but also deepends our understanding of the war. However, as I have wrote in the Continuation War's talk page, the Finnish historians have also have to changed their earlier views. For example, earlier the Finnish histography saw the Continuation War as a separate war between Finland and the USSR, but in 1990s and especially in 2000s, historians, especially younger, see the war and an ally with Germany against the USSR. Peltimikko (talk) 08:02, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Well yes I agree that there is a better understanding now. However, there is still a lot that can be debated and subject to different interpretations. Are the Finnish archives open like the former Soviet ones? -YMB29 (talk) 15:25, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
The Finnish archives are located in "Arkistolaitos" [3] (trivia: before 2008 there was the War Archives (Sota-arkisto), but became a part of bigger The National Archives Service (=Arkistolaitos)). Generally speaking the Finnish archives has been open for years, especially after the Soviet Union collapse, but there is an excetion: a couple of years ago the Finnish Defence Forces release couple of banned photos which can be seen in Commons (they were either too cruel or politically incorrect). Peltimikko (talk) 23:14, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the info. -YMB29 (talk) 15:44, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Re : Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Eastern European mailing list[edit]

This arbitration case has been closed, and the final decision may be viewed at the link above.

  • User:Piotrus resigned the administrator tools during the case proceedings and may only seek to regain adminship by a new request for adminship or by request to the Arbitration Committee.
  • User:Piotrus is banned for three months. At the conclusion of his ban, a one year topic ban on articles about Eastern Europe, their talk pages, and any related process discussion, widely construed, shall take effect.
  • User:Digwuren is banned for one year. He is directed to edit Wikipedia from only a single user account, and advise the Arbitration Committee of the name of the account that he will use. Should he not advise the committee by the end of the one year ban, he will remain indefinitely banned until a single account is chosen.
  • User:Digwuren is placed on a one year topic ban on articles about Eastern Europe, their talk pages, and any related process discussion, widely construed. This shall take effect following the expiration of both above mentioned bans.
  • The following users are topic banned from articles about Eastern Europe, their associated talk pages, and any process discussion about same, widely construed, for one year:
  • User:Jacurek is topic banned from articles about Eastern Europe, their associated talk pages, and any process discussion about same, widely construed, for six months.
  • User:Tymek is strongly admonished for having shared his account password. He is directed to keep his account for his own exclusive use, and not to allow any other person to use it under any circumstance.
  • The editors sanctioned above (Piotrus, Digwuren, Martintg, Tymek, Jacurek, Radeksz, Dc76, Vecrumba, Biruitorul, Miacek) are prohibited from commenting on or unnecessarily interacting with Russavia on any page of Wikipedia, except for purposes of legitimate and necessary dispute resolution.
  • All the participants to the mailing list are strongly admonished against coordinating on-wiki behavior off-wiki and directed to keep discussion of editing and dispute resolution strictly on wiki and in public. All editors are reminded that the editorial process and dispute resolution must take place on Wikipedia itself, using the article talk pages and project space for this purpose. No discussion held off-wiki can lead to a valid consensus, the basis of our editorial process. Off-wiki coordination is likely to lead to echo chambers where there is a false appearance of neutrality and consensus.

For the Arbitration Committee, Mailer Diablo 17:42, 22 December 2009 (UTC) - Discuss this

Re:[edit]

I saw your comment about me in Human rights in the Soviet Union. Next time, if you are going to complain about me personally, please do it at appropriate noticeboards, such as AE, ANI, etc. Thank you.Biophys (talk) 15:21, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

With regard to this your comment. Remember, WP:NPA, please.Biophys (talk) 22:05, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Now I can only quote the words by the sock of Mvei (see above at your talk page): "Ну выругаешь ты его, и что? Тебя блокируют нахрен и все, он будет радоваться! Нужно тебе это?? Культурно спорь, даже не с культурными людьми." Do you agree with Kostan1? I do.Biophys (talk) 05:09, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Are you trying to provoke me into saying something? -YMB29 (talk) 05:40, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I responded at article talk page because this is mostly about the content, at least on my part.Biophys (talk) 22:30, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I asked an advice here. Biophys (talk) 17:14, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

AE[edit]

I made a suggestion here. You may respond if you wish. Thank you.Biophys (talk) 13:16, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Russavia-Biophys[edit]

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Russavia-Biophys/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Russavia-Biophys/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, ~ Amory (utc) 05:15, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Please be informed that I commented here.Biophys (talk) 22:28, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Russavia-Biophys[edit]

This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following is a summary of the remedies enacted:

  • Russavia (talk · contribs) is prohibited from commenting on or unnecessarily interacting with editors from the EEML case, except in the case of necessary dispute resolution.
  • Vlad fedorov (talk · contribs), Ellol (talk · contribs), and YMB29 (talk · contribs) are banned from editing articles about the Soviet Union and former Soviet Republics, and all related articles, broadly construed, for a period of no less than 6 months. At the end of 6 months, they may each apply to have their ban reviewed by the Arbitration Committee.
  • Biophys (talk · contribs) is banned from editing articles about the Soviet Union and former Soviet Republics, and all related articles, broadly construed, for a period of no less than 1 year. At the end of 1 year, Biophy may apply to have the ban reviewed by the Arbitration Committee.
  • Consecutive to that topic ban, Biophys is restricted to 1 revert per week per article in the topic area for 1 year.
  • Russavia and Vlad federov are admonished for posting personal information of other editors.
  • Editors wishing to edit in the areas dealt with in this case are advised to edit carefully, to adopt Wikipedia's communal approaches (including appropriate conduct, dispute resolution, neutral point of view, no original research and verifiability) in their editing, and to amend behaviors that are deemed to be of concern by administrators. An editor unable or unwilling to do so may wish to restrict their editing to other topics, in order to avoid sanctions.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, ~ Amory (utc) 22:08, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Discuss this

Editing restrictions and ongoing discussions[edit]

I'm sorry to hear you have been banned from editing or rather participating to the ongoing discussions on the Continuation War and the related topics. I'm rather dubious that making an appeal for getting you 'rights' to at least participate in the ongoing talk page discussions would do much good after reading the arbitration decisions. Though we have been mainly disagreeing on topics and occasionally i felt nearly like coming into blows that is pretty much exactly what should be expected when discussing a contested topic with able opponent.

I could still make an appeal for at least talk page rights or rather rights to continue and finish the currently ongoing discussions if you think that would be any of any help. Not sure where and how to do it though - I'm not really familiar with wiki arbitration system. - Wanderer602 (talk) 16:20, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your concern. Yes even though we had intense arguments we could still come to an agreement and compromise (which was impossible with that other user).
Looks like the decision won't be changed now. Don't know why they made it; I guess they were in a rush to close the case... I asked about posting on talk pages and continuing the discussion, but this is not allowed also.
In a couple of months I can ask for a reconsideration of the topic ban. -YMB29 (talk) 20:11, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration motion regarding Eastern European mailing list[edit]

Following a motion at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Amendment:

Remedy 20 of Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Eastern European mailing list ("Miacek topic banned") is lifted.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, NW (Talk) 00:12, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Discuss this

Arbitration motion regarding Russavia-Biophys[edit]

Following the request for clarification that you filed at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Amendment on 21 April 2011, the Arbitration Committee has resolved that:

Remedy 8 ("YMB29 topic banned") of [Russavia-Biophys] is terminated, effective immediately. YMB29 is placed on a one-revert-per-day restriction in the relevant topic area ("articles about the Soviet Union and former Soviet Republics, and all related articles") for a period of one year. YMB29 is reminded to abide by the principles discussed in the decision, as well as all applicable Wikipedia policies and guidelines, in his future editing, and that he remains subject to discretionary sanctions under the terms of related decisions should he violate them.

For the Arbitration Committee, AGK [] 12:17, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Discuss this


Your use of templates[edit]

From Template:Disputed & Template:Dubious and from other templates you prefer to post across the articles... All actually require the person making the claim to actually post description of the issue to the talk page. They are not for flagging items that an editor simply thinks might be incorrect. - Wanderer602 (talk) 16:49, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Again, please refer to Template:Dubious, Template:Synthesis, Template:Or before using them. Thank you. - Wanderer602 (talk) 07:31, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
We are discussing the issues on the talk page, so they are valid. -YMB29 (talk) 15:00, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Actually you should mark clearly in the talk what exactly in the tagged section is the problem, blanketing the article with tags and then stating that discussion is ongoing without clearly stating what exactly was the problem with the tagged sections is clearly not the way usage of those templates. - Wanderer602 (talk) 16:04, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Notification of ANI (incident) report[edit]

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. - Wanderer602 (talk) 07:05, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Mediation Cabal[edit]

Hi YMB29! Sorry for the few days' gap in discussion on the dispute resolution noticeboard. I've gone ahead and started a thread at the Mediation Cabal about Battle of Tali-Ihantala to get the ball rolling. The mediation page is located at Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/24 October 2011/Battle of Tali-Ihantala. You don't need to do anything just yet - the next stage is finding a mediator. If you want to fill out more details about the dispute itself then that's fine, but there shouldn't be any discussion there just yet. Hopefully we can all find a speedy and peaceful resolution to all the issues there. All the best — Mr. Stradivarius 14:07, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi there, hope everything is going well for you. I have decided to mediate the MedCab case myself, if that is ok by you. There are some ground rules I've made which I would like agreement to - you can find them at the mediation page linked to above. Thanks — Mr. Stradivarius 05:33, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Ok thanks for deciding to mediate the case. -YMB29 (talk) 15:00, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi again YMB29. About these tags and these tags - sorry, but I think they are best left out for the duration of the mediation. I can appreciate that you might want to warn readers about the things being disputed, but because of the number of statements under dispute, I think this is better done by the neutrality dispute banner right at the top of the page. The banner at the top of the page is a big bright warning, and should be enough to make the vast majority of readers view the article with a critical eye. If either of you are still adding or removing tags while the mediation is ongoing, however, it runs the risk of making the dispute more about the tags than the actual content. Please understand that this is not making any judgements about the tagged statements themselves, but that it purely procedural. I hope you can consider my opinion here, and I trust that you will refrain from more tagging while we are in mediation. Best regards — Mr. Stradivarius 02:43, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Mediation Cabal: Case update[edit]

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Dear YMB29: Hello, this is to let you know that a Mediation Cabal case that you are involved in, or have some connection with:

Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/24 October 2011/Battle of Tali-Ihantala

is currently inactive as it has not been edited in at least a week. If the issues in the case have been resolved, please let us know on our talk page so we can close the case. If there are still issues that need to be addressed, let us know. If your mediator has become inactive, also let us know. The case will be closed in one month if it remains inactive. You can let us know what's going on by sending a message through to your mediator, Mr. Stradivarius, on their talk page. Thanks! MedcabBot (talk) 21:12, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Mediation Cabal: Case update[edit]

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Dear YMB29: Hello, this is to let you know that a Mediation Cabal case that you are involved in, or have some connection with:

Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/24 October 2011/Battle of Tali-Ihantala

is currently inactive as it has not been edited in at least a week. If the issues in the case have been resolved, please let us know on our talk page so we can close the case. If there are still issues that need to be addressed, let us know. If your mediator has become inactive, also let us know. The case will be closed in one month if it remains inactive. You can let us know what's going on by sending a message through to your mediator, Mr. Stradivarius, on their talk page. Thanks! MedcabBot (talk) 05:52, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Dispute resolution survey[edit]

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Hello YMB29. I am currently conducting a study on the dispute resolution processes on the English Wikipedia, in the hope that the results will help improve these processes in the future. Whether you have used dispute resolution a little or a lot, now we need to know about your experience. The survey takes around five minutes, and the information you provide will not be shared with third parties other than to assist in analyzing the results of the survey. No personally identifiable information will be released.

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You are receiving this invitation because you have had some activity in dispute resolution over the past year. For more information, please see the associated research page. Steven Zhang DR goes to Wikimania! 11:55, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Formal mediation has been requested[edit]

The Mediation Committee has received a request for formal mediation of the dispute relating to "Continuation War". As an editor concerned in this dispute, you are invited to participate in the mediation. Mediation is a voluntary process which resolves a dispute over article content by facilitation, consensus-building, and compromise among the involved editors. After reviewing the request page, the formal mediation policy, and the guide to formal mediation, please indicate in the "party agreement" section whether you agree to participate. Because requests must be responded to by the Mediation Committee within seven days, please respond to the request by 4 September 2012.

Discussion relating to the mediation request is welcome at the case talk page. Thank you.
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Request for mediation accepted[edit]

The request for formal mediation of the dispute concerning Continuation War, in which you were listed as a party, has been accepted by the Mediation Committee. The case will be assigned to an active mediator within two weeks, and mediation proceedings should begin shortly thereafter. Proceedings will begin at the case information page, Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Continuation War, so please add this to your watchlist. Formal mediation is governed by the Mediation Committee and its Policy. The Policy, and especially the first two sections of the "Mediation" section, should be read if you have never participated in formal mediation. For a short guide to accepted cases, see the "Accepted requests" section of the Guide to formal mediation. You may also want to familiarise yourself with the internal Procedures of the Committee.

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Please[edit]

Could you please stop repeatedly calling me "misleading" at noticeboard [4],[5]? I am not. The Soviet/Russian "candidate" degree in humanities is usually counted at best as M.S., not PhD (in US). These guys have to enroll again in PhD programs in US and spend a few years to earn their real PhD degrees. I also said "deportation" (singular). Thanks, My very best wishes (talk) 20:30, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

You did not specify which deportation.
Candidate of Historical Sciences is equivalent of a PhD in history. I don't know where you get that it is like a master's degree. -YMB29 (talk) 22:32, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
This depends on discretion of employer (e.g. university). They may ask to provide a formal certification of your diploma (there are organizations in US who do such certification). As far as I know, the result will be that a Russian "candidate" of History or political sciences is equal to M.S. But that may depend on specific organization in Russia that gave such degree (not VAK of course, but History department of MSU, for example). The programs and requirements in Russian and US PhD programs in humanities are very different. That's the problem. My very best wishes (talk) 00:48, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
There may be exceptions, but generally it is considered equal to a PhD.
If you have evidence that Asmolov is not qualified as a historian, present them. -YMB29 (talk) 02:15, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
I am not a historian myself. So you might wish to read this lecture by Doctor Miller (this is a much higher degree than "candidate", right?). Here is what he thinks:

"Исаев и Дюков. Дюков очень интересный персонаж – можете набрать его в «Википедии», найдете о нем целую статью. Александр Дюков – директор фонда Историческая память. Молодой человек, где-то ему 30 с небольшим, окончил, кажется, Историко-архивный, никогда с тех пор по профессии не работал. До недавнего времени. Создал фонд и где-то по три-четыре книжки в год сейчас издает. Откуда фонд финансируется, остается догадываться.

Я успел прочитать две книжки. Первая книжка посвящена политике УПА – Украинской повстанческой армии в отношении евреев. Книжка по содержанию более или менее пристойная. Но тут как бы совпадение интенций и исторической правды получается. Потому что ему важно было показать, что УПА плохо обходилась с евреями. Действительно, плохо обходилась. Что в этой книжке бросается в глаза, так это большое количество материалов из архивов ФСБ, которые, как отмечается, впервые вводятся в научный оборот. Как он их получил? Надо спросить у мемориальцев, как они получают документы из ФСБ. Наверное, это обычное и простое дело.

Now he tells about the book "The Great War Slandered" by Dyukov:

... Эта книга – отповедь клеветникам, опровержение самых грязных, самых лживых мифов о Великой Отечественной войне, распространяемых врагами России».

"И вот в такой стилистике вся эта книжка и написана, из чего вы можете примерно заключить, что это за человек. Итак, вот такой фонд, вот такой историк, которого Данилин называет любителем. Какие издательства издают его книжки? - «Европа», «Regnum» «Эксмо». Про них тоже можно кое-что сказать. «Regnum» возглавляет Колеров, который служил в администрации президента, «Европа» – это Павловский и его центр."

Finally, Dr. Miller asks:

"Как вы думаете, писания Дюкова кто-нибудь примет всерьез за рубежами нашего отечества? Вот мы смеемся над тем, что публикует украинский Институт народной памяти? Смеемся. И заслуженно. И они так же будут смеяться над тем, что публикует Дюков." My very best wishes (talk) 03:35, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

This is just one opinion from the Russian Wikipedia article on Dyukov. There are positive opinions too.[6]
However, again you talk about Dyukov and not Asmolov. -YMB29 (talk) 04:33, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
Historians whose renditions of Soviet history depart from incontrovertible facts and historians who look upon those historians favourably are not reliable. This is a very old argument that has long been put to bed. A degree in and of itself is not an indication of reliability. VєсrumЬа TALK 13:34, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
What "incontrovertible facts" are you talking about? It seems like any source that is not anti-Soviet is unreliable to you... -YMB29 (talk) 21:18, 16 March 2013 (UTC)'
Well, just one for instance, Dyukov maintains no Estonians were deported in cattle cars, that all rode to resettlement in Siberia in coach car trains attended by physicians and nurses for their welfare. An utter lie. It would take days to document everything wrong with what he's written, he's little more than RT's poster boy for debunking so-called Baltic lies. And I'll thank you not to engage in personal attacks.
Oh, as for the positive reviews of Dyukov's works, the individuals cited are hardly reliable as to the objectivity of Dyukov's scholarship. VєсrumЬа TALK 23:31, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
I am not engaging in personal attacks; your view is well known.
Again, this is not about Dyukov and your dislike of him. However, considering that he based his research on archival documents, I will not be surprised if he is right... -YMB29 (talk) 04:24, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Since FSB archives clearly lie (assuming his reportage is accurate, there's no third party verification), I would not be surprised if his scholarship is worthless. You know the old saying, garbage in, garbage out... Since Dyukov is well aware of testimony to the facts, his choice to call such testimony a lie is his choice. Oh, let's not forget his documentary movie blaming the Poles for starting WWII, classic victim blaming. VєсrumЬа TALK 02:57, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
So the archives lie? This is not a serious argument... -YMB29 (talk) 04:23, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

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MiG-25[edit]

Hi. It was not shared by F-14. 9 MiG-25s were shot down by F-14 and one by a F-5, whose pilot was Yadollah Javadpour. In the Tom Cooper's book is only mentioned the F-14 victories not of F-5s.Diako Zandi 20:27, 31 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diako1971 (talkcontribs)

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It says (shared) in the last column. -YMB29 (talk) 20:50, 31 January 2013 (UTC)


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Battle of Berlin article[edit]

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Hi again, YMB29: Thanks for the message at my talk page. I would only say "Back at ya'" as you're at the same point rel reverting edits for today and have been engaged there in editing against consensus for a long time.

As far as my remarks at the talk page, it does not appear that you have been taking the time to read them B4 you do blind reverts. They are highly specific both as to substance and Wikipedia policy. Instead of making personal attacks or suggesting I don't belong editing there, I'd recommend reading and digesting my remarks and applying the Wikipedia policy I've cited and explained.

Rel your personal attack and insinuation on the talk page, I will address that there at talk. Regards, Paavo273 (talk) 20:27, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Please revert yourself at Battle of Berlin talk[edit]

Hi again User:YMB29,

Please immediately revert your hiding of my comments rel Solonin. This is inappropriate and could be construed as a 3RR violation when taken with your 3 reverts in 24 hours to the article page: "A "page" means any page on Wikipedia, including talk and project space. A "revert" means any edit (or administrative action) that reverses the actions of other editors, in whole or in part (my bold), whether involving the same or different material."

In future, please do not hide other contributors' info at talk pages, especially unless you have received courtesy permission to do so.

Your prompt attention to this matter will be appreciated. Regards, Paavo273 (talk) 21:15, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

3RR does not apply to talk pages...
That was not even a revert.
You can unhide it if you wish, but you breaking it into a separate sub-section makes the discussion hard to follow. -YMB29 (talk) 21:38, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi again YMB29,
Actually the 3RR rule (see my quote from the rule above) DOES apply to talk pages. But I see your point. I've put it in its own section below, so as not to interrupt the thread. As such, feel free to delete the one you've hidden. It would have been better I see now to start a new MAIN heading for Solonin. Regards, Paavo273 (talk) 21:42, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

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Right back at you, you're not going to have it your way with pushing your agenda with unfounded opinions and no arguments here. JamesRussels (talk) 20:26, 23 September 2014 (UTC)