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Notice: The Graphics Lab is always in need of a helping hand; All are welcome to try their hand at the requests!

The Graphics Lab helps improve all graphical content stored on Wikimedia Commons and the English Wikipedia.

Wikigraphists work to improve the quality of images that are proposed to them by the community. This involves work such as extracting key elements from photos, improving the color of images or emphasizing the main subject, 'stitching' multiple images together and often vectorizing images (converting to SVG). We also create new drawings, diagrams and maps when requests are made to do so.

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[edit] See also



[edit] JFK motorcade

Stale. DyceBot (talk) 07:03, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


Only free photo of JFK's motorcade on the day of his assassination
original archival scan from the library of congress (will not render thumb as image is over 12.5 mp)

Article(s): John F. Kennedy, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, John F. Kennedy assassination, several others

Request: Upon finding this historic gem of a photo I uploaded a crop of the high-rez LoC scan and nominated it for featured picture status. This was premature, as the image could use significant restoration and cleaning up. I've suspended the nomination for now, in the hope that a graphist would take a crack at it. ˉˉanetode╦╩ 08:55, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: I'll have a go at it. However, it would seem counter-intuitive to work on the low res crop of the original. Rather I restore the original, then have you crop it how you please. Or you could tell me, I'd crop it for you too. These should be put in jpg format; png is definitely not the right format. XcepticZP (talk) 17:52, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I've downloaded the original LoC file and am working on it. Would love it if a collaborator shared the work, because I really hadn't been planning on this job. It's heavily artifacted for an image that's only 45 years old and not in great focus, but considering the underlying importance it's worth a restore. I'm thinking we can each take turns at zapping artifacts until the obvious part is done. The work is simple but tedious, and not a bad way to relax while listening to music. Editors who'd like to help are welcome to contact me by e-mail. DurovaCharge! 19:02, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
I would prefer to work alone, as I use non-destructive editing methods. And these methods need to stay in .psd files. Those files are too big to email back and forth. But if you want, I'd be glad to collaborate. Post me a message on my talk page when you've uploaded your newest copy and want me to do some work on it. XcepticZP (talk) 15:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
How goes it? You still intend on fixing this image up or what? XcepticZP (talk) 17:53, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Image:Kennedyb.jpg - certainly not all the way but some progress. DurovaCharge! 14:14, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


[edit] guardian building

Original image

Edit 1?

Article(s): Corrado Parducci ; Guardian Building; Architecture of metropolitan Detroit

Request: Any improvements to the image - maybe better crop, rotate/straighten, maybe something can be done with the sharpness? on right side, etc.

Please give us a bit more information. Are the doors and plaques at the bottom important or can we take them off? what about the crest at the top? Dhatfield (talk) 21:25, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
I did some work on Edit 1  iDosh!  talk? 23:08, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
I ran the edit 1 through a warming filter and adjusted the contrast and sharpness, see if you like that. L'Aquatique[review] 01:55, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Question: Who requested this in the first place? I'd've thought that SinBot would've autosigned them if they didn't... 68.39.174.238 (talk) 22:25, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion::

[edit] Daimler

Resolved. --Hektor (talk) 07:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Image:Daimler logo.jpg
jpg Logo of Daimler

Image:Daimler logo.gif
Added transparency

Image:Daimler logo.svg
SVG version

Article(s): Daimler Motor Company

Request: Continuing with car companies, I'd like a ask for a .svg logo of Daimler. From the web site, the colour should be inverted I think and it should be black letters against transparent background.

Please in the future sign your name when you post requests here, Hektor. Thank you. XcepticZP (talk) 09:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
I apologize. Hektor (talk) 09:36, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Graphist Opinion: I'll try  iDosh!  talk? 21:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

  • Nice. Is it possible to have it vectorial ? Hektor (talk) 19:14, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] SVG please

1

SVG of image 1
Jonathan Lambert Flag ZP 1.svg

transparency

Article(s):Multiple micronation related articles.

Request: SVG please

Graphist opinion: I did one image. Doing the second one now. XcepticZP (talk) 19:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

  • For the SVG1, the center white square is white, while the four white lateral triangles are transparent and NOT white, is this ok ? Hektor (talk) 20:33, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Nope, its got to be all white, or it would not function properly as a flag.--SelfQ (talk) 20:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Now three out of the four triangles have been corrected, but the top one is still transparent. Hektor (talk) 07:35, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Please note that image 2 is Fair Use so any derivative will be similarly copyrighted. /Lokal_Profil 11:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
In all fairness, an interpretation on a blazoning isn't going to be too different to that image as its pretty plain and simple. Not like a COA with intricate detials... Mangwanani (talk) 15:29, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
True, but this can only be done if the flag (and the Coat of arms) is in fact based on a blason rather then just being a logos in the shapes of Flags and CoAs. Considering the nation in question it would surprise me if they were based on blasons. /Lokal_Profil 16:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Could someone remove the clear edge around the SVG flag, it makes boxing the flag look strange. --SelfQ (talk) 13:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I think i did it. (my first SVG edit) O_o. how is it? — Navy  Blue  formerly iDosh 23:54, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh never mind you want no transparency at all right? — Navy  Blue  formerly iDosh 23:58, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Laura Bush signature

Resolved. --pbroks13talk? 22:02, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Laura Bush's signature

Edit 1

Traced

Article(s): Laura Bush

Request: I am requesting that the background of this image be whitened. Thanks! -- Happyme22 (talk) 02:15, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion:

Would it not simply be better to start off with a better one ? Jackaranga (talk) 12:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
I uploaded a better one. Jackaranga (talk) 13:07, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Vectorisation? Like Mugabe's? Mangwanani (talk) 15:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Hey, that looks great. Thank you! Happyme22 (talk) 17:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Umm, anyone wanting to take over? My traces look poor... Mangwanani (talk) 15:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Well I added transparency (edit 1)  iDosh!  talk? 23:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I traced it by hand, please see whether it looks OK. --Slashme (talk) 16:26, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes, the images look great! What are the main differences in appearance between the second and third images? It doesn't matter to me either way, because all look good and we now have an image to use. Happyme22 (talk) 19:25, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
The difference is that the third image is a vector image, as opposed to the second being a raster image. It looks like you're happy, so I am going to set this as resolved. --pbroks13talk? 22:02, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Congestion charge

Stale. DyceBot (talk) 07:03, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

graph

Edit 1

Article(s):London congestion charge, Urban density

Request: Vectorise graph. Thanks-- Mangwanani (talk) 08:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: I've been trying to learn how to do this. I left a request for help at Wikipedia_talk:Collaboration_to_convert_graphs_to_SVG and on User_talk:El_T five days ago and I haven't heard anything yet, so I don't know of anyone active who can do this. If somebody who can help reads this, please do. Dhatfield (talk) 15:26, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

I redrew it using Inkscape using the original picture as a layer to draw on top of. Hohum (talk) 22:26, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
This is one way to vectorise, but it is not really accurate. That line is no doubt created by a mathematical equation, and the dots have true values. Unfortunately, it takes a pro in SVG text editing to make that into a graph. Still no response from the pros. Dhatfield (talk) 12:26, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
As a copy of the original graphic, surely it is perfectly acceptable. It isn't intended to be a graphic that you measure accurate or exact results from, it's a visual aid. Hohum (talk) 12:03, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes, it is perfectly acceptable for this application. Mangwanani, you ready to mark as resolved? Dhatfield (talk) 07:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Silent movie icon

Edit 1

Edit 2

Alternative #1

Article(s): every silent movie article using sv:Mall:Filmfakta (the film infobox on sv.wiki)

Request: I would like some help with designing an icon which can represent silent movies. Initially I'm thinking a crossed out mouth or something but any ideas are welcome. The only requirement is that the symbol is simple and that it's clear what it depicts even at small resolutions (think stub-image size). /Lokal_Profil 13:08, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion:

Speaker with an overlayed prohibitory sign infront of a film reel or strip? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 22:09, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
We thought about using a speaker (or a volume icon) but figured that it will draw the link to film without sound rather then film without synchronised voices. /Lokal_Profil 14:18, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Isn't that the definition? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 21:44, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
A movie screen with an upright piano superimposed in lower left ? Hektor (talk) 21:48, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Definition from Silent film: A silent film is a film with no synchronized recorded sound, especially spoken dialogue.. Same thing for the piano, for me it links the thoughts to no-sound movies where the sound is genereated by a live pianoplayer on the stage. For me silent film is primarily linked to intertitles but they would make lousy icons. /Lokal_Profil 22:26, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Although it might work if it's done in the right way. I.e. something like [1] with decorations top and bottom and "silent film" in the middle. A completely different idea would be something similar to [2], but at first glance people might just think smiley. /Lokal_Profil 22:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

How about Edit 1? It's pretty small, it can be visible up to 25-30 px. I can be improved by SVGing. Check this out - User:IDosh/To Do/3  iDosh!  talk? 17:49, 21 June 2008 (UTC) Any comments about Edit 2?  iDosh!  talk? 17:57, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Although it's a good icon for silent films in general I don't think the movie reel is needed for an icon in the film infobox. But the lip part might work. Anyhow I'll be busy with IRL stuff this week so if I'm absent from the discussion it doesn't mean that I've forgotten or that I'm ungratefull for all the help I'm getting. /Lokal_Profil 07:57, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Dropped a note on the Swedish template talk page asking for input from the other contributors. /Lokal_Profil 11:45, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

It was suggested that something like this be used, so I made Image:Silent film.svg. Any good? Or are you looking for something esle? --pbroks13talk? 03:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I like it a lot. Checking with the people on sv.wiki. /Lokal_Profil 19:33, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
It's definitely a better (IMAO) representation because it's what most people associate with such a film: The text written in. The only problem might be translation. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 22:24, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
It shouldn't be too hard. Couldn't we just replace "Silent film" with the Swedish translation? --pbroks13talk? 04:47, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Or, maybe it`s better to write it in Esperanto.For multilingual purposes of course!N.samimi island (talk) 13:08, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Problem is, no one would be able to read it, so in the sense that it would be equally unintelligible to all, yes. Probably the idea of a version for each language would work best (EG> silentfilm-sv, -en, etc.). 68.39.174.238 (talk) 20:50, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Ok ,then I make the Persian Language version of it and I`ll give the link of it here. N.samimi island (talk) 14:37, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
The link of the persian language version of it on wikipedia commons is this N.samimi island (talk) 10:18, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Teapot render

Resolved. Dhatfield (talk) 08:01, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

That's not a nice shade of green

Here's one without the green color balance

Utah teapot or Aladdin's lamp? A teapot with fractal pigment (the Julia set) in front of a warped mirror - the appearance of the 'lamp' in the reflection was pure coincidence.

A simpler one, now a featured picture candidate.

Article(s): Computer_graphics, utah teapot

Request: Please render this iconic model with a better surface texture, bump map and shade of lighting. I'd love to see someone turn on all of the bells and whistles on this one. Procedural? Fractal? Dhatfield (talk) 02:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: I think the texture is fine. I only reduced the green shades. --ZooFari (talk) 16:26, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Not quite what I was thinking of - this should be FP quality. This is one of only a handful of 3D models that have historical significance and instant recognition among 3D modelers / renderers. Dhatfield (talk) 21:37, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I've asked User:IG-64 to take a look at this. Dhatfield (talk) 23:26, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
No response from IG-64, so I took a hack at it. I think I'll do a couple non-photorealistic and photorealistic ones for the article and associated 3D articles. Dhatfield (talk) 12:01, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Map of New England showing Claude La Badarian's travels

Basic map

A pretty bad start.

Article(s): Dining Late with Claude La Badarian (13 short stories)

Request: Hi: I would like to know if someone would mind populating a map of New England with the travels and locations (both mentioned and visited) of one fictional character named Claude La Badarian as he lives through 13 short stories written by American writer William Monahan. This would be for the Dining Late with Claude La Badarian article, which is about a serial narrative comprising 13 short stories, really adventures, of Claude La Badarian. La Badarian travels across the states of New York, Connecticut, and Massachusetts (all three adjacent). So this would require a blank map of New England to work with, which I think might be available free use somewhere at Wikimedia Commons hopefully? I broke down the drawing of the map into two stages:-- Manhattan Samurai (talk) 09:04, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Stage One: The Routes: A circle with a number will be used to show which short story takes place in which cities. So Circle 1 is for the 1st short story, and Circle 4 is for the 4th short story, and so on.

Stage Two: Other cities merely mentioned

And that would be it. It's not easy to do, but I would appreciate it a lot! It would be a great help for anyone who would read the Dining Late with Claude La Badarian stories because they would be able to follow exactly where these places are. If you have any questions, please ask. Thanks for even considering to do this work.-Manhattan Samurai (talk) 09:04, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: The original map in the New England article was terrible, so I made a new one that should be much easier to work with. MissMJ (talk) 00:49, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Started it, but the placement of the cities is really approximate... And the map probably should be bigger (maybe even a more detailed starting map?) because there's some fit issues. I don't know how lines would fit into the current map. MissMJ (talk) 01:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Not a bad start at all. I actually checked to see if the cities were correct, because I thought Easthampton was east of Northampton, and Kingston was north of Saugerties. But your pinpoints were exact. The only thing I can see is that Medford could maybe be closer to Boston. But that's no big deal. I think I went overboard with the numerated circles and the methods of travel idea. Would it be possible to simply trace the route with an unbroken but dashed line showing the direction (such as: - - - - - > - - - - ), or something similar, all the way from Saugerties to Northampton to NYC back to Northampton and then right over to Easthampton? I was also thinking to remove 'Grand Central Terminal' from New York City; it was a silly addition and maybe just 'Greenwich' is better than Old Greenwich station. I was also wondering if it is possible to put in the name of the three states: Connecticut, New York, and Massachusetts, somehow? And even the islands: Long Island and Martha's Vineyard. But thanks so far! I don't know too much about SVG but it has a nice clear effect to it. This is exactly the kind of map I was hoping someone would be able to create for the article.-Manhattan Samurai (talk) 09:02, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Quick note: When Claude La Badarian travels from Saugerties to Northampton, he makes a pit stop in Connecticut. The best way I can see to catch a little Connecticut with a traced route would be to drop down just above Kingston leaving Saugerties, and then stay in Connecticut just before Agawam and then go north to Northampton.-Manhattan Samurai (talk) 09:11, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Additionally, if you would like to see how I plan to position the image within the article you can check out this draft: User:Manhattan Samurai/Luther. It appears that the TOC will dictate the max height of the map and that the width is not that important, because I think the height of the TOC is fixed no matter what size browser window you are using to look at the article.-Manhattan Samurai (talk) 11:00, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

(outdent)If you want to hear my opinion about how you could trace the route, then here you have it:Go from Saugerties, and go near but always above Kingston to follow through Connecticut and then ride up on the eastside of Easthampton before arriving at Northampton, then a rather direct route straight to New York City, and afterward back to Northampton on a route drawn to the right of the route taken to NYC, so now back at Northampton and simply draw at the top a little final route to Easthampton. This should avoid any kind of crossings of paths and look rather fluid. It is also accurately the route that Claude took. This is just for anyone who wants to continue to work on this. Sincerely, Manhattan Samurai (talk) 04:27, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] String theory

Existing raster of the String Theory request. Many requested images have no copyright free equivalent

How's this?

Standard Model of Elementary Particles

Articles: String Theory, Quark, Fermion*, Elementary particle*, Fundamental interaction*, Unified field theory*, Vacuum energy*, Quantum foam* (would be a very nice 3D project), Grand Unified Theory

* These articles currently have no image at all.

Request: This topic provides scope for significantly improved images in particle physics and quantum theory. For the most basic implementation, the existing raster image should be converted to a labeled vector diagram similar to this or this. For those looking for challenging projects, practically every image on this page would be a fantastic addition to a particle physics article - see links above.

This area also provides scope for more artistic interpretation of the appearance of strings, see here and here for examples. Dhatfield (talk) 11:40, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: I can try the String Theory one (although, a torii is not the most optimal original object to draw... any other preferences/suggestions?). For the others... Um, I don't really have much understanding of the subject so I wouldn't know the first place to begin. MissMJ (talk) 21:52, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Here you go. I thought vertical format would be better to fit in the article margins. MissMJ (talk) 02:55, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Excellent diagram, definitely better layout! I'll ask for comments. Do you feel up to tackling all of the ones on
...There's a lot of diagrams there. Is there any specific ones you think will be most useful in those articles? Some of them I could probably do without needing to understand what it is they're talking about. xD The fermion table shouldn't be too difficult... MissMJ (talk) 16:49, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
That's a gorgeous diagram! Much nicer than the original. Should the quarks, electrons and Carbon atoms be labeled with their symbols (u, d, e- and C), or would that just be distracting? Emok (talk) 14:01, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. =) I think labeling the Carbon wouldn't be a good idea just because the point of the diagram is to illustrate the magnification stages; Carbon is just an example element, you know? It could be anything in reality. I don't know about the others though. I tried making it language neutral? MissMJ (talk) 16:49, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Really nice. Would it be possible to move the "4" and "6" sligthly to the left in theire circles? /Lokal_Profil 19:45, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
They are centered, but I guess another font is being used when Wiki renders the SVG (I used Microsoft Sans Serif, I don't know what that renders as...) making them off center. Firefox displays it fine. I could just turn the numbers to outlines anyway, since there's not many of them. MissMJ (talk) 20:46, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

How's this for the Elementary particles article? (I hope I don't get pelted by tomatoes from some physicists. >_>) MissMJ (talk) 23:29, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

MissMJ, you're working so fast I can't keep up with posting to the articles :) This looks great, if I can make one suggestion, it's to make the green a little darker, the 'leptons' label gets lost in the background - or darken label text slightly? Dhatfield (talk) 11:43, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Eh, I got nothing better to do. Made the labels darker. I have them bold in the original, but Wikipedia font rendering is driving me insane. I don't seem to have any of the fonts that are supported, at least not under those names. And I can't figure out what font it uses so I'm fixing alignments blind. -_-' MissMJ (talk) 20:58, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Posted the Standard model of elementary particles to Quark (had a lead, added underneath), Fermion (lead), Elementary particle (lead), Fundamental interaction (not lead, but very helpful in explanation). Looks amazing. I've had some success with Verdana, but the renderer sometimes runs on 'strange' quarks ;) Dhatfield (talk) 23:19, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Standard model picture
  • For the standard model picture, a "name" label should be added.
  • Masses listed should be those of the Particle Data Group.

Headbomb {ταλκ – WP Physics: PotW} 11:31, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Browse the PDG listing to find the relevant masses. The PDG recommendation is in bold within each .pdf. Headbomb {ταλκ – WP Physics: PotW} 15:28, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Done. Dhatfield (talk) 15:53, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Leptons: Electron should be 0.511 MeV, tau should be 1776 MeV (or 1.78 GeV). W should be 80.4 GeV, Z should be 90.2 GeV. Electron neutrino should be <2 eV, Muon neutrino <0.19 MeV, tau neutrino <18.2 MeV. Other than that, I think the rest of the image is OK.

Headbomb {ταλκ – WP Physics: PotW} 16:51, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

  • Done. Thanks for your constructive input Headbomb, much appreciated by us non-nuclear physicists. Dhatfield (talk) 20:03, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Could you link whatever source you used for those mass values in the description for the image? (Next to the PBS and Fermilab links) Just so there's no question of their reliability/running around to find numbers later on if something needs to be changed. MissMJ (talk) 20:20, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Excellent. MissMJ, I think the problem was (primarily) a switch between the Tau and Tau neutrino masses. Besides that, there were only small discrepancies between older and newer references - thanks for your work. String theory and elementary particles resolved, are you up for some particle/string interaction?. Dhatfield (talk) 08:50, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
  • You're going to have to be more specific; what do you mean by particle/string interaction? MissMJ (talk) 19:12, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
  • I was thinking of something like this, but it exists, so no need. Dhatfield (talk) 11:14, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Concerning the string theory.svg image, I think it would be best if there was only 1 "string" located at the bottom, and that both quarks and electrons pointed directly at it. Because as of now, it looks like the string of the electron is a bit less fundamental than the string of the quark. Headbomb {ταλκ – WP Physics: PotW} 04:39, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
    • Is there a distinctive diference between the strings that make up quarks and those that make up electrons? The current image (first two) indicate that this is the case. /Lokal_Profil 02:24, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
  • As far as I know strings are strings. Blue and purple are not widely recognised properties of strings :) Dhatfield (talk) 11:14, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Awareness

Resolved.
— Withdrawn by original requester 68.39.174.238 (talk) 14:23, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Currently none, see link to copyrighted image

A child's recognition of their own image in a mirror is a sign of self-awareness

Another person with a mirror

Article: Awareness

Request: Awareness currently has no image and requires an artist's input on a good way to depict this. This may provide inspiration for original artistic input. Dhatfield (talk) 11:40, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion:

I'd prefer something at least tangentially relevant to the subject, rather than just a pretty picture, even if that might be hard to come by for such an abstract topic.
The linked picture is of an eye. We are relating an abstract concept related to sensing. Dhatfield (talk) 13:30, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps something illustrating the mirror test for self-awareness? That article does have a picture, but it shows a species which is not generally considered to pass the test; something with a human child or an animal that does pass the test would seem more appropriate. Maybe this one from mirror stage? I also found this picture in Commons:Category:People with mirrors. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 15:59, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Self-awareness and awareness are completely unrelated. The one does not imply the other at all. Someone can be self-aware (I think, therefore I am) without any senses and almost all living organisms are 'aware' of their environment in some way. Biological psychology may choose to narrow that definition (as they state up front in the intro), but essentially, awareness is about sensing and cognition. I personally find this article to be written with a heavy POV neuroscience slant and do not think that the illustration should limit itself to that interpretation of the definition. Dhatfield (talk) 13:30, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Withdrawn (not sure if there is a template to mark as such). Dhatfield (talk) 08:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
In the past {{Resolved}} has been used with an explanation that it is being withdrawn (EG. An impossible request, or similar). I've done that here so it doesn't go "stale". 68.39.174.238 (talk) 14:23, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Dhatfield (talk) 20:22, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Design

Resolved. Dhatfield (talk) 20:21, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Source raster

Article: Design, Booster engine

Request: Please vectorise this image so that we can showcase what modern design drawings should look like. If anyone has other work to contribute that would be appropriate for design, engineering & architecture articles (3D CAD/CAM, CG plans / design drawings or piping and instrumentation diagrams), please submit them. Thanks. Dhatfield (talk) 12:12, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: As a CAD example Image:CAD Modeling.gif might be useful. Also commons:Category:Technical drawing with subcategories might contain something. /Lokal_Profil 02:20, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm - all cats are light on high resolution images and esp. vector diagrams, but no point in letting this go stale. Maybe the urge to do it will strike. Dhatfield (talk) 20:21, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Mind and Cognitive Science

Resolved. Dhatfield (talk) 20:24, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
None, please see copyrighted link


Articles: Cognitive Science, Mind (has no image), The Magical Number Seven, Plus or Minus Two and numerous articles in this branch

Request: Please help to improve these articles. The image here may may provide inspiration on how to illustrate the concept of numeric processing limits in the brain, but I would like to include the theory that the brain has approximately 7 +- 2 'channels' along which data can travel simultaneously. This could be part of a series illustrating various aspects / theories of cognitive science - this area has very limited access to illustrations and would benefit immensely. Dhatfield (talk) 12:41, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion:

Let's assume this is impossible, and/or outside of the scope of this Lab. Dhatfield (talk) 20:24, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Engineering drawing

Stale. DyceBot (talk) 07:02, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

First Angle Projection in raster

First Angle Projection in vector
Paper size request withdrawn

Example mechanical drawing in raster

Example mechanical drawing in vector

Definition of projection angle in raster

First- and third-angle views in vector (Fvasconcellos)

Isometric view in raster

Isometric view in vector

Isometric view in vector (Fvasconcellos)

Article: Engineering drawing

Request: Vectorise all please - having these in raster is unprofessional. Dhatfield (talk) 14:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: Inkscape recently added support for isometric (actually, axonometric) drawing, so I did that. I probably can't do the first one, and I can't make any promises, but I'll try a few others.--HereToHelp (talk to me) 15:28, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I've done the basic drawing of the isometric workpiece, since they need to stay consistent. I'll wait for feedback.--HereToHelp (talk to me) 16:02, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks HereToHelp, a good start. A couple of comments - Please use the same linestyles and length in the mechanical drawing - they have specific meanings and Section AA should be shaded as per the original. To be accurate the new version really has to be an exact copy of the original. I think the radius of the hole in the isometric view of the same object is a little larger than in the example mech drawing and please use stroke lines, not fill, as per the original. Thanks for your input. Dhatfield (talk) 09:28, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Really good vectors of ISO paper sizes already exist; check out ISO 216. MissMJ (talk) 21:27, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Excellent - withdrawn. Dhatfield (talk) 09:28, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I'll take the projection angle one. We rarely get such easy requests here :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:00, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
OK, done. I've tried to keep it as exact a copy of the original as possible while maintaining accuracy (the original was, well, not so accurate). Fvasconcellos (t·c) 15:47, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I've also tried to make a facsimile of Image:Engineering drawing Isometric.png, for what it's worth. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 16:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
It's worth a lot: improvements like this make our encyclopedia better, promote a consistently high standard of work and impress visitors with the attention to detail - I'll get off the soapbox now. Great contributions, very nearly perfect. Would you please do the other two? Dhatfield (talk) 21:03, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you—I'll try, but that first one is gonna be a doozy :) As HereToHelp said, no promises... Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Go Emok! Nice projection, but can you please take out the eyes - although descriptive they're not a usual part of engineering line drawings and can we have bigger arrows? Thanks. Dhatfield (talk) 18:34, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Posted to article with request for comment. Anybody ready to fix up the mechanical diagram? Colours and linestyles should be preserved because they are referenced in the article. Thanks. Dhatfield (talk) 12:03, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

I just uploaded a new version. It should more closely match the original. Let me know what you think. Emok (talk) 16:32, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Yep, I haven't forgotten—I was just away from my computer for a couple of days. It won't be an exact copy, though, because I'll do something about this. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 00:36, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Portugal & Spain Napoleon

Europe Napoleon 1811

Article: Lourinhã, Peninsular War, and potentially many others

Request: Hello, I ask to you whether it is possible to make a chart of French invasion in Iberian Peninsula from the following chart: Europe Napoleon 1811.

It would be necessary to put the cities of: Lisbon, Lourinhã, Olivenza, Salamanque, Peniche, Barcelona and Madrid.

It would be necessary to make three of them if possible: French, Portuguese and English. Cancelos (talk) 11:44, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

  • Three maps
    • English = Lisbon, Lourinhã, Olivenza, Salamanca, Peniche, Barcelona and Madrid
    • Portuguese = Lisboa, Lourinhã, Olivença, Salamanca, Peniche, Barcelona and Madrid
    • French = Lisbonne, Lourinhã, Olivenza, Salamanque, Peniche, Barcelone and Madrid

Graphist opinion: Let me contact the user who did the original map to see if he still has a vector version of it. I don't feel confident redrawing the 1811 borders on a map of present day Europe, but if I can get this map in SVG, I can put on those cities for you. (Or hey, maybe he'll be willing to do it.) MissMJ (talk) 21:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the original map