User talk:Young Naturopath 01

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I am a new user around here.

Welcome![edit]

Hello, Young Naturopath 01, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:

You may also want to take the Wikipedia Adventure, an interactive tour that will help you learn the basics of editing Wikipedia.

Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or click here to ask for help on your talk page, and a volunteer should respond shortly. Again, welcome! Everymorning talk 23:05, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of discretionary sactions[edit]

Please carefully read this information:

The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding Complementary and Alternative Medicine, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.

Discretionary sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimize disruption to controversial topics. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, our standards of behavior, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. This message is to notify you sanctions are authorised for the topic you are editing. Before continuing to edit this topic, please familiarise yourself with the discretionary sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.

This message is informational only and does not imply misconduct regarding your contributions to date. If you have questions, please contact me.

Jytdog (talk) 01:26, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Quick note[edit]

Hi, you and your prior 2 IP addresses have been active on Naturopathy and its Talk page. We have been trying nicely to explain to you how this place works. You will find that same information in the Welcome message above.

Please know that if you really want to get involved, it turns out that Wikipedia is a pretty complex place. Being an "encyclopedia that anyone can edit" means that over the years, Wikipedia has developed lots of policies and guidelines (PAG) to help provide a "body of law" as it were, that form a foundation for rational discussion. Without that foundation, this place would be both a garbage dump of random content and a wild west - a truly ugly place. But with the foundation, there is guidance for generating excellent content and there are ways to rationally work things out - if, and only if, all the parties involved accept that foundation and work within it. One of the hardest things for new people, is to understand not only that this foundation exists, but what its letter and spirit is.

Editors who come here and don't understand that, get frustrated and angry, and either leave, or get thrown out of here. Both are entirely avoidable, and I am writing to you to try to help you avoid that.

PAG are described and discussed in a whole forest of documents within Wikipedia that are "behind the scenes" in a different "namespace", in which the documents start with "Wikipedia:" or in shorthand, "WP:" (for example, our policy on edit warring is here: WP:EDITWAR not here EDITWAR) - you received an edit war warning notice at User_talk:67.80.218.118.)

You won't find these documents by using the simple search box above, which searches only in "main space" where the actual articles are. However if you search with the prefix, (for example if you search for "WP:EDITWAR") you will find policies and guidelines. Likewise if you do an advanced search with "wikipedia" or "help" selected you can also find things in "Wikipedia space". The link in the welcome message above the "Five Pillars" points you to our most important policies and I recommend that you read them all, if you have not already and if you intend to stick around! They guide everything that happens here.

With all that in mind, here are some things that I suggest you read (I know, I know, things to read... but like I said, Wikipedia can be complicated!)

  • WP:OR - no original research is allowed here. instead...
  • WP:VERIFY everything must be based on what reliable sources says
  • WP:MEDRS - this is our guideline for sourcing health-relating content in Wikipedia.
  • WP:CONSENSUS - Wikipedia has plenty of policies and guidelines, as I mentioned, but really at the end of the day this place is ... a democracy? an anarchy? something hard to define. But we figure things out by talking to one another. CONSENSUS is the bedrock on which everything else rests. So please talk - please never edit war (see warning above). If you make a change to an article and someone else reverts it, the right thing to do is to follow WP:BRD (please do read that) - but briefly, when you are reverted, open a discussion on the article's Talk page. Ask the reason under policy and guidelines why your change was reverted -- and really ask, and really listen to the answer, and go read whatever links you are pointed to. Think about it, and if there is something you don't understand, ask more questions. Please only start to actually argue once you understand the basis for the objection. If you and the other party or parties still disagree, there are many ways to resolve disputes (see WP:DR) - it never needs to become emotional - because we do have this whole "body of law" and procedures to resolve disputes.

And finally, there WP:ARBCOM which is kind of like the Supreme Court here. Some kinds of articles have ended up there a lot - articles where there are lots of arguments, and Arbcom has had to issue rulings to settle things back down. Once they "rule", there is a speedy path directly up to them. Articles about alternative medicine, are in that class. So you really have to edit carefully, in full compliance with policies and guidelines on alt med articles.

Anyway, good luck! Jytdog (talk) 01:34, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We see that you're new to Wikipedia, Young Naturopath 01. You are invited to the Co-op![edit]

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Hi there! Young Naturopath 01, you are invited to The Co-op, a gathering place for editors where you can find mentors to help you build and improve Wikipedia. If you're looking for an editor who can help you out, please join us! I JethroBT (I'm a Co-op mentor)

This message was delivered automatically by your robot friend, HostBot (talk) 18:07, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Some useful links to get you started:[edit]

Some useful links to get you started:

Again, welcome aboard! Quinto_Simmaco(talk) Ping when replying 00:39, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure![edit]

Hello, Young Naturopath 01 I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.

Quinto Simmaco (talk) 00:39, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Naturopathy#NPOV problem fixed[edit]

Hi Young Naturopath 01,
Please be advised that when I commented at Talk:Naturopathy#NPOV problem fixed, I have also added 2 indents to your username comment to maintain the 'flow' of the discussion after Dbrodbeck, to who you appeared to be replying. (Diff here). See WP:Indentation for more information and also the section WP:Outdent. I have also noted on the page where added. Regards, 220 of Borg 04:47, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure![edit]

Hi Young Naturopath 01! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission. I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.

-- 18:19, Saturday, March 21, 2015 (UTC)

Not here Argument from BullRangifer[edit]

You are obviously not here to build an encyclopedia. (Redacted) seems to make it hard for you to contribute constructively. We have policies and guidelines. This is not a free webhosting service where you can voice your uninformed opinions in ways which are not constructive. Please find something else to do, or get serious and learn how to contribute without offending people and violating the proper use of talk pages. -- BullRangifer (talk) 21:45, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You are OBVIOUSLY assuming bad faith. I suspected you were an MD or a member of a drug company because of your behavior. I also conisdered that you could be making personal attacks. Also, I am here to build an encyclopedia. --Young Naturopath 01 (talk) 12:55, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

March 2015[edit]

Hello, Young Naturopath 01. All your edits today have been inappropriate and disruptive. You have been warned enough previously, both under this account and as an IP. Since you don't seem able to refrain from personal attacks and assuming bad faith, no matter how many times you're told about Wikipedia's policies against those things, I have blocked you indefinitely. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Bishonen | talk 18:19, 22 March 2015 (UTC).[reply]

I was trying to show what I have figured out was that the drug companies were attempting to take over the medical articles on Wikipedia. --Young Naturopath 01 (talk) 22:16, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you want to request unblock, I advise you (again) to first read the guide to appealing blocks and then put your unblock request into the template (the curly-bracket expression) as described above. Using the template isn't bureaucracy, it's a technical way of calling an uninvolved admin here to review the block. However, note that no admin is likely to be impressed by conspiracy theories and assumptions of bad faith directed at editors, any more than I am. You really would do yourself a favor if you read my policy links above. Here they are again: No personal attacks and Assume good faith. Bishonen | talk 00:15, 23 March 2015 (UTC).[reply]