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Random thought: Good thing about wikipedia is that vandals may buzz around like flies, but the admins can easily take care of them with a simple page protect, especially if they hide behind anonymous IPs;D


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Hello, Zhanzhao. You have new messages at WP:ANI.
Message added 01:48, 6 August 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

The IP editor who has filed this ANI report has requested I ask you for your input, as you were involved in the last ANI against Lgdp. Strange Passerby (talkcont) 01:48, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Weird revert

Hi on Tony Tan Keng Yam I didn't get your reason for the removal of the cited remarks from the Library of Congress Country Studies; I believe that it's good to clarify for readers (who would not know) the background behind labor relations in Singapore. Did you mean to take away something else? elle vécut heureuse à jamais (be free) 01:48, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I have copied your question to the article page and answered it there. Zhanzhao (talk) 16:04, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


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Hello, Zhanzhao. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/La goutte de pluie.
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OpenInfoForAll (talk) 05:27, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Request for arbitration

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Posted on behalf of filing party User:La goutte de pluie by Arbitration Committee clerk Alexandr Dmitri (talk) 13:38, 24 August 2011 (UTC)


Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. ~~Ebe123~~ (+) talk
21:18, 6 September 2011 (UTC)


You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#User:La goutte de pluie and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

Thanks,OpenInfoForAll (talk) 22:47, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


i am autistic woman with grammer problmes by --Sunuraju (talk) 12:16, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

I am sorry to hear that. No offense, but your previous edit was really not making sense, and for the benefit of Wikipedia users, I had to revert to the last known edit that made more sense. Zhanzhao (talk) 15:59, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Vivian Balakrishnan

Hi Zhanzhao, I have recently rewritten parts of the article mentioned above. I see that you were involved in discussions about the article earlier. I would like to understand the context of the dispute in the section listed under:

I would appreciate your help with expanding the articles on Vivian Balakrishnan and Grace Fu. Thanks. — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 11:44, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Nick, I am not as active as I used to be but I'll see what I can do. Cheers Zhanzhao (talk) 01:37, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

deletion of Belinda Ang


I am rather surprised by the proposal for deletion. A High Court judge (which is what she is), under the constitution, and basically under any conception of separation of powers, is to the judiciary what a minister is to the executive/legislature. One could say the article is stubby, to denounce notability is absurd. Moreover, the notability guideline is rather clear on this. Chensiyuan (talk) 10:09, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

The way see it is that although the post is important, the subject is not, nor notable. Based on the content of the article, there is barely any writeup on the subject in in respect to her post. I hope you see where I am coming from. Zhanzhao (talk) 10:19, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Sure, I'll beef it up. Chensiyuan (talk) 10:23, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Wee Shu Min elitism controversy for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Wee Shu Min elitism controversy is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wee Shu Min elitism controversy until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

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Quick question

You can see it from the Page analysis function, a user called La goutte de pluie. As identified by DanS76 in the CHC talk page. In fact her last act, the one that got her banned, was to stalk another editor that got into an arguement with her and twist that guy's edit. Even more glaring when you realize LGDP only edits Singapore or science articles, and the CHC article was the only exception during that time frame. Basically the CHC article became collatoral damage for her disagreements with me. Zhanzhao (talk) 14:54, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
The study was added and pushed by her around Aug 27, 2011. Around that time, she was involved in this [[1]]. And to give more context, she used to be an admin with questionable COI issues and I was the first to raise it in ANI[[2]] so I can understand why she was stalking me. i was not the first one she "stalked", nor was this the 1st article she tried to "punish" whitewashing i.e. see the Vivan Balakrishnan article and talk page. Zhanzhao (talk) 15:09, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Zhanzhao, I'm just curious. Why didn't you warn the vandal who vandalised Singapore national football team? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arctic Kangaroo (talkcontribs) 04:49, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

It was an IP editor, based on past experience most of the time it does not work. Zhanzhao (talk) 05:40, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Well...I see. New thing that I learned from you today. :) Arctic Kangaroo (talk) 06:37, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


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Message added 04:58, 5 December 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Sorry, I completely missed your reply at the AfC help desk. The short of it: I expect the draft will pass the next review, but I'd try and find a substitute for the press release. Good work! Huon (talk) 04:58, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestions and assist! Zhanzhao (talk) 05:39, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

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DanS76 (talk) 06:28, 9 December 2012 (UTC)


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Hello, Zhanzhao. You have new messages at Darkness Shines's talk page.
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Darkness Shines (talk) 13:00, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

(Reply) Lawrence Khong's Polo Medal & Article

Hello, yes I'm afraid my research was highly insufficient in this case. [[3]] The above link shows clearly his involvement in the SEA Games 2007. As for the rest of his page, it was been littered with countless of, shall we call them, snarky comments that were not meant to libel. However, certain pieces of information there do not have any relevant links, most return a 404, hence I feel should be deleted, as well as certain sections that seem more opinionated than factual, which should be the point of an article. I do hope you will be able to help me in looking through his article and cross referencing information that can be seen as relevant and opinion based, as well as removing those without any factual backings or evidence, as any further edits by me will be seen as vandalism, as well they should be, and I'll probably started commenting on his hair more than anything else. Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sam93man (talkcontribs) 07:19, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Film is based of case

2013 film Norigae is based of Jang Ja-yeon case here by --Sunuraju (talk) 13:55, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Najib Razak

Zhanzhao, I have left you a message on the discussion page of Najib Razak. I noticed that you reverted me again without waiting or attempting to discuss the issue on the talk page even after I clearly pointed out that there are severe and glaring BLP issues with the assertions that you have included in the article. Please stop immediately with the edit-warring and start discussing the points raised on the talk page. On Wikipedia, we have to be particularly sensitive about biographies of living persons as a matter of rule, so please assume good faith when an established editor and administrator reverts you citing BLP. Reporting by Reuters or any other reliable source does not preclude an assertion or theory from being fringe, I would ask you to please review Wikipedia's content guideline on fringe theories. — Nearly Headless Nick {c} 06:40, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

I did reply you on your page that my input was not to include the content as a fact/statement, but to include it as how the allegations were causing a controversy and how the subject and the government is reacting to the allegations. I have a more detailed reply in the talk page. Zhanzhao (talk) 06:51, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
I have responded to your comments on the talk page. Please separate your comments from mine as they render them confusing and unusable for other interested users. I note that you have added a similar paragraph on Abdul Razak Baginda with matters of opinion masquerading as facts. You are advised to remove the section pending the resolution of the discussion on Talk:Najib Razak. Also it is poor form to include capitalized text such as "Bribery and Murder Allegations" in addition to misrepresenting sources after the individual has been acquitted. Please remember that BLP is a policy that is strictly enforced on Wikipedia. — Nearly Headless Nick {c} 07:57, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Sorry about the title on the Abdul Razak Baginda page, I just cut and pasted it, will tweak it accordingly. As for removing the section about the murder wholesale, the whole murder accusation/acquital and submarine acquisition irregularity is what makes the subject notable in the first place.... (google "Razak Baginda") and just scroll through the hits. That's as good/bad as excluding the content about Meredith Kercher from the Amanda Knox article even though she was acquitted. Zhanzhao (talk) 08:05, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

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WP edits

Recently, you undo my changes regarding the WP page. In your theory, I'm should be allowed to add the AIM issue, Palmer's reasons for resignation into PAP's page? For some reason, it's stated in WP's page but not in PAP's.

I stand by it that they should be a distinction between the party itself and town council matters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lee480 (talkcontribs) 12:05, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

with regards to there being a separation of WP and TC, the quoted source itself makes a point of pointing out WP's importance in the story. With regards to the other points you raised, there should be no reason those are not included on wikipedia as well, so long as the edits follow wikipedia's policies. My suggestion would be in fact to have a detailed writeup at the TC pagea, then wikilink it in the WP article. In fact, I am surprised there isn't much more written AIM and the other big news of note, the hawker center cleaning muck-up (pun intended) hasn't been mentioned anywhere here, though I suspect that its quite hard to tackle it neutrally makes it difficult to approach. Zhanzhao (talk) 13:10, 6 November 2013 (UTC)


Thanks for keeping watch on my talk page. If you're interested, I listed the article itself up for discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kleargear (2nd nomination). -- Ricky81682 (talk) 19:06, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

No probs. Been there, which is why my page has semi-protected status, so I literally understand how annoying this gets. Zhanzhao (talk) 22:50, 3 July 2014 (UTC)