Wikipedia:Bot owners' noticeboard

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This is a message board for coordinating and discussing bot-related issues on Wikipedia (also including other programs interacting with the MediaWiki software). Although its target audience is bot owners, any user is welcome to leave a message or join the discussion here. This is not the place for requests for bot approvals or requesting that tasks be done by a bot. It is also not the place for general questions about the MediaWiki software (such as the use of templates, etc.), which have generally a best chance of being answered at WP:VPT.


Cobi (talk · contribs) hasn't edited for three months. Who else operates the ClueBots? Problems are being reported at User talk:ClueBot Commons, which are being ignored - eventually they get archived without resolution. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:42, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Great question, but with suspected malfunction and an unresponsive operator our only remedy will be blocking. Pinging Cobi (also leaving talk message and email to check in.) — xaosflux Talk 23:29, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Sent 1, 2, plus wiki-mail. — xaosflux Talk 23:35, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
I'll get ready to spend my next few days on Huggle, then.. Rcsprinter123 (lecture) @ 23:37, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
I'm NOT proposing all of the ClueBots just because the operator is absent, only specific malfunctioning ones (in this case CBIII, a page archiving bot). — xaosflux Talk 23:43, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
User:Rich Smith and User:DamianZaremba do IIRC. Legoktm (talk) 23:41, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
I keep an eye on things, and so do Rich Smith (talk · contribs) and DamianZaremba (talk · contribs). -- Cobi(t|c|b) 23:52, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for checking in, obviously the edits in question were not severe to the necessity of immediate blocking. The thread on the CB talk should be able to handle the rest of this discussion. — xaosflux Talk 00:36, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Rich Smith is active recently, and DamianZaremba is probably available if you contact him via his talk page. --k6ka (talk | contribs) 21:47, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Cydebot keeps creating duplicated categories[edit]

Cydebot, owned by Cyde, does a great job but it keep creating duplicated categories. This was reported 8 years ago, a year ago, a month ago and today. The owner did not reply to these requests. What should be done? -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:10, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

How often are these errors occurring(both in frequency and as a proportion of edits)? — xaosflux Talk 12:14, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
xaosflux no idea. Yobot and BG19bot clean duplicated categories daily. But it would save us enought energy if Cydebot was checking if the category exists before upmerging. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:25, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Cyde any workaround for this? -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:33, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

OK there was a reply here. Not a biggie but if we can solve it then it's going to be awesome. Less work for my bot. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:34, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

User:HBC AIV helperbot11[edit]

User:HBC AIV helperbot11 is malfunctioning. Kept removing my report about an IP from WP:AIV claiming the IP has been blocked indef when it is not blocked and continues to vandalize. HkCaGu (talk) 08:36, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

IP has been blocked by CambridgeBayWeather and article semi protected. (talk) 08:42, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
  • The bot believed the IP to be blocked because the outdated Perl code does not handle unexpected Unicode in an IP address very well. Specifically, in your report, your {{IPvandal|}} contained a Unicode E2 80 83 character at the end of the IP address before the closing braces. Google says this is apparently an "em space", which is invisible while editing the page, but still present - probably something you copied in from somewhere. The bot rendered it as "â" in the logs, which caused it to erroneously match against other blocks and think the IP was blocked when it hadn't been. In the future, my advice is to re-enter your report by hand (without copy/pasting or reverting) if one of the helperbots repeatedly removes it. —Darkwind (talk) 08:58, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. Perhaps this could also be fixed in the bot. Coincidentally(?) I had the same problem yesterday. Perhaps some part of Wikipedia recently changed to include an extra "em space". —WOFall (talk) 16:30, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
Slight correction for any future reader. It is "E2 80 8E", which is "LEFT-TO-RIGHT MARK" (‎). —WOFall (talk) 15:53, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

IP doing what looks like bot edits[edit]

See (talk · contribs). Is this a logged out bot? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 11:03, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

@Dougweller: yeah, looks like it. Softblocking is probably appropriate. --Mdann52talk to me! 11:06, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
I don't think it's an approved bot logged out: a properly approved bot would be using edit summaries. Could be the IP is used a modified version of AWB. Not sure blocking is appropriate, at least not without warning as the edits appear constructive. –xenotalk 11:08, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
Soft blocked. — xaosflux Talk 11:18, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. And thanks to User:McGeddon who first noticed this. Dougweller (talk) 12:34, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
@Xeno: How could an IP user modify AWB to use on the English Wikipedia without being listed on WP:AWB/Checkpage? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 01:10, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
It's open-source and I don't think it's too hard for a competent coder to strip out the checks. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) –xenotalk 01:14, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
xeno. True. Very true. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:11, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

xeno My experience says that this guys was using python or something but not AWB. But I have seen anonymous IPs using AWB lately. I wonder if we can limit this by adding flood to anonymous IPs that disallows more than x edits per minute. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:14, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Let me think, open source is not a factor. There are few softwares that can decompile codes and can do reverse engineering. Jim Carter (from public cyber) 14:06, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Look into a bot's function[edit]

I was hoping someone with bot knowledge could investigate Theo's Little Bot's Task 22 (to populate data on film articles that utilize {{Rotten Tomatoes score}}). The bot has not made a positive contribution to a template subpage since April 17, 2014, with the few attempts at the end of August/early September 2014 producing the template's error message. I have personally created a template subpage for use on a film page (Guardians of the Galaxy (film)), in hopes of intially "kickstarting" the bot to come by, but soon realized that I would have to manually update it (as seen in the edit history). I have attempted to contact the bot's owner, Theopolisme, as well as Technical 13 as they have previously helped with the template/bot, but did not receive any answer from either. I'm hoping someone here can look into the bot's operation, the code, and how the task is being executed, to find out if the bot is the problem, or possibly Rotten Tomatoes' API has changed, preventing the bot from working as it needs to. This bot was really helpful for updating this data, and it will be a shame (though not the end of the world) if the task no longer works. Thanks in advance. Note: This was originally posted at the WP:VPT. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:22, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

BG19bot defect[edit]

Please examine this sequence for Opple Lighting

You will see that the first had a mix of = = and == == combinations, which despite the single equal sign error (WP:MOSHEAD), did maintain the Table of Contents with subdirectories.

When BG19bot made its edits in the second, it converted the = = combination but not did not attend to the the == == combination. Thus, the Table of Contents lost all notion of subdirectories, as everything was a level 1 heading.

I made the repair in the third, reestablishing the subdirectories.

Please disable the BG19bot tool until this has a fix as it is currently doing more harm than good.

Peaceray (talk) 05:34, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

This is a duplicate of User talk:Bgwhite#BG19bot defect so please discuss there, per WP:MULTI. --Redrose64 (talk) 08:21, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Peaceray always try contacting the bot owner first. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:36, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Magioladitis, I did leave a message on the owner's talk page first, but I also thought that the damage it was doing was serious enough to raise it in this forum. I probably should have posted something here pointing at that discussion as per Redrose64's comment, but it was late at night for me, & we do not always make the best decisions when tired. Peaceray (talk) 05:23, 19 September 2014 (UTC)