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Welcome to the Education Program Incidents page.

This page is for reporting and discussing specific incidents related to student editing and/or the Education Program on the English Wikipedia that require the intervention of experienced editors and/or administrators.

Topics may include:

  • Content issues created by real or potential student assignments
  • Unresponsive classrooms or those editing with poorly managed or structured courses
  • Classrooms editing without a course page or with an ambiguous page
  • And any other issue that might relate to student assignments

Of course, we should remain civil towards all participants and assume good faith.

  • Before posting a grievance about a user here, please discuss the issue with them on their user talk page.
  • You should generally notify any user who is the subject of a discussion. You may use {{ping}} or {{tiny ping}} to do so, or simply link their username when you post your comment. It is not required to contact students when their edits are only being discussed in the context of a class-wide problem.
  • Please include diffs to help us find the problem you are reporting.
  • Please sign all contributions, using four tilde characters "~~~~".
  • Threads are automatically archived after 7 days of inactivity.

Where possible and relevant, please include the following information with any report: Article(s), Course, Instructor, Online volunteers, and Student.

See also
  • Special:Courses (a list of courses using the Education Program extension)

Medical students in Barcelona[edit]

There has been a spate of new user accounts this month, all part of a class named BQUB14 (see [1]). According to User talk:Jytdog#students, they are all members of a particular class at the School of Medicine at the University of Barcelona. They have been turned loose on Wikipedia to edit various articles on proteins and such, with widely mixed results, and at least one page protection arising from edit warring.

I have reached out to one of the students to see if I can learn the name of the instructor. If so, I will recommend this instructor to read up on WP:SUP. Any other actions that the regulars of this noticeboard can suggest? WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:55, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for posting this! Users include BQUB14-Asegui, BQUB14-Iabad, BQUB14-Agrabosky, BQUB14-Mnezcollado, BQUB14-Ccarmona, BQUB14-Lbusquets, BQUB14-Martigues, BQUB14-Ebuades (really bad, edit warring led to page protection), BQUB14-Lpuig. I have asked a few times for them to talk more and for them to get their instructor to contact us too. Their assignment is apparently due Friday so the next few days might get a bit more intense with them. Jytdog (talk) 13:05, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
@LiAnna (Wiki Ed): I know that in the past, WMF folks have been very helpful in communicating with educational institutions in situations such as this one. Perhaps you or one of the other people who work with you could reach out to the University of Barcelona School of Medicine. Thanks! --Tryptofish (talk) 17:53, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
I don't work for WMF anymore, but here's the people who do! @AKoval (WMF), FKoudijs (WMF), TFlanagan-WMF: Can you help connect this class to the education efforts already happening in Barcelona? --LiAnna (Wiki Ed) (talk) 23:01, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Woops, I confounded WMF and Wiki Ed. This stuff is over my head, sorry! Maybe WikiDan61, Jytdog, or Kingofaces43 could help with that connection about Barcelona, since they are the editors who have actually been observing the edits in question. I was just trying to help connect them to staff people who could help. Thanks. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:42, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the students involved are completely non-communicative. I've asked to be put in touch with their instructor to no avail. The one communication that we were able to get out of them was that their assignment was due today, so we might hope that the issue will blow over and the damage can be repaired. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 01:52, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
There has definitely been odd behavior. I recently reverted an edit at RAB6A. Not long after I had that edit thanked by the user I reverted, only to have to them re-revert again. I'm not sure if something isn't getting across or what, but interacting with these students seems like it will be tough either way. Seems like getting a hold of the professor or at least watching pages closely until the due date has passed at least (hopefully) seem to be the only options at this point. Kingofaces43 (talk) 19:39, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
After pleading on the editors' and article's talk pages, there has been some progress with FERMT3. The student are now at least adding in-line citations. We clearly need to contact the instructor. Boghog (talk) 11:31, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
I'm trying to help out there as well. While they are at least starting to use citations, we're running into issues typical of student projects where it seems like they are writing a report rather than writing a Wikipedia article for a general audience. They're definitely moving too quickly for new users, but I'll see what I can tweak there to help out. Kingofaces43 (talk) 17:08, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Sorry for all this hassle. I will contact the Amical people in Barcelona and see if they can help out talking to the students or the instructor. Thanks for keeping an eye out! FKoudijs (WMF) (talk) 16:46, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi all, first of all thanks for your patience and for bringing this up. As an m:Amical Wikimedia member I must say this project is not part of one of our collaborations but we are trying to get in touch with the teacher to help him/her to improve their edits. I've contacted one of the students who answer your advices directly in Catalan language, hoping he/she puts me through their teacher. As we are doing other educational projects with the University of Barcelona, I'll try to send some emails to our collaborators to try to touch them IRL. I'll be back with some information as soon as i get it. Thanks again ;)--Kippelboy (talk) 05:31, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi again: I've contacted Amical members and volunteers who have done edu projects with this Faculty of the University of Barcelona. None of them knows the teacher but we have found that it already happened in Catalan wiki some time ago [2] and [3]. One of the volunteers who do edu projects told that he will contact "his project teacher" to see if our contact can discover who is the teacher of the BQUB students. Please give me some days. --Kippelboy (talk) 15:37, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Update: We've reached the teacher. He is a teacher of the Medicine Dept of the University of Barcelona. We are now arranging a meeting with him in real life so we can both know how to best collaborate with each other and how to better do an educational project on EN, ES and CA wikis. Thank you all for your time and patience.--Kippelboy (talk) 06:17, 3 November 2014 (UTC) (on behalf of Amical Wikimedia)
Update2: Finally we met the teacher in real life. We clarified with him the Dos and Donots on how to collaborate with Wikimedia and will guide him during next semester's edition. Thank you all for your patience again.--Kippelboy (talk) 06:37, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Looks like a class at Animal testing[edit]

They have shown up at that page making mostly useless edits that have been mostly reverted, in a manner that looks like an unidentified class project. Not a big deal to revert them, and I'm about to message their talk pages, but I figured I would note it here. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:32, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Stealth poli-sci class[edit]

There appears to be a poli-sci class editing without a course page. All of the accounts are similarly named and they have made edits today and on October 30th, all to US political biographies. The majority of the edits have been reverted for being unsourced or undue. There's a report at AN/I about it here. gobonobo + c 21:15, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Apparent Canadian class assignment - anybody know about it?[edit]

Today a whole bunch of new articles appeared on Wikipedia about exporting Canadian agricultural technology to Nepal. Each is written by a different, new editor, about a different agricultural product. In some cases they tout a particular commercial product, in other cases a generic product or technology. None of them are suitable as Wikipedia articles; they are analysis and how-to.

Here is a partial list of the articles: ‪Exportation of Canadian Lentils to Nepal‬, ‪Dairy Cattle Genetics‬, ‪CDC Baler Oat‬, ‪Sorghum-Sudan Hybrid Grass‬, ‪Fruit tree grafting‬. I've been prodding them as I come across them, but is there any way to find out who is behind this - and get them to understand what is and isn't a Wikipedia article? --MelanieN (talk) 02:31, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

P.S. Looking at the editing history of this page, it doesn't appear to be monitored and comments/complaints do not appear to be responded to. I will look around for someplace else to post this information. --MelanieN (talk) 02:35, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
This board isn't very busy, try WP:EDUN, many more eyes on it. — xaosflux Talk 05:21, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestion! --MelanieN (talk) 16:32, 27 November 2014 (UTC)