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August 18[edit]

Units of measurement[edit]

I asked this question about a week ago, but can't find it, either here or on the Village Pump HD. Where in MoS will I find standard units of measurement in Wiki style, e.g. 6 ins, a 6-in ruler, 5-mile long, a 10 ft wave, a 12 lb weight, or a 12-lb weight, or a 12lb weight, etc - in other words, the bog standard stuff? The units of measurement section in MoS seems to have everything but the very simple sort of thing that you see at the back of calendars, in diaries, etc. Have I missed it? There are a couple of brief mentions, but no simple lists laying out the Wiki style for these basic units of measurement. --P123ct1 (talk) 01:38, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

P123ct1: Is this (and especially the table if you scroll down a bit) what you are looking for? AddWittyNameHere (talk) 01:41, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
AddWittyNameHere: Yes, I see buried in there the sort of information I was after, but it could do with more examples, I think. But thanks for that, it answers some questions I had about how to write certain things. --P123ct1 (talk) 07:46, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

add new word[edit]

how to add a new word? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rshanewright (talkcontribs) 01:53, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not have entries for word definitions. You want Wiktionary:. SpinningSpark 01:56, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Wikipedia is is not a dictionary, so we don't add "words". For a new article on a topic, it will need to meet the basic inclusion criteria: that third party, reliable sources have covered the subject in a significant manner. If you have topic that meets those criteria, then I would suggest following the "articles for creation" process which will help guide you to creating an article that meets the requirements. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:01, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Kirloskar Group[edit]

Reference help requested.

Thanks, Lotje (talk) 04:11, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

@Lotje: Fixed. Caused by a stray template ({{Citation}}, which was {{Citation Missing}} before your edit (ALSO faulty, but not detected as reference error because it's simply a non-existing template). Changed it to {{citation needed}} because I strongly suspect that was intended. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 04:26, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Thank you ever so much AddWittyNameHere Face-smile.svg Lotje (talk) 04:29, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
No problem, glad to have been of help! Face-grin.svg AddWittyNameHere (talk) 04:30, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

user names for companies and info[edit]


I have been given the task by my company to generate a Wikipedia page.

What user name can I use ?

We are only posting history and current situation of the company.

How do I avoid conflict with wikipedia criteria as I have attempted twice and had the page deleted. The first time I can understand.

The second time caused me confusion as I thought I'd removed any 'advertising'?

Your direction and advice would be appreciated.


Jeff — Preceding unsigned comment added by Green117 (talkcontribs) 05:08, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Because you have a conflict of interest you should NOT be creating or directly editing any page for any company you work for because you CANNOT avoid having a conflict of interest. Please read the Terms of Use. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:18, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Your best bet is to gather reliably published sources that are not affiliated with your company and use the "request an article" process. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:22, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
With regard to your first question, your own username, Green117, is as good as any. (That's assuming the company is not called "Green".) Be sure you don't use a name that indicates affiliation with the company; that would attract negative attention among other problems. —teb728 t c 09:40, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Using a name that shows affiliation with a company is not only acceptable, but is even recommended for COI editors. In any event they should declare their affiliation somewhere. What is not acceptable is naming the account after a company such as "Luton Plumbing" since this implies shared use and could be considered promotional, but a name like "John at Luton Plumbing" is fine. Also not acceptable are overtly promotional names such as "Luton Plumbing are best". The policy is at Wikipedia:Username policy. SpinningSpark 11:54, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Hello, Jeff. I'm afraid your company has given you an inappropriate and difficult task. You company has no say whatever on whether Wikipedia has an article about them, and if there is an article the company has no control over its contents. You can request an article as TRPoD says, and if an article is created you can monitor it and make suggestions on its talk page; but that is the limit of your proper involvement. --ColinFine (talk) 14:31, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

writing books and articles[edit]

respecred sir/madam, i am writing books and articles on general topics. i have written various books on religious topics. if you require a new writer for the writing books for publishing, i offer my services for the post new writer thanking you with warm regardx sunil sachwani — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:32, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

New editors are always welcome, there is no job interview, no qualifications are required, but the pay is not very good. SpinningSpark 12:02, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Help to stop vandalism against my good name - James Wardell[edit]

Dear Wikipedia, I just ran a search and found a Wikipedia article about me and what I do. I had a read through and was horrified to see that there is reference to an aggravated sexual battery conviction(under the awards, honours and associations title). This is a link to my page: James Wardell

The shocking untruth about is contained within the following paragraph: He worked for Saatchi & Saatchi, Ogilvy & Mather and Publicis between 2001 until 2004. During this time was arrested for aggravated sexual battery [15] Is a member of Frontline Club and Entrepreneurs Network Barcelona. In 2005, he was one of the founding members of the Gracia Arts Project.

and the false external link is: [[1]]

I am more than happy to speak with the British police force about such slanderous attacks against my good name (albeit in a virtual world).

Could someone please contact me and let me know what options I have to enable my article to remain a truthful, honest account of myself? The damage of allowing such a man to continue causing havoc to my online presence is making me unwell.

Thank you for your time. I do hope you can help me.

James Wardell — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:26, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

I had a look at the article and the external link and was convinced it was about a different James Wardell. I have reverted the edits and left a warning on the editor's talk page. JIP | Talk 08:35, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
And just an FYI, "slander" is a civil matter and the police have more important things to do.--ukexpat (talk) 12:53, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
It might be a good idea to create a Wikipedia user account and add that article to your 'watchlist' and go into preferences and click the box to email you every time someone edits the article. That way you can keep track of things. Just a thought.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 01:03, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Help with my page[edit]

Hi I would like to be listed under Hollywood Agents as I have just as many qualifications & references as the other Hollywood agents listed in that section. My biography is complete but I do not know how to add my references such as my external links or IMDB Pro page. Is there someone that can help me add my articles, etc. so my page does not get deleted? I would really appreciate the help.

My name is Nancy Abt and the page I wrote is under fancienanc

Please help me finish my Wikipedia page. Thank you so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fancienanc (talkcontribs) 08:42, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:Autobiography. —teb728 t c 09:27, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Discovering Southern Africa - T V Bulpin[edit]

Do you have or could you advise if this book is available on CD disk format? Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:28, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. BencherliteTalk 12:04, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Section editing in tables[edit]

Is there a clever template that I can add to a long table to allow me only to edit part of it rather than the whole table? This is in relation to the recent TFAs page - when I'm adding a few new entries at the bottom, I don't really want to open the whole table, and putting it into monthly sub-tables would destroy the point of the large table. Or can anyone think of a clever way round this? Thanks, BencherliteTalk 11:02, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

If you don't want to add or remove table rows you could copy the template to a user page and edit it with VE (under the "beta" tab if you don't know where to find it). You have to copy it across because unfortunately VE is not yet enabled on the Wikipedia namespace. It is also currently very limited on what it can do with tables. SpinningSpark 12:25, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
I've been pleased with the ability of VE to handle simple edits to a table. (Oops, sorry, missed that you want to add rows)--S Philbrick(Talk) 12:39, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
One other, and possibly better option: if you check out List of current NCAA Division I women's basketball coaches you will see that it is one long table, so you can sort the entire table, yet it is made up of sections, in his case, by conference. When I want to edit an entry, the edit button opens just one conference. I didn't create it, I got help form User:Technical 13, but if you have separate groups by month, it should work. One difference is that in the coach list, we might can add teams easily, but adding a new conference is more work (I think) and you need to add a new month regularly.--S Philbrick(Talk) 12:48, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

How to restore a deleted page CGEIT[edit]

Dear sir/madam,

The page CGEIT (CGEIT) shows as deleted. How can I recover the page. It contained a valuable overview of a professional certification, corresponding exam, etc.

The deletion log shows "22:53, 9 July 2011 Fastily (talk | contribs) deleted page CGEIT (G8: Page dependent on a deleted or nonexistent page)"

The page of the Fastily user shows that it is deleted and his Talks show deep unsatisfaction with the community or what he did before he left. That brings me to thoughts that the deletion of the CGEIT pages might have been one of his/her acts, not properly checked.

I would appreciate your help with restoring the page.

Thanks in advance, Oleksandr — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:48, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

The deletion you really want to complain about is that of Certified in the Governance of Enterprise IT, which was speedily deleted for being advertising. As an administrator I can check the content of deleted articles, and I agree. I would also have deleted it as a blatant copyright violation as well - it seems to have been copied virtually word-for-word from other websites about the exam. If you think that there's a proper encyclopedic article to be written about the topic, i.e. that you can demonstrate that it is notable using reliable and independent sources, go ahead. You may want to look at the articles for creation process for help. BencherliteTalk 12:03, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
By the way, the page was deleted in 2011. The administrator who deleted the page quit Wikipedia in 2012. There is no reason to think that there is any connection between the two. Another administrator, in 2014, agrees that he would have deleted the page as it was written when deleted. Robert McClenon (talk)


Last week I was using copy-paste from Word and Indesign (Mac) directly into the edit article's window of Wiki and the footnotes were placed perfectly. This week I wanted to add new footnotes and was not possible. Tried to export Word text from Open Office to Wiki but conversion for Mac seems unavailable. As the texts has dozens of footnotes now lost I ask advice. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Camilo Umaña (talkcontribs) 13:40, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Camilo Umaña. Nobody has answered this yet, so I'll try, but I'm not certain. As far as I know, if you cut and paste from Word to Wikipedia, you will lose nearly all formatting, and it certainly won't preserve footnotes. I believe there are some external tools for converting Word documents to Wikimarkup, but I don't know anything about them. --ColinFine (talk) 19:09, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Such tools are listed here: Wikipedia:Tools/Editing tools#From Microsoft Word or OpenOffice.--ukexpat (talk) 20:04, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Actually, if you paste text containing footnotes from word using VisualEditor (but not in the normal source editor) the footnotes are, in fact, pasted into the Wikipedia page below the pasted text. But not in any useful wikitext form where they can be easily incorporated in a reflist. SpinningSpark 01:51, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Colin, thanks for this reply. It was something weird because in my first session with Wikipedia I copy-pasted texts directly. The proof is this piece of text that is in my history of that day. Anyway, yesterday I was tryiing to repeat the process and was impossible!

  • Este nombre[1] se origina en la antigua Provincia de León, en la parte norte de España. Pertenece a la categoría de los denominados apellidos toponímicos[2], q

Well, I will try to use some find/change tools with grep perhaps to insert html codes. Again, thanks for your very nice help CU 15:23, 19 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Camilo Umaña (talkcontribs)

Incorrect date and reference on Wikipedia page for Fourth Church of Christ, Scientist, New Orleans, LA[edit]

Fourth Church of Christ, Scientist (New Orleans)

The church was built in 1912, but the descriptive paragraph lists 1925. Please change the date to 1912 in the first paragraph.

There is a link to a Christian Science church in Houston, Texas, under references, but that is a different church. Please remove it from Fourth Church's page. (The deletion doesn't appear on the edits.)

Thank you for your help.

Fourth Church of Christ, Scientist 134 Polk Ave. New Orleans, LA 70124 — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:18, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Hmmm...the article does seem to contradict itself in the date of construction. Can you find a source that says it was built in 1912, so the requested changes can be made? Thanks π♂101 (talk) 16:30, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Here is the link to the Lakeview Presbyterian church's history which was the congregation that originally owned the building. In the second paragraph, there is a petition approving a building dated Feb. 1912:

That source doesn't state when the building was actually completed, but the Christian Science church (which is the current owner) was given a printed sheet during one of the anniversary celebrations which stated the building was completed in November 1912. The Christian Science church also invited the Presbyterians for their 100-year-anniversary in November 2012, and you can read that write up and see a photo with the 100-year-date on this page:

If you read the history in the upper left, you will see that the building was raised to two stories in 1925 with a basement on the first floor. That might be the source of the confusion with the 1925 date. I was present at the 2012 100-year-anniversary, so that 1912 date is the one celebrated.

Fourth Church of Christ, Scientist 134 Polk Ave. New Orleans, LA 70124 — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:15, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

That evidence looks good enough for me. I am going to change all the dates to 1912. Thanks for helping. π♂101 (talk) 21:53, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done That listed date of construction has been changed. Thanks again. π♂101 (talk) 21:58, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Can you also remove reference #3 which is a link to a church in Houston? That link must have been added in error since it has nothing to do with our New Orleans church. Fourth Church of Christ, Scientist 134 Polk Ave. New Orleans, LA 70124 — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:07, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Please could you make any further requests on Talk:Fourth Church of Christ, Scientist (New Orleans), and please put {{Request edit}} to get attention.
Please stop putting your mailing address. I suggest you create a user account but don't name it after the church, because accounts are for a person, not an organization (WP:CORPNAME).
I also suggest you read WP:PSCOI. (talk) 23:27, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

how to replace an image[edit]

I have uploaded a new image to wikimedia commons. We would like to use this image to replace an old image of the VOA Bethany Relay station.

Need help, please — Preceding unsigned comment added by Founding Joker (talkcontribs) 17:30, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm a little confused, Joker. Who is this "we" of whom you speak? --Orange Mike | Talk 17:45, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Hi Founding Joker, I have added the image to the bottom of the page. I removed some of the text, because it was alot of text to add to an image. Any relevant texts can be added to the main article. I chose not to replace the existing image, because I think both images together give a broader view for the reader then either of them seperate. -- Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 17:58, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Question about feedback/comments on specific Wikipedia page[edit]

Hi there,

The page I'm contacting you about specifically is this one: Susan D. Shaw

As you'll see at the top, there's a box with 3 points noting multiple issues that have been found with the article, primarily that it reads like a news release and includes sources that may not be reliable. I would just like to better, and more specifically, understand this feedback and how the article can be improved so that it is in accordance with Wikipedia's guidelines. For instance, which sources stand out as being unreliable? Are there certain parts of the page that particularly stand out as overly promotional?

Since we would like this to comply with your guidelines and be as effective as possible as an informational page, any feedback and/or direction you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you. Mkron (talk) 22:04, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Notification of editor who added the tags: DGG π♂101 (talk) 22:08, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
(1)The article is oriented to praise her as much as to report on her work. This effect can be lessened by using her name less often, and not trying to make links to other notable people. For example in section 3, the second sentence is not needed. Similarly, in the awards section it is relevant that she received an award, but the names of some other famous people who did also is not. The quotes from her add nothing to the information. (2) "Senate testimony of" ... TreeHugger, and various blogs are not good sources.
The article is fixable. Go fix it. DGG ( talk ) 02:30, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Confused about citation.[edit]

I have been trying to update a page called Harley Johnstone, but I cannot seem to update the page because it gives me this message: Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).

I copied the citation exactly as it is, any advice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clarkdavej (talkcontribs) 22:39, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Fixed. You had a <ref> without a </ref>.
However, the references are not appropriate - a blog is not a reliable source. It doesn't state referenced facts, so it sounds promotional. For those reasons, I suspect it might be deleted quite soon. See WP:FIRST. (talk) 23:32, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Harley Johnstone has been speedily deleted.--ukexpat (talk) 12:58, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

change the title of a page Florida Minority Supplier Development Council[edit]

Our company has added Central and North to the name Florida Minority Supplier Development Council. I have edited the article. I can't edit the title or heading of the page. Please list steps to accomplish this. I am the originator (susanm12) but don't have a password.

sueneveu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sueneveu (talkcontribs) 23:11, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Don't do it like that. See the messages on your talkpage. Yunshui  07:54, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

August 19[edit]

How to create Simple English language for an existing article[edit]

What are the steps needed to create a Simple English language for an existing article? An answer in simple English would be appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yasmeh (talkcontribs) 03:00, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Basically it's no different than translating an article into any language, although one would hope translating to a simpler version of English would be easier than (say) French! In any event there are some pages over on Simple that should help. simple:Wikipedia:How_to_write_Simple_English_pages seems to offer a good starting point. And specific questions should really go over on simple:Wikipedia:Help_desk, not here, that project is basically independent of this one, and they have their own rules, procedures and whatnot, and are in a far better position to answer questions about them than people here are. Rwessel (talk) 03:28, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Typing error[edit]

DEAR SIR I ADDED MY NAME,DEGREES AND DATES IN THE LIST OF GRADUATES FROM THE SCHOOL OF BUSINESS AT SAM HOUSTON STATE UNIVERSITY IN HUNTSVILLE,TEXAS. I AM A SAUDI NATIONAL please correct a typing mistake in that entry for the word planning instead what was mistyped — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:59, 19 August 2014 (UTC)


I removed the stray text you put at the beginning of a section header line. —teb728 t c 07:32, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
This anon user added (presumably) his own name to List of Sam Houston State University alumni, but I have removed it on the grounds of non-notability. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 07:39, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Individual appearance in chess olympiads[edit]

Individual appearance in chess olympiad attracts the name of K SASIKIRAN of India who has played since 1998 continuously till 2014 and has completed 100 games so far in 9 chess olympiads — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:21, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

You may be looking for Wikipedia:Suggested articles. SpinningSpark 09:35, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Article already exists at Krishnan Sasikiran.Naraht (talk) 14:56, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Adding a South African Business Center[edit]

Hi Wikipedia

I am attempting to place my first page on wikipedia but before I begin I would like to find out how and where would be the best place to add my information.

The information I am looking to add is for 'The Business Centre'- The Business Centre is a nationwide business centre with buildings located in Johannesburg, Durban and Cape Town. The Business Centre offers serviced office space for businessmen and woman, it is especially popular with entrepreneurs.

I have browse the South African categories on wikipedia and felt there are a few changes that need to be made to accommodate business center's in South Africa as there is currently no listings under this section. These are the pages I've looked at: Category:Buildings and structures in Johannesburg - A new sub category can be added to include Business Centers and 'The Business Centre' can be added into the list of Buildings and structures in Johannesburg.

Category:Buildings and structures in Gauteng - The Business Center could also be added to this page

I feel that we could add the sub category 'Business Centres' to each province in South Africa as well as add 'The Business Centre' to the Cape Town, Durban and Johannesburg list of Buildings and structures.

Please could you advise me if this would be the correct way of going about things or how I should improve on it. Also please could you give me some guidelines on how to achieve all of this.

Regards Nazir — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aspects101 (talkcontribs) 08:35, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

1. Businesses of this sort are generally not notable enough to merit an encyclopedia article.
2. With your obvious conflict of interest, you are not a good candidate to work on this topic here, as you have a vested interest in publicizing your business. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:54, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Hello Nazir. The thing to do is to write the article first, and worry about categories later. (The particular categories you are looking at are about buildings, but what you are talking about is primarily an organisation, and only secondarily a building). If you want to write an article, look at your first article for a guide to what you need to do. The first thing is to determine whether the Centre meets the criteria of notability - which is not a question of how well known or significant it is, but simply whether it has been written about in reliable places (such as major newspapers) unconnected with the subject.
There are things in you wording that make me think that you may be connected to the Business Center: if this is the case, please be aware that editors with a conflict of interest are strongly discouraged from working on an article; and that anything that sounds remotely like promotion is strictly forbidden on Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 15:18, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

lenutaa_mirceaa-wkipedia help and happen[edit]

what is the wikHTTP Live Streamingipedia help_desk? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:40, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Are you looking for help with HTTP Live Streaming? Try Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. SpinningSpark 09:33, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Personal Profile[edit]

I am new to Wikipedia. Where and how do I submit a personal profile? Thanks for your prompt attention to this matter. Kgeuclid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kgeuclid (talkcontribs) 13:31, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

@Kgeuclid: You can create a userpage for yourself, by clicking Kgeuclid and adding content to it. However, there are some restrictions on what you can put on the page: you cannot put advertising or promotional content, no copyrighted content, no slander, and some other restrictions. Please see Wikipedia:User pages for some more information. You may also want to check out other usepages such as Spinningspark. You can look at mine, too, but it is not a very typical page. I hope that answers you question. π♂101 (talk) 14:06, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Hello Kgeuclid. Please be aware that Wikipedia is not a directory and does not have profiles. It has encyclopaedic articles written in a neutral tone about (not by) notable subjects. The User page that Piguy101 refers to is a place for people who are or intend to be editors of Wikipedia to share a little about themselves or their interests. It must not contain very much material unrelated to working on Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 15:22, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Is Wikipedia practicing censorship by omission ?>>>my page was redirected to another page-basically is now hidden, how do I unredirect my page from that page to show it on a search engine?[edit]

Is Wikipedia practicing censorship by omission ?>>>my page was redirected to another page-basically is now hidden, how do I undirect my page from that page to show it on a search engine

This is bizarre I posted a Wikipedia page- for i hour the page is up-then it vanishes? I backed checked -it came back as redirected to another page-I cant even find the link to it on the page it was redirected to? "Is Wikipedia practicing censorship by omission/" lets us see>>> can anyone find this Wikipedia page -or link? the page title>>> Sex Offender Activists

SIDE NOTE: this page was about a nation wide reform the sex offender registry movement in america to end people becoming sex offenders for public urination-mooning-streaking-teen having sex-Romeo-Juliet secret love affairs- a list other silly offenses'

P.S if any one can find the page please undirect it- redirect it to a single page on Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sexoffenderactivist (talkcontribs) 14:25, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

@Sexoffenderactivist: No, Wikipedia is not censored. The page you created looks like a large essay on a topic Wikipedia already has, Sex offender registration did not meet Wikipedia's standards for a standalone article yet, so it was redirected to that. The page has not been deleted and the original revision can still be seen by going into the page history. π♂101 (talk) 15:17, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
I disagree that it is a topic that Wikipedia already has, the page he was creating had to do with activism regarding getting the rules changed so that people who have been placed on registration for what he feels are more minor crimes (for example relationships that in one US state would fall under the Romeo & Juliet laws and in others would not and would cause registration) would no longer be on them. There *may* be enough for any article there, but given that it is a relatively controversial subject and the issues with what was there, going through either Request for Articles or Articles for Creation is probably a better bet.Naraht (talk) 15:24, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
@Naraht: You're right; adjusting my message accordingly. However, Sexoffenderactivist has already been username blocked. π♂101 (talk) 15:47, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
@Piguy101: Yeah, but I *highly* doubt that he's not coming back.Naraht (talk) 16:00, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

UK christian record labels[edit]

please add Alpha Records Ltd. of 1 Abbey Street, Eynsham, Oxfordshire OX29 4TB — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:27, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure where you are asking for it to be added? as we do not seem to have a specific article on UK Christian record labels
Although we do have a List of Christian record labels this is only for "notable" labels, the criteria for notability being already having an article on English Wikipedia, which you do not have.
On Wikipedia Alpha Records only exists as a redirect to Outhere, a Belgian classical music distributor and publisher which bought Alpha Records, a French early music label.
Perhaps you could clarify where you are asking to be added, although we will need Reliable sources before adding you to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:50, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Joseph Kasa-Vubu[edit]


I'd be very grateful if someone who understands templates could possibly look at Joseph Kasa-Vubu and, ideally, fix the right-aligned templates at the bottom of the article. I'm not good with coding and I can't find the error. Obviously, they should simply run along the bottom as usual! Thanks! —Brigade Piron (talk) 15:55, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

@Brigade Piron: Yes check.svg Done How does that look? π♂101 (talk) 16:00, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

create a book[edit]

Hello. My pages in Create a Book have been discarded while I'm trying to add to them before I'm ready to print them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anhllmn (talkcontribs) 16:53, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

I can see from your editing history that you have not created, nor have you ever created, a book with this account. If you did it with another account, we can only help you if you identify the account name. Otherwise, your work is lost and you need to start again. SpinningSpark 17:25, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Decimal degrees to degrees, minutes, and seconds[edit]

Do we have a template that converts decimal degrees to degrees, minutes, and seconds for {{coord}}? Would converting them from decimal degrees using [2] constitute OR? Is there a template to just display decimal degrees in a similar fashion to {{coord}}? Thanks. Seattle (talk) 17:07, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

You can use the "format=dms" parameter in the coord template to force degree/min/sec format from decimal variables. Don't know if we have a template to produce dms from a dec input. We have one going the other way, {{decdeg}} so I would expect its complement to exist, but I can't find it. I would not consider doing the conversion yourself OR. That's just a routine calculation per WP:CALC. SpinningSpark 17:38, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
{{coord}} can use decimal degrees. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:38, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
I don't know if the {{convert}} template does this or not, but even if it does, it would usually not be desirable to list the angle in both formats. Converting between decimal degrees and degrees, minutes, and seconds is a simple calculation and would fall under WP:CALC; it isn't original research. Articles within and outside Wikipedia that express angles that precisely usually assume that this type of conversion is well within the ability of the reader.
The conversion could be used any method you trust, whether it be a reliable website, pocket calculator, or pencil & paper. Jc3s5h (talk) 17:39, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for the responses and for pointing me toward relevant guideline. Seattle (talk) 19:01, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
@Seattle: If you click on the coordinates in an article, both the decimal and the d/m/s forms of the coordiantes will appear at the top of the GeoHack page you're taken to. It's quite acceptable to use either form in the articles themselves. As Spinningspark said, if decimal coordinates are used in an article's {{coord}} template and you would prefer that the coordinates be displayed in d/m/s form, just add "|format=dms" to the template. Deor (talk) 20:50, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

How to create links[edit]

Can you tell me how to create a link to a specific section in a Talk page, please? I know only how to create a link that goes to a Talk page generally, not to a specific section. Which part of WP MOS on linking shows this? --P123ct1 (talk) 17:32, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Try Help:Link#Section linking (anchors). --David Biddulph (talk) 17:35, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict) [[Wikipedia:Help desk#How to create links]] gives this:Wikipedia:Help desk#How to create links. In general, use [[PageName#SectionName]].

Also, you can use piped links to get a more elegant look. [[Wikipedia:Help desk#How to create links|Create links]] gives Create links. In general, use [[PageName#SectionName|DisplayedName]]. --Fauzan✆ talk✉ mail 17:43, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

If you just want to link to the top of a section, you don't need an anchor - just put a hash (#) then the title of the section. For example, Talk:Banana#Bananas_are_not_fruit.
Note that you need the exact title, so in the example it needed the full-stop.
You can use either spaces or underscores, it doesn't matter - e.g. Talk:Banana#Bananas_are_not_fruit.
And of course you can use piped links, such as "See [[Talk:Banana#Bananas_are_not_fruit.|here]]" giving "See here"
See also Help:Link. (I chose the 'banana' example at random) (talk) 17:50, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I understand all of that, but not what "|DisplayedName" would give in Fauzan's example. What is a "DisplayedName"? --P123ct1 (talk) 18:01, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
The displayed name is the way the link appears. For example, if I were to use [[User:AddWittyNameHere|me]], it would come out as me. Basically, "DisplayedName" is shorthand for "Whatever you put here is how the link will be displayed". AddWittyNameHere (talk) 18:03, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! And thanks to everyone. --P123ct1 (talk) 19:54, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Removing flags from articles - who decides?[edit]

If an article is flagged for issues, such as neutrality, style or poor sourcing, who decides when it meets the criteria to be no longer flagged as such?

For example, with this edit to Nik Richie: , the editor removed flags for neutrality and references to primary sources. The flag is from 2012, shortly after the article was created, but there was no recent, corresponding, significant edit to the article before the editor decided to remove the flag. Additionally, as one can see from that editor's edit history, s/he is a WP:SPA who appears to have a relationship with the subject (side note: If I'm treading too close to WP:Outing with that last phrase, please blank.) and is therefore in a questionable position to assess the article's neutrality. (side note 2: I am not the person to make that call either. I'm a casual, occasional editor who admittedly has a negative opinion of the article's subject.)

Can casual editors remove flags from articles, or is it the domain of administrators to make that decision? Thanks. Damon Killian (talk) 18:38, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

@Damon Killian: Anyone can remove these flags (more properly known as maintenance templates or tags) from the articles. But before doing so, make sure to check the talkpage to see if anything has been discussed about the maintenance templates. If you find nothing and feel as though the maintenance template no longer applies, go ahead and remove it. Make sure to briefly explain why in the edit summary, like in your example edit; otherwise your edit may be undone. I hope this helps. π♂101 (talk) 18:58, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Anyone can add them, anyone can remove them. If another person disagrees with an addition/removal (e.g. by reverting the change), discuss it with them. If you can't come to an agreement, ask for more opinions.

It's exactly the same as any other article content; try to get a consensus agreeing if the tag should remain in the article or not; discussion is always the best way forward. See WP:DISCUSS.

So for that specific change to the Nik Richie article [3], feel free to 'undo' it, and create a section to discuss it on Talk:Nik Richie, and ask the person who removed them - DS Cable (talk · contribs) - to discuss it there.

Admins enforce the rules (which are agreed upon by consensus of everyone). They have no greater say in content issues than any other user. (talk) 00:19, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Requested changes to Wikipedia Page[edit]

Good afternoon,

My name is Anthony Rizzo an Information Specialist with NEWSMAX Media, based in West Palm Beach, Florida (

I am attempting to reach Wikipedia, to amend one of our two Web pages. Our NEWSMAX page (NOT MR. CHRISTOPHER RUDDY'S PROFILE/PAGE) needs to BRIEFLY include, in the paragraph / section beginning with this sentence: "Additional newsletter publications of Newsmax include The High Income Factor, Goldstock Adviser and Financial Intelligence Report,[36] as well as Dr. Brownstein's Natural Way to Health,[37] and the The Mind Health Report.[38]" >

> We would like tis to read instead as: "Additional newsletter publications of Newsmax include The High Income Factor, The Resolute Wealth Letter, Financial Intelligence Report,Retirement Profits, and Insider Hotline[36] as well as Dr. Brownstein's Natural Way to Health,[37] and the The Mind Health Report.[38]"

PLEASE CONTACT ME DIRECTLY AT [contact details (Redacted)]

Best regards,

Anthony Rizzo Information Specialist Newsmax Media Inc.

P.O. Box 20989 West Palm Beach, FL 33416 [contact details (Redacted)] — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:58, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello Anthony. I think you may be a bit mistaken about how Wikipedia works. There isn't really a unified "Wikipedia" to reach. The vast majority of Wikipedia editors are volunteers who edit because they enjoy it. If you want to request changes to the Newsmax Media page, I would suggest posting at Talk:Newsmax Media, explaining the changes you want done. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 21:24, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
There is a little more I want to say, beyond what Howicus has posted. Please be aware that it is not "your" article, and you have no control of its content- indeed, as you have a conflict of interest you are discouraged from editing it. You are welcome to make suggestions for improving it, at Talk:Newsmax Media, as Howicus says; but your suggestions are more likely to be acted upon if you include references to published sources (preferably sources independent of your company, but sometimes sources connected with it are acceptable), and if you couch them as suggestions or requests, and not statements of what the page "needs" to include. Nobody will contact you, and unpublished information that you have may not be used in the article. -- (talk) 23:29, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Missing lids[edit]

'I bought your 24 piece containers with easy find lids. The 2 lids were missing for the small 0.5 I can't use the containers without the lids. Could you send me the lids. My address is (Redacted) Thank you. Love your products. Most always buy Rubbermaid.Bold text' — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:55, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --Mysdaao talk 22:00, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

St. Kevin's College, Oamaru[edit]

I am James Barnes, and you will note that my name is spelled wrong in this passage--"The first lay person to be the Director of Religious Studies and Head of Special Character was Mr James Barns...". I might mention that the surname Barnes is never spelled as Barns! Please correct this. Thanks, James Barnes — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:38, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Changes made. In the future, you could edit it yourself (Be bold!) or you could put {{edit requested}} and add the requested change on the corresponding talkpage. Thanks π♂101 (talk) 22:56, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

August 20[edit]

How to reply on a talk page[edit]

As a new editor on Wikipedia, I have absolutely no idea of the proper format for a reply on a talk page. Could somebody please either show me here the proper format or direct me to a tutorial/template? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luthien22 (talkcontribs) 01:48, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

@Luthien22: This is a good example of a reply. You should usually being your response with a colon (:), which indents the response, so it is easier to read. I have done that in this reply. At the end of your response, put four tildes (~~~~), which puts your username and time, so others can easily see who posted the response. You may want to click edit on this post, so you can see the formatting I used. It is really quite simple. You may want to read WP:TOPPOST for some more formatting guidelines. Thanks π♂101 (talk) 02:07, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Splitting rows in a table Help[edit]

I am working on making a bunch of elimination tables look a lot nicer for many Big Brother articles and I am having some issues with making a table go from having... well , I guess I should just show you what the problem is

Evicted Teddy
Most points
to evict
Most points
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11 of 15
to evict
7 of 15
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6 of 15
to evict
Most points
to evict
Most points
to evict
2 of 15
to evict

Its hard to explain, but I would like the table to look as though Teddy and Wayoe's cells are the same size, each taking up half of the row, while at the same time, I want Phil's cell to take up that whole row, and I want Erastus, Rene, and Paloma's cells all to take up a third. This is the closest I can get to to making it "even", even though Teddy's cell is bigger than Wayoe's. Any help would be appreciated! Thank you! BlueDevil54 (talk) 07:54, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

As far as I know, Wikitable only deals with whole rows. You have an odd number of rows so the cells won't be equal in size. You've told it to rowspan wayoe 2 rows, but there aren't enough rows in the table for it to do that. - X201 (talk) 09:52, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Hre's what happens when you add an additional cell to the end column.
Evicted Teddy
Most points
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Most points
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11 of 15
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7 of 15
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6 of 15
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Most points
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Most points
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2 of 15
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Mr EvenRow
2 of 15
to evict
- X201 (talk) 10:11, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Is this what you want?
Evicted Teddy
Most points
to evict
Most points
to evict
11 of 15
to evict
7 of 15
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6 of 15
to evict
Most points
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Most points
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The row heights aren't very even in Internet Explorer because it ignores the height css, but it works well in other browsers. I vaguely recollect there is a workaround for IE, I'll dig around for it. SpinningSpark 10:14, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Yes! That's exactly it! I didn't even think to mess around with row heights like that. Thank you very much! BlueDevil54 (talk) 18:01, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
The key to it is not so much setting the row heights, but getting the number of rows right (the lowest common multiple of rows in each column is needed) and hiding the dummy ones. SpinningSpark 19:14, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
WP:MOSTABLE should only be used for information that is valid in column and row form, and the trivial content in the those articles is not even valid for an article let alone worth being table format let alone being in complicated table format! -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:04, 21 August 2014 (UTC)


How do you insert an image? — Preceding unsigned comment added by James882 (talkcontribs) 09:14, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

  • If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy.
  • If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, add [[File:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps.--ukexpat (talk) 14:39, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Direct Links to Portuguese Wikipedia[edit]

When is it appropriate to do a direct link to an article in another language wikipedia? Specific example: Sérgio Rodrigues was just made a finalist for the 2014 São Paulo Prize for Literature. He is an established Brazilian author, and the prize nomination helps boost his notability status. An English Wikipedia article does not exist for him, but there is an article in the Portuguese Wikipedia, Sérgio Rodrigues. On the English Wikipedia Sérgio Rodrigues is a disambiguation page. I added a red link for Sérgio Rodrigues (author) on that page and on the São Paulo Prize for Literature page, but would it be better to just link directly to the article in the Portuguese Wikipedia since an English article doesn't exist, and if so, how do you best designate it as such? There are several Brazilian authors on the São Paulo Prize for Literature page to whom this same situation could apply. Translating every author's article would take a lot of time, and the base articles aren't always high quality. Vojen (talk) 17:15, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Another Wikipedia, like this one, is not a reliable source. There is no reason you couldn't create a stub, a bare skeleton of an article, for each of these authors, with proper stub tag(s) and the statement (with sourcing, of course, that she or he is a winner of that prize (that being the requisite assertion of notability). I will leave it to others more knowledgable of Brazilian literature to judge whether a mere nomination constitutes sufficient notability. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:38, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Finalists might not be notable, but winners should be. There are plenty of reliable sources that can attest to the facts of who won, as well as several that single out individuals for greater coverage of their work. It's really just the wikifying that I'm wondering about. Is it really better to create a bunch of stubs rather than direct link to an article that already exists in another wikipedia? I feel like creating a stub is just asking for a deletion debate (which I don't really want to get involved in), but creating a decent article takes too much time. Vojen (talk) 18:22, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Hello, Vojen. It is perfectly acceptable to make a Wikilink to an article in another language, if there is not an English article available; in fact, there is a template for it: {{ill}}. This will produce a link to the foreign article until such time as there exists an English article of the same name, and thereafter link to the English article. --ColinFine (talk) 20:50, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
That's looks like a useful template. Thanks for the heads up. Vojen (talk) 21:32, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

August 21[edit]

reference citation[edit]

I am told there is an error in the following, [1] [2] Can any give me the needed correction? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djlebeau (talkcontribs) 01:19, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

[4] - you used <ref> instead of </ref>. - Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 03:35, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Hey, How Do I Get More Involved?[edit]

Wondering. Still fairly new here. Busy Moose (talk) 02:45, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Busy Moose, see Wikipedia:How to help -- Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 03:38, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Citations and copyright[edit]

Where in the WP Help pages does it say that when writing articles the wording in citations must not be copied word for word or closely paraphrased because of copyright problems? I have seen it but cannot remember where. --P123ct1 (talk) 10:03, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

You may be looking for Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:52, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
Also of potential help, Wikipedia:Copy-paste. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 10:56, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
But if you mean you are quoting a source, the quote should, of course, be the exact words used in the source. See MOS:QUOTE. SpinningSpark 11:55, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, forgot to mention that important exception! --P123ct1 (talk) 13:33, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Which Awards and nominations tables are better?[edit]

Hello, so usually the main work I do on Wikiepedia is to edit the Awards and nominations section on biographies of people. It really fascinates me, however they are so many different kind of tables used for that particular section, therefore which ones based on RULES and POLICIES of Wikipedia are the best to use? To be more specific, should the ones that have the awards/organizations and categories together like Eileen Davidson's and Rebecca Herbst's or the ones that have IMO occupy less clutter and have each specific award/organization receive their own tables as in Michelle Stafford's page? If neither are good based on Wikipedia routines, then which tables should I used? Please give a link to the table. Thank you and I hope my question can be answered very soon.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 16:20, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

College MUN page deleted[edit]

Hi, I created an article for Haarlem United Nations, see This is an organization run by college students therefore the level of our article isn´t that high. It´s highly important to us to have a Wikipedia page: participating students can read about it. Sadly, one of your workers deleted the page. Please try to understand our problem and help us. Here is our page:

I think that you may have misunderstood the purpose of Wikipedia - this is an encyclopaedia intended for a general readership, rather than an information source for your students. To qualify for an article, you would need to demonstrate that the organisation meets our notability criteria, as demonstrated through in-depth coverage in third-party published reliable sources - which your article fails to do. This is the standard applied to all organisations, and we don't make exceptions for NGOs and other worthy causes. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:34, 21 August 2014 (UTC)


I am trying to find a draft I had built, but the window closed. Where is it so I can get back to it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minimer01 (talkcontribs) 16:31, 21 August 2014 (UTC)