This is another list of the series of lists of National Treasures of Japan. It uses the same structure as the already featured shrine, painting and sculpture lists. I tried to incorporate comments from previous FLCs. I could not decide where to put the last paragraph of the lead. If you think it is better at the start, it could be easily changed. bamse (talk) 10:30, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Comment *No problems reported with dab links, alt text, or external links. Well done. TomStar81 (Talk) 13:12, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
I agree. This is very nice work, bamse. Very well done, indeed. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:36, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
This does indeed address most of the issues raised in previous FLCs. Nice work! I'm close to supporting, but the statistics table doesn't really make sense. When there are hundreds of items it's understandable to create a table, and state that there are some discrepancies, briefly explaining them. But when there are 8 castles and 13 structures I think it would be easier to just cover this as prose. The other extremely minor thing I saw was that [nb 2] comes before [nb 1] in the usage section. WFCforLife (talk) 06:53, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Replaced the small table with: The eight national treasures are distributed over four castles as follows: Himeji Castle has five national treasure structures; Hikone Castle, Inuyama Castle and Matsumoto Castle each have one national treasure. Also swapped nb 1 and nb 2. bamse (talk) 07:33, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Support. Short but sweet, covers the topic very nicely. WFCforLife (talk) 07:50, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
"This list presents eight" vs "In fact the number of structures presented is more than eight" one of these sentences, therefore, is incorrect. Or it just reads poorly. One way or another this could be fixed.
Fixed. (first "structures" changed to "National Treasures"). bamse (talk) 19:41, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
"each have one national treasure." no need to repeat "national treasure".
"three-stories/three floors" aren't stories the same as floors? and why is one hyphenated and the other not? If it's different can you explain why?
Added: A typical keep would have between three and seven stories discernible from the outside. Its inner structure including the number of floors could differ from the outward appearance. Castle towers at Himeji, Inuyama and Matsumoto Castle have one floor more than is visible from the outside. to the statistics section. Added: ... the number of stories (outside) and floors (inside) to the usage section and removed hyphens. bamse (talk) 21:07, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
What's a ha-corridor?
Added: "The four corridors at Himeji Castle are labeled as "I", "Ro", "Ha", "Ni" corresponding to "A", "B", "C", "D"." as a footnote. bamse (talk) 20:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
"[ex 1]; " move note to other side of punc per MOS (there are several of these)
Some of the templates don't expand for me - e.g. Buried Cultural Properties.
That should be the only part that does not expand (correct?). It is not supposed to expand (it is a feature), because there are no designated Buried Cultural Properties and there are too many Buried Cultural Properties, so there is not going to be a List of Buried Cultural Properties either. It would be good to get rid of the "[show]" for this row. I found a way to achieve this but it breaks center alignment of "Buried Cultural Properties". Also asked here for help. bamse (talk) 22:12, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Conservation techniques template is badly formatted - "Selected ConservationTechniques" there should be a space in there..
Any reason why your metres are to two decimal places while the feet are to just one?
No idea. I used "convert"-templates which take care of the conversion automatically. Since a foot is less than a meter, a one decimal foot-precision might be comparable to a two-decimal meter-precision. If you think it is a problem, I could ask the authors of the template or remove the templates all together from the article.
It does allow to specify decimal places. However the default behavior (without specifying anything) takes care of precision automatically. Citing from Template:Convert#Rounding: Default rounding: ..., the conversion will be rounded either to a comparable precision as the input value ... or to two significant figures, whichever is the most precise. Let's say you convert "1.1 m" (one decimal) to cm. Even without specifying anything the convert template will output "110 cm", i.e., no decimals. So the number of decimals does not have to be the same in input and output length. bamse (talk) 09:49, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Support: Another well made list. ≈ Chamaltalk¤ 13:05, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
Support Looks like a nice list. I do have a couple of comments though but nothing to cause me to withhold my support.
I wonder if the bit about "This list is complete and up-to-date as of January 2, 2010" is really necessary
It is not really necessary. I basically put it there to remind myself of the date I last checked its completeness. The Agency for Cultural Affairs gets together about four times per year to decide about the designation of new national treasures. In the 21st century there were each year between one and five new national treasures designated in one of the 13 categories. So the number of national treasures is growing slowly. Just checked: the castle list is still up-to-date as of today. If it is confusing, I could remove the template. bamse (talk) 23:20, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
If it's there to remind yourself, you could just put in a hidden HTML comment like so: <!-- Last updated on <date> --> Dabomb87 (talk) 23:50, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
Did that. bamse (talk) 00:01, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, consider doing that on the other National Treasure lists (including those that have been promoted to FL) as well. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:23, 15 February 2010 (UTC)