User talk:Zanhe

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Chinese characters and pinyin[edit]

Hello, good to see you continue the article creation drive! I think we should talk about how to unify the formatting of pinyin and Chinese characters at the beginning of articles, namely, would you prefer that they appear in the opening line using template {{zh|c=}}... or would you prefer relegating everything to the infobox {{Chinese}}? Personally, I like having at least the original Chinese name in the opening line, but we can exclude the pinyin and other romanizations (exceptions can be made). The reason I don't like having everything in an infobox (such as what user Huangdan has been doing) is because the subjects of some of these articles is only really known within the Chinese-speaking community, or in some cases, almost everything that has been written about them is in the Chinese language. As such it should be immediately apparent to the reader what the subject's Chinese name is. For example in the article on Zhao Hongzhu, I would be in favour of keeping the infobox, but retaining at least a Simplified Chinese name in parentheses in the opening line; the traditional Chinese and pinyin can go in the infobox. Colipon+(Talk) 15:51, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

I don't have a strong opinion on this, except that the lead should not be cluttered with more than two permutations of foreign language terms. Keeping one instance of the most widely used Chinese representation in the lead, while moving to rest to the infobox, is probably the best approach. So your proposal wrt Zhao Hongzhu sounds good to me. -Zanhe (talk) 19:40, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Hundred family surnames[edit]

Ji was the ancestral name of the kings of Zhou and Wu. This book was written during the song dynasty. The descendants of Zhou changed their surname from Ji to Zhou during the Qin dynasty. Same with the descendants of Fuchai of Wu, so what I put there is not "nonsense". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.172.46.132 (talk) 05:43, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

The descendants can change their surnames to whatever they want, but that does not retrospectively change the surnames of their ancestors. -Zanhe (talk) 05:52, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

They changed their surnames to honor their respective states/country. Tell me, since Gugong Danfu's (pre dynastic Zhou's leader) oldest son, TAIBO is the starter of WU, and JILI(Danfu's youngest son)was the heir and his grandson started the Zhou dynasty...you really can't see the significance of the surnames "Zhou" and "Wu" being one of the first names of the poem? If it is so unimportant and insignificant as you claim, then please explain why it is up there with the other "elite" surnames. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.172.46.132 (talk) 06:12, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

According to Song dynasty scholar Wang Mingqing, Zhou, Wu, Zheng, Wang were the surnames of the wives of Qian Chu, the last emperor of Wuyue. They have nothing to do with the Zhou dynasty or the Wu kingdom. If they ancient kings were so important, then Ji and Liu would be ranked much higher. -Zanhe (talk) 06:40, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Zai Yu[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ran Qiu[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Zhong You[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:57, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

China barnstar.png The China Barnstar
A well-deserved star for your hard work on China-related articles, particularly on the disciples of Confucius. Yunshui  09:09, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Yunshui, thank you very much for your encouragement, and for the hard work you've done yourself! -Zanhe (talk) 00:53, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Zhuansun Shi[edit]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:01, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

TOTW Zhangye Danxia National Geological Park[edit]

Hello, just to inform you that the article Zhangye Danxia National Geological Park is actually candidated for Translation of the week. --Holapaco77 (talk) 22:47, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

That's great. Thanks for letting me know. I see that it's already been translated into Portuguese. -Zanhe (talk) 20:00, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Leishu[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:04, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Li Lianyu[edit]

Hello, Zanhe! You inspired me to attempt some more DYK's. I thought I would ask you the favour of reviewing this article for me for DYK... there is virtually no mention of this person in the English-speaking world, but he has been a favourite topic for Chinese-language media outlets. Regards, Colipon+(Talk) 05:41, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Great to see your increased contributions, they are badly needed! I'll be glad to review the DYK, hopefully in a day or two. And no need to apologize for not having English sources. There are several DYK contributors who can read Chinese. And other reviewers will generally AGF on sources they cannot read. -Zanhe (talk) 06:57, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Qu Qinyue[edit]

I have placed a new hook there. Many thanks for your review!--Huang (talk) 07:49, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Yan Yan (disciple of Confucius)[edit]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:53, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Nangong Kuo (disciple of Confucius)[edit]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:22, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Fu Buqi[edit]

Hi, I just approved your DYK nomination of this article. I think you do a very good job avoiding close paraphrasing. There was just one complete phrase that I put in quotes; you may wish to rewrite it in your own words. I'd also like to note that the Slingerland source doesn't use the word junzi, just "gentleman". You may wish to add another cite to that sentence, perhaps the Wu Xiaoyun one? Best, Yoninah (talk) 23:17, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your review and improvement to the article, Yoninah. I rephrased the sentence, and added a Chinese language source for the "junzi" cite. Cheers! -Zanhe (talk) 04:22, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Kong Youde[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:23, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Yuan Xian[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Yuan Xian at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 22:29, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Tantai Mieming[edit]

Thanks from the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:03, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Yuan Xian[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:27, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Fu Buqi[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:03, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Pan Fusheng[edit]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 18:28, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

ITN credit[edit]

ThaddeusB (talk) 21:44, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Shanghai Jewish Refugees Museum[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Shanghai Jewish Refugees Museum at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Philafrenzy (talk) 00:53, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Kongzi Jiayu[edit]

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:36, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Invitation to create another list[edit]

Hello Zanhe, I understand that you have written the list of provincial leaders of China. I have created the "list of current Chinese provincial governors" in the Chinese Wikipedia, so I would like to ask if you wish to create another similar list in English. Thank you! HYH.124 (talk) 06:02, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

HYH.124, thanks for your continued contributions (and glad that you came out of your retirement). The List of provincial leaders of China actually was created by User:ASDFGH, and I only updated it. It seems that all essential info (except the refs) in your list on the zh-wiki is already included in the existing list of provincial leaders, and I don't really see the need to create a separate one. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 06:20, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Shanghai Jewish Refugees Museum[edit]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:21, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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I really like your articles! Thank you very much for being a such active editor to share your knowledge with all of the world!---Yuan.

Icely88 (talk) 14:28, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Glad you enjoyed reading them, Icely88, and thanks for your encouragement! I don't really have that much knowledge; I only know where to find reliable sources of it :-) -Zanhe (talk) 19:50, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Discard of Good Will[edit]

Your discard of good will(good faith) that you will no longer engage in constructive editing on Korean topics and and to go further in threatening me with disruptive ANI attempts to ban me from Korea-related article is very troublesome. I've made an appropriate response at ANI, where I shall see to it that your dishonest attempt of intimidation will not go unanswered. And once again, I have not made any racist remarks on that convenient website of yours, and your accusation on such grounds pretty much threw away good faith and deeply offended me. Cydevil38 (talk) 08:20, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

See my reply at the ANI case. By the way, the "convenient website" is not mine. I was citing Benlisquare's old ANI complaint against you. -Zanhe (talk) 20:57, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Zeng Dian[edit]

Mike VTalk 06:44, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Review please[edit]

Dear DYK expert, Zanhe. How are you? I hope all is well with you. I have recently expanded an article ~7 folds. It is nominated for DYK so I was wondering if you can review the DYK nomination. Thank you very much. Have a nice day! :) Jim Carter (from public cyber) 18:38, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jim Cartar, sorry I was busy yesterday and only had a few minutes for Wikipedia. Looks like someone beat me to it and already started the review. I'll try to act faster next time. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 20:26, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
Zanhe, the nomination needs another review. You can review it now. Thank you. Jim Carter (from public cyber) 06:26, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much, Zanhe. DYK is not broken like RfA only because of kind editors like you. Thank you again. Have a nice day! Jim Carter 13:44, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Gao Chai[edit]

Mike VTalk 07:45, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive865#Long-term_disruptive_user_Cydevil38[edit]

Do you think this should be placed back from being automatic archived? Because I think it will once again go like last time with no decision, which is very detrimental. It needs a decision. And frankly, the user has once again propped-up his/her centric views while not giving due weight to all information as cited in sources at Gojoseon, removing them even. Too bad it's a busy time at the moment for me. And even though the RFC is against the user, I think that the little input of other users will just leave the article with one thing: the user pushing his/her views once again against sources and consensus. --Cold Season (talk) 21:53, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, Cold Season. Unfortunately, the nature of Wikipedia makes it difficult to deal with determined POV pushers who are not excessively uncivil, especially in topics that most admins are not familiar with. See WP:Civil POV pushing. As the holidays are approaching, I'll have little time for Wikipedia in the next few weeks, so I guess we'll just let it slide this time. If he persists in pushing his POV too far in the future, then we'll try 3RR and/or ANI again with the new evidence. My hope is that he'll read some of the scholarly sources provided and get to understand the whole background of the issue, not just from the narrow nationalistic point of view. -Zanhe (talk) 09:04, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Focus on progress in improving articles or stopping the actions that are detrimental to articles... choices, I guess. Inaction is a rather despicable situation. But you're right, we've wasted too much time on the user's actions. Cheers, Cold Season (talk) 18:18, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Shang Qu[edit]

Harrias talk 12:02, 21 December 2014 (UTC)