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Temperatures Rising[edit]

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Nominator(s): Jimknut (talk) 21:40, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

This article is about the 1972-73 American television sitcom Temperatures Rising. I have greatly expanded the text of this article and believe that it now features a fairly comprehensive history of the series. I want to upgrade this to FA level. Please offer any suggestions you can to improve it. Thanks. Jimknut (talk) 21:40, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello, anyone there? It has been more than three weeks since I made this a FAC and not one response! Jimknut (talk) 18:19, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jimknut, I think you might have better luck taking this through WP:GAN first. That might help to get rid of lingering prose and sourcing issues. For example, Find a Grave is not generally considered a reliable source. Once you've done that, to get to FAC you would need to deal with consistency problems, both in the references and in terms of compliance with the Manual of Style, as these issues are not generally covered at the GA level. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:44, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps I could indeed do better at the GAN level, but I really do want to push this article to an FA. As for lingering prose and sourcing issues, no one has commented on them so I have no idea which ones need updating. As for Find a Grave, I have used it to establish the birth dates of Paul Lynde and Sudie Bond. In both cases photos of there graves stones are displayed with the years of their births shown. Jimknut (talk) 00:05, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Comments from Dank[edit]

  • Has there been any discussion, for instance at WP:TV, on whether this should be one article or two? What you're calling the second format was a show with a different name, a different cast (except for one character), different subject matter, different tone, and on a different night, after a hiatus. I don't know the answer to this question, but I'd at least like to see a discussion about it. - Dank (push to talk) 15:47, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
    • No, there hasn't been any discussion at WP:TV on whether this should be one article or two. My opinion is that it should stay as one article because, despite so many alterations, it was officially the same show (i.e. the network toted it as such), much like, for instance, how The Virginian became The Men From Shiloh in its ninth season. Likewise, M*A*S*H is covered in one article even though it shifted from being a sitcom to a comedy drama and changed actors and characters during its run, although these changes were more gradual than the changes made to Temperatures Rising. I think, then, that separate articles would be appropriate only if there was an official spin-off, such as how The Jeffersons spun off from All in the Family, or if the revised version came many years after the original ended, such as the 1971-75 and the 2010-12 runs of Upstairs Downstairs. Jimknut (talk) 17:43, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
      • I'd like to see some discussion on the point among interested WPians. - Dank (push to talk) 17:48, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Closing comment[edit]

This has been open nearly a month without attracting enough commentary to determine consensus to promote so I'll be archiving it shortly. Personally I think the nominator's response to the question of one vs. two articles makes sense but let's see what the TV project discussion throws up. After that I'd suggest GAN, per Nikki, before returning to FAC. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 08:07, 15 August 2014 (UTC)