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May 19[edit]

contributing photographs to wikipedia.[edit]

Hello: I am brand new here and finding my way around. I have several photographs that my father took (he was a photographer both free lance and employed by union pacifi) late 40's to early 80's I would like to contribute to your information pages on Sun Valley Idaho and surrounding area. I also have some great shots (I think) he took in different states in the North West back in the day. Do I need to fill out a form to donate pictures? I have scanned the negatives and have digital copies in a 72 dpi jpeg format. Also I have a collection of old press photographs (ACME) that I have scanned can I donate those images to wikipedia? They have already been "published" so I am not sure what the rules are. some other photographs/post cards that I have where taken before 1923 scenic shots..postcards etc. But I have no idea about copy right issues with images that old.

Let me know,

Thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocketz95001 (talkcontribs) 03:52, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

@Rocketz95001: Hi, thanks for your question. Sorry for having to ask this, but is your father still alive? Copyright law can be very complex and that makes a difference for determining if the images can be used on Wikipedia. --Nick⁠—⁠Contact/Contribs 05:28, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi Nick..yes my dad is still alive but he has dementia and I am his POA .I have his signed consent form to use and share is pictures as I see fit. His wish was/is to "share" them and not "sell" them. That letter was signed in the 90's. So I have have copyright and had submitted some of the digitalized copies to the local library but they lost them! Anyway I would much rather have them on wiki.. do you know about the press photographs or post cards? Those have already been published.

Thanks for getting back to me so fast :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocketz95001 (talkcontribs) 06:13, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

@Rocketz95001: Your dad's images should be releasable by him (via you) under a free license of your choice (either fully into the public domain, or under a Creative Commons and/or GNU license). This certainly applies to his photos taken as a freelance photographer. You should upload these images over on Commons, not locally here on Wikipedia. Commons is a collection of freely licensed images for use on any Wikimedia project, including the English Wikipedia. I have to point out that by releasing them under a Wikipedia-acceptable free license, you will be allowing the images to be reused off-Wikipedia as well, including by people for their own commercial interests if they want. You can put some conditions on image reuse by using a Creative Commons license, but you cannot restrict them from being used commercially. See commons:COM:Welcome.
As for the press photos and postcards, if you can prove they were published (not simply created) before 1923, they should be in the public domains in the US. They can also be uploaded on Commons if that's the case. If they were published after 1923, it gets a little more tricky and involves looking up whether copyright was claimed and/or renewed. See commons:Commons:Licensing#Material in the public domain. --Nick⁠—⁠Contact/Contribs 06:33, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi Nick …me again. I am really lame at this new wiki (t0 me) interface:) I am used to Facebook, smugmug and email. anyhow . I think the GNU License is probably the way to go How did it get to be so complicated?. There are only a couple of dad's images that he took as a freelance photographer that have been "released into the public domain" I do have a smugmag account and have been getting dad's pictures to the families that are in them by email. I can upload there and share them out to the wiki team folks. On the smugmug site i can label the images & get the location of the shot listed under captions and who is that picture. Most of them are landscapes so I don't need to worry about that. Does wiki do smugmug? or dropbox?.. no idea. I don't have a flickr account. I would like to do a photo credit to him (dad) as the photographer which I have already done in photoshop in the web 72 dpi images does that work in wiki ? Again I have no idea.. :) it would be really cool to have dad's pictures on wiki I would love that and so would he. Thanks for helping me =^..^= Thanks. Mw :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:773A:AB50:6593:A84D:1BDC:1DCC (talk) 08:36, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

You would want to upload them directly to Commons using this link. We can't link to files in dropbox or uploaded on other websites. There is a place in the form where you can put a description, and credit him as the photographer there. Does that answer your question? ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 19:46, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Public domain images[edit]

Firstly, I want to make sure the images are in the public domain. The images in question are here. The pictures were published in the late 19th century and the photographer died in 1922. I also need help uploading them to Wikimedia Commons. I've uploaded images from Flickr before, but this is sufficiently different that I'm not sure I'd upload/tag them correctly. Thanks for the help. Xochiztli (talk) 06:48, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Reading up on US copyright law, the pictures are clearly in the public domain. I've gone ahead and upload one, but I would appreciate it if someone made sure everything looked alright. The picture. Xochiztli (talk) 14:25, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Looks fine to me. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 19:50, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

user name[edit]

I am asking this question on behalf of an organization named fpi.
i tried to create a user page for this philanthropic organization. But i got a message from wiki web when i choose a username.
i chose fpi as its user name, but i got a reply from wiki like this user name is similar to fp1 .(it(fp1) is different than my username(fpi))
So i am humbly asking you this, how can i choose this user name (fpi) for the organization of humanity.
I hope that someone will give me an answer very soon. Thank you

— Preceding unsigned comment added by FPI-86 (talk) 19 May 2015 (UTC)

You cannot have such a name, as this would contravene Wikipedia:Username policy which does not allow usernames which "represent the name of a company, group, institution or product" which you clearly are trying to do - Arjayay (talk) 10:15, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Hello, FPI-86. What Arjayay says is right, but I'd like to expand on it. If you are wanting to create an account on behalf of an organisation, you are almost certainly intending to edit Wikipedia on behalf of the organisation. Please don't. The only interest that an organisation can legitimately have in a Wikipedia article is getting false information removed (and not even necessarily that, if the information comes from a reliable source). People in an organisation are welcome to edit Wikipedia as individuals, and can certainly create accounts as individuals; but in editing they should remember that they are editing for Wikipedia, not for the organisation. If they edit articles connected with the organisation, they need to keep it neutral and based on independent sources, and they need to remember that neither they nor the organisation owns any articles. Please read WP:CORP and WP:COI. --ColinFine (talk) 17:04, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Edmund Minahan and Cotton Minahan[edit]


I don't speak English very well. Edmund Minahan and Cotton Minahan are/is the same person. How do only one article ?

GabrieL (talk) 11:53, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

A merge is required.--ukexpat (talk) 12:25, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Please, An Englisk spoken can do the procedure for me. The explanation in English is too complex for me. The articles in German are already same article. GabrieL (talk) 15:35, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Fixed I've performed the merge. The article is now at Cotton Minahan, Edmund Minahan is a redirect to this page. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:44, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Wikidata also fixed. Cotton Minahan now linked to the Edmund Minahan on other wikis.Naraht (talk) 19:11, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Wallingford, Connecticut[edit]

Issue with the content of the page:

The article refers to Allnex, as the highest volume polluter in the area, but without citing information to substantiate this claim. It also links Allnex to the former owners Cytec. Allnex has not been part of Cytec since April 2013. [1] It is now an independent company and should no longer be associated with Cytec. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:56, 19 May 2015 (UTC)


Fixed - I have removed the reference to Allnex as completely unsourced.--ukexpat (talk) 13:27, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Updating page on Genpact[edit]


I would like to request an update to the opening paragraph on the page covering Genpact.

Location: Genpact

The newly proposed content can be found at the top of the Genpact Talk page at: Talk:Genpact

The content is also below. I have several citations to add, when it's published.

Genpact is a multinational business process outsourcing and information technology services company, with executives headquartered in New York City, NY. As of 2015, the company operates through the following segments: Automotive, Banking and Financial Services, Capital Markets, Chemicals, Consumer Goods, Healthcare, High-Tech, Hospitality, Industrial Manufacturing, Insurance, Life Sciences, Media and Entertainment, Retail, Telecommunications, Transportation, and Logistics.

In 2014, Genpact reported net revenues of US$2.28 billion with 68,000+ employees in 25 countries. Genpact’s clients include one-fourth of the Fortune Global 500 and of those, 10 are in the top 25.

Genpact was established in 1997 as a business unit within General Electric (GE) to transform GE Capital’s back-office services operations into one of the first large-scale captive companies in the world, GE Capital International Services (GECIS). In January 2005, Genpact became an independent company to provide Lean Six Sigma process expertise to clients beyond GE. In August 2007, it became a publicly traded company on the New York Stock Exchange, under the symbol G.

N. V. Tyagarajan, president and CEO of Genpact, has led the company since his appointment in June 2011.

I would greatly appreciate your assistance. Wzt5zb (talk) 16:35, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Wzt5zb, Your second suggested paragraph in particular sounds rather promotional. In any case, when making such a request, please provide cites to reliable independent sources before any edit is made, so that the editor can evaluate the sources and see if they support the proposed text. Also please indicate exactly what test you want replaced, and whether the existing citations are now obsolete and why. Finally, it is best to add new requests at the bottom of the article talk page. Thank you. DES (talk) 17:03, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

CSD and PROD logs[edit]

I'm trying to find my CSD and PROD logs (or if I even have them). I've never used Twinkle, which is the only means I'm finding of tracking that, and even then I'm not seeing how to get Twinkle to load pre-Twinkle CSDs and PRODs into the logs.

(Can/How would) I find my CSD/PROD logs without Twinkle? If that's not possible, is it possible to get Twinkle to load old CSDs and PRODs into a new log? Ian.thomson (talk) 20:03, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Twinkle creates CSD and Prod logs as you tag pages with Twinkle. If you tagged pages without using Twinkle, I do not believe there is any way to easily create any logs, Twinkle will not do it. If you notified the creator each time you added a CSD or Prod Tag then you can go back through your contributions, find all of the notifications and manually create the logs. -- GB fan 20:14, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Ew... Well, thanks. IIRC, I usually did notify them of the tag, but would sometimes do so thought modified warnings rather than the regular tag. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:29, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Article translation[edit]

Hi All, what should I do to have this same page in the Wikipedia English Version? Thanks. Reinaldo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reinaldopamponet (talkcontribs) 21:01, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi Reinaldopamponet see WP:Translation for guidance on how to translate an article to English from another Wikipedia. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:35, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Please create an article on New Year Lake, Nevada.[edit]

I am not so very computer literate and I'm afraid that trying to figure out how to request an article to be created is very confusing. I'm not even sure that I'm in the right place. But I'm trying to find information on New Year Lake in north, west Nevada. I can not find any information at all which is very strange for a lake that size especially in the driest state in the Union. Very mysterious.

Thank you for your time! Robin Samala — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:42, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

You can go to WP:Requested Articles and make an entry, but it is very backlogged. You might do better by going to WP:WikiProject Nevada and ask for help. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:54, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

May 20[edit]

On the page for Shimmer Women Athletes, the link for Wikimedia is not in a box like it usually is on other pages, including pages for other wrestling promotions. I can't figure this out.

If I just preview the External Links section, it *does* show the box, so I think something isn't closed above. I'll see what I can figure out.Naraht (talk) 04:04, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
I changed the column defining templates to Template:Div col and Template:Div col end and that took care of it. I *think* the error may have been that some of the Colend templates were capital C and others were lower case c. The Div Col template setup is now preferred.Naraht (talk) 04:11, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Can't link to commons files[edit]


I can't link to


whereas it works for


Is there someone who understand this problem? Ftiercel (talk) 04:25, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

My first thought was that you'd made a typo, but Commons:File:Wolflund - Watching Over Me (feat. Melissa Pixel).ogg and Commons:File:Njuta - Tiny Voices.ogg both go to the correct files, so I don't know what the difference is. Nyttend (talk) 04:49, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
@Ftiercel: This has been logged as a high-priority bug: phab:T99761. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:29, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Related thread at WP:VPTMandruss  06:35, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
OK. Ftiercel (talk) 05:29, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Persistent Wikipedia link[edit]

If I remember rightly, there's some way to present a link to a Wikipedia page (besides simply giving the full URL) so that, when the page is mirrored, it remains a link to Wikipedia. How does one do this? The context is the Authority control article. This page discusses the different names for Princess Diana that are combined in various authority files for her, and the section concludes with Wikipedia prefers the term "Diana, Princess of Wales", but at the bottom of Wikipedia's page about her, there are links to various international cataloguing efforts for reference purposes. Of course we ought to include a link to the Diana, Princess of Wales article, but in such a way that it remains a Wikipedia link: when the page gets mirrored on, we want "Wikipedia's page about her" to go to,_Princess_of_Wales instead of to the page about her. I've done a temporary fix by doing an EL-style link ([,_Princess_of_Wales Wikipedia's page about her]), but I think I've seen another method that works better. Nyttend (talk) 04:47, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

@Nyttend: The {{Srlink}} template can be used for this. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:25, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Committee of the Regions[edit]

Dear all: as suggested by the Wikipedia volunteer here in Brussels, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov, we are writing to ask for your help with the account "CommitteeOftheRegions", which was blocked by one of the Wikipedia users. The reason why we had created this account was that we wanted to change the title of our page (in all languages) from "Committee of the Regions" into "European Committee of the Regions" which is the new name. Please could you help us with that? Thank you very much in advance - the Press team of the Committee of the Regions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:12, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

The reason why CommitteeoftheRegions (talk · contribs) was blocked is that the username gives the impression that it represents an organization. Only individuals can have accounts on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TEB728 (talkcontribs) 08:27, 20 May 2015‎ (UTC)
The article has already been moved to European Committee of the Regions, as you request. Maproom (talk) 08:29, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
The name of an organization is not an acceptable username per WP:ORGNAME. It would be both promotion, and likely imply shared use for editing. The rest of that page describes what usernames are acceptable. Basically have each individual editing create an account. Also consider that there is likely a conflict of interest here, you should avoid all but the most non-controversial changes to that article, rather post edit suggestions on the talk page for the article. In any event, Committee of the Regions was moved to European Committee of the Regions a month ago. Rwessel (talk) 08:30, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
And I suggest that it will reduce problems in the future, for you and everybody else, if you remove the phrase "our article" from your vocabulary. Substituting "Wikipedia's article about us" is likely to be helpful. --ColinFine (talk) 17:22, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Articles for deletion[edit]

How can add to a discussion? When I go to the entry page for an article that's up for deletion I don't see a place to add my input.

Thanks! Kohpatmay (talk) 09:26, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

@Kohpatmay: If you want to contribute to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paramount California University for example, go to that page, click the "edit" link, add your signed comment at the bottom, and click the "Save" button. —teb728 t c 09:47, 20 May 2015 (UTC)


Where can i find an article on lady bugs — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:49, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

If you search ladybug, the article is at Coccinellidae. Bear in mind that ladybug and ladybird are the same thing- ladybird is the British term, which is used in most of the article. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:53, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

ALL IN (magazine) not approved to publish... WHY?[edit]

I have attempted to publish a page for ALL IN Magazine on multiple occasions but continued to get a declined submission. I want to know why this continues to happen and what we/I need to do to get the page approved and published. Thank you

LINK to the draft: Draft:ALL IN (magazine) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JTLeclair10 (talkcontribs) 16:07, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

The notice in the pink box at the top of the draft should explain why - we need references that show significant coverage in reliable sources to establish notability. The user who reviewed and declined the draft presumably thought that the references you have cited were not sufficient.--ukexpat (talk) 16:18, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Also, saying "our Wikipedia page" implies you work for the company, in which case I strongly advise reading WP:COI. Also, you don't own a Wikipedia page, see WP:OWN. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:21, 20 May 2015 (UTC)


@JTLeclair10: The reason your draft has been declined is because the article doesn't show that the magazine is notable. A notable thing is defined as something that has "gained sufficiently significant attention by the world at large". You show a thing (like your magazine) is notable by showing that it has "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Currently your article cites 6 sources.
  1. The first is a blog entry, which is not considered a reliable source. That blog entry consists of someone saying their old business partner has founded a magazine; that's not significant coverage even if the blog were considered a reliable source.
  2. The second is a website for College Poker Tour. This is not about the magazine at all.
  3. The third is about College Poker Tour and doesn't even mention All In magazine.
  4. 5, and 6 are all from the magazine or its website itself and thus are not independent sources.
You need to show that the magazine has received significant coverage in independent sources; not press releases, not advertisements, but coverage. Make sense? ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 16:31, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
P.S.: Take a look at some of the articles in Category:FA-Class magazine articles to see what an excellent article about a magazine should look like. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 16:58, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Two more points to add to what ONUnicorn has said, JTLeclair10. One is that promotion of any form is forbidden on Wikipedia. When people come to write about their own company/band/magazine they are often really here to promote it. Wikipedia is only interested in a subject if other people, unconnected with it, have already noticed it enough to write about it. Secondly, it is possible that nobody has yet done so: that such independent, reliable sources do not at present exist. (I'm not saying whether they do or don't: I haven't looked.) If they don't exist, then it is at present impossible to write an acceptable article on the subject. --ColinFine (talk) 17:29, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

I have made several edits, and am wondering if the article now appears as though it would be acceptable? Having been declined twice already, I do not want to repost if the changes I made are not sufficient enough. here is the link again:Draft:ALL IN (magazine)

@JTLeclair10: Source 11, "Scottsdale media company gambles on Super Bowl party". Phoenix Business Journal. 26 January 2015. Retrieved 21 May 2015. , is a good source. You need more sources like that. Also, I posted a message on the article's talk page with a good source from an earlier version of the article, "Poker Media Content of the Year Poker Media Content of the Year". American Poker Awards. Retrieved 8 April 2015. . You need to work that source back in. You need to use more sources like those. Also, there's at least one point in the article where the word "our" is used - that's a big no-no. As several other people have pointed out, you should take a look at the guideline on conflicts of interest. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 14:23, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
@JTLeclair10:: I tried to help move the draft towards an acceptable state, by removing the long list of cover subjects. I see you have put them all back. Well, good luck. Maproom (talk) 18:31, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

^^ I'm Sorry, I was unaware that you made that edit and thought I had accidentally removed it when I was editing. I re-removed it and hope it helps. Thank you all for your help and advice, I really appreciate it — Preceding unsigned comment added by JTLeclair10 (talkcontribs) 18:38, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input[edit]

What is wrong with this?

{{refn|"L = time rate of change of momentum of airflow in the downward direction"<ref name="Anderson_Flight_5.19" />}}

It was recently changed by a bot from #tag:ref to refn and it appeared correctly before the change. I'm not sure why the error has now appeared. Burninthruthesky (talk) 17:20, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Burninthruthesky. What seems to have happened is that Gadget850 has changed the unusual syntax {{#tag:ref}} (which I had never heard of and had to look up) to {{refn}}, without realising that the reason for using #tag: is to get round nested HTML style tags (in this case <ref>. But {{refn}} explicitly doesn't support these. I think you can simply undo the change, but I hope that my mentioning Gadget850 will bring them into the discussion. I had it backwards. --ColinFine (talk) 17:54, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
{{refn}} use #tag:ref internally, so this should have worked. I reverted for now until I can sort this. -- Gadget850 talk 17:57, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
@Burninthruthesky and Gadget850: Since the text of this reference contains an equals sign, the coding needs to be
{{refn|1="L = time rate of change of momentum of airflow in the downward direction"<ref name="Anderson_Flight_5.19" />}}
-- John of Reading (talk) 18:17, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
I was just figuring that out. Thanks. -- Gadget850 talk 18:32, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
My apologies for incorrectly assuming this was done by a bot. Thanks for your help. Burninthruthesky (talk) 20:58, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

submit new information[edit]

How do I submit some information on my 30+ year musical career? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:51, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

You don't. If you are a genuinely notable musician, then somebody without your obvious conflict of interest will write an article about you. At that point, you can identify yourself, and then offer further information (only if published in reliable sources on the talk page of the article, for other editors to examine. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:57, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Employee numbers[edit]

Dear Wikipedia Support Team,

I am interested in historical data at the quarterly level on the number of employees for a list of US firms. It occurred to me that most of these firms have Wiki webpages which contain the current number of employees (e.g. Google). I am wondering whether I can follow the history of changes of this particular piece of information on a firm’s Wiki webpage to obtain a time series at the quarterly level. I tried using Wikiblame but I was not able to track any changes in the number of employees for Google.

Would you please let me know whether this strategy can actually be implemented and work or suggest alternative ways for obtaining these data? Any insights would be greatly appreciated!

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

With kind regards,

Katrina Kevtimova (talk) 20:03, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Kevtimova, There really isn't any "Wikipedia Support Team". What there is are various volunteers, more ore less experienced, who try to help others here out of the goodness of their hearts. None of us is paid to respond to questions here.
It might, in theory, be possible to devise an automated script to look at the history of various company articles and extract the stated number of employees on a regular basis. Since this information isn't presented in a consistent form across such articles, it would be a non-trivial task to write such a script. And of course this information could be extracted manually by visiting the history tab, if the list wasn't too large.
However, even if such a script was written, I don't think the results would be of much value. Employee counts are typically not updated on a quarterly basis in such articles, and would normally only be updated when a reliable source has published such information, and a Wikipedia editor chances to use that source to update the article. Furthermore, employee counts in Wikipedia articles are often rounded to fairly low precision -- one or two significant digits -- introducing further error into any data set based on the articles.
I understand that in the US large companies report employment numbers to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and there are probably similar government agencies collecting such data in other countries. I don't know if they provide quite the breakdown you are looking for, but they would probably be a better source for such data than Wikipedia articles. Good luck. DES (talk) 21:43, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

When is an article too long?[edit]

I can't find anything in the MOS, but at what point is an article considered too long for summary style? RO(talk) 22:27, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Article size. Dismas|(talk) 22:42, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
In particular, see the section Wikipedia:Article_size#Size_guideline. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:44, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, guys! So anything less than 50 kB should be okay? I'm not sure the average attention span for internet users is really that long though. How old is this standard? RO(talk) 22:48, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
In most cases the practical limit is not the size guideline, but the amount of significant things there are to say about a subject which are appropriate for a Wikipedia article and supported by reliable sources. DES (talk) 22:59, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
To your attention span point, please don't cater to the idea that attention spans have decreased in the Internet age. If we are to be an encyclopedia containing all the knowledge, then we can't start saying "Oh, people will be bored with all this." If it's notable and can be reliably sourced, it should be here. Dismas|(talk) 23:06, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
I meant more that few internet surfers will come here to read one article for 45 minutes straight. They are more likely to skim it and read the sections that interest them the most. That's was just a quick opinion after reading the guideline. I haven't thought much about it, so I might be wrong. RO(talk) 23:25, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Even if they don't read the whole article at one sitting, that doesn't mean that it is necessary to split it into articles that can be read at one sitting. Also, some readers will read a whole article at one sitting. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:38, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

May 21[edit]

Kitty Terry aka Kitty Woodson Terry[edit]

I have been trying for years to establish a page on Wikipedia I will donate money if need to Can someone help me how to get through the difficult process of getting a page for an established artist on Wikipedia I have an album picture I would like to upload as well. You have given my husband a page and he really hasn't done much but co write three way Lay Down Sally He also punched Eric in the chest but that isn't important. You gave him front row Why is it so difficult on a page where the public can supposedly contribute yo get a page for myself. Would you get me on touch with someone to help me I will donate Before I die I would like to leave a legacy of good work for my son. I am 60 and have worked very hard to achieve what I have accomplished. Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kitty Terry aka Kitty Woodson Terry (talkcontribs) 00:29, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

For help creating a new article, please see Wikipedia:Creating an article. However, you should not create an article about yourself, as autobiography is generally prohibited here. To request that another editor consider doing so, please see Wikipedia:Requested articles. Since you have provided no explanation of any difficulties you may have experienced, this is the only advice I can offer you. Dwpaul Talk 00:34, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Also, please note our policies concerning notability. Please be prepared to provide citations and/or links to independent, published and reliable sources that document your claim to notability when requesting that an article be created. Dwpaul Talk 00:43, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
And please note that Wikipedia does not accept bribes... AndyTheGrump (talk) 08:50, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Hello, Kitty. The "you" who wrote an article about George Terry is a few editors (out of the thousands) of Wikipedia who happened to choose to work on this article (including yourself). There isn't a staff or editorial board that decides what we should have articles about - we all do this, according to the agreed policies. Unfortunately, most of the people who have contributed to that article are unaware of our policies that (especially for an article about a living person) every single piece of information in an article needs to be cited to a reliable published source, the bulk of the article must be cited to sources unconnected with the subject, and if such sources don't exist then it is impossible to write an acceptable article about the subject. As it stands, that article may be deleted at any time, and it will remain under that threat until such time as somebody finds, and cites in the article, several places where people who have no connection to Terry have written substantial articles about him and had them published in reliable places. How much or little he has done is irrelevant: the criterion is whether people have written about him or not. If such sources do exist, and somebody adds them to the article, the next criterion for an acceptable article will be that it be written in a neutral tone, with no hint of promotion about it. (The material you added to the article last week would be partly acceptable if it were referenced, but some of it is promotional language and not acceptable in any case).
The same strictures would apply to any article about you: it must be based entirely on published information and almost entirely on material written by people who have no connection with you. If such material has not been published in reliable places, then an article will not be acceptable however it is written. As Dwpaul says, you are very strongly discouraged from trying to create it yourself. Finally, I'm afraid I must say that you desire to leave something for your son, however understandable and laudable, has nothing whatever to do with Wikipedia. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, nothing else. I suggest you create your own site, which you can use any way you like. --ColinFine (talk) 16:40, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

@Kitty Terry aka Kitty Woodson Terry: Please return to this page and read the responses above, instead of harassing other editors on their talk pages about this issue. Dwpaul Talk 17:32, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Barry Long[edit]

I would like to edit Marital status and relationships of barry Long , I have proof of a significant relationship and would like it included.... how do I do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karma46 (talkcontribs) 01:43, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Karma46, I assume you refer to the Barry Long article. When you say "I have proof" do you have a citeable, published, reliable source? If not, the information should not be included. If you do, I suggest posting to Talk:Barry Long if you are unsure of how to format or word the addition, and others should help. DES (talk) 02:42, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
And even if there are references, if the material amounts to supermarket tabloid gossip, it probably isn't appropriate for Wikipedia.--ukexpat (talk) 12:17, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Sandbox article[edit]

I have just written an article on my sandbox, but now it seems to have disappeared. Can you get it back? It doesn't yet have a title, but it is about Diary of a Man in Despair.

Sardaka (talk) 08:54, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

@Sardaka: I reverted this edit, in which you blanked the article. For some reason you also have another sandbox page named User:Sardaka/Sandbox, which also contains some content; neither sandbox appears to be about Diary of a Man in Despair. ―Mandruss  09:15, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Uploading photos[edit]


I have a quick question about uploading photos. I would like to upload photos that I have been given permission to use by the Department of National Defence (Canada). These photos are owned by the Crown, but have been cleared for public use. What is the correct 'phrase' I should click on in order to ensure the photos do not get taken down (which is something I experienced when I attempted to do so before).

Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CFHSPAO (talkcontribs) 13:17, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

First you should communicate the permission to OTRS by email to: Please also confirm that the permission is for all purposes including commercial reuse. Permission limited to use on Wikipedia is not sufficient.--ukexpat (talk) 14:12, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Confused by apparently blacklisted link[edit]

There is a Wiki article for MoneyWeek which itself includes a link to its website. But if i try to link to a page on the website http://moneyweek. com/author/dominic-frisby/ (remove space before "com") here it is rejected as a blacklisted link. MoneyWeek mentions some criticism of it referenced by a blog MoneyWeek#Controversy but personally im not aware of any major issues with it.--Penbat (talk) 13:29, 21 May 2015 (UTC) appears on MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist preventing its use, but some links to specific pages within the domain may work because they are listed on MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist which provides exceptions to the blacklist. You can request whitelisting of the link you want to use at MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist. Deli nk (talk) 13:36, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Can i also request removing it entirely from the blacklist as is supported only by a blog which is not a reliable source and also does not support the "criticized by various independent writers" claim. Also I tried putting in the link to Moneyweek home page into but it was not allowed.--Penbat (talk) 13:45, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
You can request removal here MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#Proposed_removals, for reference it was added to the blacklist in this edit October 2008 which appears to have been based on the publisher doing something, not the individual site. Monty845 13:48, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Trying to get reason for page deletions from user Coffee, but have not received a reply[edit]

Howdy Wikipedia!

Was a yearly donating member to your most excellent cause, I was initially rather distraught when two of my pages were deleted (Victim Cache and Chipsurf). The user Coffee appears to have deleted the Victim Cache page. I suspect it may be due to the collision with the actual CPU cache of which our band name was derived. A felt a much better course of action was to simply rename the page (e.g. 'Victim Cache (Band)', and/or to contact me about this.

This is the second time my band's page has been abruptly deleted without me being contacted and, again, as a yearly donating member, it is irritating at best. While I'm not asking for special treatment, I've spent hours working on said pages and made efforts to make them comply with Wikipedia's policy. I do not believe they violate said policy and ultimately deserve to be there.

Either way, I think I deserve to be contacted about this. I understand Wikipedia is run by volunteers but abrupt deletions without any contact mentioning the reason is only less bad than asking for clarification and not getting it.


Tim S. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M00dawg (talkcontribs) 13:46, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

@M00dawg: Hi! Victim Cache has been deleted twice, both times because the article didn't indicate that the subject was notable. A notable thing is defined as something that has "gained sufficiently significant attention by the world at large". You show a thing (like your band) is notable by showing that it has "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". You say this is the second time the page has been "abruptly deleted" without you being contacted, but that's not exactly true. The first time it was deleted you were contacted with a note on your talk page, see here. The second time it was deleted through a process called articles for deletion, where a page is listed for a week so people can discuss if it belongs on Wikipedia or not. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victim Cache was actually listed for 2 weeks, and then deleted. A two week period for debate and discussion is hardly "abruptly deleted."
At any rate, if you want to recreate the article and avoid having it deleted again, you need to make sure you cite sources. These sources must be published material that was not created by the band itself and show why the band is important. If you have questions or need help with this, let us know. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 14:05, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Essential reading:
Wikipedia:Conflict of interest
Wikipedia:Notability (music)
Per the conflict of interest guidelines, you are "strongly discouraged" from creating an article about your band at all - and if you do so, you must make your relationship with the band clear on the article talk page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:16, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
One further point, M00dawg: nobody here has any idea who has sponsored Wikimedia and who has not (unless somebody chooses to announces their sponsorship) and it plays no part whatever in deletion or any other administrative decisions. --ColinFine (talk) 16:49, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Additionally, the idea that donating would put your articles above any others is disturbing and entirely against the the very foundation of what Wikipedia stands for. PureRED (talk) 16:53, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
I had a quick look at the deleted article. The problem, as others have suggested, is that the article did not demonstrate sufficient 'notability'—that is, there just doesn't seems to be enough independent, outside coverage of the group to support a Wikipedia article at this time. The only two cited sources that weren't from the band's own websites or social media accounts were two very brief posts (two and five sentences) from the Dingus On Music blog, giving minuscule, capsule reviews of a couple of the band's tracks; the coverage identified seems to fall far short of the standard set in WP:BAND. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 17:15, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Printed and not online sources[edit]

Hello, If I have some infomation from magazine, newspaper,... that don't have online version. For example, I have a magazine and want to use it to cite an infomation in an article but only printed version is available. How can I make the preference without any url? Thanks Thien (talk) 14:18, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Have a look at Template:Cite journal or Template:Cite news which may be some help. MilborneOne (talk) 14:20, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, I have checked the Template:Cite news but all the example there have "|url=" in it. Can I just type "none" in the url part? It become like this which is something wrong.

Pank, Philip (2013-10-18). [none "Families Accuse Network Rail of Cover-Up"] Check |url= scheme (help). The Times (London). Archived from the original on 2013-10-18. Retrieved 2013-10-18. Thien (talk) 14:27, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

When using that template, if you don't have information for any of the slots, just leave them blank. Like this: Kent, Clark (2015-02-28). "Superman Exposed!". The Daily Planet.  See? The url field is just left off. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 14:34, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you , just one more thing, if I scanned the magazine page and upload the scanned picture. Should I put that url in "|archiveurl=" or "|url="? Since that is "me post" not original, I guess it can not be in the "official" url place, but leaving "|url=" blank and "|archiveurl=" not blank create some red code error. What should I do? Can using a reference without any url lead to an "unverifiable" notice? Thanks.Thien (talk) 15:06, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
This is discussed in the "Accessibility" section of the "Verifiability" policy. Print sources are definitely acceptable; there is no need to create an online copy. Most print sources are protected by copyright, so you should not scan and post a copy unless you can verify the copyright has expired or the material has been released under a free license. See Wikipedia:Copyright assistance. Jc3s5h (talk) 15:15, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Also note that in this era of Photoshop, purported scans of articles are not regarded as reliable sources unless on the website of the original publisher. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:48, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Thien (talk) 15:19, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Article Creation[edit]

NAC: Article titles salted. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:04, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Hello! I want to create article about macphun software company. I did 4 attempts with 4 unique articles but all of these were deleted. I did not paste any commercial links or promotional content. Can you help me submit the article as far as macphun users often need wiki advice on the company - please help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SipleDailyUser (talkcontribs) 18:20, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

This is the only edit that you have done, unless your previous edits to create the article were deleted, but you don't even have any talk page messages about deleted articles. Did you use a different account to attempt to create the articles, or did you attempt to create the article from an IP address? IP addresses cannot create articles. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:44, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Every time the article was deleted I created new account and started over again, I want to say also has their page on wiki with links and company info, so we tried with macphun. What shall we do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SipleDailyUser (talkcontribs)

@SipleDailyUser: Please don't create a new account for every new attempt. You can keep it to just one account.
You may find it easiest to go through the Articles for Creation process to get the article written and approved. That way you get some guidance along the way. Note however that just because Apple has an article here, it doesn't mean that every company is notable enough to have an article. I have no idea what "macphun" is but if it is a company, it would have to be notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia by coming up to the standards at WP:CORP. Dismas|(talk) 19:11, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

I believe we are notable enough as far as we have minimum 5 million users and the number grows + we are highly rated company on the appstore for 7 years already. Thanks - I wiil try again right now — Preceding unsigned comment added by SipleDailyUser (talkcontribs) 19:26, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

See the extracts from the deletion logs at Macphun.--ukexpat (talk) 19:23, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
And Macphun Software.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:33, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Hello, SipleDailyUser. I'm afraid that, like many people, you misunderstand what Wikipedia is, and what it is for. Apple does not have an article in Wikipedia. In fact, no company in the world has an article in Wikipedia - not even the Wikimedia Foundation. Wikipedia has an article on Apple. This is not just pedantry: Apple has no control over the Wikipedia article Apple Corporation, and had little or no involvement in its creation. Material will not be added to the article just because Apple wants it there, and will not be removed just because Apple doesn't like it. We are able to have an article on Apple because there is a great deal written about it by people who have no connection with the corporation - and ideally, the article is entirely based on these writings, and little or nothing based on what Apple have said.
So for your company, the same holds. If there is substantial published material about your company, written and published by people who have no connection with the company, then Wikipdeia can have an article about the company. It will not belong to the company, the company will have no control over it, and in fact you (as somebody belonging to the company) are strongly discouraged from editing it at all, because it is likely to be difficult for you to write in a neutral manner. If there is little independent material about your company, in reliable sources, then the company is not notable in Wikipedia's special sense. The number of customers is of no relevance. --ColinFine (talk) 20:50, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
The Original Poster's use of the pronoun "we" is troublesome, because it strongly implies an affiliation with the company, which is a conflict of interest. The throwing away of accounts and creation of new accounts is also troublesome. It seems to imply that they think that their article is more likely to be accepted if there is no record of the previous deletion of the article, which would be avoiding accountability in violation of the sockpuppetry policy. Why did you throw away each account and create a new account, if not to be evasive? Robert McClenon (talk) 21:23, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

May 22[edit]

Line-break handling[edit]

Hi, I need help thinking of a way to avoid an ugly line-break. What I'm looking for is something that looks like this:

Importantly the title (Castlevania II: Simon's Quest) should be linked and italic; the terminal 's portion should be unlinked and non-italic. And finally there should be no line-break between Quest and the terminal 's portion. The background for this question can be found in the last few edits at the history of I am Error and on my talk page here

Below are some of my attempts and the resulting problems.

Markup Display Problems
''[[Castlevania II: Simon's Quest]]''{{'}}​s Castlevania II: Simon's Quest‍ '​​s This appears correctly (italic linked title, non-italic unlinked 's portion), but it apparently line-breaks at the 's.
''[[Castlevania II: Simon's Quest]]'''​s Castlevania II: Simon's Quest'​s This contains an English usage error (the 's shouldn't be italicized) and it violates MOS:PUNCT.
''[[Castlevania II: Simon's Quest]]''<nowiki>'​s</nowiki> Castlevania II: Simon's Quest'​s Again it looks OK, but I worry that it would also line-break at the 's.
{{nowrap|''[[Castlevania II: Simon's Quest]]''{{'}}​s}} Castlevania II: Simon's Quest‍ '​​s This looks fine but now the entire expression is unable to be line-broken. If there must be a line-break it should fall between Simon's and Quest's
[[Castlevania II: Simon's Quest|''Castlevania II: Simon's {{nowrap|Quest''{{'}}s}}]] Castlevania II: Simon's Quest‍ '​s The problem is that the 's is now part of the link and it shouldn't be.
''[[Castlevania II: Simon's Quest|''Castlevania II: Simon's]]'' {{nowrap|''[[Castlevania II: Simon's Quest|Quest]]''{{'}}s}} Castlevania II: Simon's Quest‍ '​s The problem is that it breaks the link into two halves.

I'm kind of running out of ideas at this point. Do any of you have any advice? -Thibbs (talk) 01:57, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

@Thibbs: I don't see the problem with the second example. You say "the 's shouldn't be italicized", and it isn't, at least for me. And where does it violate MOS:PUNCT? ―Mandruss  02:07, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
I now see that the apostrophe is italicized, after zooming in to 150%. ―Mandruss  02:08, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
How about bypassing the problem by rephrasing, which would make for easier reading anyway? Nintendo Life's Morgan Sleeper compared the translation of Castlevania II: Simon's Quest  to the quote. ―Mandruss  02:12, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Rephrasing would work for me. This may just be a case of imposing too many requirements. What I was hoping for is some kind of a special non-breaking apostrophe character (the equivalent of &nbsp; or &#8209;) or something. I don't know. Thanks for your thoughts, Mandruss. -Thibbs (talk) 02:29, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Can it break before the apostrophe in your browser? In my Firefox it can apparently only break after the apostrophe so it can be avoided with an ordinary link followed by {{nowrap|'s}}: Castlevania II: Simon's Quest's. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:12, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Any luck with {{nowrap begin}}/{{nowrap end}}? —Cryptic 03:19, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Hmm, how about:
''[[Castlevania II: Simon's Quest|Castlevania II: Simon's <span class="nowrap">Quest]]''<nowiki>'​s</nowiki></span>
which produces Castlevania II: Simon's Quest'​s?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:42, 22 May 2015 (UTC) Nope, checked, doesn't work. Move along nothing to see here.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:51, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

My Sandbox[edit]

At the top right-hand corner of my screen (in Wikipedia), it says: "Talk Sandbox Preferences Beta Watchlist Contributions Log out". All of those (except one) are blue links. The "Sandbox" link is red. Why is that? It had been blue, for years and years. Then, all of the sudden, it turned red (probably a few months ago). What is this all about? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 02:25, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

The link is to User:Joseph A. Spadaro/sandbox with lower case 's'. You have only created User:Joseph A. Spadaro/Sandbox with upper case 'S'. The implementation was changed from a gadget to an extension last month.[1] It was also lower case 's' before so I guess you never used it, but I think it was an edit url and not a wikilink in the gadget. Only wikilinks are red for non-existing pages. See more, including how to remove the link, at Help:My sandbox. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:28, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. But, sorry, I didn't understand a word you said. Can you explain again, please, with less computer/technical lingo and jargon? I didn't understand any of that. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk)
The page User:Joseph A. Spadaro/Sandbox, with a big S, exists, so the link to it is in blue. The page User:Joseph A. Spadaro/sandbox, with a small s, does not exist, so the link to it is in red. The software used not to care about the difference between S and s, but it does care now. Maproom (talk) 05:43, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
If you want the link to be blue then create a page at User:Joseph A. Spadaro/sandbox. If you want the link to be removed then place this in your CSS:
li#pt-sandbox { display: none; }
PrimeHunter (talk) 12:41, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Is there a way to make that RED link become a BLUE link? And is there a way to make that link to my "capital S" Sandbox (the way that it used to), as opposed to my "lower case s" sandbox (which is some new feature)? In other words, can I get it back to be the way that it used to be? So that the link at the top right of my page (which used to be blue and is now red) will link to the Sandboxes that I already have created (and are floating around at this page User:Joseph A. Spadaro/Sandbox)? I have some 70 pages with a "capital S" and I don't feel like renaming them all to "lower case s". Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:17, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure it's a great idea, but you could probably make the "little s" page a redirect to the "big S" page. Create the "little s" page and put #REDIRECT [[User:Joseph A. Spadaro/Sandbox]] on it. Rwessel (talk) 17:23, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks, all. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:57, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Sacraments of the Catholic Church[edit]

Reference help requested. What is wrong with this reference Thanks, Jackgarcia49 (talk) 04:12, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Hey Jack. ISBN number come in two flavors: those 10 digits long and those 13 digits long (after 2007). I am guessing that the place where you copied the ISBN number for this citation identified it as a ten digit number by placing the "10:" in front of it, but that is not part of the number, and is what was causing the error. In other words it's just 1-57455-720-3, not "10: 1-57455-720-3". Note that pages= automatically places "pp.", and page= automatically places "p.", so use the former for more than one page, the latter for a single page and place the abbreviation in neither. Also, I'm not sure what is meant by "93 #325". Was "93 & 325" meant?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:38, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

link on article set to blacklist[edit]

the wikipedia site ( show the hint that a process set the link to blacklist. I still have no idea what's to. I don't know which link was blocked and why. I'm also not sure that I can request to setup the link to whitelist or only the writer can do this

Rainer — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:25, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

That'll be the article SGS S.A.. The blacklisted links are to the subject's own web site, I have removed one such link which was used as a reference, against Wikipedia policy. The other two are at the foot of the infobox, and at the foot of the article. I do not know why the domain has been blacklisted, but the usual reason is someone adding spammy links to the domain to Wikipedia articles. Maproom (talk) 07:38, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
There is an explanation inside the messege (click the [show] link there):
a domain part in the link ( is detected as a substring of pattern \bsgs\.com\b included in a local blacklist (MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist).
I think you may post a question about reasons of blacklisting the domain at the black-list talk page, either in the Troubleshooting or the Discussion section (MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#Troubleshooting and problems and MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#Discussion, respectively).
Then you can also propose un-listing the domain in MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#Proposed removals. --CiaPan (talk) 08:03, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

ref error[edit]

Sorry, but I seem to have messed up an entry that I was trying to clarify. I have the message that a closing ref is missing, but I was not aware that I used any. The page is Keilor, Victoria and the message is still showing.Vikinghunt (talk) 07:21, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

With this edit, you added an explanation of the name "Keilor" to the article Keilor, Victoria, and also accidentally added two empty ref tags at the start of the article. Another editor then undid both your changes. Maproom (talk) 07:32, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Polyimide spam[edit]

I need a paper's format.Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:41, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

All references in wiki pages must have a <ref> tag at the beginning and a </ref> tag at the end or the error message will appear. VegasCasinoKid (talk) 08:46, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
To the OP: I see that you and others have made repeated attempts to add a promotional link to the article polyimide. If this continues, it is likely that the domain you are trying to link to will be blacklisted by Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 08:58, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Language link to Commons[edit]

How come a link to a corresponding page at Commons does not show up as a 'language link' to the left on the page? See my profile page for an example. Tutlulu (talk) 09:37, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Because Commons isn't a different language Wikipedia. Those links are now handled through Wikidata anyway, but even before, they were for interlanguage links, not other purposes. --ColinFine (talk) 09:57, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
There are templates for linking to Commons and the sister projects, such as {{Commons}} and {{Commons-inline}}.--ukexpat (talk) 12:16, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
If it's for your user page then you could use {{User Commons}}. Articles and some other pages often have a "Wikidata item" link under "Tools" in the left pane. It goes to a page which can include links to other Wikimedia projects. For example, this help desk links to wikidata:Q4026300 which includes commons:Commons:Help desk. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:36, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Display issue in Firefox[edit]

While reading an article on Aerogel on your page (Aerogel) I noticed that the IUPAC definition, which appears to be a quote box, doesn't render properly in Firefox. If you make your browser window wider than about 1360 pixels, the quote box overwrites the table of contents area. I was logged in at the time, if that matters.

I was unable to recreate this problem in Internet Explorer, and do not have Chrome or Opera installed on this machine. I was also unable to find a bug reporting feature on your site. If one exists, and you would like me to post this on that bug tracking tool, let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephenjay (talkcontribs) 16:06, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Stephenjay, please see mw:How to report a bug for instructions on filing bug reports. WP:VPT is a place where techni al issues in general may be discussed, its header links to the above bug reporter. BTW I can see the issue also, and may file a report later. DES (talk) 18:18, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Urgent notice[edit]

Requesting deletion on user pages of old accounts[edit]

Hi, I have a question of requesting deletion of user pages for accounts I used before. The three accounts I used before are User:Basic Editor (edit | [[Talk:User:Basic Editor|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), User:Wiki-Vector (edit | [[Talk:User:Wiki-Vector|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), and User:Grammar Expert (edit | [[Talk:User:Grammar Expert|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). The issue is I have forgotten the passwords of those accounts, so I cannot log in to them nor I could recover the passwords for them because I did not setup any email addresses. However, I looked at the main page of the template and its presents this text "Warning: This page was last edited by a user other than the owner of the userspace in which it was used. Please make sure the page was tagged by the correct user before deleting.". I do not know what to do in order to request deletion of the pages I had use before (listed above) with my main user account Editor of 3000. I was wondering if I could have tag {{Db-u1}} on the user pages on the three accounts I used before with my main user account (Editor of 3000) that will lead to the result of them being deleted or is there another way I could have done to get the userpages deleted since I could not access the accounts I used before. Can someone please tell me on what I should do. Editor of 3000 (talk) 18:16, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

If you don't have the password, and hadn't set an email, there is no way we can determine that the accounts were yours. And in any case, none of the accounts have user pages - they have user talk pages, but these aren't eligible to be deleted under Db-u1. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:28, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

references - probably entered them wrong[edit]


In the Goodyear Blimp article, I noticed there was not a mention of the blimp based in Houston for twenty plus years so I added a paragraph on it (see fleet section). Then under external links I included links to two articles that prove my point. The external links are shown as [1] and [2] but the link titles aren't shown like the other external links on the page. Did I do something wrong? I was just trying to prove the paragraph I inserted.

Thank you for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shwylde (talkcontribs) 18:21, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Please take a look at WP:REFB for help.--ukexpat (talk) 18:25, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
And see the changes I made here to move your refs out of the External links section and link them to the content they support. Dwpaul Talk 18:26, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
And further, this edit made with the assistance of WP:REFILL (note that it also identified a couple of dead links).--ukexpat (talk) 19:48, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


Hello. How do I edit my signature? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PillPullPoll (talkcontribs) 19:57, 22 May 2015 (UTC) Sorry. I mean I know how to make my signature appear on the page, but I want it to look different? PillPullPoll (talk) 19:58, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

See the Signature section of your Preferences. Dwpaul Talk 20:00, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. PillPullPoll (talk) 20:02, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Your signature looks fine to me. Why get egotistical and follow this Customizing your signature. – just because you can? We don't care how you signature appears. Rather, your esteem relies on the quality of your edits.--Aspro (talk) 20:12, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
@Aspro: some people might want their signature to look different so they can easily find their comments and replies to their comments in lengthy discussions. Other people might want find it annoying that the standard signature doesn't link to a persons contributions and want to fix that in their own signature. It is not egotistical to want improved functionality. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 21:20, 22 May 2015 (UTC)