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August 30[edit]

Publishing an article[edit]

I have an article ready in my user pages. How do I transfer this for additional scrutiny by wikipedians? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JCFHowell (talkcontribs) 00:28, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

If you are willing to open it up to scrutiny, you can just move it from Draft:Philip Howell to just plain Philip Howell. However, I'd suggest working on it a lot more first. I already corrected the name, since there was no other Philip Howell article out there. But you need reliable sources, not an adulatory biography by his widow. You need to fully disclose your own conflict of interest. You need a less worshipful, more impartial tone. You need footnotes to the aforementioned reliable sources.--Orange Mike | Talk 00:54, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

wide picture scroll/downloading pictures/email confirmation code expired[edit]

How do I go about getting another confirmation code to validate my email so I can upload pictures? I this might help answer my next question. lsm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lenamose (talkcontribs) 01:24, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

The permission to upload images has nothing to do with confirming e-mail accounts. The permission is granted automatically to established accounts. See the link for details. However, you can instead upload to Commons where there is no autoconfirmed requirement. Images on Commons can be used on all Wikimedia projects including the English Wikipedia. SpinningSpark 09:45, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Christian Cardell Corbet[edit]

Reference help requested. trying to upload information on coat of arms for Christian Corbet

Thanks, (talk) 01:50, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

The error message on that page is pretty clear. It says "Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page)." The words "help page" are a wikilink to Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref. If you believe that the clarity of the error message or the help page can be improved, please let us know how. --David Biddulph (talk) 03:29, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

How to add reliable source/reference to an article written by me.[edit]

Hi Team,

Please can you guide me on how to add reliable source/reference to an article which I recently created. Thanks, Mumbaisearchlight. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mumbaisearchlight (talkcontribs) 06:30, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

There are useful links in the tag on the article, & on your user talk page. Start with WP:Reliable sources and WP:Referencing for beginners. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:45, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Strange blank space when using columns[edit]

On SS Admiral Sampson, I've created two columns to sort a long bulleted list. Trouble is, there's now a large white space above the bulleted list. Can someone help me figure out what's wrong? JKBrooks85 (talk) 06:30, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi JKBrooks85, I do not see a large white space above the list. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 09:27, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
What browser and version are you using? It is frequently Internet Explorer that exhibits this kind of display problem, but it looks ok to me in IE.11. SpinningSpark 10:04, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
@JKBrooks85: i think it may have been dependent upon the screen width with the {col begin} formatting pushing itself down to be below the bottom of the infobox- if your viewing screen was such that the list display would be below the bottom of the info box, you dont get any extra whitespace. the {div col} formatting doesnt seem to do that, setting up its columns in the text space regardless of any other formatting boxes.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:20, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
@TheRedPenOfDoom:, that seems to be the trick. Thanks! JKBrooks85 (talk) 22:27, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[edit]

Hi. I noticed you are using some images from my website, I have no objection to this but could you please give me a credit.

regards.......Ted — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:50, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

According to that image's file page the person who uploaded it got it from this site, not from yours (and it's apparently a different image, as it lacks the "ECM" notation at top left). In any event, the engraving depicted in the image was created by Robert Creighton in 1835 and is therefore in the public domain—what credit, exactly, do you expect to be given? Deor (talk) 13:19, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
I agree that it's a different image; but I don't find the "ECM" notation as convincing. That would be fairly easy to photoshop away. I am more convinced by the discoloration around the "g" of "Bowling". A cunning maker of an illegal copy might have added that, but it seems unlikely.
I understand that in creating images from scans of out-of-copyright works, UK law recognises "sweat of the brow" as imparting new copyright in the image, but US law says that there is no new copyright as no creativity is involved. Maproom (talk) 13:52, 30 August 2014 (UTC)


Good day. I would like to find out, is it ever okay or permitted for Wikipedia:Consensus (or lack of consensus) established by editors (a few or many) ... resulting in major policies like Wikipedia:Verifiability or Wikipedia:No original research being overruled? Thank you. starship.paint ~ regal 15:09, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Ignore all rules. SpinningSpark 15:25, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Note that merely citing IGNORE ALL RULES does not mean that you get to ignore the rules. There is an important conditional "If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia" - you would need to establish that there is an improvement to the encyclopedia, and also be aware that a "consensus" made amongst a small group of editors will rarely have any actual authority to override such well established and community approved policies such as Wikipedia:Verifiability or Wikipedia:No original research .-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:37, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Out of date Structure on[edit]

Dear Wikipedia Staff/editors

I have noticed that the 'Structure' section in is out of date. You can see the full list of members on the MAGIC webpage:

I would appreciated if you could update this list.

Many thanks and best regards.

Sara maths (talk) 15:14, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. Maproom (talk) 15:33, 30 August 2014 (UTC)


Hi! I was just wondering if there is some group of people who are interested in helping stuff look better. (Specifically portals.) I have noticed that many portals have great content, but don't seem to look very good. Unfortunately, I am not very good at making things look nice. I was working on the Energy portal when I got the idea to ask. One thing that I thought would be nice was making pictures in the portals match each other. For example, all pictures in one portal should either be actual pictures, OR drawings/ cartoons. Sorry for rambling. :) I put this in the Teahouse and no one replied, so I thought it might not be the right place to ask something like this. If this isn't the right place for a suggestion/question either, I'd be glad if someone told me where to ask this! :) JonathanHopeThisIsUnique (talk) 15:42, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

The most suitable places for discussing this that immediately spring to mind are Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals and Wikipedia:Village pump. My personal opinion on the idea of not mixing photographs and drawings is that it is a ridiculous idea. SpinningSpark 16:24, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much for answering my question! :) As I said, I'm not very good with making things look nice, which is exactly why I was hoping there was some sort of group that works to help with this sort of thing. And I do think that photographs and drawings can look really nice together; what I meant to say was that some of the more cartoonish pictures/drawings seem to kind of clash with more realistic/detailed pictures/drawings. Of course, that's just my personal opinion. Again, thanks for taking the time to read this! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JonathanHopeThisIsUnique (talkcontribs)

@JonathanHopeThisIsUnique: the Wikipedia:Graphics Lab has people that create and clean up images and they might be a good resource. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 23:31, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
@TheRedPenOfDoom: Thanks! This is definitely going in the right direction. :) JonathanHopeThisIsUnique (talk) 13:30, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Nalli -Thisai Ettum English Translation Literary Award -2014 awarded to Dr Anaivaari R. Anandan[edit]

Nalli -Thisai Ettum English Translation Literary Award -2014 has been awarded to Dr Anaivaari R. Anandan for his translation of 105 Modern Tamil Poems into English, published by Kavikkuyil Pathippagam,Chennai.

As an established poet,writer, author of about 70 works in Tamil and English and the Editor and Publisher of the Kavikkuyil- Tamil Monthly, Dr Anaivaariyar has translated 12 Siddha Medical Works from Tamil into English, while he was working as Special Officer(Translation), in Indian Medicine Dept, Govt. of Tamilnadu. He has also translated 4 Sahitya Akademi works from Telugu,Marathi, Bengali and Oriya into Tamil through English.And presently he is translating Poet Dev's Punjabi Poems into Tamil. An Anthology of Modern Tamil Poetry-2013, published in 2013 has now won the Nalli-Thisai Ettum Translation Award fpr best English Translation. Dr. M.Thirumalai Vice Chancellor of Tamil University and Dr. Padma Shree Nalli Kuppusamy Chetti awarded a Cash Prize of Rs 15000/- and a Citation to him at the Function held at Gandhi Kalai Mandram at Rajapalayam on 17th August,2014. He has also won the Manimekalai Mandram Translation Award -2014, a Cash Prize of Rs 5000/- plus a citation for the same work at the same function held at Rajapalayam on 17th August 2014. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:10, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

This is the Help Desk for information about using and editing Wikipedia. If you wish to suggest an article, please use the articles for creation process. Note that for the subject to merit an article, it must meet some basic requirements such as having been the subject of significant discussion by third party reliably published sources. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:01, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Cropping and sizing images[edit]

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T albidum cropped and expanded
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T albidum cropped

I am trying to get the gallery of Taraxacum species at Taraxacum#Classification to look tidier.

I know how to control the size of an image, using methods described at Wikipedia:Picture_tutorial. And I know how to crop a specified portion from an image, as described at Template:CSS_image_crop. But I have failed to figure out how to do both at once – to take a specified portion from an image and then present it at a specified size. Can anyone advise? Maproom (talk) 17:42, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Are you trying to do something like in these images? SpinningSpark 18:25, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
To make the cropped image, say, 50% bigger while retaining the same portion being shown, just increase all the parameters by 50%. Example shown at left. SpinningSpark 18:34, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! That is exactly what I needed! Maproom (talk) 18:53, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

revising references[edit]

How do I enter the original reference box in order to make changes to items in the list of references? For instance, some ISBN #s need correcting, and some urls need to be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr.DKSage (talkcontribs) 22:57, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Not sure quite what you are talking about, but WP:REFB might have the specifics for you. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 23:01, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
@Dr.DKSage: If you are talking about this State Crimes Against Democracy and how to fix the red "ISBN missing" note that display at the bottom of the page, you need to edit in the body of the article where the footnote itself is placed. But that really is the most minor of the issues with that page! OY!-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 23:25, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

August 31[edit]

Help! Edits not showing up![edit]

After I make the edit, and,am prompted to give a reason and then save, I do so...but the edit is NOT then saved to page. Help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnsgirl84 (talkcontribs) 10:30, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

What page are you having difficulties with. You have made many edits to John Belushi and they are showing up. GB fan 11:43, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
Hi Johnsgirl84 If the edits in question are those you made to John Belushi, per above, then the issue may be that you are not seeing the successful changes after saving because you're being shown a cached version. To fix this, to the extent relevant, try bypassing your cache. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:33, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
@Johnsgirl84: One of your edits added a line of text inside a pair of <ref>...</ref> tags. The text you added is showing up, but it is down in reference 14 where you may not have expected it. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:56, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Permanent link to a reference[edit]

To get the full effect please read through this before you click on any of the external links. The Asuilaak (or Inuktitut) Living Dictionary is used as a reference about 83 times on Wikipedia, The problem is that most of them do not lead to the correct term. If I go to List of mammals of Nunavut there is a link to the start page of the dictionary. At Igloo (reference 1) and Inuksuk (reference 2) there are links to the term on the dictionary. However, clicking on those links will lead me to the start page on the dictionary and not to the word.

If, using "iglu" as an example you enter the site and type in iglu and search you get which has one English result and 156 Roman Inuktitut results. Click on the Roman Inuktitut link and then the first link that reads "iglu - [Roman Inuktitut] translates to: house house habitation snowhouse igloo sod house" and you are finally at the correct place. Now if you go back to inukshuk and click on reference 2 and you now end up on the correct page. And as far as I know most references to that site will now go to the correct page.

Next follow the " is linked from Muktuk" from Wikipedia's External links page above. It should give you the page for muktuk. Once you have done that go back and recheck the iglu and inukshuk and one of two things will happen. You will either get the correct page with muktuk in the search page. Or you get the Roman Inuktitut page, with muktuk in the search box, which has no entries. The English one has the entries.

By the way restarting the browser seems to reset all the links back to the opening page.

So, and about time I know, is there any way to link to the correct page on the dictionary each and every time and not being sent to the start page? CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 14:27, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm not seeing that at all, the links always go to the correct page for me. The term in the search box is irrelevant, that just sticks on the last term you entered (or was in the url of a link to a search results) until you do a new search. It has no effect on pages that are linked directly with an item id number. Can you give an example without any ifs or alternatives, just a list of exact actions that are guaranteeed to produce the wrong result? I suspect you may be having caching issues with your browser, see Wikipedia:Bypass your cache. SpinningSpark 15:35, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
OK. I started from scratch. Rebooted the computer (Windows 8) and following the instructions at Wikipedia:Bypass your cache#Cache clearing and disabling to clear the cache for both Firefox and Chrome. I then opened up the Inuksuk and Igloo pages followed the links in the references and got the dictionary start page. I closed one of the start page tabs and used the other to take me to I then followed the Roman Inuktitut link to get to the iglu page and then to the correct page, which I then closed. I then reopened the igloo and inuksuk pages and followed the references and in both cases ended up at the correct listing. I then went to which sent me to the muktuk listing. I then went to and both of which returned me to the muktuk page.
After that I went to work and using one of the work computers on Windows XP with Firefox and Opera ran through the above with exactly the same results. As far as I know I have never used the work computer to vist Wikipedia or the dictionary and certainly not in Opera.
My laptop was at work so I followed the same steps as in the first secion using Firefox and Chrome on Windows 7. Another reboot and on Ubuntu 14.04 again with FF and Google. In both case the results were the same as above. Along the way I remembered User talk:BluesBlackDream#Nanook. They had made this edit to try and fix the problem. But it didn't work and they noticed that here. The problem can be duplicated and has be observed by at least one other person. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 04:34, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Cookies. Living dictionary sets a cookie that identifies to it which font it should use when sending pages to your browser.
Trappist the monk (talk) 11:30, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Does that mean there is no way get directly to the page you want from here? CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 17:44, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
It would seem so, at least until you have reset the cookie by clicking "Enter site". It seems the cookie is set to rapidly expire (session cookie). It would be possible for the site to remember the page you had requested while the font was being set but that is a problem for them to fix, not us. SpinningSpark 09:07, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

New page[edit]

How long does it take before a new page is published? I made a page, but it's still a draft?

It's this page: Draft:Kristina Shapran

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by LaraSophia (talkcontribs) 14:31, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

You didn't submit the draft. Try pasting {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft. You might want to read about bare urls. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:38, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

changing my user[edit]

how can i change my user. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iuliacirstea (talkcontribs)

@Iuliacirstea: Your user what? Username? If so, see Wikipedia:Changing username. Dismas|(talk) 15:28, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
...or considering that you have made only three edits, create a fresh account. --Fauzan✆ talk✉ mail 06:44, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Edit requests[edit]

I have a particular edit-request scenario which I can't find a template for.

We're working towards a consensus on an article and the proposed change would require adding a column to a very large table. The change would be tedious to complete as a manual edit and I'm sure someone, somewhere has an automated tool(s) to complete that type of edit more efficiently.

There are templates for requesting edits in situations where the page is protected or when an editor has a conflict of interest, but I can't find anything for edit requests in this situation. So, how do you make a request for an edit to a page in a case where you don't have the skills/tools/inclination to make the edit yourself? Sparkie82 (tc) 20:20, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

First of all, this desk is not always the best place for technical requests, WP:VPT might be better. Adding a new column to a table is just a matter of adding an extra pipe character to each row. Most of the effort is in typing in all the data. How were you envisaging presenting the data to the automated process? At some stage the data has to be created by typing; you may as well type it straight into the table. If the table in question is the one in List of current United States Senators that is not so big. For a larger table and a pre-existing data set to incorporate, I might work on it in excel with formulas or macros, but for a small task like this it is more effort than it is worth. It is probably more effort than it is worth just to search for some pre-existing tool. Certainly a request template is inappropriate (even though it would be dead easy to make one). That is just asking someone else to do the work for you. SpinningSpark 10:15, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I didn't mean for this to sound like a technical question -- it's more of a general question about facilitating the division of labor when working on an article. Some editors are more skilled at certain tasks or prefer doing certain things. I may like reorganizing or rewriting articles, whereas someone else is really good at tables, or grammar. I have gone through each row of the table and researched a specific aspect of the content in one of the columns for each row because I like doing that and I'm good at it. Now it looks like the table needs a new column. I could manually go through the whole table to add the column, but there is probably someone else on WP who could do it more efficiently and who really likes to work on tables. The question is, how do I flag the article (or any article in this kind of situation in the future) for that type of request? The talk page is not viewed very frequently, so just placing a specific note there probably wouldn't work. Is there a template that says something like, "Hey, this article has a table that needs work, if you're good at table work..."?
(With regard to tools, I did a quick check before asking this question here and found some WYSIWYG table editors, but none that could insert a column, as you can in a spreadsheet. Your suggestion to convert it to a spreadsheet, work on it, then convert it back may be the best route to take, but for me to research and learn that sequence of tasks -- or any other semi-automated process would take longer than to manually edit the table, however, for someone who specializes in tables it would be a more trivial task.) Sparkie82 (tc) 03:10, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
I did not reply directly to your request for a template because I don't think it is an appropriate thing to do. Maintenance templates are for highlighting something that needs fixing in an article, not for "I would like something added to this article but can't be asked to do it myself". The only template that is remotely relevant is the one that says this section should be expanded. You can of course create your own template; there are some generic notice templates that allow you to insert your own message. But as I say, I don't think it is a good idea to do it and I doubt very much that the template would get the result you desire. Most maintenance templates just sit there for years with no action. Asking for work on a table is a technical request. Another possibility is that Microsoft Word can be set up as your default editor or else there are tools to convert Word to Mediawiki. Word easily handles table operations of this sort. I don't know how well Word tables are imported into Mediawiki but I suspect that even if you had it all set up already there would still be more effort required in tinkering with the table appearance formatting to get that consistent than the effort required to enter the data directly in the first place. The task is just too small to interest anyone with the necessary skills. SpinningSpark 08:47, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Edit reverted that I disagree with[edit]

See the last item on the Talk page for Tenure. I put it in originally with no documentation, it got reverted, I got it put back in with documentation, and it got reverted again by the same person. I don't agree with him and think that the documentation I cite supports what I wrote. Is there anything else I can do? Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 20:44, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

@Deisenbe: The thing that you DO NOT do is edit war so it is good that you came here.
While you have provided links in your proposed edit, you need to ensure that 1) you are accurately representing the sources, both in what they are presenting and the manner in which they are presenting it and 2) that the sites are authoritative sources for the claims they are presenting and 3) that any points of view being presented are in proportion with the mainstream academics views.
I see problems with all 3 points. in essence you are trying to place in the article as a fact in Wikipedia's voice, claims that have not been proven to be true and are still just theories, and are theories that are not widely held in the mainstream at all.
If my analysis is incorrect, then you should use the article's talk page to make your case and show why. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:24, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikimedia Pageviews?[edit]

Is there a way to view pageviews for individual files uploaded to Wikimedia? I've uploaded a decent amount of photos to Wikimedia and I'd like to see if they are generating any activity. --Skarz (talk) 21:07, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

The process for seeing the pageviews for a Wikimedia file is the same as for a Wikipedia article. Go to the file's page, click on the "History" tab, then click on the words "Page view statistics". Maproom (talk) 21:32, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
However, the stats you get that way refer, it seems, only to direct accesses to the file's page on Commons. At least, that is my guess as to why the stats say that an article has had 200 hits in the last month, while the image at the top of that article has had only three hits. Maproom (talk) 21:38, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Circular peridoc data charts[edit]

I am desperate to learn how to read circular periodic data chats and graph's. I've never seen a graph or chart like this I really need help in reading circular area peridoc data charts and graphs — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:06, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

This is the help desk for how to edit Wikipedia, not a tutoring service. You might try the reference desk to see if they can point you to some "charts and graphs for beginners" resources. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:15, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

September 1[edit]

Request for Extension[edit]


I am new to Wikepedia and need time to understand how to insert references for an article i ma working on. Also the article is scheduled for deletion tomorrow. Could you please grant me an extension till Sunday 7th September 2014?

Alternatively , could i share the reference links with your team ? Can they be added to the article at your end?

Appreciate your help

Thanks and regards, Ramita — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramita.k.singh (talkcontribs) 06:01, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

@Ramita.k.singh: you can request that it be moved to draft space or your user sandbox rather than be deleted.
Information about how to appropriately format references is at WP:REFB
information about what qualifies as an appropriate reference is found at WP:RS. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 06:15, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Fixing a ref tag[edit]

How do you get an </ref> tag back to normal — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:48, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for trying to fix the problem that someone caused on Gateshead Millennium Bridge. I think I have got it back to normal with this edit that I just made. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 06:51, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

The problems are in not correctness or in plagiarizm?[edit]

We already wrote you that the site Marphytag7 (talk) 08:33, 1 September 2014 (UTC)" Faster-than-light neutrino anomaly" has been written uncorrectly by some reasons: 1)you may violate the priority of the first authors V.Ammosov and G. Volkov in [1]<2></ref><3>[2]</5>We continue to work in this very perspective direction what we started in 1999!

With the best regards from NEUTRINO LIGHT COMMUNITY prof. G. VolkovMarphytag7 (talk) 08:33, 1 September 2014 (UTC)<1><Arxiv:hep-ph/0008032></2><Padua preprint DFPD-00/TH/39><3><1. Neutrino Oscillations - Muon Storage Rings at CERN Neutrino Oscillation Working Group meetings ... February 2000 Tuesday 29 February 2000>,</4><“Oscillation physics with neutrino factory” arXiv:hep-ph/0210192v113Oct2002, CERN-TH/2002-208, hep-ph/0210192 ></ref5><“ Geometry of Majorana neutrino and new symmetries” Annales de la Fondation Louis de Broglie, Volume 31 no 2-3, 2006. 227.. >

  1. ^ <1>
  2. ^ </4>of this idea and projects of such neutrino velocity measurement experiments what we planned to do in CERN in 1999-2004 and what were considered and unfortunately rejected by CERN Commettee by some reasons ( you can check prof. John Ellis and prof. Antonio Zichichi with whom we discussed some physical and experimental problems); 2) we can give you the considerable list of the peoples who were involved in discussions and projects at that time 1999-2005 in CERN, in Italy Gran-Sasso, Padova INFN, in Lion University , in Siegen University, on some Conferences, in MINOS, in OPERA collaboration where during these years we presented many talks and explanations why neutrino could be faster than light and how to do such experiments. By our opinion OPERA was not completely ready to do these experiments in our way. The experimentators of MINOS after our communications with us agreed to check the neutrino velocity but they directly said that to change something in detectors they are not ready. 3) by our opinion the physical questions in your site are also explained not correctly since the authors did not understand correctly the history of creation of the Special Theory of Relativity and appearence of the main its paradox touching the principle of the light velocity maximality. The main point that our ideas can help us to understand the existence of the 3- neutrino families from geometrical point of view, and also, they are related with some other fundamental excperimental problems like the proton/electron non-stability?!
I am not sure what the above is about. If it is about the Wikipedia article Faster-than-light neutrino anomaly, then it would be better to discuss it on that article's talk page. Maproom (talk) 08:57, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
I think the OP needs to be directed to WP:FRINGE. SpinningSpark 11:04, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

History of Islam[edit]

When I looked up history of islam , I found nothing but incorrect information and bias. There are more Muslims in the world that Christians.All Muslims are not terrorists. You have history of Christianity but no history of lslam. Not right at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB90:1702:AC72:AC6A:704D:2E5A:7F62 (talk) 08:51, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Is this about the article History of Islam? Maproom (talk) 09:02, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
When I read your comment I found nothing but incorrect information and bias. The article does not mention "terrorists" anywhere. Are you suggesting that "all Muslims are not terrorists" should be inserted in the article? Thus implying that some Muslims are terrorists? The article does not claim there are more Christians than Muslims. It gives some figures for historical percentages, I think to demonstrate the early rapid growth of Islam, but it says nothing about modern numbers. Please try reading before writing, preferably with thinking inserted as an intermediate step. SpinningSpark 10:45, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Spinningspark, I may have misled you here, by adding the title "History of Islam" to 2607's complaint, which he had posted at the bottom of the paragraph about neutrinos, so that it appeared confusingly between the neutrinos paragraph and its footnotes. He says that he "looked up history of islam", but not where he looked it up nor what he found there. In fact it seems rather unlikely that he was complaining about Wikipedia's History of Islam article. Maproom (talk) 11:23, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

High traffic articles[edit]

Where can I find the list of Wikipedia articles with very high traffic?--Skr15081997 (talk) 11:26, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

User:West.andrew.g/Popular pages is a list, and Wikipedia:Top 25 Report is a shorter list but with pictures and explanations. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 11:36, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

User name[edit]

Choose now a username and a password for the user account. Memorize them, you will use them the next time you will enter to this site — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:42, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

206.67, who are you replying to? Are you trying to ask a question of your own? SpinningSpark 13:20, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Quotations from sources[edit]

Where in the WP Help pages will I find detailed guidance on how and how not to quote from sources in the text of an article? I ask since when copy-editing I often come across quotations in text with quote marks around them that are (a) not quotations that the source has provided, but (b) quotations of the source's actual words. --P123ct1 (talk) 12:23, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

If you haven't found it already, WP:QUOTE is the main guideline on using quotations in articles - it may be of some help. There's also a section of the Manual of Style that deals specifically with quotations, if you want to know how the formatting should be done. Any help? Yunshui  12:27, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
I had seen those guidelines and they are very good on how to use quotations and style, but they don't answer my basic question: can short passages or phrases from newspaper articles, websites, etc be taken wholesale into a Wiki article's text and be given quote marks? I thought that was not permitted and that only an actual quotation within a source - newspaper, website or whatever - could be treated as a quotation with quote marks when moved to a Wiki article. --P123ct1 (talk) 14:20, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Oh, I see. No, you can quote directly from a source, as long as the usual rules on non-free content are abided by. From WP:QUOTE: "quoting a brief excerpt from an original source can sometimes explain things better and less controversially than trying to explain them in one's own words". Yunshui  14:25, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. Though always with the proviso that the quote is attributed in the text, of course, not just in the footnote. When I asked the question I was thinking more of times when the quotes are very short and are not attributed in this way, which I have often seen. --P123ct1 (talk) 15:09, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


i have for example written an article which i would like to submit to wikipedia, how do i do it?/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodgers mburu (talkcontribs) 13:13, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

The easiest way is to visit the Articles for Creation page and follow the instructions there.  Philg88 talk 13:44, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Note however that I have suggested the page in question for speedy deletion as an attack page about a possibly living person. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:51, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Upload an image[edit]


I have just created an account and want to upload an image to the new page I am creating. Its a company logo image. What is the best way to upload this file?

This is the page I am creating-


Simon Simonallan2014 (talk) 14:06, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

You'll find a number of useful links on Wikipedia:Images telling you how to upload & how to use images. You need to be aware, however, that a company logo will normally not have a free licence, and that the non-free content criteria will normally allow you to use such an image on a relevant published article, but not on a draft, such as in your user sandbox. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:13, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Is some category like "Category:Works by protagonists" in English Wikipedia?[edit]

Hello! Japanese Wikipedia have a category "Works by (its featuring) protagonists" (ja:Category:主人公別作品, sub-categories are like: "Works featuring musician protagonist", "Works featuring prince protagonist"), and just another two East-Asian language wiki have this categoty by interwiki. Is English Wikipedia a smilar category? Thanks.--CAS222222221 (talk) 14:07, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

There are things like Category:Fictional doctors-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:30, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Many categories of the kind you are looking for can be found amongst the subcategories of Category:Fictional characters such as Category:Fictional characters by occupation. SpinningSpark 16:47, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Labor Day[edit]

U.S. President error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:31, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:34, 1 September 2014 (UTC)



You would be more likely to get help if you avoided typing entirely in upper case. This is regarded by many as "shouting".
Anyway – the problem is not with "adding references to your article", it is with finding the references to add. They will need to be from reliable independent sources. If you are familiar with the subject, you can do this at least as well as anyone else. Maproom (talk) 12:43, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Probably this article, if it helps. Britmax (talk) 12:48, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Removing the bar 'this article cites no references' after having added references[edit]


I added refs to the article 'Tintinnid' in hopes that the tag box 'Attention- article cites no refs' would dissapear but the the box is still there. What to do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:27, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

You appear to be slightly misunderstanding what we mean by references.
You have added a bibliography at the bottom of the article, but you have not added any inline citations, supporting any of the statements made in the article whatsoever. Please see When to cite for when citations should be added and Referencing for beginners for guidance on how to do this. - Arjayay (talk) 18:04, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
@Arjayay: The article uses author-date/parenthetical references and now appears to be well referenced.
@ The cleanup tag in question is added/removed manually. Simply edit the article and remove {{Unreferenced stub}} at the beginning. --  Gadget850 talk 18:19, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia in other languages[edit]

Is there a way to see if another language of Wikipedia has a certain article? And, if so, is there a way to "migrate" that article over to this English language Wikipedia? In particular, I am seeking an article about Blessed Bronislava. I am guessing that there might be an article about her in the Polish Wikipedia. For further information about my request, see here: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities#Bl. Bronislava. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:05, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Here you are. Maproom (talk) 19:58, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I don't understand Polish at all. Is there a way to "migrate" that article over to this English language Wikipedia? Is there a way to translate that article into English? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:00, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
We don't usually just migrate articles directly from one Wikipedia language to another, not least because notability and referencing and formatting requirements differ so widely. Certainly it doesn't give any special status to the imported article. Instead, it might be best to ask for help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Poland. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:06, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. In the interim, someone had created a new article here in the English Wikipedia. Here is it: Bronislava of Poland. Is there some way to translate the Polish Wikipedia article, in order to improve the English article? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:08, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
You need a translator. Like he said, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Poland is a good place to ask for one. Maproom (talk) 21:51, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
OK, I will visit that page. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:54, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, all. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:54, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Unicode, oh Unicode[edit]

Please see en:Help talk:Special characters#Confusing and unhelpful. -84user (talk) 18:52, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia language versions as list of interwiki links[edit]

Before wikidata arrived we could easily obtain the list of wikipedia articles in other languages, for various purposes such as adding to Commons pages. How can this be done now? For example, I want to add interwiki links to . I click on this "edit links" link on the left hand side and my eyes just glaze over. That is not what I expect from a link named "edit links". Thanks and apologies if I sound frustrated. -84user (talk) 20:54, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

That link takes you to a bunch of fun images. I clicked on one at random, and read "Horizontal male with stroke". Yes, that's how I feel. Maproom (talk) 21:59, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
For the record, I've created a new Wikidata item for the category, Q17781917. I'm not sure if there are equivalents on other Wikipedias. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 22:05, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
WikiData is apparently not supposed to link pages and categories yet (although this may change very soon). The solution would be to create a gallery page on Commons and link that in WikiData instead. Green Giant (talk) 22:56, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Ok, a gallery is a good idea; I have just created commons:Alchemical symbols. Otherwise, thank you for creating the wikidata page, but it is quite beyond me how it helps me. I see links labeled edit and add but it might as well all be Egyptian hieroglyphics. How does one even create a wikidata page? Is there a source code view as there is for Commons and wikipedia?

For a start, how would an editor make the Commons gallery page commons:Alchemical symbols link to Alchemical symbols? How to link the Commons category page commons:Category:Alchemical symbols to Alchemical symbols?

So far I managed to add the gallery page to the wikidata item as "Pages on other sites linked to this item". That magically caused wikipedia interwiki links to appear at .

However that was after going down some dead-ends:

First I created a wikidata item Q17782736 and tried but failed to add a link to the Spanish pageímbolo_alquímico - at first it reported it could not find the page and then it complained: "The link eswiki:Símbolo alquímico is already used by item Q2451472. You may remove it from Q2451472 if it does not belong there or merge the items if they are about the exact same topic."

That led me to the supposedly correct wikidata item, so at least the error message was helpful.

Surely this stuff must be simpler to do? -84user (talk) 01:36, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

To 84user: (Q17782736 is redundant, so I've made a request to delete the item you created.) Yes, I agree that it's confusing at first. In the off-chance that you're interested in contributing to Wikidata, there are some tours you can take. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 06:08, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Making YouTube videos commons-compatible[edit]


Is it possible to release a YouTube video for commons-compatibility?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:03, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, the default license is the YouTube license, but it is quite easy to change the license to one of the acceptable CC licenses.--S Philbrick(Talk) 23:44, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
To TonyTheTiger: YouTube only allows you to change the license to CC-BY 3.0. While this is a free license and compatible with Wikipedia's terms, you will need to make sure that there is no CC-BY-SA content in the video. If there is, you cannot use YouTube's CC option; instead, you will have to release under an appropriate CC-BY-SA license by noting it in the description. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 00:00, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Sphilbrick and Anon126, once I have uploaded the video, can I still change the license. I don't see how to do it.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:00, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
@TonyTheTiger: Yes, you can still change the license. You'll want to edit the specific video from your account, select "Info and Settings" in the top row menu, and then look for "Advanced Settings" in a bottom row menu just below the video itself. There should be a setting called "License and rights ownership", where you can select the Creative Commons (CC-BY 3.0) license. I, JethroBT drop me a line 02:41, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:04, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

September 2[edit]

Assistance with article[edit]

Hi, I need help with a deleted article. What do I need to do to get the article approved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhedai19 (talkcontribs) 05:01, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Jhedai19. I assume you're referring to Deo's Closet? I suggest that you go to requests for undeletion, where you can ask for the article to be userfied, that is, moved outside the "main" article space.
After you do that, I suggest that you work on it and then submit it for review (add the code {{subst:submit}} to the top when you're ready). Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 05:21, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Policy/warnings on swearing[edit]

Is there a warning template for users who swear at you? Someone swore at me for proposing his article for speedy deletion (User talk:JoeKnuckley), and while I'm not traumatized by this, it seems like there aren't many resources regarding what to do when dealing with minor misconduct. Upjav (talk) 05:39, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

{{uw-npa1}} - it doesn't really address the swearing but the nature of the message. Hack (talk) 05:53, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Hack. Looks like that's appropriate. Upjav (talk) 06:05, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

skitzo (which is me) got erased?[edit]

hello to whom it may comcern

please revive this page


i am a living, breathing producer, and all descriptions about this page is true

any questions please hit me up at <email redacted>

thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:34, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

See the deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Skitzo. Basically they can't find reliable sources to show that you are important enough for an encyclopedia article. The threshold for inclusion is not just truth but also notability. —teb728 t c 08:00, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
See the notability guidelines at: WP:BIO.--ukexpat (talk) 12:19, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Why was my edit removed, though I provided proper sources?[edit]

I'm a new user and was very delighted to know that I too can contribute to Wikipedia. Upon my first edit itself, my addition was removed and I got a message saying, " appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder..." I thought it was caused because I had not provided the source. So I edited it again by providing proper sources. But then I received another message which said, "There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you."

What does this mean? Is there anything I'm unaware of? Please help me regarding this issue, as I'm confused. I want to sure if I'm abiding by your rules. I'll be very grateful to contribute to Wikipedia for the welfare of all. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samuel Wesley (talkcontribs) 08:53, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

As for the copyright complaint, it has to do with this edit and possibly more where you directly copied right from the source. Selected quotes can be used but they should in quotation marks. Otherwise, the bulk of an article should be written in your own words with the references used as verification of what you've written.
As for the ANI notice, the discussion is at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Copyright violations by Samuel Wesley. In my opinion, the other editor could have waited longer for you to reply to the copyright issue concerns that were pointed out to you before taking it to the noticeboard. But like I say, that's my opinion. And they could have helped you out, as the new editor that you are, by directing you to the specific discussion thread instead of directing you to the page with you having to figure out what it's all about. Dismas|(talk) 09:35, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
(after edit conflict) You were reverted because you have copied material without permission, not because it was not referenced. See Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. You were reported to the Administrators notice board because you repeatedly reinserted the material without discussion. Administrators have the power to block you from editing, and will do if they believe you are going to continue with the same actions. I recommend that you follow the link to that discussion on your talk page and explain that you are not going to continue. Besisdes that issue, I think the material you inserted should be removed anyway. It is not from a scholarly source, and is riddled with neutrality isssues by expressing views in Wikipedia's voice rather than simply presenting encyclopaedic facts. SpinningSpark 09:43, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Cure Parkinson's Trust[edit]

I have included what I had hoped was a correct citation to a medical journal - I used the Cite reference to 'journal' and entered all relevant details. The small text appears by the side of the report referred to in the text as the correct medical journal name but when clicked does not redirect the user to the said journal - please can you tell me what i am doing wrong?

Also, I have included special characters for URL's in my text but these appear in the saved article as the full URL - is there a way of this appearing as a smaller icon in the text - again what am I doing wrong here please :( BaileyBoo (talk) 12:32, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

I made this change - [1] to your draft. Is this what you were looking for? Secondly, you should put the link to the external websites in a separate section at the bottom of the article, see WP:EL for more information. CaptRik (talk) 12:42, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
I have done some courtesy clean up per the manual of style.--ukexpat (talk) 13:16, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
BaileyBoo, I see in your draft you've un-done some of UKexpat's manual of style changes and put links to external sites in the main text of the article. Please note that this is not allowed, those links should be specific citations of content, a single link in an external links section, or not in the article at all. I would recommend addressing this when possible before submitting. Regards, CaptRik (talk) 13:48, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Profile picture[edit]

How do I post a profile picture? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bennyboyjamin (talkcontribs) 13:24, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't facebook, so you don't need to post a profile picture. If it's social networking you're after, I'm afraid you'll be disappointed here. However, you can add an image to your userpage by following the tutorials at Wikipedia:Images. You need to upload an image to Commons, and then embed it on your own userpage. Yunshui  13:38, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
If you are talking about an image to use in an article, there are a number of useful links at Wikipedia:Images. In particular you need to be careful to specify the copyright status of the image (which you did not do when you uploaded File:DannyW.jpeg). --David Biddulph (talk) 13:47, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Articles in several languages missing in English Wikipedia[edit]

Is there any tool or page by which I can get the list of topics having pages in several other Wikipedias but not in English.--Skr15081997 (talk) 13:43, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Try reading Wikipedia:Translation (and in particular Wikipedia:Translation#Articles needing translation) and Category:Articles needing translation from foreign-language Wikipedias. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:56, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

No Devotion Band[edit]


Your page on the band No Devotion is incorrect. They are not a Welsh based band. There are 4 Welshmen (Lee Gaze, Stu Richardson, Jamie Oliver & Mike Lewis) 1 Englishman Luke Johnson who is from Ridditch, Birmingham - England & Geoff Rickly who is from New Brunswick, NJ - USA.

Currently half of them live in Los Angeles, CA (Luke Johnson, Jamie Oliver & Mike Lewis) Stu Richardson lives in Florida, Geoff Rickly lives in New York City, NY & Lee Gaze lives in London, England.

I spoke with Lee about this via twitter. You can view the conversation at this twitter link He feels the band is more international but if a simpler label is needed for the origin of the band then please mark it as British American as it covers all six of the band members.

Thank you, Alicia Founder - @NoDevotionFans — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:33, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

I have removed "Welsh-based" from the article, as the references do not support this. Twitter is not regarded as a reliable source, so I have not added anything in its place. --ColinFine (talk) 22:56, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done

Captcha Error[edit]


I am asked to enter the words below (captcha) before publishing my article. The problem is that I cannot visualize the captcha and therefore I will lose the whole article because I can't submit the captcha. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thepinkdame (talkcontribs) 19:08, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

You can do copy/paste into any text editor like notepad and save the wikitext as a file. Ruslik_Zero 19:39, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
I'm guessing you get a captcha because there are external links. Try removing the colon from "http:" to disable the links and post again here so somebody else can make them link. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:49, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Recommend Article Creation[edit]

Is there a place on Wikipedia where a user can recommend that an article be created? The reason I'm asking is that I don't have the knowledge (or time) to do it myself, but there are some people/topics that should have an article on Wikipedia who currently do not. Emivam (talk) 20:42, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requested articles. SpinningSpark 21:29, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Image use[edit]

I know that this is spelled out clearly somewhere on Wikipedia, but I've been looking around for a while and can't seem to find the exact page. Could someone explain to me which licenses are acceptable for a photograph to be released under, in order for them to be uploaded to the Commons. I'm pretty sure that the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License is the ideal one, but are others acceptable? Thanks. --Jpcase (talk) 21:56, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

@Jpcase: Hey Jpcase. Please see Commons:Licensing#Acceptable licenses. There's also Commons:Choosing a license and Commons:Copyright tags. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:23, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Fuhghettaboutit. I found an image on Flickr that I want to use, but it has been released under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic license. So I couldn't use it unless I could get the photographer to release it under the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License, right? --Jpcase (talk) 22:47, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
That's not the only possibility, Jpcase, but it does have to be one that allows commercial use. --ColinFine (talk) 22:58, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Yes, as Colin says, that or under another compatible license but it can't be non-commercial (you can eliminate any license with the letters "NC" in it). Many free images with a compatible license at Flickr are under CC BY-SA 2.0. You can use any of CC-By-SA 1.0, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0 CC-By 2.0, 2.5, 3.0 and CC-By-US 3.0 and of course, PD (public domain which under creative commons is CC0 1.0 Universal)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:12, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks a lot Fuhghettaboutit and ColinFine! This is starting to make a little more sense to me. I have a few more questions though:
  • In "CC BY-SA" for example, the "CC" stands for "Creative Commons", right? And the "SA" stands for "ShareAlike"? What does the "BY" stand for though? All of the Creative Commons licenses have it in their abbreviated names, but none of them seems to have words that start with "B" or "Y" in their formal names.
  • What is "CC-By-US"? I don't see it listed on this page [2]
  • The GNU Free Documentation License; GNU General Public License; and Free Art License/Licence Art Libre would all be acceptable too, right? Are there multiple versions of these licenses that I should be aware of? --Jpcase (talk) 23:41, 2 September 2014 (UTC)