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Welcome to the Education Program Incidents page.

This page is for reporting and discussing specific incidents related to student editing and/or the Education Program on the English Wikipedia that require the intervention of experienced editors and/or administrators.

Topics may include:

  • Content issues created by real or potential student assignments
  • Unresponsive classrooms or those editing with poorly managed or structured courses
  • Classrooms editing without a course page or with an ambiguous page
  • And any other issue that might relate to student assignments

Of course, we should remain civil towards all participants and assume good faith.

  • Before posting a grievance about a user here, please discuss the issue with them on their user talk page.
  • You should generally notify any user who is the subject of a discussion. You may use {{ping}} or {{tiny ping}} to do so, or simply link their username when you post your comment. It is not required to contact students when their edits are only being discussed in the context of a class-wide problem.
  • Please include diffs to help us find the problem you are reporting.
  • Please sign all contributions, using four tilde characters "~~~~".
  • Threads are automatically archived after 7 days of inactivity.

Where possible and relevant, please include the following information with any report: Article(s), Course, Instructor, Online volunteers, and Student.

See also
  • Special:Courses (a list of courses using the Education Program extension)

University of Toronto Mississauga/CCT110: The Rhetoric of Digital and Interactive Media Environments (W14)[edit]

I first posted at this at the project I'm most involved with, WP:VG, seeking some direction, and got pointed here. I'm not sure how to interact with or approach education programs like this.

Education Program:University of Toronto Mississauga/CCT110: The Rhetoric of Digital and Interactive Media Environments (W14)  supported by WEF is popping up on a lot of our (WP:VG) articles right now. This program is requiring their students to edit stubs and add a minimum of 500 characters (I saw "2 paragraphs" mentioned somewhere as well). This is resulting in a lot wordiness, gameguide-ish text, and NPOV bias or fluff. It also does not appear that the program has taught students on citation templates, as they are manually formatting citations in line or adding them to reference sections with hard coded numbering, which then require other editors to correct.

What's the best way to interact with programs like this or communicate these issues? I do not think it is entirely appropriate for myself or our project to need to educate each student individually on citations and the like. I've dealt with this on three articles so far and seen it on others that I didn't get involved in. Having to reformat and rewrite this is somewhat frustrating, but I also don't want to bite. -- ferret (talk) 16:58, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Ferret. Since there people are already people talking about this on the Video Game noticeboard I will meet you there to follow up with this. If anyone has further issues with this class unrelated to video games then voice those here. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:34, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
And I've followed up on the talkpages of the professor and campus volunteers, directing them to the discussion at WP:VG. --jbmurray (talkcontribs) 20:49, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks all. We've indeed been following-up with your questions and comments on the noticeboard mentioned above. michaelh.dick (talk) 23:18, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Class project without a course page at University of California Irvine[edit]

There appears to be a class editing University of California, Irvine-related articles with no course page structure. (See [1], [2], [3], [4], and [5]) I've posted the {{Welcome student}} template on relevant talk pages; if editors more experienced with this kind of situation could provide some guidance as to how to proceed, I'd appreciate it. --TorriTorri(talk/contribs) 08:32, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

  • Well that's no good. I'll try to track them down tomorrow and chat with their instructor. Please do let me know if you get any hints about who their instructor is before I manage to figure it out. Thanks for finding the class and bringing it here. Best, Kevin Gorman (talk) 11:07, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
    • Judging from the usernames involved and types of edits, my best guess would be that the class is one of the general writing classes required of all students at the university. Unfortunately, there's a large amount of these classes taught every quarter and high instructor turnover, so I haven't been able to identify the specific instructor. --TorriTorri(talk/contribs) 20:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
    • The editors involved are essentially edit-warring (full disclosure, I continued to revert when I should not have, but once I realised the situation was turning into a slow-burning edit war, I haven't reverted since), or not following the BRD cycle. They're mostly re-adding information in the same general format (compare University of California, Irvine School of Physical Sciences, University of California, Irvine School of Social Sciences, Francisco J. Ayala School of Biological Sciences, and School of Social Ecology), so perhaps their grade depends on that information not being removed from Wikipedia? I've tried to engage at least one user ( here and here, but so far, there's been no direct response; it seems they don't really understand the concept of talk pages. I don't want to scare off new users, but it's getting out of hand. What do? --TorriTorri(talk/contribs) 00:33, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
      • Pinging Kevin Gorman, in case he's able to contact the instructor. If that doesn't work, post about it on each page's talk page, in the hope that other editors will see it and revert, so it isn't just you. Since the edits are not vandalism or defamatory, I don't see anything urgent about reverting them. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:45, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Sadly I couldn't track down the instructor, and am recovering from a concussion and limiting strenuous mental and physical tasks for the next couple weeks. Best, Kevin Gorman (talk) 06:56, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Kevin, I'm so sorry to hear that. TorriTorri, if you don't get good results from posting in article talk, please leave another message either here or at my user talk, and I'll take a look at helping you revert, so that you aren't alone in it. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:59, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

School project in Września, Poland?[edit]

There seems to be a school project on historic buildings in Września, Poland. 4 articles I've seen so far, all newly-created articles by newly-registered single-topic editors, and one editor at Talk:Courthouse in Września says it is a school project. (That unfortunate editor had his article erroneously deleted by a tagger and admin who forgot that buildings don't come under A7, then was accused of being a sockpuppet when a classmate joined the discussion, and was taken to 3RR noticeboard when s/he kept removing speedy delete tags - quite an introduction to editing!) The other 3 articles involved are Water towers in Września, Manor house in Chocicza Wielka, Manor house in Chocicza Wielka. I've suggested that they ask their teacher to read Wikipedia:School and university projects. There's nothing particularly problematic about the articles, but it would be nice if we could get the teacher better informed. PamD 11:37, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Wharton Business School course project?[edit]

See this section at ANI. Voceditenore (talk) 15:52, 3 May 2014 (UTC)