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2012[edit]

Citation Standards[edit]

Hi! Thank you for adding a citation to List_of_The_X_Factor_finalists_(UK_series_8). If you could go back and edit the citation to have it comply to Wikipedia standards with no bare URL that would be great. Here are some guidelines: Wikipedia:Citation_templates. -- NewzealanderA (talk) 14:35, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Once you are finished updating the citations to Wikipedia standards, remove the "cleanup-link rot" cleanup template from the top of the article page. Thanks!-- NewzealanderA (talk) 17:11, 6 July 2012 (UTC)


Trying to use the toolserver, but my internet is too slow atm [1] Zoeblackmore (talk) 18.40, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Good job. -- NewzealanderA (talk) 15:23, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Your recent edits[edit]

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Misha B - SBTV[edit]

SBTV videos aren't music videos because they are unprofessional footage and 'street-shot' freestyle raps. That performance of Misha's is not a music video at all, it's a freestyle rap. Not a music video. For example, Bow Wow performed a freestyle wrap on SBTV in early 2011 and it does not appear in his Music Video discography because the freestyle raps Misha and him did aren't music they are releasing. Just a freestyle rap, not a musical release of their own. Rui78901 09:14, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks :) for info :)...Zoebuggie☺whispers 11:16, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you![edit]

P.S. I've no idea how the WP:TEA page works. If I were you I'd just enjoy the cuppa :) Sionk (talk) 00:24, 29 July 2012 (UTC)


cool :), shall i pass you the biscuits...Zoebuggie☺whispers 09:04, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Misha Images[edit]

Current ones look like they are suspect flickerwashing and are likely to be deleted. I have written to the flickr account holder asking him for verification that they are his and published correctly under a creative commons licence....Zoebuggie☺whispers 21:29, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Hey, just wanted to let you know that I've asked a couple of users on Flickr if they mind changing the licenses on their images of Misha for you. - JuneGloom Talk 00:12, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Much appreciated :)...Zoebuggie☺whispers 06:52, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
A lovely Flickr has kindly changed the licence of their image of Misha. I've uploaded it to Commons and added it to the article. I think a closer crop could be made, so I'll go to the graphics lab now and put in a request. - JuneGloom Talk 18:40, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Yaye :)) much appreciation for your help...Zoebuggie☺whispers 19:17, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

August 2012[edit]

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your edits to Misha B, it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, reduces edit conflicts, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thank you.  -- WikHead (talk) 00:39, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

A very good suggestion, I always think I am going to be quick, but when I save I see I need to improve. ...um what do you call someone who keeps making the same mistake :) ...I will endeavor to use preview in future.
Urban contemporary? yes it is a radio format and my error, is the a music genre close to it, Misha B is an 'urban' artist who mixes/combines/experiments so many genres in her music...Zoebuggie☺whispers 01:07, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Hmmm, I not really sure I can answer that genre question. I would suggest however, if you are displeased with the genres listed, it might be a good idea to start a new thread on the article's talk page to poll others who regularly edit there. As a group, you can all work together to form a genre consensus. Finding good reliable sources for music genres can be really helpful to the discussion and greatly improve the article as well. As a rule however, genres really shouldn't be changed without prior discussion or providing sources. Best of luck with all your future edits. Stay well Face-smile.svg!  -- WikHead (talk) 02:00, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Excellent! You've certainly done your homework, and I'm hoping it pays off with lots of user feedback from those who regularly watch and edit that article. With all those references, I would assume that someone could greatly expand the "Musical style and influences" section. I noticed that you've added "Grime" to the genres, which should be changed to "grime" (lower-case G) per Template:Infobox musical artist#genre... small matter. I also noticed that your list on the talk page includes the word "indie", which can often be a very difficult term to work with. It could mean indie rock, indie pop, indie punk, indie folk, etc... it could also refer to independently published music or in some cases "music of India". Be sure to specify your flavour. Good luck, and happy editing! Face-smile.svg!  -- WikHead (talk) 22:15, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello again Puffypeacock ;) ...it really would be useful if you followed Wikhead's excellent advice about 'clogging up' the edit history of Misha B. It will also be of great help to leave a brief edit summary, or mark your changes as 'minor' where appropriate. Keep up the good work! Sionk (talk) 23:05, 9 August 2012 (UTC)


❀◕‿◕❀ しⓄし ;) I am trying to use preview as a rule, set my prefs up so it naturally defaults to preview, but sometimes i dont spot my silly errors. Also I appreciate and know you are right about edit summaries, i got lazy...Zoebuggie☺whispers 23:16, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Re: Misha B[edit]

Yikes, dispute resolution is not really my area of expertise... and this particular case appears to have a rather long, complicated history. I think the smartest advice I could give you, is to continue seeking help in the venues and from users who specialise in these types of cases. However, if you do decide to take your concerns to formal mediation, it's very important to carefully read all the documentation before you proceed, and make certain that you have completed all the steps, suggestions, and recommendations beforehand. Formal mediation is a very serious place to be, and cases should only be brought there when all else has failed. I'm sorry if my reply seems unhelpful, but I'd rather steer you in safe direction than accidentally misinform. I wish you the best of luck with getting your matters resolved. Have yourself a great day, and happy editing. Face-smile.svg  -- WikHead (talk) 02:03, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

As above, I'm afraid this is not my forte as medical articles don't tend to have too much dispute, and if one does I tend to stay away from it! If you are acting respectfully and following all guidelines and policies regarding neutrality, POV and referencing then I think you have little to fear. Per the dispute resolution you posted, revert wars must not happen and all parties must agree to this. If people don't agree to this, try and get an administrator or an official mediator to step in and help enforce the no-revert policy. Whilst you're all going to have bias and hour own POV, try and remain respectful and open-minded to your opposition's views. All the best, I'm sorry I can't help you more. Regards, --—Cyclonenim | Chat  13:16, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


Thank you :) for getting back to me on my talk page, I really do understand and appreciate your comments...Zoebuggie☺whispers 13:35, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

I have experience of dispute resolution, but I don't have much time at the moment, so another person would be better at the moment. Besides, I'm puzzled by why you've chosen me and how many other editors you've spammed with this request, and who is helping already. --Dweller (talk) 20:57, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

I am grateful for your response. One of the editors above had helped me on the dispute resolution earlier, the other had given some very good advice. But I admit that on the page I found yourself, I was not sure how to proceed and thus I choose a few editors with experience in dispute resolution, hoping to get one bite. It was very late and
I was mentally exhausted....Zoebuggie☺whispers 21:49, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
OK. Good luck with it. --Dweller (talk) 22:01, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


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See No Evil (artwork)[edit]

Hi. I saw your note at Talk:See No Evil (artwork). I've replied there and also started a new section about copy/pasting. I hope this is helpful. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 09:43, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Wow, impressive work expanding the See No Evil article! Looks very useful and comprehensive! One of the advantages is that we now have a list of redlinks and maybe there will be enough information to create articles about some of the more notable participants... Sionk (talk) 23:05, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, I really appreciate your clean ups, de-fluffing and improvements too, I will fix those citations later today or tomorrow. --...Zoebuggie☺whispers 03:15, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Misha B[edit]

Hello,

At the moment, the Misha B article isn't complying with the guidelines of manual of style or summary style. A whole section is not required for one single as there is a whole other page dedicated to this and old and future projects don't need separation. Thanks. Jennie | 21:14, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

I was just going to contact you :) Firstly I wanted say I really like most of your improvements. I do think its a good thing to seperate past and present from the future. Part of the problem with Home Run is that you deleted the lot, without even a link. Home Run page went through AfD process/survived so that was why it survived on this page last month. I can not see a breach of the manual of style. Summary style is more debateable...as the is a sub article. Most establish artists have sections on their page about their music even when its discussed elsewhere....Zoebuggie☺whispers 21:30, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
whooops I now see the is a paragraph on Home Run. I still like a separation between past and future....Zoebuggie☺whispers 21:39, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
trying out a compromise.. but will wait till you finish contributing.Zoebuggie☺whispers 21:41, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Is it easier if I reply here? :) Sorry! I didn't even intend to delete any of your edits initially, I made a minor edit and saved an earlier revision of the page and didn't mean to delete any of the stuff about Home Run. However, a whole section on a single isn't required. And breaking down a year into two sections (of which, not a lot has gone on) isn't really needed either. Summary style needs to be practiced here; it is understandable how whole sections have formed this way as the artist's career is new, but things like Home Run need to be talked about in much less detail. Jennie | 21:51, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Yes...my brain is trying to grasp talkback. Again more great additions. I should have said accident rather than mention vandalism. I still think the year ought to be split atm between 2012: Why Hello World and Home Run'Homerun is more notable than the mix tape and 2012:Future projects but I have been battling against another editor who supports your layout....Zoebuggie☺whispers 22:00, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
It's fine! It's quite confusing :) I understand you point but Home Run being more notable (and it is), but as the Mixtape and debut album are larger (in terms of content), they form the article sub-heading. Her upcoming projects definitely deserve their own paragraph, but a whole sub-heading is probably unnecessary.
I changed the heading to Home Run...maybe less content but still more notable. I got another change ...church in the wild was maybe not best one to keep to illustrate point ...Zoebuggie☺whispers 22:25, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Hmm...I'm still not sure, but you are definitely right about it being more notable. I suppose it will be eventually changed to her debut album title whenever that is released. Jennie | 22:39, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Yes thats been my main arguement about the layout with Rui.... the page is live and will evolve. Great contributions Jennie ... now maybe someone will assess it...Zoebuggie☺whispers 22:47, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Actually, if she is releasing a new single from the debut album, the title "Home Run" wouldn't encompass this. Someone else has changed it to "Debut album" which I think is more suiting, what do you think? Jennie | 22:49, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Home Run is a single from the same albumn...regards Lizzy's change ...no like it...Home Run I think is better...Zoebuggie☺whispers 23:05, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Reread your last comment and now better understand your point, the is 5 weeks before Do You think of Me is released....then the heading will have to change you are right...would naming both singles be to wordy? I better end my reverts today at least...Zoebuggie☺whispers 23:12, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Zoebuggie in letting go mood, the article has been much improved which is the main thing...Zoebuggie☺whispers 23:19, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Question though why is Why Hello World more deserving of the heading than Home Run...as it does not encompass any more than Home Run does? :)...Zoebuggie☺whispers 23:33, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Both the release of the mixtape and studio debut album are sourced independently and encompass the whole content of that section. I don't understand your persistence on changing it, just because "Home Run" entered the UK Charts doesn't mean it needs a subheading devoted to it. Jennie | 14:27, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Only Bryan's words...me I dont understand how future WP:ToSoon events can take priority over known facts in a wikipedia article....Zoebuggie☺whispers 14:43, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Misha B[edit]

Thank you for the gesture, it's appreciated :) thatgrapejuice certainly isn't a reliable source, although, luckily, each statement that had a reference from thatgrapejuice usually had another one that was reliable and supported it. Jennie | 15:51, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

 ;)Yup, safety in numbers is my policy just in case a site I thought was ok turns out bad. Sometimes hard to spot a genuine magazine/music news blog-style website from an individuals :) (mind you, some individual enthusiast's blogs in context might have a better idea than some supposed reliable source, with a paid hack :) but rules is rules)46.208.73.74 (talk) 18:14, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

October 2012[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia. However, please know that editors do not own articles and should respect the work of their fellow contributors on Misha B. If you create or edit an article, know that others are free to change its content. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. —Jennie | 21:05, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I never claimed to own it ...just eding like you ...Zoebuggie☺whispers 21:08, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Please do not assume ownership of articles such as Misha B. If you aren't willing to allow your contributions to be edited extensively or be redistributed by others, please do not submit them. Thank you. —Jennie | 21:27, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

That goes for you too...Zoebuggie☺whispers 21:28, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello, As I've explained in the edit summary, claims about somebody's appearance or personality don't form part of a "Musical style or influence" section. As explained by the title, musical style refers to the person as a musician, their vocal range, genre, abilities (like Misha's to rap). Thanks. —Jennie | 21:34, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
must admit the two impersonal and unnecessary comments above wound me up... i believe that this section is best place for recording that she has been described as a diva, the petite and down to earth puts it into context....Zoebuggie☺whispers 21:43, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
I've opened a discussion on the article talkpage, here. Thanks. —Jennie | 22:11, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Misha B Talk[edit]

You seem to have deleted the upper Misha B talk page. Was this an accident? Thanks. —Jennie | 19:38, 22 October 2012 (UTC)


ohh pooo sorry def a mistake sorry...Zoebuggie☺whispers 19:39, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

It's fine :) —Jennie | 19:41, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

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Misha B (Subsequent use)[edit]

Hello, if you've got any time could you offer some input over here, I've started a discussion on which subsequent use of Misha Bryan's name we should use in the article. —Jennie | 17:32, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

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Misha B[edit]

Please refrain from changing genres, as you did to Misha B, without providing a source and without establishing a consensus on the article's talk page first. Genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive. Thank you. —Jennie | 18:42, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to change genres without discussion or sources, you may be blocked from editing. —Jennie | 18:51, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

I bat that one back to you, what gives you higher authority to place an artist in a music genre or not, what sourcessource do you have for R &B and Hip Hop over Soul. Genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive. Where does your Consensus spring from Thank you....Zoebuggie☺whispers 18:52, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello. I was not the user who changed the article to include "R&B" and "Hip-hop", so I, naturally, was not involved in "genre changes", I think they have stood for months (a year?) before I began editing on this article and I have nothing to do with their inclusion. You are very welcome to challenge the consensus of these genres on the article talk page, although several professional reviews from journalists refer to these genres in relation to the release of her two singles. What I am doing is challenging your inclusion of soul - where are the reliable sources? —Jennie | 19:19, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

This is the final warning that you will receive regarding continued genre changing without discussion or sources. If you choose to continue, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. —Jennie | 19:24, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion[edit]

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Request reason:

Help please, I do not understand why I have been blocked, I have done nothing intentionally to break any rule?

Accept reason:

Procedural close; no block in place. Yunshui  11:56, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

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As far as I can tell, you aren't blocked. What message do you see when you try to edit an article? Yunshui  11:52, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I think I understand now. You can't edit the page Misha B because it has been protected to prevent you edit warring any further. You can still edit the article's talkpage and any other unprotected article on Wikipedia. I'm closing your unblock request as there is nothing to action. Yunshui  11:56, 7 December 2012 (UTC)


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Help please Iam still blocked. Block covers the whole of Wikipedia with an end date 10:34, 13 April 2015. I do not understand why I have been blocked, I have done nothing intentionally to break any rule? ...Zoebuggie☺whispers 12:32, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

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Sorry Block now removed. Thank You :))

Accidental revert[edit]

Sorry, I have reverted your edit accidentally and unknowingly! Must have pressed a wrong button. —Jennie | 17:49, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Lolol...easy done, also easy for me to take it wrongly...thank you for putting me at my ease. i reverted your photographer edit, because she used the attribution licence, please correct if this done another way...Zoebuggie☺whispers 17:55, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
You have included her name on the photograph page itself, is that not enough? She isn't relevant in the caption as she isn't notable (e.g. Lady Gaga photographed by Steve Klein would perhaps be). I'm not sure either way. —Jennie | 18:08, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Your question[edit]

At Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests#Working with fellow editors.2C you asked, "Is it normal for fellow editors to be so ruthless." (I'm answering here, rather than there, because I'm afraid you may no longer be watching that discussion.) You may be aware that the most basic principles of Wikipedia are set out in the Five Pillars. Ruthless editing is so common here that the third pillar concludes with, "all of your contributions can and will be mercilessly edited and redistributed." (Emphasis added.) Yes, it can be pretty rough here and it's sometimes hard to assume good faith, but it's worth it, in my opinion. Hang in there, Zoe. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 16:41, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you :)...Zoebuggie☺whispers 21:21, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

A cookie for you![edit]

Choco chip cookie.png Just because you're struggling. Hang in there and you'll be fine. TransporterMan (TALK) 16:43, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

yum yum...Zoebuggie☺whispers 21:21, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Your edit comments[edit]

Please don't accuse me of acting out of "personal venom" in the Misha B article (or anywhere else for that matter). Why on earth would I be doing that?! Sionk (talk) 11:14, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

I wish I had used X rather than S where I asked my question, to have made it more anonymous. I honestly did have the feeling of being personally got at, and it was causing me stress. However at least 2 editors have reassured me that 'ruthless' re-editing was very normal and I feel better now....Zoebuggie☺whispers 13:45, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Believe me, as I've said before on the article's Talk page, I want to make the Misha B article better. I bear no malice to you or Misha B. But sometimes 'less is more' and a succinct, balanced article does more credit to Misha B and to the reputation of Wikipedia. You're always welcome to leave a message on my Talk page if you think I'm being to harsh or blunt to you. You've made many well-intentioned, positive contributions over the last few months and I wouldn't want to discourage that aspect of your work. However, if you add poorly sourced pronouncements from Twitter, Facebook, fansites etc. you'll undoubtably face some disagreement from me or others. Bye for now! Sionk (talk) 19:56, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you :)...Zoebuggie☺whispers 23:19, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

AWAY[edit]

Since xmas I have been seriously ill...hospital stay with dodgy Heart etc...so currently I am away concentrating on my health....Zoebuggie☺whispers 11:19, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, Wikipedia can be stressful at times. Hope you recover fully!! Sionk (talk) 12:17, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2014[edit]

Hi Zoe. In case you are not aware, there is an upcoming campaign to improve coverage of LGBT-related topics on Wikipedia, culminating with an international edit-a-thon on June 21. See Wiki Loves Pride 2014 for more information. If you are interested, you might consider creating a page for a major city (or cities!) near you, with a list of LGBT-related articles that need to be created or improved. This would be a tremendous help to Wikipedia and coverage of LGBT culture and history. Thanks for your consideration, and please let me know if you have any questions! --Another Believer (Talk) 18:23, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

  1. ^ http://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/webreflinks.py?page=List_of_The_X_Factor_finalists_%28UK_series_8%29&citeweb=checked