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Nominations for WEF Board[edit]

As well as a new RFC, I think it's high time that we started nominating members for the WEF Board.

As the WEF has constituted itself, it has suggested that there are three slots on the board reserved for Wikipedians nominated by the community. I propose two names below, and hope that they would accept these nominations. I would be interested to hear others. Self-nominations are welcome. Once we know how many nominees there are, we can decide how to proceed (via elections or whatever).

Update: following User:Wadewitz's appointment to the board, while this community process was ongoing, it's not clear if the WEF Board sees there as being two or three "Wikipedian" slots open. In the end, however, I suggest that this is really down to the community not to the WEF. --jbmurray (talkcontribs) 09:23, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


  • User:Colin. Colin is, as we all know, passionate and informed about the Education Program. He is critical of the way in which it has been implemented, but I think the Board needs to integrate constructive criticism into its procedures. He is also an editor who has focussed on Medical articles, and it is obvious that such articles are a particular flashpoint for discussions about the program. Finally, he is eminently rational and reasonable, thoughtful and articulate. His contributions the discussion of the program on Wikipedia are always well-judged (and I say this as someone who doesn't tend to agree with them). I think he would be a splendid addition to the board. Proposed by --jbmurray (talkcontribs) 18:40, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


  • Support. Knowledgeable editor who can produce featured content. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 12:34, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Suppport As has been very involved and done much analysis of the output from this effort. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 13:38, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Support. I think that he would bring a helpful perspective. --Tryptofish (talk) 16:55, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I've not been able to keep up with this board this week. And that's my main problem. I just don't have the free time needed for this. Also, my passion is no substitute for experience and I have no experience helping with these classes and directly dealing with students and profs. -- Colin°Talk 09:05, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Understood. --jbmurray (talkcontribs) 09:23, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


  • User:Biosthmors. I don't think that anyone, on the WEF board or off it, has shown more enthusiasm and energy for discussions of the Education Program on Wikipedia. He is an experienced online ambassador, who has a long history of working with the program. He is continually and tirelessly making proposals and engaged in debate. Again, this is not somebody with whom I find myself consistently in agreement, but I feel that the WEF urgently needs board members who are active and energetic, on Wikipedia as well as off. I think that he, too, would be a splendid addition to the board's ranks. Proposed by --jbmurray (talkcontribs) 18:40, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


  • Comment. I just saw this and haven't even had the time to read it all because I'm replying to another discussion about the education program, but at this point I'm not sure how I feel about being nominated. I'll have to think about it. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 11:54, 24 November 2013 (UTC)


  • User:Wadewitz is a Wikipedian almost without equal in her production of Featured Articles and her reviews and feedback on others. She is also, by common consent, among the most successful (if not the most successful) of educators who have integrated Wikipedia into their classes. Moreover, having Wadewitz on the board provides a link to other important initiatives such as HASTAC and FemTechNet. She is, finally, a person of utmost integrity and good sense--with whom I personally find myself almost always in agreement. I fear she may not accept this nomination, but very much hope that she does. She would be an important and game-changing member of the WEF Board. --jbmurray (talkcontribs) 18:57, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
  • I am committed to finding ways to bridging the gap between academia and Wikipedia, so I would be happy to do my best in this role. Wadewitz (talk) 22:19, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


Appointed by the WEF Board on November 25, 2013.

Kevin Gorman[edit]

  • I'm one of few people to have participated in almost every aspect of the program; I've been a CA, an OA, an instructor, and a Wikipedian. This year I'll be embarking on a project at UC Berkeley to better integrate Wikipedia in to higher education, specifically in underrepresented disciplines. I believe this program has phenomenomal potential to set a functional model for other schools to emulate - a model that would shift the burden of the program to the schools, and away from the community. I see the problems the educational program has caused the community - especially the medical editors - and I want to figure out how to sort them out while still having a productive EP. I look at the WEF as the surface of contact between academia and the Wikipedia community rather than the USEP's controller, and I believe (and have always believed) that the ENWP community has the potential to sanction education program classes. At times, I have strongly supported such measures. I've interacted with all groups involved in the program including educational technologists, senior administrators, instructors, professors, various bureaucrats, the education folks at the Foundation (including Jami who is now WEF,) and the community at large. I've consistently been a presence at ENB, and although some people have not always liked my answers, I've at least always been here. Kevin Gorman (talk) 17:35, 26 November 2013 (UTC)


Doc James[edit]

I am interested in joining the board of the WEF. Have been involved with student editing projects in a number of capacities including speaking at half a dozen universities on Wikipedia and Medicine over the last three years.[1] Am involved with the efforts at UCSF [2] and am on the clinical faculty at the University of British Columbia in the Department of Emergency Medicine.[3] Additionally was one of the founding members of Wikimedia Canada and Wikiproject Med Foundation so have a bit of experience with non profits. Additionally I attend Wikimania self funded every year and plan to continue to do so. Would be good to have face to face meeting their. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 07:14, 26 November 2013 (UTC)


  • Strong, enthusiastic support. I am very enthusiastic about this nomination. He is very knowledgeable, and understands both "sides" of the issues. I think it would be very important to have him as a member. --Tryptofish (talk) 16:58, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Add Nominations and Self-Nominations here[edit]

General Discussion[edit]

  • Medicine is a hot topic on Wikipedia generally and in the education program especially. I hope that there is thoughtful consideration about any candidate who is familiar with the work of WP:WikiProject Medicine. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:53, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Jbmurray, thanks for starting these nominations -- we are actively considering these and other candidates. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 15:17, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

I presume you're not considering any other candidates for the Wikipedian slots. But it's good to hear that you're working on getting the other slots filled, too. Presumably you'll explain the transparent process that you've decided on for how to fill these other slots when the time comes. --jbmurray (talkcontribs) 15:34, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
We have been sent other names as suggestions; and others have self-nominated -- in both cases I'm referring to the Wikipedian slot. Having names suggested and supported by the community is important, even if we don't have an elections process yet, and I'm glad to have this section here. We're also looking at the non-Wikipedian slots, and are considering the names you suggested there. The short version of the process for next summer is that it will probably be some kind of on-wiki election. Speaking strictly for myself, since the board hasn't discussed this in any detail yet, I'd like to use self-nomination with either a simple vote of support process, or, if there's a reason to do so, something more like the Arbcom process, which has secret ballots. Haven't given any serious thought yet to which is better but would like to see discussion here. Also I suspect there should be some minimum activity level to be able to vote or run, as there is for ArbCom. If you have any thoughts on how the elections should be run, please share them. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:58, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Well, I'm presuming that the process by which nominations take place is decided on Wikipedia, by Wikipedians. I see no reason why the WEF Board should determine this. That would be totally bizarre. --jbmurray (talkcontribs) 23:14, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

See below -- Wadewitz has been elected to the board of the WEF. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 05:09, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Campus Ambassador application: shawn.carrie[edit]

Shawn.carrie (talk · contribs)

  1. Why do you want to be a Wikipedia Ambassador?
    Wikipedia represents an unprecedented historical paradigm shift in the opening of access to information and higher learning. I fully intend on continuing to proselytize its virtues and work to grow the project's influence and prominence with a wider audience, and academia is a primary use community that can naturally contribute to the project, while reciprocally benefiting from its open principles.
  1. Where are you based, and which educational institution(s) do you plan to work with as a Campus Ambassador?
    New York City - The New School for Social Research
  1. What is your academic and/or professional background?
    Current MA Student (Politics); Freelance Journalist / News Editor
  1. In three sentences or less, summarize your prior experience with Wikimedia projects.
  1. What else should we know about you that is relevant to being a Wikipedia Ambassador?

@OhanaUnited, Neelix, Ktr101, Pharos, Pongr: @Sleuthwood, Etlib, Daniel Simanek, Biosthmors, Kayz911: @DStrassmann, Rjensen, Bluerasberry, Kevin Gorman: --Shawn.carrie (talk) 08:03, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

  • User:Shawn.carrie, thanks for your interest and contributions to Wikipedia. It seems we don't grant this user right unless there is a class to work with. Do you already have a class? We welcome your further involvement in Wikipeida's mission, however. Thanks again for your interest. I noticed you created Charter of Grenoble. Maybe you could add some references? Also, I'm not sure it is encyclopedic to have a copy of preamble pasted in. We tend to shy away from WP:LONGQUOTES. Best regards, and let us know here if you have any questions about how to edit? Alternatively, you can try the WP:Teahouse. Also User:Pharos is active in the NYC area with education initiatives and WP:meetups. Best. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 15:19, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Shawn.carrie I sent you an email. How would you feel about joining us at the end of May at our WikiConference in Lower Manhattan? If you came to that then I think we could find something fun for you. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:30, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Joses Paul[edit]

Josespaul (talk · contribs)

  1. Why do you want to be a Wikipedia Ambassador?
    I would love to be a Wikipedia Ambassador,act as a liaison between Wiki and my University and learn more about Wikimedia projects.

and I am very much eager to be Wikipedia Ambassador as I have a great interest and passion for Outreach programs. I Just love giving talks.I poses Good Leadership Qualities, Good Co-ordinating and managing skills, Get it Done attitude, self-motivated, I am very much passionate about teaching other about the technology and stuffs. Being a Wikipedia Ambassador would improve my co-ordinating skills and further expand my knowledge and working as a Wikipedia Ambassador would multiply my chances to attain my goal and my dream.

  1. Where are you based, and which educational institution(s) do you plan to work with as a Campus Ambassador?
    Anna University Chennai.
  2. What is your academic and/or professional background?
    Major:Electrical and electronics Engineering (Bachelors degree)
 Year :3rd year (Pre -Final Year) 
 GPA  :3 out of 4
  1. In three sentences or less, summarize your prior experience with Wikimedia projects.
    In Simple words I would say that: Wikipedia, Wikiquote and Wikibooks are the inevitable helping hand for every student/professional on the surface of the planet.
  2. What else should we know about you that is relevant to being a Wikipedia Ambassador?
    My Prior Experiences as Ambassador
 Google Student Ambassador- India 
 Mozilla Regional Ambassador - South Asia 
 Global IEEE Ambassador for IEEE Day. 
 Chairman for IEEE JEC SB , Region 10 - Asia Pacific. 
 Core Team Member of Adobe Designer Group Chennai. 
 Anna university Ambassador. Campus Ambassador.

About me:Joses Paul

@OhanaUnited, Neelix, Ktr101, Pharos, Pongr: @Sleuthwood, Etlib, Daniel Simanek, Biosthmors, Kayz911: @DStrassmann, Rjensen, Bluerasberry, Kevin Gorman: --Josespaul (talk) 01:23, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

You will need way more Wikipedia experience before you should apply again. OhanaUnitedTalk page 02:05, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
By "way more experience" that just means editing a few times a week for some months. We really need more contributors from India but in this program, we have to start with people who edit Wikipedia themselves so that they can teach others. I encourage you to develop a few Wikipedia articles for some time then come back. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:23, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Considering that he uploaded copyrighted images (this, this, and this) to Commons while claiming to be licensed under CC-BY shows his woefully inadequate understanding of copyright laws. I'm tagging those images for copyright violations. OhanaUnitedTalk page 23:59, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
As an Indian, and a fellow student from India, I think this would be great, having a Campus ambassador out here, but after what happened with IEP in 2011, I'd tread carefully. Along with this, I don't see this happening anytime, not till Anna University [or any other Indian one] becomes more flexible, and drops it's 'mug-every-line-of-the-textbook-and-write-your-exam' method. My wo cents. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 19:15, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Request for course instructor right: Garcia-FM[edit]


Ignacio Garcia


University of Western Sydney

Course title and description

Course description: A7456 Interpreting & Translation Professional Practicum

Assignment plan

students asked to translate into their mother tongue a Wikipedia page; they are to work in the Sandbox, where the task will be assessed; students will be encouraged to publish it only after approved by instructor.

Number of students

Some ten.

Start and end dates

Class started in 26 Feb and finish on June 2nd @OhanaUnited, Neelix, Ktr101, Pharos, Pongr: @Sleuthwood, Etlib, Biosthmors, Kayz911: @Jami (Wiki Ed), Rjensen, Bluerasberry, Kevin Gorman: --Garcia-FM 05:11, 11 April 2014 (UTC) This user is user:Garcia-fm / user talk:Garcia-fm. Stuartyeates (talk) 07:22, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Return to the Course pages module.

  • Support I have talked to this instructor several times periodically over the last two years. I have seen articles produced by his class and they look good. This person already understands a lot about Wikipedia and has proven to be tolerant of all the chaos which happens when new users work in both English and other language Wikipedias. I trust this user to be in good communication with established Wikipedians if any problem arises. For an example of one translation done, see the English and Chinese versions of Satellite Boy. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:21, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Review my med school class, please[edit]

Hello! I presented at a Wikipedia workshop for Education Program:Harvard University/Obgyn bootcamp (April 2014) . There are only a few students and the ones that participated (about 5) contributed live edits. I would appreciate anyone who can comment on their work to do so at a pace that is comfortable to you, if this is comfortable at all. If there is appetite for it then I would like to organize more outreach to med schools, and I need to gauge how much feedback can be anticipated. Thanking students for edits helps! Thank you. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:27, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Online Ambassador application: harrybrowne1986[edit]


Harrybrowne1986 (talk · contribs)

  1. Why do you want to be a Wikipedia Ambassador?
  2. In three sentences or less, summarize your involvement with Wikimedia projects.
  3. Please indicate a few articles to which you have made significant content contributions. (e.g. DYK, GA, FA, major revisions/expansions/copyedits).
  4. How have you been involved with welcoming and helping new users on Wikipedia?
  5. What do you see as the most important ways we could welcome newcomers or help new users become active contributors?
  6. Have you had major conflicts with other editors? Blocks or bans? Involvement in arbitration? Feel free to offer context, if necessary.
  7. How often do you edit Wikipedia and check in on ongoing discussions? Will you be available regularly for at least two hours per week, in your role as a mentor?
  8. How would you make sure your students were not violating copyright laws?
  9. If one of your students had an issue with copyright violation how would you resolve it?
  10. In your _own_ words describe what copyright violation is.
  11. What else should we know about you that is relevant to being a Wikipedia Ambassador?

Vishal Bakhai 20:15, 15 April 2014 (UTC)


(Two endorsements are needed for online ambassador approval.)

  • I think you may need to gain some more experience working with Wikipedia before applying to be an OA. Can you explain some of the basics behind Wikipedia's licensing? Could you explain to someone what the difference between the Wikimedia Commons and Wikipedia is?

On top of those concerns though, you recently uploaded a book, claiming a free license, that appears to be a pretty clear copyright violation. From the inside cover of the book:

All rights reserved; no part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise without the prior written permission of the Publisher. This book may not be lent, resold, hired out or otherwise disposed of by way of trade in any form of binding or cover other than that in which it is published without the prior written consent of the Publisher"

That looks like a pretty clear copyvio to me, and I'm going to pop over and take a look at it now :/ Kevin Gorman (talk) 20:31, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Notifying someone when you approve a course in their area[edit]

@OhanaUnited, Neelix, Ktr101, Pharos, Pongr: @Sleuthwood, Etlib, Biosthmors, Kayz911: @Jami (Wiki Ed), Rjensen, Bluerasberry, Kevin Gorman:

A lot of previous experience has shown that courses are more successful when they receive in-person support. California at least has finally gotten to the point where we have the ability to provide direct in-person support in most major metropolitan areas. We've also recently found a few classes in areas that we could've been providing physical support to earlier in the semester, but that we had not noticed. Unfortunately I frequently have days come up where I don't have time to check all the pings on ENB for instructor rights etc (or when I'm completely on vacation etc.)

As a request: when you grant instructor rights to a professor in someone else's region, could you make sure they know about it? Whether via an additional ping, a user talk message, an email, etc - anything works, just so long as the people potentially in place to provide direct inperson support are definitely aware of the course Best, Kevin Gorman (talk) 20:33, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Sure, Kevin. I can notify any time someone posts, too! I will ping on-wiki and via email. Jami (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:36, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
I can commit to trying to do this but I do not want it to be a hard rule. Additionally, I would like to know about any classes related to human health wherever they are, and would appreciate anyone pinging me if those arise. Yo Ktr101 a couple of weeks ago I snuck into your hood and presented to this class at a medical school in Boston. Blue Rasberry [[User talk:|(talk)]] 20:41, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
@Bluerasberry: Blasphemy! Regardless though, I'm glad that someone was able to help address that area, as I don't think any of the people up here are as qualified as you are. I am supportive of keeping this regional though, and only because it can help us show up in person. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:13, 18 April 2014 (UTC)