User talk:Yunshui

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Let's optimize this! - UBC BIOL 345[edit]

Hello yunshui,

I'm user optimize this, and it's exciting to have an ambassador and be a part of Wikipedia, which I use frequently. I'm thinking of working on a page for estuary restoration, so let's optimize this!

Cheers!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Optimize this (talkcontribs) 12:15 pm, 17 February 2014

BIOL 345[edit]

Hi Yunshui

I am new to Wikipedia and I am in BIOL 345 at UBC! I look forward for your guidance and help for our upcoming project!

Talk to you soon Fcheng62 (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fcheng62 (talkcontribs) 12:15 pm, 17 February 2014

Talk back bio 345[edit]

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Couple articles about member of Da Closers[edit]

My page Da Closers was deleted.. When all the info was relevant and true .. Here is a link to one of the members page on the Official UMPG site .. Copy & paste or simply google UMPG and after your at Universal Music publishing group site search under artist & songwriters for Vi .. Also here is a google link to one of the members Bradd Young proof of some of the things that has been worked on. .. Hope this is enough to suffice there is a ton more info & legitimacy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theclosers (talkcontribs) 13:36, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

I see another admin has already blocked your account for repeatedly recreating the page. I recommend reading the notability requirements for musicians before filing an unblock request. Yunshui  06:45, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Cat Creek, Montana[edit]

One user, Return of the Creek, did make a few edits about lions being present in Montana, but then instead placed lion related stuff on Lion Air, Gulf of Lions and what not. He has been subsequently been blocked bu Bongwarrior. Is there something that would ping similar usernames, say 'creek', 'cat', et al? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 06:28, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

I changed the protection on that article to 6 months full protection. The previous 6 months of full protection just expired. I'm guessing most people don't know the history of that article, which started before I got the admin bit, but there seems to be a school project of vandalizing it with the "lion" entries, and full seems the only way to protect it. It is already fairly complete for a town of its size and several people watch it for edit requests, myself included. Dennis Brown |  | WER 12:29, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Dennis, good call. Yunshui  06:48, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Your perspective is requested for a sandbox draft[edit]

Hi, Yunshui. I contacted you at the end of May to ask for help regarding how to present a potentially controversial but well-sourced issue for the article Rolfing. Our earlier thread is here: I took your advice and put the information into my sandbox: Please note, this sandbox item is basically what would be posted on the talk page (not a suggested revision to the article itself). Actually, I could use your help on what specific revision to suggest. It's tricky because the sources are split; the sources that offer their own strong sourcing and include more detail lean toward "not massage" yet there are still enough sources that say "massage" that I think it's best to somehow acknowledge the split in the article without dwelling on it too much. (And otherwise removing references to massage in favor of neutral language.) This article seems to have a rather diverse group of editors involved; I expect this proposal to be controversial so I'm seeking some WP-experienced opinions before posting. Thanks in advance!--Karinpower (talk) 18:11, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

You may well end up having to file a WP:RFC for this one... Your arguments seems pretty sound in a general way, but I'd recommend that you make mention of specific Wikipedia policies/guidelines in support of your position. Ultimately, you can make the soundest argument possible for wording an article in a particular way, but if Wikipedia policy says otherwise, you're on a hiding to nothing. Relevant pages that you may want to review and mention in details include MOS:MED, WP:FRINGE and WP:MEDRS.
Speaking of WP:MEDRS, several of the sources that you're using could be easily challenged under that guideline. Specifically, I'd say the following would struggle to be retained under a strict interpretation of MEDRS:
  • Carroll
  • Singh
  • Considine
  • Levine
  • Knaster
  • Claire
and possibly:
  • Schultz
  • Myers
I know some of these are used in the article already, but it will make your case stronger if you restrict yourself to sources which are uncontestably suitable for the subject matter.
Hoping that's helpful. Yunshui  07:26, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, very helpful! Regarding Singh, I have already petitioned for that source to be removed, and am negotiating with another editor on that. Singh and Carroll are favorites of the Skeptic-minded editors that patrol many of the altmed articles, so they would not want Carroll removed (despite the fact that he doesn't really cite sources that discuss the topic). I would not mind having Considine removed from the Rolfing article; I'm not a fan of magazine articles as sources when books are available. What issue do you see with Levine, Knaster, and Claire, in contrast to the other sources I've cited? Thanks.
Regarding WP policies, I am familiar with WP:FRINGE and WP:MEDRS. Fringe applies mostly because the studies that have been published are not adequate for WP, however this isn't a subject that's considered particularly "out there." For neutral POV, this is always a tricky one with the Rolfing article - the Skeptic editors often want wording that seems way too negative for an encyclopedic tone, though there is agreement that it shouldn't read like a salespitch or a testimonial either. Regarding "no original research" and source-based verifiability, that's definitely governed my approach. I supposed I could cite WP:FRINGE and specifically mention those 3 principles, to dispel potential criticism. For MEDRS, since there aren't studies that demonstrate health benefits, the strategy has been to find mainstream-published books that review multiple modalities (and hopefully cite printed sources for their information).
Thanks for linking to MOS:MED - I had been looking for such a page. Interesting read. Though, I'm not sure what impact it would have on this topic. With all three of those pages, if you can be any more specific about how to make use of them, that would be great! Also I have looked high and low for recommendations on how to insert into an article the existence of a small controversy such as this.... it definitely doesn't deserve it's own controversy section. Can you make any suggestions on how to word it, and what section it should go in? Thanks again!!!--Karinpower (talk) 19:41, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello Yunshui, sorry to bug you again! If you have time to comment on the MEDRS quality of those sources (regarding why those 3 books are less strong than others), that would be awesome. Thank you! Again, I appreciate your help. --Karinpower (talk) 05:33, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


Thanks for pointing out that page on Wikinews. I deleted the page, though I imagine we would have eventually deleted it anyway, though perhaps not speedily, and likely it would never have been published, that is have been listed on the main page since it had a plethora of issues to bar its publication, none of which resolved after several failed reviews. —Mikemoral♪♫ 08:53, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Mike. I figured it wasn't going to get anywhere, but just wanted to tidy things up in the wake of this user's activity. Cheers, Yunshui  09:02, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

User talk:[edit]

This one doesn't seem to need their talk page access anymore. Would you mind helping them? Widr (talk) 10:34, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Always glad to assist... Yunshui  10:36, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Deleted redirect[edit]

Last November, you deleted Ilham Udin Armaiyn as a redirect to a non-existant page. Could you tell me where it redirected to before you deleted it? Thanks. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:10, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

@Sir Sputnik: The redirect target was Ilham Udin Armayn, which was deleted as part of the close of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evan Dimas Darmono. The new article should probably be G4'd as well, IMHO. Cheers, Yunshui  06:53, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Simple Enterprise Agile[edit]

Hello, Yunshui, thank you for your offer on emailing the information over. Could you please tell me how we do this? Thank you.Betchplus (talk) 18:15, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Betchplus - I've responded to you at the Teahouse. Yunshui  06:54, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback Yunshi. Please do not hold Ron responsible, he has been extremely understanding and considerate to me through out the process, much like yourself. I appreciate your courtesy and helpfulness. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Betchplus (talkcontribs) 12:07, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Tea for two with Agility[edit]

Thanks for backing me up there. I have a distinct feeling that that chap isn't listening - I told him what was wrong and what to do, and you told him how to get email working, but still he asks.... Peridon (talk) 19:38, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Well, we have a steep learning curve here, and there's a lot of information to take in when people start chucking blue links in your direction... It can take a while for users to realise that we don't always operate the way common sense might expect, so I reckon we can cut the guy some slack. Yunshui  06:56, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Hmm, I see Ronhjones disagrees with us both...

Not sure what to do.[edit]

I'm not entirely sure what to do with this. I'm going to assume good faith and not CSD G3 nom it, but clearly this isn't in line with RFA standards. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 11:50, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Meh, as long as it stays in his userspace it's not doing any harm. If he ever transcludes it, it'll get snowballed in minutes, so there's nothing to be concerned about. Yunshui  11:52, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Why I asked is because it Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Victor Mochere isn't in the userspace :-P ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 11:55, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Whoops; I'd forgotten RFA noms are held in project space... silly me. Well, the same reasoning holds, I suppose - no-one's going to find it if they aren't looking, and whilst it's an incompetent nomination, we don't have any rules against that. I'd say let it slide; the encyclopedia isn't suffering because of it. Yunshui  11:59, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Alright :-) Some clerk will find it eventually and snowball close it eventually. あなたが云ありがとうございます。 (Thanks Yunshui) <3 ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 12:02, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

This is interesting[edit]

I came across this and was wondering how I can help :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 23:01, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

First thing to do is to ambassadorise yourself - complete an application and the WEP guys will take a look (I'd expect them to approve you without any qualms). You'll then need to do the training; sort of like Navy Seals Boot Camp only less muddy and with hardly any shouting... Then just add your name to the list of volunteers and to the course page, and pitch in! Yunshui  07:32, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 09 July 2014[edit]

Citation assistance[edit]

Thank you. A million times thank you. Your simplified guide to referencing is very helpful. I have taken onboard your comments about the website I referenced and will seek out a more reliable source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HJBoydell (talkcontribs) 15:11, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

You're more than welcome; I'm glad I was able to help. Yunshui  07:25, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

"Hi Yunshui"[edit]

Hi Yunshui,

Hopefully you got my email earlier. I was hoping you could reverse the deletion of my page that I have spent days working on. You mentioned that this link had similar text that is because I wrote these words...

for the Cheffins Auction House catalogue - they were my words.

How do I go about retrieving my page please? Please can you email me on

Thank you so much Philip Jones 1933-2008 (talk) 11:09, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Please see my previous response from a few weeks ago. Yunshui  07:14, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Page restoration[edit]

Hi, thanks for getting back to me. Your comment in regard to a presence within independent is understandable. Though yes, if you could restore it for me to work on ten that would be great and, I shall get it reviewed prior to posting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robynj92 (talkcontribs) 12:59, July 11, 2014

Replied on your talkpage. Yunshui  07:26, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 16 July 2014[edit]


Hi Yunshui, just wanted to leave a note regarding the above user, since you unblocked him. The user is back to personally attacking other editors (calling them gyros, losers etc) and leaving controversial edit summaries etc on the Christina Aguilera article again. He/she is probably associating with an off-wiki campaign for enlisting Aguilera fans for editing the article in a positive light. The attacks etc are not that level that it would draw a report at WP:ANI, but just thought to let an uninvolved admin know of the situation. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 05:46, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Looks like Kww has already handled the necessary blockhammer manipulation. Yunshui  08:17, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Copyright Violation[edit]

On the log of edit history of the article Monarch buttrfly the following edit was posted: 07:49, July 15, 2014‎ Mdann52 (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (68,291 bytes) (-635)‎ . . (→‎top: rv link to copyvio material (Ticket:2014071510000218))

I would like to maintain that no copyright infringement was done. I referenced a url to a website, a normal and typical practice. No copyrighted material (the raw data itself) was/is used in this section of the article. No word-for-word text was copied from the reference and then pasted to the article.

There seems to be some confusion of what constitues a copyright violation. I can only say that this/these users are well-intentioned and are responding in good faith, wishing to enhance and improve the article. I have been privately contacted by a representive of Southwest Monarch Study via email. I would rather resolve this issue with the assistance other editors who have the expertise of determining copyright violations here on wikipedia rather than thru private corespondance.

bpage (talk) 02:27, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
See Talk:Monarch butterfly. Yunshui  08:15, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

You deleted my page title Suraj Giri[edit]

Hey, I am from Nepal I would like to add verified content or Nepali popular celebrity from Nepal. You must inform me before delete my content I will send you prove for my content because what I posted is verified information.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ojhaplus (talkcontribs) 08:15, July 20, 2014‎

I've userfied the page for you; you can continue to work on it at User:Ojhaplus/Suraj Giri. Have a read of this page first. Yunshui  08:21, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Vandal solution[edit]

Instead of blocking someone like that, make it appear that their edit was successful. IP would be fed a special version of the article showing their vandalism. Other users would see the normal page. Within seconds, the article would be 'reverted' by a fictitious editor which would show up on the page history with the accompanying orange bar and possible vandalism warnings on their talk page. Let 'em thrash to their heart's content... Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 10:54, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Interesting idea... I'm not sure how easy (or indeed, possible) that would be to implement from a technical perspective, but you might want to suggest it at the Pump. Yunshui  10:57, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Back again! That was quick. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 10:57, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

More Fans[edit]

Looks like JA is joining the fanclub with Evlekis. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 08:03, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

You really do attract the most delightful people... Yunshui  08:04, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Can you SALT this please :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 08:17, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Already made savoury with liberal application of the bluelock. Yunshui  08:19, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
More JA Nonsense ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 09:44, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


I noticed you deleted a few edits at WP:ANI - you might want to revdel the summary on this one too: [1]. G S Palmer (talkcontribs) 09:56, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Meh, I've had worse insults from my five-year old daughter. Looks like Agathoclea got there first anyway. Yunshui  10:30, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, I thought you were the one who scratched those two. My only point was that if they found the username offensive enough to require deleting, then they missed something. I wasn't commenting on the offensiveness of lack thereof of the summary. G S Palmer (talkcontribs) 11:45, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Ah right, I see what you mean now - I thought you were referring to the subsequent diff (the one aimed at me). I've dealt with the edit summary now as well, thanks for spotting it. Yunshui  12:20, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

CVUA adoption[edit]

Hi Yunshui! It's been about a month since I asked you this, but can you adopt me for the CVUA? I now have 200 edits in the mainspace, which you can see here and here.— Preceding unsigned comment added by MrWooHoo (talkcontribs) 14:19, July 22, 2014

Sure, why not? I've created a CVUA page for you at User:Yunshui/CVUA/MrWooHoo; it's pretty self-explanatory. Yunshui  14:01, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Student Project Proposals[edit]

@Yunshui: Hi Yunshu, I'm having students post project proposals (a brief outline of what article they're planning on developing and some preliminary research) this Friday the 25th. I'll split up the students into three groups for each ambassador. You'll each have around 6 proposals to review by the 30th. My plan was to have them post to your talk page, unless you want to create a separate talk page? Let me know and thanks again for all your help.Matthewvetter (talk) 03:17, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

I'd rather have them on a subpage, to be honest - I've created User:Yunshui/Student proposals for the purpose. Look forward to seeing what they come up with. Yunshui  09:50, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

"Talkback". Pdfpdf (talk) 12:59, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Help with article/diplomacy?[edit]

I've tagged you on NinjaRobotPirate's page, but I'm posting here and I'll send you an email about the whole situation because it'll take a longer explanation and I don't want to TL;DNR your userpage. Long story short, on the Chris Alexander (editor) page we have some argument about content in the article. Originally there was a controversy section about a piece Alexander wrote for Fangoria under a pen name. There's been contention over whether it was a review or a general article, and whether or not the usage of a pen name is deceptive due to Alexander not outright stating in the article that it was him. We have some fairly heated comments between Alexander and David Pace, who used to write for Fangoria and currently writes for his own website. For the controversy we only have one source, Bloody Disgusting. Alexander argues that the source incorrectly states things and shouldn't be used, whereas Pace says it should be included. It's not a huge mess at this point, but it could get worse and we need a good diplomat to help keep it from getting bad. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 23:40, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

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Replied by email. Yunshui  08:30, 24 July 2014 (UTC)